Escort Reports

[QUOTE=PeterJohnson;5387773]This is nothing new. It has always been like this, or at least for the last 20 years, or longer.[/QUOTE]There is a fine line between respectful and sucker. Most of the pros can recognize the difference. When you are dealing with the typical LC ho, it's hit or miss.

The hobby is rapidly changing, the girls don't have to pay any dues and neither do the clients. You used to have to feel your way out more carefully in a situation. It was especially important for the girls, but always a good idea for the avid monger as well. Now they just push as far as they can until someone pushes back. If they got a handler they call him. 9 times out of 10, they are dealing with an amateur monger who freaks out and either runs out the door with his pants off or hands over the keys to his car along with his wallet and apologizes for any inconvenience.

You kind of have to set your boundaries up front. Not by being rude or obnoxious, but by obeying your own rules as often as possible. If you don't have any rules. Make some.

I never let them tell me what to do. Ever. If they tell me to sit on the side of the bed, I sit on the end of the bed, if they tell me to park in the back, I park in the front, if they tell me to grab their tit for an LE check I grab their crotch and so on.

I never step into the room without looking in first.

I never hand them any money. I lay it on a table or a dresser or the bed. Almost always in an unsealed envelope or thank you card marked gift, AFTER I check the head, behind the shower curtain, beside the far bed, between the beds and any clips Ed standing closets.

I always ask if they mind while I'm doing it. "Do you mind if I use your bathroom? Can I have a peek in that closet?" Etc.

If they get sassy, I tell them I left the donation in the car and I'll be right back.

If they ask for the donation as soon as I step in the room, I ask to use the restroom. If they want the donation first, left it in the car.

I never, ever ever ever ever ever let them out of my sight with their clothes on after they have my donation. At least not any more. I have fallen for it twice in 35+ years and both times knew I was getting fuck while I was doing but let Mr. Johnson talk me into it.

If they need to leave the room, or need me to leave the room for any reason, I want the donation back. It's that simple. Barring that I want what I came for. The most common trick is the old "I ran out of condoms, do you have any" trick. My answer is, yes, I sure do.

My final and easier to break but most important rule is that this. No matter what, if my gut feels wrong walk the fuck away, no matter what my duck says, even if she already has my money. I'd rather walk away light 60 bucks than with a civil suit for shooting her pimp. Or worse, assaulting an undercover skunk.

[QUOTE=BolBoy;5387920]What do you mean involved with demons?[/QUOTE]She supposedly has a habit. Put 2 and 2 together, mate.

Anybody ever experienced with her?

[URL]https://40up.com.listcrawler.eu/post/escorts/usa/georgia/atlanta/63138958[/URL]

[QUOTE=LoneWolf5;5388010]Hey, I know I don't post much but it doesn't sit right with me when a provider asks me to buy them stuff on my way. Am I the only one who refuses to do so??[/QUOTE]I have only been asked one or twice in my career, and I have. Last time was years ago as my style has change as to what I will pay money for, so not sure if its used as a tactic or anything.

End of the day though, if you don't want to or feel comfortable doing it, then don't. Only thing you owe them is compensation for their time.

[QUOTE=MrHobbyist;5388266]These two work out of a house in Covington. Lilly is the chubby white girl with the ginormous titties, and Sunshine is the hot as fuck black girl. Both work pretty cheap. Though each has recently taken advantage of the ho-boom and raised their price from 50/80 to 60/80 or 60/100 depending on the day of the week.

Lilly has a decent personality, decent grip and if you're a boob man, she's definitely got those. Sunshine has a smokin hot body, and I do mean smokin, tight tight box and looks phenomenal in both missionary and doggie. Neither will do CG for some reason.

Lilly can't suck a dick to save her life. I'm hung like a stud field mouse and she was gagging and choking on me. Sunshine on the other hand, has some skills, but doesn't do it long enough to matter. At least not with the qv. Also, I should mention, when I saw her, it was in the morning and her breath was kickin. But that might have just been a one off, I don't know.

Sunshine has the personality of an Autistic Doberman. I think if you could somehow meld the two together with Lilly's personality and willingness with Sunshine's looks and sex appeal, you'd have a pretty fine LC ho.

