Rants Raves and Stupid Shit in Seattle.

[QUOTE=RoflCopter22;5805512]Because they either have fallen in love with a prostitute and he sob story, are prostitutes from TNA who have infiltrated this board to defend bad hooking for outrageous rates, or think that the prostitutes who read this board will see their comments and immediately decide that these cowards deserve better service or discounted rates. Seriously. Any man who advocates for WGs isn't a man. Any man who thinks WGs should be paid hundreds of dollars for covered everything isn't a man he's a cuck. Most importantly any man who would think about paying their hard earned money to have vagina sex with a fat chick is just pathetic. Fat WGs literally exist to do the most degrading things we can imagine to, that's it. If they insist that they won't do anything a man wants really what the fuck is a fat WG good for? I can personally say I've never stuck it in a fat WG's vag just their butthole and mouth.[/QUOTE]I bet that these names guys, have not only gotten emotionally attached to providers before, but would openly admit to it, too!

Obviously the alts are back in force. I'm not sure if they are actually a group of people behind them who are here to try and discredit the board. We have one handle here who posts violent reports toward providers and then gets aggressive toward other members who question "him". I actually believe that "his" reports are actually fake reports and did not actually occur. We have other alts who just spin goofy nonsense. This is all an attempt to render everything here useless. I've been getting PMs from unknown handles which try to provide me with "information" about providers whom I've never met nor know about. I think this is an attempt to spin me in circles trying to meet with said providers who probably don't exist or god knows what else.

Anyone else getting any of this as well? It would probably be the most-known members and contributors here.

I don't think this is the work of one person, I think it's several. But that's just my opinion.

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What's up with all of the pro-abuse incels on this forum lately? [/QUOTE]Frankly, I expect any forum about sex workers to be filled to the brim with incels and incel like personalities.

I don't get the logic that you need to be mean or aggressive or in-your-face to somebody or you are a weakling.

Yes, there are girls out there with serious attitude, serious GPS, and and an obnoxious sense of entitlement. The answer is easy: move on. There is always more pussy out there. And remember that venues change over time and the quality of service changes over time. If you are getting shit service in the venues you know, try a different one.

There are a lot of people with unrealistic expectations out there. I agree that any girl that wants $500 for an unenthusiastic CBJ is pretty obnoxious, but so is a guy that wants BBBJ, BBFS, CIP, and CIA with a hot slender 21 year old blonde for $100. What I think is driving it all is that people want a **sure thing* Most of us are presumably adults and know this is a risky activity and there ain't any such thing.

COVID has bitched up a lot of stuff, and certainly has seriously trashed mongering. My two very best girls ever are both permanently out of the biz. But life goes on and there are always more girls, somewhere.

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I can just hear it now -.

"But they're just wh**es. That's all they are, wh**es. Worthless, less-than-human wh**es. Only a REAL man finds a worthless wh**es and MAKES her bend to his will. Anyone else is merely a faggot. ".

LOL.

I will say this, the faggots I know draw-in more chicks than any one of use could ever dream of, LOL. Perhaps maybe they're doing something right, I don't know.

All of this craziness is from an alt, anyway. I think we've all been duped.

[QUOTE=MarkoRamius;5807237]I agree that any girl that wants $500 for an unenthusiastic CBJ is pretty obnoxious, but so is a guy that wants BBBJ, BBFS, CIP, and CIA with a hot slender 21 year old blonde for $100.[/QUOTE]

I have a favorite aunt. But, that doesn't mean that we don't have heated disagreements on things.

We were having a discussion about something, and she dismissed something I said while we were texting:

She used the ZZZ emoji, in response.

I went off on her. I told her not to call or text me.

I'm not taking no ZZZ emoji bullshit from a literally 85 year old Grandmother.

I didn't mind her dismissing what I had to say. But, blow it off like a Grandmother, in other words, sound like a nag.

Act your age, not your shoe size.

When a guy is at a bar, and a girl asks him to buy her a drink, and he does. And, then the girl takes the drink, and gives it to her boyfriend.

