"Sugarbabies" / "Arrangements" Amateurs or Not?

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I've been beating myself up. I shouldn't have hit her with the truth so much and so brutal. I should have worked her some.[/QUOTE]If she's deleted the account, then that means she's shut out any other guys from contacting her. If she's still replying back to your text then I think that's a good sign.

Smart move about offering the safe nsa lunch and if you pass the creep test then she may warm up to the idea again.

Depending on what's on your plate and who else is in the pipeline, it may be worth the learning experience to stretch this out a little longer.

I'm sure many others on this board would disagree, but if I was in your situation and I could get her to the lunch, I'd also throw in a $ into her hand / pocket / bag at the very end.

I'd avoid the topic of sugar, but let her tell her life story and I'm sure she'll share what led her to looking for a SD in the first place. Showing her how normal I am and how "generous" I can be may be enough to break the ice.

If not, it'd be a $+lunch learning experience and a story to tell.

This goes against the numbers game and moving on to the next, but sometimes it's fun to mix things up.

I had to pass on a chill utr girl today due to work. Now I am txting a couple real beauties that both live far away (which I hate) but my demographic is so tight that I only see about one new pot a day with a new profile within 60 miles of me. Knowing I would be lucky to score 1 a week for a date I have to break down a little and be willing to travel. One of the girls I met recently (the jamaican princess) is so sexy (a closet utr girl), but she claims to have a bf is is keeping it totally professional. Too bad because she really is sexy and interesting but not willing to step it up past a 1 hour session. And only within some somewhat restrictive time frames.

The only thing that would increase my chances is spending more, which I can't do. A brother on another thread pm-ed me about a hot little spinner which is awesome but she is a pro. I will see her, but I hate seeing girls I might actually like but can never really have.

Many a tear has to fall, But it's all in the game.

[QUOTE=HollywoodGuy;2094005]I had to pass on a chill utr girl today due to work. Now I am txting a couple real beauties that both live far away (which I hate) but my demographic is so tight that I only see about one new pot a day with a new profile within 60 miles of me. Knowing I would be lucky to score 1 a week for a date I have to break down a little and be willing to travel. One of the girls I met recently (the jamaican princess) is so sexy (a closet utr girl), but she claims to have a bf is is keeping it totally professional. Too bad because she really is sexy and interesting but not willing to step it up past a 1 hour session. And only within some somewhat restrictive time frames.

The only thing that would increase my chances is spending more, which I can't do. A brother on another thread pm-ed me about a hot little spinner which is awesome but she is a pro. I will see her, but I hate seeing girls I might actually like but can never really have.

Many a tear has to fall, But it's all in the game.[/QUOTE]Someone mentioned that things should pick up once school's out and I hope that's true. It does seem like there aren't as many new worthy profiles popping up everyday like there used to be.

I'm thinking that you're venturing out to the IE and Riverside now. Hope the drives are worth it for you.

[QUOTE=Dolato;2094017]Someone mentioned that things should pick up once school's out and I hope that's true. It does seem like there aren't as many new worthy profiles popping up everyday like there used to be.

I'm thinking that you're venturing out to the IE and Riverside now. Hope the drives are worth it for you.[/QUOTE]SB, highland, ontario. I had some bad experience with riverside, but yeah. Some of the best girls I had in the past were from there. And they drove to me. Just one good one is all I need. The train is .25 RT. If I ever have to move that's where I am going. Pussy Paradise out there for sure. It's pretty much unlimited at $. Obviously hollywood, the westside and southbay or even OC are always gonna be more. The SFV is sort of a joke, those girls have very little game. Also pasadena to asuza, SGV has girls. But most of the affordable girls in L.A. are south central, inglewood, hawthorne. Areas i have and do go to, but try to stay away from.

And thats just for the black and mixed girls, meaning they got some black in them. For latinas, anywhere near el monte, pomona or downey. And the only white girls locally at a $ are all addicted. Asians at a $ would be but ugly.

So all you guys traveling here take notes.

