Massage Parlor Reports

[QUOTE=OrZammar;4944087]Had it happen with Tara yesterday. I only saw her twice and last time was Nuru granted, but yesterday I just went with the hr massage for 120. She told me a happy ending would be 40 more and I just stood there like "uhhhh, guess I'm just getting a massage today then" (which isn't bad, her elbows got major kinks out of my back). I don't know if that is usually how it is, I just assumed 120/ hr massage came with a HJ at least.[/QUOTE]I do know Tara is close with KK. And it seems like a lot of KK's girls get GPS (ie: Lucy) and this is their MO - $120 to get in the door, everything else is extra.

I'm sure Tara and the other indys have fallen on some hard times during this pandemic, but this is not the correct path to make up for lost income. I'm also sure some dudes will happily pay, but the long time regulars will be taken aback by this pretty significant increase in her rates. It's not like Tara is a super-hot mid-20's spinner with an extensive menu -- If we are being honest, she's an attractive, albeit increasingly plump, Thai woman with big tits, in her 40's, who gives a great massage with a fun finish. $120/ hr +tips was a fair price. $160/ hr +tips is too much.

Adding to this post, since I went to Best also recently. I saw a provider named Ivy, who was kind of lumpy, but had long hair and a pretty dress. Age was probably 40-ish, by asian standards. Good table shower, pleasant banter, flirty personality.

Then it got worse. Mediocre table shower, followed by the flip, and negotiation. She wanted me to go to my wallet and take out the cash for her. Offered. 6, got a dissapointed "is that all, honey?" - she was really interested in 2 $ for the full Monty, but I wasn't going there. Quick nova and more lackluster massage to round out the hour. So Ivy is off my list.

Also, at some point this month I TOFTT and checked out a places that advertises on Bedpage as "STERLING CLOSE TO DULLS AIRPOST" but has no name or directions, just a phone ending with 1121. Its over near the Walmart in Sterling. I think this is a legit place that has gone to the dark side. I had a strange massage by a younger girl who wore a full body jumpsuit and gave me a weird massage that involved baby oil and pulling on my skin until it hurt. Then at the end I get a reluctant Nova finish with no interaction at all. As I left they gave me a card, with 6 punches you get a free session, but I don't know why anyone would return to this place.

Be safe why'awl.

--B.

[QUOTE=DC002;4928840]Visited Best Therapy. Chantilly and had a different experience. Have had many repeat visits. All good.

Had a delightful and fun time there and mentioned the bad review.

So, I guess there is always 2 sides of a story.

They said a fat guy came in and just wanted FS and not a massage. He was so fat that it was hard to find his dick. Because they are not a FS place and run a good business with lots of repeat clients, they quoted a very high price that was sure to make him not want FS. Generally she said clients are very happy with most of the girls and the services there and come back often. She said, how do you complain about a provider's body when you have such a big big belly? He should g OP to a ***** house if he wants FS. And they might even charge him extra.

Well, as I said, there are 2 sides to the story.[/QUOTE]

Some POS on this board will go running to Best looking to tattle on your post on the board. The little POS will get so excited as the pushy money hungry lady talks shit about you. The little POS might get a pat on the head for being a good tattle take talking about two sides to every story.

To that S talker. You're absolutely pathetic.

[QUOTE=Barkeater;4945708]Adding to this post, since I went to Best also recently. I saw a provider named Ivy, who was kind of lumpy, but had long hair and a pretty dress. Age was probably 40-ish, by asian standards. Good table shower, pleasant banter, flirty personality.

Then it got worse. Mediocre table shower, followed by the flip, and negotiation. She wanted me to go to my wallet and take out the cash for her. Offered. 6, got a dissapointed "is that all, honey?" - she was really interested in 2 $ for the full Monty, but I wasn't going there. Quick nova and more lackluster massage to round out the hour. So Ivy is off my list.

Also, at some point this month I TOFTT and checked out a places that advertises on Bedpage as "STERLING CLOSE TO DULLS AIRPOST" but has no name or directions, just a phone ending with 1121. Its over near the Walmart in Sterling. I think this is a legit place that has gone to the dark side. I had a strange massage by a younger girl who wore a full body jumpsuit and gave me a weird massage that involved baby oil and pulling on my skin until it hurt. Then at the end I get a reluctant Nova finish with no interaction at all. As I left they gave me a card, with 6 punches you get a free session, but I don't know why anyone would return to this place.

Be safe why'awl.

--B.[/QUOTE]

Hi,

Long time lurker but first time poster. After reading all the last great adventures of people on the board at Papaya I decided to give it a try.

As usual I drive around the parking lot just to check if I see any weird looking cars (maybe I'm too paranoid?) and everything checks out.

I enter and get Annie she is "young" by AMP standard and good looking from what I could tell she had her mask on. I get hh give the house fee and get directed to the room.

Massage was ok ish and the flip was great she is really pleasing and does a great job.