Anyway. I've seen both on separate occasions. If you are looking for a cheap nut, either will do for a qv I have found both really hard to get in touch with. It took me weeks of hit and miss to get a response from Sunshine. I got an answer for Lilly fairly fast, but only once and I've tried a couple of other times.

Both put their ad up for a few hours then take it down when they have made their beer money or whatever, because you don't see them again for a few days or a week.

https://escortalligator.com.listcrawler.eu/post/escorts/usa/georgia/atlanta/63148434

https://escortalligator.com.listcrawler.eu/post/escorts/usa/georgia/atlanta/63142180[/QUOTE]I have seen bad reviews of Lilly. Her rushing tactics and horrible head. She won't give head for long. I actually have tried to set up a meeting with Lilly but she takes ages to respond or doesn't respond at all. Lilly is a YMMV. She deletes her ads for a few weeks or months and returns for a short while. I think she does it for supplemental income for a bit then dips out. She does have a OF. OF providers tend to be iffy and brats must I say.

[QUOTE=LoneWolf5;5388010]Hey, I know I don't post much but it doesn't sit right with me when a provider asks me to buy them stuff on my way. Am I the only one who refuses to do so??[/QUOTE]Only thing I've been asked to buy on the way is Booze, which I always figure is make it a good time for all involved.

This Latina will be in Buckhead this upcoming Friday. Also goes by the name "The MF Goat". She is on the BBW side, no belly damage. Does Greek and can take a pounding no problem, head game is incredible and the kat from my past experience feels good. Has a face tat on her left side of the face. She doesn't get on top though but she is obliging to many positions and is flexible. Just a heads up she is incoming. Damage was. 80 qv or $ for all 3 holes wit her. Didn't rush me or anything.

[URL]https://atlanta.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/caucasian_e/natashas-russian-experience/630412416849[/URL]

Any info on Natasha?

[QUOTE=LoneWolf5;5388010]Hey, I know I don't post much but it doesn't sit right with me when a provider asks me to buy them stuff on my way. Am I the only one who refuses to do so??[/QUOTE]If a provider you've never met prior asks you to buy "stuff" whilst en-route, tell 'em you will deduct the amount from their donation. This usually ends her BS immediately.

Hey Guys,

I was wondering if you know what's going with these providers that only want Cashapp as a form of payment. Are they legit. Is it a scam? Anybody has experience with providers requesting Cashapp? I've been reluctant to take the plunge. I don't want any electronic payments that link to me. Your thoughts?

[QUOTE=TeejayTeejay;5388647]Anybody ever experienced with her?

[URL]https://40up.com.listcrawler.eu/post/escorts/usa/georgia/atlanta/63138958[/URL][/QUOTE]Legit very attractive MILF with lots of reviews.

Pros: looks are great and attitude as well.

Cons: limited menu (CBJ, and doesn't do CG).

If you are looking for a non-GFE with a MILF hottie you will enjoy.

[QUOTE=LoneWolf5;5388010]Hey, I know I don't post much but it doesn't sit right with me when a provider asks me to buy them stuff on my way. Am I the only one who refuses to do so??[/QUOTE]Do not buy providers zilch or drive them anywhere or get them a room. Save your time, gas and money. Meet one who isn't going to play that game. Do not waste your time buying them food, cigarettes etc. If she is hungry she will more than likely rush so she can go eat. If she is stressed and needed smokes. You'll get rushed. I'll reiterate this over and over don't buy them jack. There are a few caveats like if you know them well or regularly see them. You're good with them etc. then by all means do what you please by getting them things and in turn ask for something extra in service or extra time.

[QUOTE=EvaSparkling;5386630]Is it me or is it generally becoming difficult to find providers that let you use the full time you paid for?

Case in point I paid a provider for 30 minutes but not even 10 minutes into the session she's already rushing me to hurry and nut that our time is almost over.

I had to remind her that I paid for 30 minutes and we aren't even halfway through the session.

The funny part is even if you paid for 30 minutes & nut in 15 minutes OR paid for 15 minutes & nut in 5 minutes the expect you to leave immediately.

But once you pay for 30 minutes & take longer than 30 minutes to nut then they expect you to pay for the extra time.

That's why I love the strip club better. You only pay for dances when the stripper is done, the chances of a stripper ripping you off is on the lower side.

