A fresh reminder of something I posted earlier
[QUOTE=AaronHamlet;5462730]Do you even read? I'm not referring to my post, but do you read at all, period? Israel/UK have nationalized medicine. All their data comes into a sole clearinghouse.The data from Israel and UK has been out for a couple weeks and has been analyzed. 50-60% of new cases have been non-vaccine vaxed, 90% of new cases in 50 years old+ have been vaccinated by non vax drug. Fauci's a liar. And the mRNA non-vaccine vaccines are all basically the same.[/QUOTE]In protecting against infection, Pfizer vaccines are 95% effective for the alpha variant but only 64% effective for the delta variant.
In preventing symptomatic COVID-19 cases, Pfizer vaccines are 97% effective for the alpha variant but only 64% effective for the delta variant.
In preventing hospitalization and serious disease, Pfizer vaccines are 97.5% effective for the alpha variant and still 93% effective for the delta variant.
While the Pfizer vaccine is less effective against the delta variant, the vaccine's effectiveness still far exceeds the 50% vaccine efficacy threshold required for WHO approval, according to the organization's website.
"Just because a variant emerges that renders the vaccines less effective doesn't mean those vaccines weren't effective in the first place," according to The Washington Post.
This article [URL]https://www.deseret.com/coronavirus/...cinated-people[/URL].
Which acknowledges a significant reducation in effect by Pfizer vaccines against cases in Israel still acknowledges that it is highly effective at preventing hospitalization and serious disease, something important given that Delta might be as much as twice the baseline hospitalization rate of older variants. Meanwhile 2/3 rds protection against spread is still a significant reduction in spread. And yes in the long run we will have to take seasonal vaccines like we do with the flu. Does it eradicate the flu? No. Does it have 90%+ efficacy? Not always. But is it worth it? Yes.
Darwin loves MAGAT’s.....
[QUOTE=AaronHamlet;5462733]And don't you become one of those begging,"but I took the non-vaccine vaccine," after it is too late.[/QUOTE]At this point, COVID is simply culling the herd of trump-humpers. To borrow a trope from the evangelicals: You may not believe in Covid, but Covid sure believes in you. LOL.
So funny you should make that point.
[QUOTE=SgtSoros;5463022]
Trump humpers when trump was POTUS: we will get the miracle vaccine.
Trump humpers after Biden won: We won't get it.
You just cant fix stupid![/QUOTE]Let's take a look at the administration here:
[URL]https://twitter.com/KyleMartinsen_[/URL]
Not a Trumpster, not into party politics at all, but what a bunch of hypocrites!
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Yep, Keep your head wedged firmly up your ass.......
[QUOTE=ILuvEmall;5463647]Believe what you will, you're insignificant to me. Unlike you, I'm able to think for myself, and don't need someone to do it for me. I noticed you had no comment on Joe "blow with the political winds" flip-flopping on his vaccine stance. He went from the "vaccines are unsafe", and "who's going to take the first shot?!" To trying to force them on everyone, and taking credit for his predecessor's groundwork.[/QUOTE]At least I get it: Most trump-humpers won't take the vaccine to stick it to Biden. That's the dumbass logic we're up against. "I'll die and infect others rather than see him succeed. " Or, flatly: "there is no fucking Virus. " "The research behind the vaccines is a hoax. " "It's fake news and a liberal media hoax. "
We hear stories of trump-humpers and anti-vaxers dying from COVID after trump worked "miracles" to speed the development of life saving Covid vaccines, which you all now refuse to take because you want to "own" the Libs. LOL.
Yep, MAGA geniuses everywhere!
Read this story about the consequences of not taking the vaccine
[url]https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/2021/07/26/covid-vaccine-regrets/?utm_source=reddit.com[/url]
These days, Christy Carpenter finds strength in her family and faith. But on some days, one question keeps ringing in her head: "Why?
After weeks of battling through oxygen treatments, her 28-year-old son died in the hospital two months after being diagnosed with covid-19.
Now in Carpenter's Alabama home, the room belonging to Curt, her "beautiful baby boy" and firstborn, remains empty a painful reminder of a life that could have been saved if the family had decided to get vaccinated, she said.
"It took watching my son die and me suffering the effects of covid for us to realize we need the vaccine," the mother said. "We did not get vaccinated when we had the opportunity and regret that so much now. ".
Although for her it will always be impossible to understand the reason for Curt's passing, Carpenter said she is determined to not let her son's death be futile.
"If Curt were here today, he would make it his mission to encourage everyone to get vaccinated," Carpenter said. "Cayla, his sister, and I are carrying out that mission in his memory. ".
Curt Carpenter was a young and otherwise healthy man. While at home, his mother said, he would spoil her with the "best hugs" and a daily dosage of kindness. Curt was autistic, but Christy Carpenter said he "lived life to the fullest" and had a passion for all things PokMon., trains, video games and frogs.
The pandemic dealt a big blow to the tightknit Carpenter family on March 5, when Curt, his younger sister and his mother were diagnosed with the virus, which has claimed about 610,000 lives across the nation.
At first, the three experienced mild symptoms that slowly began to alleviate. Then, a week later, everything took a turn for the worse.
When their oxygen saturation levels dropped dangerously, the mother and son were rushed to Grandview Medical Center in Birmingham. A day later, they both developed pneumonia, and Curt Carpenter was put on a ventilator.
The constantly changing oxygen levels paired with a pneumothorax a collapsed lung were too much for Curt Carpenter's body. His organs began shutting down. He was declared dead May 2.
His last uttered phrase is still etched in Christy Carpenter's mind: "This is not a hoax, this is real," Curt said, according to his mother.
His mother said Curt Carpenter at first believed that the coronavirus was a hoax. The whole family was hesitant to get vaccinated when the shots became available.
"It took years to create other vaccines, and the coronavirus vaccine was created very quickly," Christy Carpenter said. "That made us very nervous. ".
The Carpenters' reluctance is not unique in a state with the lowest vaccination rates in the country. According to data from the Alabama Department of Public Health, only 33.9 percent of the state's eligible population has been fully vaccinated, and 41.6 percent has received at least one dose.
With cases beginning to climb in the state, health officials are attempting to boost confidence in the vaccine but difficulties in rollout paired with distrust have become major hurdles.
"We find that there's a lot of mistrust with messages that come from state government, from public health, in particular, from the media," said Scott Harris, chief executive of the Alabama Department of Public Health. "It's just a multilayered problem. There's just a lot of different people who have a lot of different reasons for not getting the vaccine. And it's just hard to address them in a big way. ".
Much like the Carpenters, unvaccinated people are often the ones to endure the most severe effects of the virus. In Alabama, they account for more than 95 percent of the current covid-related hospitalizations, Harris said.
Yet, for some, the disease does not end with a negative coronavirus test. Its aftermath can be just as harrowing.
Even after being discharged from the hospital, Christy Carpenter said, she could not drive or work until late May. She said she has been on pulmonary therapy ever since and still struggles with fatigue, hair loss and "covid brain. ".
"I lose my train of thought easily, can't remember parts of conversations, can't remember people's names that I have known for years," she said. "I sometimes think I'm going crazy, but I know I'm not. ".
Even worse, she deals with the backwash of memories of her son a "social butterfly who knew no strangers" and whose time was cut short. Yet his death has inspired a renewed appreciation for life and a mission to protect it.
"If we can help keep people healthier and possibly save lives by encouraging others to take the vaccine, then Curt's death was not in vain," Christy said. "Life is a precious gift from God. ".