The point of my first post is now. As I head back to my car on the parking lot I saw a brown car with a cop inside. He has his computer pulled up and definitely looked at me enter in my car. As I was driving he seemed to be following with his head movement and probably typed in my plates. I made it home and he didn't follow and so far I didn't hear anything. So please be on the lookout today if you see the same car and I'm now off to googling what is the worst thing that can happen to me if he was to follow-up (if it's a sting or anything like that).

Sad experience but it's worth sharing so you won't be in the same predicament as I am:

[QUOTE=JimRob;4945748]Some POS on this board will go running to Best looking to tattle on your post on the board. The little POS will get so excited as the pushy money hungry lady talks shit about you. The little POS might get a pat on the head for being a good tattle take talking about two sides to every story.

To that S talker. You're absolutely pathetic.[/QUOTE]Can't see to be able to post?

[QUOTE=GoodSamaritan;4945548]Based on what's been said already on this forum, it sounds like you saw a different Vivian than the one people are talking about who currently works at FHOH. The current Vivan at FHOH offers nothing more than a topless HJ. How much extra did you pay?[/QUOTE]I wouldn't be so sure. I saw Vivian and while I didn't like her attitude, I felt like I could have gotten her to go along with more if I had pressed more. I only got topless HJ (2 pops) and utc roaming including FIV but I do feel like more was on the table.

[QUOTE=GoodSamaritan;4945548]Based on what's been said already on this forum, it sounds like you saw a different Vivian than the one people are talking about who currently works at FHOH. The current Vivan at FHOH offers nothing more than a topless HJ. How much extra did you pay?[/QUOTE]

Looked back in my burner number text. Year was in 2017 and I cannot verify her name via text records but I did remember that she was actually European and from Sweden, at least that is what she told me. Is the current Vivian European or hispanic?

So this was one of my usual spots- clean, quiet, low traffic, and easy to get an appointment. Sara was there first and she was pretty good. She disappeared suddenly and her replacement was Sophia. That woman was my ATF. Basically same age and build as Sara but cuter face bigger breasts and even better massage. It was the maximum combo of sensual and real massage I'm always looking for, with the same finish options as Sara. Just better executed. Sara came back but I never tried to see her again. And I liked her a lot.

Anyway they finally reopened in July and unfortunately both Sara and Sophia are long gone. I had Ruby who is again similar age and build. No idea as to face in these masked times. Shower and massage were decent and thorough- good but not as good as her predecessors. Standard finish, and she indicated on the way out that BJ was an option (the exact phrase was "next time sucky sucky".

This isn't meant to damn with faint praise. She's pretty good. Just not the same caliber. She said someone else manned the post on Sundays so may be worth checking out. If you happen to know where Sophia or Sara ended up, I'd appreciate a PM.

[QUOTE=DoctorDoctor;4920269]Saw Sara before the pandemic. Went back recently, she's gone.

Anyone know where she landed?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Tophat31;4946053]Looked back in my burner number text. Year was in 2017 and I cannot verify her name via text records but I did remember that she was actually European and from Sweden, at least that is what she told me. Is the current Vivian European or hispanic?[/QUOTE]Vivian (actually Viviana) is Bolivian, iirc.

[QUOTE=Barkeater;4945708]Also, at some point this month I TOFTT and checked out a places that advertises on Bedpage as "STERLING CLOSE TO DULLS AIRPOST" but has no name or directions, just a phone ending with 1121. Its over near the Walmart in Sterling. I think this is a legit place that has gone to the dark side. I had a strange massage by a younger girl who wore a full body jumpsuit and gave me a weird massage that involved baby oil and pulling on my skin until it hurt. Then at the end I get a reluctant Nova finish with no interaction at all. As I left they gave me a card, with 6 punches you get a free session, but I don't know why anyone would return to this place.[/QUOTE]A couple weeks ago I decided to try this place out as I have been to nearly every AMP in the area but not this one. I think the official name is Relaxation Studio and the pictures are accurate on Yelp and Rubmaps. I texted ahead and agreed on a time, When I got there I discovered their location is on the second floor, no problem however their door was next to a store front that had a church service going on at the time with some people milling around outside, awkward. Greeted by a masked young thing when I reached the top of the stairs and was ushered to an empty couples therapy room and told to wait there. Over 30 minutes later (I timed it) another girl came and got me and took me to my final room. She did and OK job with a massage but I was dreaming about the next stage. After the flip and some upper body work she got to business and without negotiation started a NOVA. She had on tight shorts and I was roaming all around. Got under her loose top and discovered she was probably an A- and her bra had foam falsies. I did not complete my mission and threw the punch card away that I was given when I left, I did drink the bottle of water.

[QUOTE=JimRob;4945748]Some POS on this board will go running to Best looking to tattle on your post on the board. The little POS will get so excited as the pushy money hungry lady talks shit about you. The little POS might get a pat on the head for being a good tattle take talking about two sides to every story.

To that S talker. You're absolutely pathetic.[/QUOTE]Agreed. We all know how much YMMV with many of these providers. Sharing review notes and expecting a truthful version of the account from from a provider who's number one priority is $$ isn't realistic.