Compared to the escorts we pay before even getting the pussy. Once they've the money you loose your bargaining power and they turn into a different being.

If any other business was run with the same lack of customer service as many escorts run their pussy they would be out of business.[/QUOTE]Ask a provider if her rates are "up to the time limit" or "for the full time". My experience has been that the higher end providers (400+) who only offer hours or longer go with the full time. I like booking 30 minute appointments because I am "one and done" so paying for an hour is a waste of time and money. It is my responsibility to manage that 30 minutes so I do not cum in 10 or go over the 30. If you want to "get in, get off and get out", find a provider that offers QVs.

Want a woman WITHOUT the bad attitude? Bypass the Shaneiquas!

[QUOTE=EasyMark;5384737]How it is possible to leave a session after a stellar BBBJTC and still not feel fully satisfied? I found a way with the help of "Supa blowpop top". Imagine a clothed female drill instructor barking orders at you while you sit still in a chair and then blowing you. This may sound fun to some of you, but it's not quite what I was looking for.

Synopsis: Great BBBJ skills with CIM. No DT, not sloppy and no ball play. Fully clothed. No touching. Will not accept any direction.

[URL]https://escortbabylon.net/posts_view/63068753/4702051011[/URL]

Full details below:

After a long pandemic induced hiatus, I'm finally beginning to venture out into the cold cruel world in search of the increasingly elusive high quality BBBJ. I didn't really want anything else.

Not knowing where to begin, I admittedly took a bottom-up approach and consulted List Crawler (LC). I had browsed LC before, but had never actually pulled the trigger with any of the * that post there.

The first thing I noticed was that a high percentage of the ads very explicitly and forcefully rule out anything "bare". I attempted to limit my search to ads that specifically mentioned "head" or "BBBJ" AND ads with at least three positive comments (I do not have access to the LC reviews). Somewhat surprisingly, some of the "head only" posters still rebuffed a BBBJ. How many of you are hooking up with LC providers for CBJs only? Must be a tiny market segment, but who knows.

Being new to the LC game, I also learned just how unresponsive or slow-to-respond these girls can be. This game takes some patience. After weeding out the mud ducks, beached whales, obvious addicts and clear scammers, I reached out to about eight candidates and only had one acceptable and timely response. Most didn't respond at all and some just stopped responding after the initial text.

I pulled the trigger on "Supa blowpop top" who had over 10 positive comments. Photos were limited, but looked acceptable. She foreshadowed the session atmosphere with her aggressiveness about the timing: "how far are you? "GPS my location and tell me when you'll get here", "tell me when you're 5 min out". Nothing too bad, but it was indicator of things to come.

I arrived and ignored her direction to park in a specific area of the hotel parking lot. I walked over to the door she indicated, which was locked. She threw her room key down to me and in I went. I am clearly out of practice and had my guard down because I walked into her room without looking around to see if anyone else was lurking somewhere inside. It was an apartment style hotel and she directed me to a towel-covered chair in the living room area. She is the girl in the photos and was wearing a sports bra and tight workout shorts. After the preliminaries she turned on some music via a Bluetooth speaker. Next she gave more very specific directions "pull your pants and underwear down are remove at least one leg". "Yes, drill sergeant! I laughingly thought to myself. She asked, "do you like it firm, or soft? I replied, "I'll let you know how it feels". Still in bossy- mode, she says," don't give me any direction and no touching!" Now I'm thinking, I've made a really bad choice with this chick.

I got a little nervous when I saw her typing something into her phone before she started. Was she texting her "handler"? I'm sitting there in a very vulnerable position with "one leg out" and it was only then that I realized that I had not scanned the place and had not even looking into the bedroom or the bathroom. My head swiveled around quickly trying to assess the situation. With more direction, she moves in closer, places a few wet wipes under my scrotum and says "spread your legs!" I get even more anxious when she puts her mouth around just the head and closes her lips firmly. For a moment, I thought to myself "is this crazy bat about to bite my junk off? After a few awkward seconds, she finally began what I can only call a very nice enthusiastic BBBJ with good suction, good pressure and good movement. I started to relax and tried to enjoy myself and get all of the weirdness out of my mind.