[QUOTE=HollywoodGuy;2094091]SB, highland, ontario. I had some bad experience with riverside, but yeah. Some of the best girls I had in the past were from there. And they drove to me. Just one good one is all I need. The train is .25 RT. If I ever have to move that's where I am going. Pussy Paradise out there for sure. It's pretty much unlimited at $. Obviously hollywood, the westside and southbay or even OC are always gonna be more. The SFV is sort of a joke, those girls have very little game. Also pasadena to asuza, SGV has girls. But most of the affordable girls in L.A. are south central, inglewood, hawthorne. Areas i have and do go to, but try to stay away from.

And thats just for the black and mixed girls, meaning they got some black in them. For latinas, anywhere near el monte, pomona or downey. And the only white girls locally at a $ are all addicted. Asians at a $ would be but ugly.

So all you guys traveling here take notes.[/QUOTE]I've never been into black girls and have always enjoyed the latinas. For them, I'd also add the Long Beach area and have had some decent experience with them in the Riverside area.

But you're definitely right about the white girls and the asians. Luckily there's no shortage of latinas here in socal.

[QUOTE=Dolato;2094156]I've never been into black girls and have always enjoyed the latinas. For them, I'd also add the Long Beach area and have had some decent experience with them in the Riverside area.

But you're definitely right about the white girls and the asians. Luckily there's no shortage of latinas here in socal.[/QUOTE]I have not really struck paydirt with the latinas. The white latinas I call them are just like white girls. And the really hot tanned ones I just can't seem to connect with. Not like I have never been with one, just never made a go of it. And I try. The mixed white and latina I had a date with a few weeks ago was in heaven during our time together. No one is faking 90 minutes of pleasure for a $. And bam, she is gone. I actually persued a really hot spinner a year or so ago. She said I was a man h o. I don't think I have what they are looking for. I am more hipster (jeans, tshirts and allstars) less debonaire type. No suits and wining and dining. So maybe that's it.

One thing I am beginning to and tonite had reinforced to me yet again. Is that endless txting and messaging is a waste of time. The girls that just say yes and are down to meet asap are the ones that always work out. The ones that question me to death or want to talk about I don't know what are a waste of time. My offer is crystal clear. All 3 girls on my A team were DTF on the first date. And we have been loyal to each other ever since. This shit is not rocket science.

I got so frustrated with this girl tonite I started cruising myredbook. Interesting site. Picked one out for the coming week if I can get the time. LOL

Its amazing to me that some girls would hang out with you for hours and even multiple days to get you to spend a $ if you allow it. But they could be up that $ in an hour, No muss no fuss.

I just got the "isn't that prostitution" question. I mean I really don't have time for this. This is why the sexual fantasy is so important, or just girls that dont put a lot of pressure on hooking up with a guy they are attracted to. Does anyone read whats supposedly going on on campus these days. Its headlines in my hometown paper.

The "hookup culture" is everywhere. No they are not hooking up with 60 year olds as a rule, I understand that. But in our world they do.

I re-upped on SA and sent out maybe 15 Emails to the top 15 girls on my demographic list. Got 10 emails in my box this AM. Now I'm like "oh shit " ! I'm going to pull a Hollywood and float the $ offer out there for an "intimate and exciting " experience. At my former offer of $$.5 it is a no brainer . I see 3 possibilities in the bunch and they are the 7/8 s sounding a little desperate with banging bods (always). The 8.5 + hotties are not going to go for the FC visit. I can't date in my area so I pretty much have to go straight to the FC. My letter will have to be good.

[QUOTE=FredMoore;2094411]I re-upped on SA and sent out maybe 15 Emails to the top 15 girls on my demographic list. Got 10 emails in my box this AM. Now I'm like "oh shit " ! I'm going to pull a Hollywood and float the $ offer out there for an "intimate and exciting " experience. At my former offer of $$.5 it is a no brainer . I see 3 possibilities in the bunch and they are the 7/8 s sounding a little desperate with banging bods (always). The 8.5 + hotties are not going to go for the FC visit. I can't date in my area so I pretty much have to go straight to the FC. My letter will have to be good.[/QUOTE]FredMoore: Keep us posted. I had same experience.but after couple of email exchange...it became quite with 2-3 M&G for me...resulting in 1 success. Would love to know more about offer letters...how can we go straight to the court. May be it is final exam time...for SBs...don't know.! I have found a decent one after few M&Gs! Will post my experience soon.