[QUOTE=JimRob;4945748]Some POS on this board will go running to Best looking to tattle on your post on the board. The little POS will get so excited as the pushy money hungry lady talks shit about you. The little POS might get a pat on the head for being a good tattle take talking about two sides to every story.

To that S talker. You're absolutely pathetic.[/QUOTE]I find situations like this really interesting. I took a few months off posting here after having to deal with awkward issues brought on by some fedora tipping white nights. One time a brah tried to duplicate the exact experience of one of my reports, was refused and then literally showed a provider my post. Another was refused a certain level of service and decided to respond to the refusal by saying "some guy named Frank posted that you do that" and then suggested if they knew who that was, they might want to "have him stop posting and getting customers hopes up". And even another was refused something, told the chick "Frankie told me you do this" and then pm'd me that he did that shit like it's no big deal.

Any brah reading this that doesn't already know, let me share something with you. There's no reason at all why chicks need to know about this place. Women don't like simps. You simping yourself to a provider is going to have the opposite impact you're imagining. They'll like and respect you less. You effectively turn yourself into one of their Ugg boots. You're comfortable and easy to use. Remember how the game goes. Providers want your bread and have no loyalty to you. Us here, we're your brahs and we're trying to help you out. Treat this place like Fight Club and stop talking about it.

Frankie.

[QUOTE=FrankDigitola;4946343]I find situations like this really interesting. I took a few months off posting here after having to deal with awkward issues brought on by some fedora tipping white nights. One time a brah tried to duplicate the exact experience of one of my reports, was refused and then literally showed a provider my post. Another was refused a certain level of service and decided to respond to the refusal by saying "some guy named Frank posted that you do that" and then suggested if they knew who that was, they might want to "have him stop posting and getting customers hopes up". And even another was refused something, told the chick "Frankie told me you do this" and then pm'd me that he did that shit like it's no big deal.

Any brah reading this that doesn't already know, let me share something with you. There's no reason at all why chicks need to know about this place. Women don't like simps. You simping yourself to a provider is going to have the opposite impact you're imagining. They'll like and respect you less. You effectively turn yourself into one of their Ugg boots. You're comfortable and easy to use. Remember how the game goes. Providers want your bread and have no loyalty to you. Us here, we're your brahs and we're trying to help you out. Treat this place like Fight Club and stop talking about it.

Frankie.[/QUOTE]YMMV is very true for mongering. The level of service is never the same and to expect it means you're an entitled asshole. To bring up this site as proof just makes you a dumbass. Don't be a dumbass and don't show this site to providers.

[QUOTE=FrankDigitola;4946343]I find situations like this really interesting. I took a few months off posting here after having to deal with awkward issues brought on by some fedora tipping white nights. One time a brah tried to duplicate the exact experience of one of my reports, was refused and then literally showed a provider my post. Another was refused a certain level of service and decided to respond to the refusal by saying "some guy named Frank posted that you do that" and then suggested if they knew who that was, they might want to "have him stop posting and getting customers hopes up". And even another was refused something, told the chick "Frankie told me you do this" and then pm'd me that he did that shit like it's no big deal.

Any brah reading this that doesn't already know, let me share something with you. There's no reason at all why chicks need to know about this place. Women don't like simps. You simping yourself to a provider is going to have the opposite impact you're imagining. They'll like and respect you less. You effectively turn yourself into one of their Ugg boots. You're comfortable and easy to use. Remember how the game goes. Providers want your bread and have no loyalty to you. Us here, we're your brahs and we're trying to help you out. Treat this place like Fight Club and stop talking about it.

Frankie.[/QUOTE]It sucks that this sort of thing happens and specifically to you Frank. Takes all kinds in this world I guess.

[QUOTE=Barkeater;4945708]Also, at some point this month I TOFTT and checked out a places that advertises on Bedpage as "STERLING CLOSE TO DULLS AIRPOST" but has no name or directions, just a phone ending with 1121. Its over near the Walmart in Sterling. I think this is a legit place that has gone to the dark side. I had a strange massage by a younger girl who wore a full body jumpsuit and gave me a weird massage that involved baby oil and pulling on my skin until it hurt. Then at the end I get a reluctant Nova finish with no interaction at all. As I left they gave me a card, with 6 punches you get a free session, but I don't know why anyone would return to this place.

Be safe why'awl.

B.[/QUOTE]Is this place located in an industrial park type of setup and on the second level, just down the road from the Sams Club? If so, I had some good times there probably 9 years ago, above noVa standard, MD level services by one of the girls there. They service regular civilians too and they also gave me a punch card back then.

Chinese is my preferred choice of parlor ethnicity these days. Apart from KK and the Thai members of the HOF, all other providers from the Land of Smiles want a $250 tip on top of the Thai Indy fee just to be barefoot. The Korean chicks massage you with the strength of a 12 year old with congenital muscular dystrophy pre flip, pepper you with more haggling than a Barrett-Jackson Auto Auction post flip and then practically rip your penor off with a newly discovered Power Girl level of upper body strength that was absent during the massage. In my experience, the Chinese providers will almost always give you a 6/10 or better massage and haggle free flip fun all for a reasonable price. Keyword being "almost".