She was working really hard to get "the nut." Despite the lack of deep throat or sloppiness, her blowjob was excellent. It felt great; but at least for me, she made her work much harder than necessary by setting such a "tough-chick" tone. At one point, as I on the verge of release, my legs began to stiffen and grazed her side. She immediately let out an "Uh Uh" as if to say "Don't touch me!" which almost made me soft again. She did not remove any clothing at all, so the visuals were terrible.

The saving grace for me was a music video playing on the TV behind her with some beautiful bikini clad models dancing around. I focused on them and some memories from a similar porn scene and eventually the explosion arrived. She took it all in her mouth and slipped out the wet wipes from beneath my nuts to wipe off my tip. She then left the room for a moment, most likely to spit.

I cleaned up, pulled up and bounced. Leaving, I felt relieved, but somehow not fully satisfied. She offers full service, but I can't image how that would work with someone who doesn't want to be touched. Does she cut a hole in a sheet and lay it on top of you?

I'm unlikely to repeat, but she did get the job done. I'd say she is worth a try if you go in knowing what to expect. Unfortunately, I had no idea. If you do see her and get FS, I'd love to read that report.

Be Easy![/QUOTE]

Is she real? Anybody get to see her?

[URL]https://40up.com.listcrawler.eu/post/escorts/usa/georgia/atlanta/63179491[/URL]

[QUOTE=Jrody1;5388786]This Latina will be in Buckhead this upcoming Friday. Also goes by the name "The MF Goat". She is on the BBW side, no belly damage. Does Greek and can take a pounding no problem, head game is incredible and the kat from my past experience feels good. Has a face tat on her left side of the face. She doesn't get on top though but she is obliging to many positions and is flexible. Just a heads up she is incoming. Damage was. 80 qv or $ for all 3 holes wit her. Didn't rush me or anything.[/QUOTE]Is there a link?

[QUOTE=MassageAwesome;5389642]Is there a link?[/QUOTE]This is her ad page.

[URL]https://escortbabylon.net/posts_list/7864356114/1[/URL]

[URL]https://independent.com.listcrawler.eu/post/escorts/usa/florida/treasurecoast/63193562[/URL]#.

She'll be in Buckhead Friday. I had her a few months ago when she was in Atlanta. Asshole is tight and she loves it in that hole. Even though she has a face tatt she is no ghetto in person. I know some people wanted to see her but didn't get to. She travels a lot.

[QUOTE=BoJackSugarman;5389083]Legit very attractive MILF with lots of reviews.

Pros: looks are great and attitude as well.

Cons: limited menu (CBJ, and doesn't do CG).

If you are looking for a non-GFE with a MILF hottie you will enjoy.[/QUOTE]Is DATY on the menu?

[QUOTE=Jrody1;5388737]I have seen bad reviews of Lilly. Her rushing tactics and horrible head. She won't give head for long. I actually have tried to set up a meeting with Lilly but she takes ages to respond or doesn't respond at all. Lilly is a YMMV. She deletes her ads for a few weeks or months and returns for a short while. I think she does it for supplemental income for a bit then dips out. She does have a OF. OF providers tend to be iffy and brats must I say.[/QUOTE]I've run into the same thing. I've hit Lilly up about 3 times and no response. Do why'all have her OF link at least? LOL this chic ain't trying to make any money.

[QUOTE=TeejayTeejay;5389572]Is she real? Anybody get to see her?

[URL]https://40up.com.listcrawler.eu/post/escorts/usa/georgia/atlanta/63179491[/URL][/QUOTE]I used to see her years ago, like back in the backpage days. She was really cool and accommodating then, but I can't speak for how that's changed. She used to have a very nice tight body and provide quality service. If you google her name "Kaylani foxxx" she might even have some old videos out there.

[QUOTE=Stereo2020;5390506]I've run into the same thing. I've hit Lilly up about 3 times and no response. Do why'all have her OF link at least? LOL this chic ain't trying to make any money.[/QUOTE]Of course we don't have that link. At least I'm not interested in that sort of thing. She has been using the same video and photos for months. Who knows how big she is now. Women with OF tend to be reluctant on updating their looks because they have this preconceived notion their pics and videos are worth so much since people pay for that nonsense. It'll take a good amount of attempts to finally get a response.

[QUOTE=OopaRam;5389973]Is DATY on the menu?[/QUOTE]She isn't a GFE style provider. So, no.