So yesterday the 22 year old Latina spinner (with big tits) responded to my apology as I detailed previously. So I send her a message back and I decide to use some courting language. I tell that I did actually like her and I thought she was sweet and nice. And that I loved listening to her accent and would love to buy her lunch anytime and just talk.

The rest of the day goes by with no response. I wake up this morning and I've got a text from her from midnight last night. She says "sorry so late but you threw me off with those texts. But like you said you were upset from work I guess".

I text her this morning apologizing again and tell her I would like to be a friend no matter what, that I did like her. And I would like to buy her lunch one day. Waiting...

I do agree with a previous poster. I think her deleting her SA account is a good thing for me. I just got to keep working her if she will keep texting. We did actually hit it off and I'm a good looking guy with some southern charm. If she meets me for lunch or something, I'm trying to decide on what to give her. I kind of hate to give her cash and reinforce the P word. I'm thinking maybe a vanilla card with credits as a gift for school.

Any thoughts?

Also, I'm running into a problem. I can't get to all the girls I've been talking to and it seems like many are dropping me cause I can't show up. Kind of like they think I'm full of shit and I'm just wasting their time for photos and shit. Any advice on how to set the hook?

Skin.

[QUOTE=HollywoodGuy;2093171]I went to the SD school of hard knocks. No brothers. No forum. Just golddiggers, pros and some good luck as time went on. I may have an mba in sugar dating, but I paid for it. Also I have always focused my CL and SD ads more on sexual fantasy than wine and dine or big money talk. Started out doing that pre-sugar dating on the civi sites. But these girls are much prettier and younger. Although looking back the civi daters were all pretty dirty in the FC. Even bagged a pro for free for months just appealing to her need for some killer sex.

Thinking about it now, maybe I will try POF just to see what happens. Some things never change. I will report back if anything positive happens.[/QUOTE]What would be some good examples of an ad based on fantasy? I'm curious.

I am such a nice guy. I did a failed M & G with this 19 year old girl a week ago. I had already moved on from even thinking about her and she called about noon and said she got kicked out of her moms. So I felt sorry for her and let her stay over. Just fed her some fast food, candy and ice cream.

We hung out all day then watched a couple movies and went to bed. No kissing or anything else.
Too bad because she is more than cute enough to bang. 5'7" and 117.

Suburban not urban. Educated and smells good. Not sure what's going to happen today. Nothing sexual that's for sure.

I offered to pay for her time, but she is not interested. Platonic sleepovers are not my thing,
I don't need company that bad, even for free.

[QUOTE=HollywoodGuy;2095446]I am such a nice guy. I did a failed M & G with this 19 year old girl a week ago. I had already moved on from even thinking about her and she called about noon and said she got kicked out of her moms. So I felt sorry for her and let her stay over. Just fed her some fast food, candy and ice cream.

We hung out all day then watched a couple movies and went to bed. No kissing or anything else.
Too bad because she is more than cute enough to bang. 5'7" and 117.

Suburban not urban. Educated and smells good. Not sure what's going to happen today. Nothing sexual that's for sure.

I offered to pay for her time, but she is not interested. Platonic sleepovers are not my thing,
I don't need company that bad, even for free.[/QUOTE]How the heck did you managed to keep your dick in your boxer with that pretty little thing walking around in your home?

[QUOTE=Smokarz_XO;2095581]How the heck did you managed to keep your dick in your boxer with that pretty little thing walking around in your home?[/QUOTE]You know, when a girl is not interested in me, I quickly lose interest in her. And it's not like I am not gettin any. Watch Don Jon. Interesting movie. If that didn't make her want to fuck me, I don't know what. She probably wanted to fuck him.

[QUOTE=HollywoodGuy;2095593]You know, when a girl is not interested in me, I quickly lose interest in her. And it's not like I am not gettin any. Watch Don Jon. Interesting movie. If that didn't make her want to fuck me, I don't know what. She probably wanted to fuck him.[/QUOTE]I'm of the same attitude, it's not much fun without mutual interest, even if that interest is based on dollars and cents.

As I've said, you're a good man. Also the Godfather of Sugardaddy's it would seem. Keep up the good work.

Zhuxi.