I found myself in the Ballston area of Arlington this past Friday for meetings. All of the parlors in that immediate area to my knowledge are legit. So I searched RM for the closest Chinese place and was directed to Yi Z Spa on 50. Now Chinese spots aren't without their quirks. The Chinese providers tend to come with a higher shelf life than others and sometimes you'll draw a masseuse who looks like she went to high school with David Lo Pan. (Big props to you if you understood that random, Frankie D pop culture reference.) I find myself thankful though as I am greeted by a woman who although slender with no TNA or facial aesthetics, is at least in her early 50's.

She leads me to the room and I request an hour. She begins the dry, introductory portion of the massage where you're covered with a towel or sheet and loosened up. She begins to apply pressure that feels like it wouldn't rip a wet paper bag. My expectations feel like they've been popped in the eye by a Floyd Mayweather jab. She then begins to pinch and squeeze my neck and traps with a level of force that wouldn't squish a newborn ladybug and asks "is that too strong?" My expectations now feel like they've been hit with a right hook from Deontay Wilder after he dumped $619 worth of nickels into his glove. I tell her I can take more pressure but don't get it. The oil massage starts and it feels like the lady is doing her best mixmaster DJ impersonation on my back. A piece of me wanted to flip and cut to the tugger, but decided to just let her finish.

After hot toweling me she flips me and starts an okay ST of the front. She tugger gestures in my general direction, I agree, she oils up and gets to work. I place a hand on her back and, "WTF?! Does this thin bish have on a corset! I'm moved to think. I move my hand up higher and feel heavy duty straps and realize she's wearing a back brace. I'm as hard as a handful of Big League Chew that's been microwaved for 30 seconds.

Her tugger is as good as the other aspects of this experience and the back brace was sufficiently odd. I achieved only a semi. In order to go full mast I decide to use my imagination. One thing you may or may not have deduced about me is that I'm a freak. At some point in my imagination trip I think to myself "I should tip this chick extra to have her take off everything up top EXCEPT the back brace and the oddity of the situation will prompt a magical pop". (Told ya) I'm looking at this woman, imagining her in just the back brace, entertaining proposing the idea to her and then the opposite effect happens and I nearly erupt in laughter. I'm able to catch myself and bridle the laugh into a huge smile. She noticed my smile, smiles back and asked if I like her. I told her I did, she smiled harder and slowed the tugger to a passionate tempo and I eventually grailed the hell out of the room. 6 house, 4 her.

I guess all good things come to an end. I've been on a big teddies streak since the beginning of July, but oh well. I'm sorry I didn't ask the lady her name, but I'm definitely not going back and don't know why any of you brahs would go there either. Only scenario I can imagine is if you were in the area, paid for a hhr and immediately went face up. I don't even think that'd be worth it though honestly.

Frankie.

[QUOTE=Sexingit;4946359]YMMV is very true for mongering. The level of service is never the same and to expect it means you're an entitled asshole. To bring up this site as proof just makes you a dumbass. Don't be a dumbass and don't show this site to providers.[/QUOTE]Some people think these women are fucking robots or something and it baffles me that they think just because they don't get a certain level of service, then that must be true for everyone. Hate to break the hard facts of life to ya, but we all aren't made equal, some chads on this board are rocking chiseled chins, chiseled abs, and big dongs.(and I’ll admit I’m none of the above) Some people got game and they can magician a. 6 tip into something you could only dream of. Maybe if you play your cards right you can get more "bang" for your buck. But there's never a reason to get your panties twisted in a bunch if it doesn't happen. It does and did happen. Just not to you.

And you don't have to show the site to them and whine like children. 99% of the providers know of this site and they read the reviews. Count on it.

[QUOTE=TomasCook;4945998]Hi,

Long time lurker but first time poster. After reading all the last great adventures of people on the board at Papaya I decided to give it a try.

As usual I drive around the parking lot just to check if I see any weird looking cars (maybe I'm too paranoid?) and everything checks out.

I enter and get Annie she is "young" by AMP standard and good looking from what I could tell she had her mask on. I get hh give the house fee and get directed to the room.

Massage was ok ish and the flip was great she is really pleasing and does a great job.

The point of my first post is now. As I head back to my car on the parking lot I saw a brown car with a cop inside. He has his computer pulled up and definitely looked at me enter in my car. As I was driving he seemed to be following with his head movement and probably typed in my plates. I made it home and he didn't follow and so far I didn't hear anything. So please be on the lookout today if you see the same car and I'm now off to googling what is the worst thing that can happen to me if he was to follow-up (if it's a sting or anything like that).

Sad experience but it's worth sharing so you won't be in the same predicament as I am:[/QUOTE]Nothing will happen to you. Most of the time LEO is after bigger fish. If they do have eyes on the place, they'll just simply try to shut it down rather than go after individual mongers. That being said let's assume they do track your plates and try to go after you. As long as you don't incriminate yourself, they have no definitive proof you're not in there receiving a legitimate massage. In fact, for all they know, you stopped in, a completely unsuspecting male who drank too much coffee on his way to work, and just needed to use their bathroom. They can't prove otherwise, and that's why they won't target you. Would be a waste of time.