Why does she do that?

If it was merely to get a drink that costs 10-30 dollars, on someone else's Dollar, I could understand this.

But, is there some kind of stupid childish game going on here?

Remember Biz Mart? I worked there. At orientation, our manager asked, Why do people steal? Need, greed, or excitement? We all said Greed: Trying to get something without having to pay for it. Our manager said the correct answer is Excitement.

Does this said girl give herself points on her internal scoreboard, whenever she can use her looks and charm and manipulation, to get a guy to buy her, and her boyfriend, a drink?

I honestly don't get it.

[QUOTE=BrianShinamot;5807309]I have a favorite aunt. But, that doesn't mean that we don't have heated disagreements on things.

We were having a discussion about something, and she dismissed something I said while we were texting:

She used the ZZZ emoji, in response.

I went off on her. I told her not to call or text me.

I'm not taking no ZZZ emoji bullshit from a literally 85 year old Grandmother.

I didn't mind her dismissing what I had to say. But, blow it off like a Grandmother, in other words, sound like a nag.

Act your age, not your shoe size.[/QUOTE]Zzz used to be the sleeping emoji. Going back at least 20 years. It meant you're boring.

I have no idea how old you are. Didn't bother reading back. But this under-30 crap that everyone should constantly adjust to your new definitions for old words, signs and symbols is immature and self-centered.

You did her a favor and a disservice at the same time. Send her flowers (she'll be thrilled) with a note telling her that you love her and sometimes forget that she doesn't have your goldfish-memory attention span.

[QUOTE=Rousse;5807341]Zzz used to be the sleeping emoji. Going back at least 20 years. It meant you're boring.

I have no idea how old you are. Didn't bother reading back. But this under-30 crap that everyone should constantly adjust to your new definitions for old words, signs and symbols is immature and self-centered.

You did her a favor and a disservice at the same time. Send her flowers (she'll be thrilled) with a note telling her that you love her and sometimes forget that she doesn't have your goldfish-memory attention span.[/QUOTE]I have no problem with her saying I was boring. Saying, You're boring me with that, would have been fine. Even Shaddup would have been fine, because she was born in 1936.

I respectfully disagree on the adjustment matter. Another example is, I dealt with a woman from Japan, for business dealings. She used to be married to a Caucasian American man. They got an amicable divorce. He wanted children, and she didn't. She became an American citizen, and wants to live in America the rest of her life. Well, I got pissed at her, because she hasn't adjusted to the fact that American males have emotions and feelings, too. Someone tried to tell me, that Japanese men are very stoic, so maybe she's not used to emotional men.

[URL]https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=osHzZPiOc2g[/URL]

So, these fat women act like they're entitled to have handsome men drool over them, the same way he would a young, slim cutie.

Looks like these fat women have been coddled by those cucks on TNA!

[QUOTE=RoflCopter22;5806138]Wow. So you've degraded yourself to calling me broke because I genuinely hate bad prostitute practices. Every prostitute I've talked about here has done what I've experienced and I'm sorry you are upset that they won't do it for you. Hey maybe one of the obese ones you pay $400 to pork with a condom on them cuddle with and bask in their company will finally give you a real hummer, but they probably sense that you're a giant mark and will defend them to your grave.

If you want to compare net worth I'm down, but it's not about that. It's about you defending bad hooking. You defending women who only care about sucking every last dollar out of every man on here which makes you look like a *****. I'm sure every guy no matter how deep down pussy whipped he is by his "ATF" prostitute agrees with me over you. What fucking hooker turned you to the dark side?[/QUOTE]Our friend Matt, his wife did not want him to have a Bachelor Party! They got married when he was only 26. How about one last harrah for him?

We hear that he is being pussy whipped.

Now, we all know about Doug Christie's ugly wife. Bill Simmons of ESPN suggested, if you have a friend who is pussy whipped, chip in and anonymously send him a Doug Christie jersey!