She's also a bit of a rusher.

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[QUOTE=LexLuthor49;5389068]Hey Guys,

I was wondering if you know what's going with these providers that only want Cashapp as a form of payment. Are they legit. Is it a scam? Anybody has experience with providers requesting Cashapp? I've been reluctant to take the plunge. I don't want any electronic payments that link to me. Your thoughts?[/QUOTE]There are plenty of scams involving CashApp. I certainly wouldn't pay a provider I've never seen before via CashApp, and I'd be wary of using it with a provider I know well.

I'm guessing handlers like CashApp because they don't want their girls handling money with sticky fingers, but beyond that it definitely makes it easier for a provider to just take your money and run.

CashApp has become kind of a "thing" in the hood, where it's used with CPN fraud and the like; I think there's even a rap genre now which revolves around credit card fraud, phishing, CashApp scams, etc. That's probably the source of some interest in using it.

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[QUOTE=BillyJay2333;5386352]I tried to see her, and she wanted a deposit and / or social media site. Long story short, she sent me on a wild goose chase. . . She wouldn't take references or anything. . . Only a deposit. . . Did you all give her that?[/QUOTE]She requires a deposit, real life name verification, photo, weighs 300 pounds and charges 180 for a 15 m.

Ridiculous. People are doing this?

[QUOTE=BillyJay2333;5386352]I tried to see her, and she wanted a deposit and / or social media site. Long story short, she sent me on a wild goose chase. . . She wouldn't take references or anything. . . Only a deposit. . . Did you all give her that?[/QUOTE]I never gave her a deposit. I saw her a year ago and she never asked for that. I did try to make another attempt later on and she did ask me for a deposit (says she doesn't remember me, whatever), so I decided to pass. I don't trust any of them asking for deposit regardless of seeing them in the past.

[QUOTE=TeejayTeejay;5389572]Is she real? Anybody get to see her?

[URL]https://40up.com.listcrawler.eu/post/escorts/usa/georgia/atlanta/63179491[/URL][/QUOTE]This woman been selling herself since I was a teenager!! Yes her old ahhh real LOL.

[URL]https://40up.com.listcrawler.eu/post/escorts/usa/georgia/atlanta/63301169[/URL]

Anyone seen these 2?

Thinking about doing the qv. Hoping it's be like the old school Deanna and G R I T S girls days.

I went and saw Starrrrr rrr recently.

[URL]https://atlanta.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/caucasian_w/youll-love-my-steamy-exotic-se/918055054058[/URL]

Staying at a single family home near the airport. Fairly shabby area, but not the worst. At least there wasn't a dog. Pics aren't accurate in that they're 5 years, 50 abusive boyfriends, 500 frozen pizzas and 5000 cheap beers ago. She's chunkier and older. Legs and arms kinda bruised up. I mean, she's not ugly, but not nearly as good as the pics suggest. She didn't really want to really be touched or be naked, although she didn't say so when I asked at the beginning. I asked for her to take off her clothes and she did the undo the bra and lower it move. Played coy. Kept her body away so it'd be hard to touch. I started to chalk it up as a loss almost right away. Anyway, fairly mediocre service, yada yada. I dipped out with my regret tank about 75% full. Won't repeat.

[QUOTE=PlaidRetina;5393265]She requires a deposit, real life name verification, photo, weighs 300 pounds and charges 180 for a 15 m.

Ridiculous. People are doing this?[/QUOTE]$. 80 for a QV with this whale? Jeez. This woman is charging more than Latina Banessa Juices for an HHR of time. Banessa is $. 60 HH when she was in Atlanta a few months ago. She requires a host of things for verification which is why I never met her again. A few years back she was awesome. Stupid thick ass. Does have a boob job but tits are not stupid hard.

Yes people are paying this rate and are doing all of the above requirements because they are that dumb and don't know any better. You state should does some questionable things which I wouldn't doubt. Idk why women even get attracted to that nonsense. They aren't even doing the real thing if you know what I mean but some do. Sheesh I bet she isn't that flexible either. Probably the only position is doggy LOL.