To the other mongers that get it. Thank you.

To the POS tattle tale, I'm going to respond now to you.

#1. Before I even got on the table while still dressed she told me she wanted to fuck. So your bashing that she gave me a high rate to discourage me is bullshit.

She went immediately to give me head before I said I even wanted to fuck came up. She wanted a ridiculous amount and ran out to give a condom and I declined sex because I was already giving her 160 and thought that was more then generous and included everything.

I have never felt more hustle in my life at an AMP, had she had a gun I think she would have used it to get more funds.

I'm not sure if she was under the influence.

You bash me calling me fat and saying how fat I am. Look stupid if you read my old post you would read about myself poking fun of my weight. I battle with weight like many other good people do.

Can't find my dick because of my gut. That's funny because many other females had no issues finding it in the past. I guarantee you that you have never have had any pussy come close to the good pussy I have had in the past. I have had pussy so good it would make most men cry.

You're a loser and you can run back to best and tattle again. You probably think she's likes you and wants to date you outside. Haha I'm sure.

Don't mind me here just reading the recent reports.

[QUOTE=FrankDigitola;4946466]
I found myself in the Ballston area of Arlington this past Friday for meetings. All of the parlors in that immediate area to my knowledge are legit. So I searched RM for the closest Chinese place and was directed to Yi Z Spa on 50. Now Chinese spots aren't without their quirks. The Chinese providers tend to come with a higher shelf life than others and sometimes you'll draw a masseuse who looks like she went to high school with David Lo Pan. (Big props to you if you understood that random, Frankie D pop culture reference.) I find myself thankful though as I am greeted by a woman who although slender with no TNA or facial aesthetics, is at least in her early 50's.
[/QUOTE]Haha, it's been a while but I love that movie!

[QUOTE=FrankDigitola;4946466]The Korean chicks massage you with the strength of a 12 year old with congenital muscular dystrophy pre flip, pepper you with more haggling than a Barrett-Jackson Auto Auction post flip and then practically rip your penor off with a newly discovered Power Girl level of upper body strength that was absent during the massage. [/QUOTE]I got an image in my head of the TV auctioneer whose assistant would point, shout "WHOOO," and spin in a circle, along with Cartman at the jewelry store. "You like fuck Asian lady. " LOL.

[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CgCjTTYnPKU[/URL]

[QUOTE=BunkerBuster;4948049]I got an image in my head of the TV auctioneer whose assistant would point, shout "WHOOO," and spin in a circle, along with Cartman at the jewelry store. "You like fuck Asian lady. " LOL.

[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CgCjTTYnPKU[/URL][/QUOTE]A south park ref, and a big trouble ref! I don't monger much in nova but sure glad I stop by sometimes. Waiting on a young Frankenstein ref next. Bye for now.

Like the poster below, I had sometime to kill last week and decided to check out Papaya based on good reviews on this board. Location was a nice-looking office park in the Koreatown area of Annandale. I walked in early afternoon with no appointment, and (I later found out) Anna told me to come back in 30 minutes. Was ready to blow it off, but caught a glimpse of Katie as well, and both were younger and she was certainly cuter than what you'd find at the average Chinese-run shop in NoVa.

So I killed some time, went back and was happy to draw Katie. Great rack and very friendly. A really good teasing table shower had me thinking this was going to be a great session. But halfway through the just-OK massage, she left the room and Anna came in, saying Katie was tired, but would be back later. No idea why she quit on me, we were chatting nicely, and it's not like I farted in her face or anything.

Anna finishes the massage (a bit better than Katie'S, maybe B+), but then flips me and starts negotiating. I then start asking what about Katie coming back, but she indicates that's not happening, and seemed a bit annoyed that I was asking for Katie. But Anna is not in her league in either face or body.

Anyway, she gives me full roaming and HJ and it was fine, but I really would have preferred Katie, so a bit disappointing. Would return if I can reserve Katie next time.

I also saw some dude in his car in the lot who seemed to be lurking, but couldn't tell if he was on his phone or what, or maybe waiting for an appointment of his own. As I recall he was in an SUV.

[QUOTE=EdHaskell;4948422]Like the poster below, I had sometime to kill last week and decided to check out Papaya based on good reviews on this board. Location was a nice-looking office park in the Koreatown area of Annandale. I walked in early afternoon with no appointment, and (I later found out) Anna told me to come back in 30 minutes. Was ready to blow it off, but caught a glimpse of Katie as well, and both were younger and she was certainly cuter than what you'd find at the average Chinese-run shop in NoVa.

So I killed some time, went back and was happy to draw Katie. Great rack and very friendly. A really good teasing table shower had me thinking this was going to be a great session. But halfway through the just-OK massage, she left the room and Anna came in, saying Katie was tired, but would be back later. No idea why she quit on me, we were chatting nicely, and it's not like I farted in her face or anything.