Be aware of fake ads and potential stings. With this soccer weekend event with Atlanta hosting Mexico vs Honduras you see some questionable things. Next weekend you'll see the same exact thing. Hence you have providers from other states coming to Atlanta and staying because there will be 2 soccer events in the next 2 weeks. Even the horrid providers like Hispanic freak are out LOL.

I'm headed to ATL on business for a couple of days. I'm open to an incall or possibly visiting an AMP.

This Chinese provider is in Nashville now, just left Atlanta after a few days. She has zero reviews anywhere. If anyone saw her I'd appreciate report, PM is ok. Thank you.

[URL]https://www.eros.com/tennessee/nashville/files/3517716.htm[/URL]

[QUOTE=PlaidRetina;5391197]She isn't a GFE style provider. So, no.

She's also a bit of a rusher.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the tips. Many options out there to settle for less.

321xxxx889.

OMG. The dinner date plutonic scammers are now on LC. 200 for a dinner or coffee date. What a fucking joke!

[URL]https://escortalligator.com.listcrawler.eu/post/escorts/usa/georgia/atlanta/63362309[/URL]

[URL]https://www.eros.com/georgia/atlanta/files/1847631.htm[/URL]

She seems legit but wants $100 upfront via cash app. Have any of y'all had an experience with her?

[QUOTE=MajMilkDuds;5397320]OMG. The dinner date plutonic scammers are now on LC. 200 for a dinner or coffee date. What a fucking joke!

[URL]https://escortalligator.com.listcrawler.eu/post/escorts/usa/georgia/atlanta/63362309[/URL][/QUOTE]Bahaha. Some men are actually going to pay for that. No FS and a make believe date that is sub par. Probably saturated with a lot of fake stories. Sad. Jeez her previous ads asking $$.50 for 30 minutes? No FS but has pics of being ass cheeks naked? On SA there are so many platonic women and they also expect a premium for just being there with you. That is why with these platonic women I always ask what of value are you offering me since no FS or anything is being brought. They usually just stop talking or block me.

Where you see one you'll see others follow and start posting on LC. Told you all your going to see some dumbass shit because of the ongoing events in Atlanta. Mainly the soccer events etc for the next 2 weeks. Which will make this city a hot tub for scams, stings and other things. Be aware. This is a first on LC. First it started off with women using LC to advertise their OF page and don't meet. Now this. [URL]https://escortbabylon.net/posts_list/6787596910/1[/URL].

This is like EROS dinner date women but on a lower scale at half the price. It seems like Lexie may be apart of the same crew off of Chamblee I reported on. Pink and blue hair matches another woman I saw in that area. Who I think is garbage like Sunshine and Shelinia in that area. I thought that may be her but nope she had a tattoo on her left thigh horizontally.

What's hilarious is her posting she sells Viagra. Selling unlicensed medicines is illegal. She is just incriminating herself with her post LOL. Can't fix stupid. The game is really getting messed up in Georgia with this nonsense and the people who actually in fact pay them. Hence they are still around.

[QUOTE=MajMilkDuds;5397320]OMG. The dinner date plutonic scammers are now on LC. 200 for a dinner or coffee date. What a fucking joke!

[URL]https://escortalligator.com.listcrawler.eu/post/escorts/usa/georgia/atlanta/63362309[/URL][/QUOTE]They must have ran out of seeking sugar daddies!

[QUOTE=MassageAwesome;5395339][URL]https://40up.com.listcrawler.eu/post/escorts/usa/georgia/atlanta/63301169[/URL]

Anyone seen these 2?

Thinking about doing the qv. Hoping it's be like the old school Deanna and G R I T S girls days.[/QUOTE]I have seen Wendy solo before. I gave my report on her a while back. I tried to do a two girl with them a few months back but they flaked once I got close. They stated they need to go get their dinner at 10 pmish when I was literally 5 minutes away. They told me to wait 30 minutes for them. Yeah I passed. Wendy is decent, if you have Wendy just don't look at her lips when she is giving head LOL. It looks weird but she catches. BBBJ is open but nowadays they are asking extra for everything. MSOG extra, BBBJ extra, CIM extra. Before it was just a flat fee but last time I asked everything was extra. Idk if they have changed. I'd ask about extras in person rather than over the phone because they would be more prone to ask for more than in person. Her friend she is with I have never had. A lot of the pics are old though. Been in use for ages. Give them a try if your inclined on doing so.