Anna finishes the massage (a bit better than Katie'S, maybe B+), but then flips me and starts negotiating. I then start asking what about Katie coming back, but she indicates that's not happening, and seemed a bit annoyed that I was asking for Katie. But Anna is not in her league in either face or body.

Anyway, she gives me full roaming and HJ and it was fine, but I really would have preferred Katie, so a bit disappointing. Would return if I can reserve Katie next time.

I also saw some dude in his car in the lot who seemed to be lurking, but couldn't tell if he was on his phone or what, or maybe waiting for an appointment of his own. As I recall he was in an SUV.[/QUOTE]What you experienced is "provider burnout. " It happens when a place becomes popular after a glowing positive review (s) on here and this, the establishment gets hammered with mongers. Quickly the providers at the establishment gets burnt out quickly. My normal method is to wait a few weeks (after no reviews) to patronize a place that is offering substantial services above noVa standard so that it's easier to get an appointment and not encounter provider burnout.

Went to 11 last night, got Lea (Leia), nice MILF / GILF (early 40's maybe, decent body). Decent massage, nice teasing, and she asked me how much I tipped last time I was in (which was in March). I told her. 6 and she asked for more. I thought it was an interesting approach, to gauge what I was looking for NOVA or more. She got naked, nice finish, I left happy.

[QUOTE=Serpico99;4921983]Based on Pilot Aviators list of places that do edging, I decided to revisit Garden Spa in Burke. I have been here before a couple years ago and got a nice edge session. It's 50 for 30 minutes and 70 for the hour. I thought Joanna was going to be my provider when she answered the door so I opted for the hour but another woman named Eva was the one who came in and did my massage. Typical middle aged Chinese, pretty face from what I can make out with the mask on. Body seemed OK, a little OTC on the butt and her butt was firm.

Eva did an excellent massage. She did a really nice noVa standard with really good edging. I requested to get on all fours and have her milk me like a cow to complete the edging session. I blew pretty good and she knows how sensitive the little head is afterwards so she played with it some more, making me agonize in pleasure.

Will repeat when needing an excellent massage and a good handshake with explosive finish. To me, I would rather get a really good massage and edging noVa standard then the pump and dump that a lot of places, especially Korean AMPs, are doing to mongers. Based on the recent reports on Rt 1 in Woodbridge and Imperial in Anandale, a lot of providers are desperate to make ends meet and are asking ridiculous prices for services[/QUOTE]Went back today as my back was killing me and I needed a legit massage to soothe the muscles. Saw Eva again but only went with the 30 minute option as I had to be somewhere else. Same as before, got all 4 knees and let he milk me like a cow LOL and edged me to a nice release. I really like this place when I need more of a legit massage and a little extra at the end vice looking for an AMP to just blow my load and be done with it. I asked Eva if I could kiss her down below but she politely said no. No big deal. Next time I'll try to Joanna.

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She mentioned "I PROVIDE (Full Option Intimate Nude Body to Body fsNuru Service)". And it's $$. 60. Is this sign of FS?

Dreamt I stopped by 307 last night to get a massage. This place is a typical C-AMP, but it's somewhat new and flashy and they try to follow suit with providers there who also tend to be on the younger side. I'm friends with MMS so I get word when a new girl is dropping in. So I'm introduced to a younger girl maybe late 30's if I had to guess. Long dark hair and big wide eyes and a mask. Honestly these day's it's really hard to tell how hot the girls are when half of there face is covered. She's not a spinner body type but I'd say she's on the thin side. She introduces herself to me as Candy. Like I haven't heard that one before.

Maybe it's just me, but I feel like we've become progressive enough as a society where we can start appreciating authentic Chinese names. They don't have to give their real name but it be nice to walk in and have them introduce themselves as Mei or HuiLing instead of trying to white wash it or pick a confection. Anyway I'm rambling off topic.

So "Candy" gives me 30 minutes, I would have asked for more but I wasn't too liquid having blown most of my cash on the human chucky doll Tiwa at Tyson's. It was a about 10 min of rubbing before she told me to flip, tipping her hand that she's much more used to the ST session than the massage.

Negotiations began and she wanted to gauge with me the maximum amount of money I would be willing to spend on her for the second half of service and I wasn't much in the mood to play Kissinger. It really killed juniors mood so I wasn't running to do FS although if you bring enough cash and your own hat it seems to be on the table for discussion. We settled for a full nude NoVa for. 7 and she undressed. Shes got those pointy dagger nipples that Chinese Asians tend to have, def B cup. A good rack, not great. And a trimmed kitty. She was going super hard on the alcohol drenching both her and myself in isopropyl isolation so I didnt get to taste but I'll give her credit she put in the massive amount of effort it would take to get me off with just a HJ. I'm pretty stubborn and it takes special kind of Chinese ninja arte to pull it off with technical finesse and skill that she was lacking. But in her defense what she lacked in talent she made up for with hard work and grit. She stuck with it for the close to 20 min it took. But eventually after enough titty squeezing and kitty play I exploded and she cleaned me up.

She even offered to give me another massage but then saw the clock and said "oops sorry you're out of time" in the best English she could. It was a good experience overall the negotiations just kinda dampened the mood.

I guess I'm just getting better at withholding my cash and not jumping at the opportunity to get my dick wet and consequently overpaying for it. I've had enough positive and negative experiences that I'm harnessing my instincts, and my instincts here told me I would have overpaid for substandard service.

But who knows I might come back when we're both in a better mood.

[QUOTE=GripNSip;4946687]Some people think these women are fucking robots or something and it baffles me that they think just because they don't get a certain level of service, then that must be true for everyone. Hate to break the hard facts of life to ya, but we all aren't made equal, some chads on this board are rocking chiseled chins, chiseled abs, and big dongs.(and Ill admit Im none of the above) Some people got game and they can magician a. 6 tip into something you could only dream of. Maybe if you play your cards right you can get more "bang" for your buck. But there's never a reason to get your panties twisted in a bunch if it doesn't happen. It does and did happen. Just not to you.

And you don't have to show the site to them and whine like children. 99% of the providers know of this site and they read the reviews. Count on it.[/QUOTE]To the people showing provider reviews, do you honestly expect them to magically change their mind once they sized you up. A past post indicated that most guys are disgusting and think flashing cash will get them every door that others get to enter. We say YMMV because if you're getting scrubbed and she smells it from that distance you think she's going to entertain putting anywhere near her? It's more likely you then her. I have my complaints but they're still human beings and we're not in Thailand where it's a 10:1 ratio. Stop being selfish assholes and understand the game.

[QUOTE=RockSwithSalt;4946325]A couple weeks ago I decided to try this place out as I have been to nearly every AMP in the area but not this one. I think the official name is Relaxation Studio and the pictures are accurate on Yelp and Rubmaps. I texted ahead and agreed on a time, When I got there I discovered their location is on the second floor, no problem however their door was next to a store front that had a church service going on at the time with some people milling around outside, awkward. Greeted by a masked young thing when I reached the top of the stairs and was ushered to an empty couples therapy room and told to wait there. Over 30 minutes later (I timed it) another girl came and got me and took me to my final room. She did and OK job with a massage but I was dreaming about the next stage. After the flip and some upper body work she got to business and without negotiation started a NOVA. She had on tight shorts and I was roaming all around. Got under her loose top and discovered she was probably an A- and her bra had foam falsies. I did not complete my mission and threw the punch card away that I was given when I left, I did drink the bottle of water.[/QUOTE]Is 112x Relaxation Studio or another place? RS has a different #.

[QUOTE=RyanHarvey;4924211]Noticed that too. I wonder if one of the girls got COVID so they closed up shop to quarantine?[/QUOTE]Does anyone know what is going on at Blue Gems? It closed during the last week and this week it has only one person on Tuesday, one on Wednesday, and one on Thursday. That's almost completely closed.

[QUOTE=JustaNon75;4945584]I do know Tara is close with KK. And it seems like a lot of KK's girls get GPS (ie: Lucy) and this is their MO - $120 to get in the door, everything else is extra.

I'm sure Tara and the other indys have fallen on some hard times during this pandemic, but this is not the correct path to make up for lost income. I'm also sure some dudes will happily pay, but the long time regulars will be taken aback by this pretty significant increase in her rates. It's not like Tara is a super-hot mid-20's spinner with an extensive menu -- If we are being honest, she's an attractive, albeit increasingly plump, Thai woman with big tits, in her 40's, who gives a great massage with a fun finish. $120/ hr +tips was a fair price. $160/ hr +tips is too much.[/QUOTE]Obviously YMMV. I respectfully disagree. Tara goes full nude with a lot of sensual play and included a release for 120 for years. At $160, even with her bigger size and older age, those services from her are still a very good value.

I'll close with this. Who else can match that level of service at $160? To my knowledge no one comes close.

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She mentioned "I PROVIDE (Full Option Intimate Nude Body to Body fsNuru Service)". And it's $$. 60. Is this sign of FS?[/QUOTE]For that rate it should be. Try it and let us know.

[QUOTE=Duderino;4950783]Obviously YMMV. I respectfully disagree. Tara goes full nude with a lot of sensual play and included a release for 120 for years. At $160, even with her bigger size and older age, those services from her are still a very good value.

I'll close with this. Who else can match that level of service at $160? To my knowledge no one comes close.[/QUOTE]It's been a few years since I've seen her but she went topless for 1. 6 for me, not fully nude. If it's fully nude with roaming I might go back.

I always got fully nude at 160. And more for a little more.

[QUOTE=Duderino;4950783]Obviously YMMV. I respectfully disagree. Tara goes full nude with a lot of sensual play and included a release for 120 for years. At $160, even with her bigger size and older age, those services from her are still a very good value.

I'll close with this. Who else can match that level of service at $160? To my knowledge no one comes close.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Asphalt;4950858]It's been a few years since I've seen her but she went topless for 1. 6 for me, not fully nude. If it's fully nude with roaming I might go back.[/QUOTE]For 120 I've had full nudity and lots of touching, including a Tara-esque finish. For 200 the sky's the limit.

That said, Tara's massage is a bit better. So not quite apples to Apple comparison.

I want to associate myself with Duderino's positive comments about Tara. Once one considers her great, deep tissue massage with the sensual happy ending it adds up to a special experience. And YMMV, but I think Tara has beautiful eyes, sexy hair, a very pretty face, and her tatas are absolutely fabulous! Plus she is an extremely nice, engaging person. A real sweetheart.

Tara is consistently sensual and customer service oriented. So I'd agree even at $160 Tara is a great value. That's provided you are not looking for a thin, 22 year old. (Side note: There used to be a guy on here who talked a lot about receiving "good value" for one's money. I don't know what happened to him, but he gave extremely valuable feedback on these gals. So I really miss his reports).

Anyway, I've seen her for years. But as I recall, Tara unleashes the girls on a first visit, then she opens up to a bit more after the first couple of visits. So if you are a decent guy who doesn't give off a creepy vibe, or at least act decent and treat her respectfully, you will gain her trust. And it will pay dividends within the confines of her massage & NOVA only services.

However, I have found these guiding principles to be true of 75-80% of these ladies. Treat them like a human being, smile behind your mask, and don't act too aggressive or entitled. That generally works for me. And I tend to get more for my money by just being nice and finding something to sincerely compliment them on.

But yeah, there will always be 10-15% of these gals who have GPS or a consistently bad attitude. And then there are about 4% who are just ill suited for the job and probably won't be around long. Finally, there are the 1% who are straight-up rip offs.

Back to the point: when you think about it, Tara, KK, Nalee, all the 1st wave Thais, have been giving a 1 hour massage plus ending for 120 for well over 10 years. So I don't feel a price bump is price gauging in their case. But I wish it was maybe just a 20 dollar increase instead of forty. Nonetheless, I highly recommend Tara.

[QUOTE=Asphalt;4950858]It's been a few years since I've seen her but she went topless for 1. 6 for me, not fully nude. If it's fully nude with roaming I might go back.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Duderino;4950783]Obviously YMMV. I respectfully disagree. Tara goes full nude with a lot of sensual play and included a release for 120 for years. At $160, even with her bigger size and older age, those services from her are still a very good value.

I'll close with this. Who else can match that level of service at $160? To my knowledge no one comes close.[/QUOTE]

I read a couple of reviews on here and made an h appointment. I think she works Monday through Saturday. Parking is limited, and I had to park and pay on the street. She said you can park at C*stco across the street, I don't know you may need to have membership.

Anyway, Lara advertises on CL and other more "adult" sites. Pics are her, she had jet-black hair when I saw her. Another secure building, and she didn't give me the code, so I had to get someone to let me in. Ask for the code and she may provide. I entered the room and she was already topless. She is African with big breasts (fake I think). She told me she had been FS until she "went legit" (while she stood there with her boobs out!) so more may be available. Also advertises 4 H, but no indication of who her doubles partner might be.

I cleaned up and stripped. She has a professional table and massage equipment. Massage was great with stretching and use of the pulsing machine. On the flip she asked if I wanted HE finish, I said yes. She got fully naked and she let me suck her nipples, rub her ass and lightly kiss her lips while she stroked with lots of oil. I finished, she cleaned me up and performed additional massage on my arms, head and legs until the time was up. She offered water and told me I could stay as long as I liked as she wasn't rushing me out. I didn't hang around much longer.

She told me she is getting a milking table soon, if that is on your "to do" list it may be worth a call. She is talkative and enjoys her own humor. I probably won't repeat as there are better options. It's unfortunate there are so few busty ebony providers in VA who do FBSM. Paid $. 2 plus. 4 tip.

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Regarding Tara, I saw her recently and she was naked before I was. I am semi-regular but hadn't seen her since last winter due to the C19. I always get good service (not FS) besides the previously mentioned occasional shorting of time. Once you are done, it is shower and out, so hold out for as long as you are able LOL. $. 2 plus. 4 for h, $. 6 plus. 4 for 90. She was offering nuru but quoted me $$. 4 plus tip which is more than I want to pay.

[QUOTE=Duderino;4950783]Obviously YMMV. I respectfully disagree. Tara goes full nude with a lot of sensual play and included a release for 120 for years. At $160, even with her bigger size and older age, those services from her are still a very good value.

I'll close with this. Who else can match that level of service at $160? To my knowledge no one comes close.[/QUOTE]At the price point of $. 6, you're bordering FS services with a BJ. I'm not an AMP person but if you find a CMP that's generally. 6 for the hour with a hefty tip of $ (total $. 6) it should grant you access to a CBJ / BBBJ and sometimes FS. I'd even argue that a CBJ / BBBJ can be had with as little as. 4-. 6. With that being said I simply don't see the value of spending $. 6 for a nude handshake.

Personally I think it's a better value to get nudity, BJ and FS from an escort at $. 2 for a QV or HH and then go to a legit massage parlor and spending. 4 for a HH with a. 10/. 15 tip.

You can get the best of both worlds for a few bucks extra without settling for the lesser option. Just my take.