About his ugly wife Jackie: Doug Christie actually said, "Sigh. If you could feel as good as I do, you would be whipped, too. ".

Doug Christie does the equivalent, of a TNA cuck paying 500 for subpar looking women, and subpar service.

[QUOTE=RoflCopter22;5806138]Wow. So you've degraded yourself to calling me broke because I genuinely hate bad prostitute practices. Every prostitute I've talked about here has done what I've experienced and I'm sorry you are upset that they won't do it for you. Hey maybe one of the obese ones you pay $400 to pork with a condom on them cuddle with and bask in their company will finally give you a real hummer, but they probably sense that you're a giant mark and will defend them to your grave.

If you want to compare net worth I'm down, but it's not about that. It's about you defending bad hooking. You defending women who only care about sucking every last dollar out of every man on here which makes you look like a *****. I'm sure every guy no matter how deep down pussy whipped he is by his "ATF" prostitute agrees with me over you. What fucking hooker turned you to the dark side?[/QUOTE]Never implied you were broke, just immature and mentally weak. Never defended bad providers or poor service, just called you out on your treatment of ladies and your borderline rapist behaviors.

There is a reason you are DNS for many providers. Between your utter disregard for their boundaries and your rob reports you are persona non grata.

[QUOTE=BrianShinamot;5804892][URL]https://www.quora.com/Police-officers-Have-you-ever-had-to-arrest-a-person-that-you-personally-did-not-think-should-be-arrested-What-was-the-situation[/URL]

Read this.

[/QUOTE]When did I say women are NEVER wrong? Go ahead, I'll wait. Glad (no I'm not) to see you made a new handle for your daily dose of blah blah blah. Make a blog and post it there instead.

[QUOTE=Camhole;5809102]Never implied you were broke, just immature and mentally weak. Never defended bad providers or poor service, just called you out on your treatment of ladies and your borderline rapist behaviors.

There is a reason you are DNS for many providers. Between your utter disregard for their boundaries and your rob reports you are persona non grata.[/QUOTE]I've never once robbed anyone and if a hooker won't do what I want I walk away. I don't force them into anything. If I'm paying them for an hour exponentially more than I pay my attorney or accountant then fuck yes I expect great service. Expecting nothing less for 4-5 clams is ridiculous. I get you're in love with your ATF provider but stop fucking defending all hookers. Jiminy Christmas.

[QUOTE=RoflCopter22;5810460]I've never once robbed anyone and if a hooker won't do what I want I walk away. I don't force them into anything. If I'm paying them for an hour exponentially more than I pay my attorney or accountant then fuck yes I expect great service. Expecting nothing less for 4-5 clams is ridiculous. I get you're in love with your ATF provider but stop fucking defending all hookers. Jiminy Christmas.[/QUOTE]Well stated.

[QUOTE=RoflCopter22;5810460]I've never once robbed anyone and if a hooker won't do what I want I walk away. I don't force them into anything. If I'm paying them for an hour exponentially more than I pay my attorney or accountant then fuck yes I expect great service. Expecting nothing less for 4-5 clams is ridiculous. I get you're in love with your ATF provider but stop fucking defending all hookers. Jiminy Christmas.[/QUOTE]You don't seem smart enough to follow my posts so let me dumb it down to a level that even Honestone can understand. Well, maybe I can't get it that simple but let's try anyways.

I calling you an abusive piece of shit. Is that clear enough for you?

Sooner or later you are going to push one of these girls too far and you'll end up in prison or dealing with their dude. Either way it won't be too long till you end up on some daddy's dick.

Here's some advice that most guys learn when we're young. Fat bitches are free. You don't need to pay them like you pay your lawyer. Dumbass.

[QUOTE=Camhole;5811143]You don't seem smart enough to follow my posts so let me dumb it down to a level that even Honestone can understand. Well, maybe I can't get it that simple but let's try anyways.

I calling you an abusive piece of shit. Is that clear enough for you?

Sooner or later you are going to push one of these girls too far and you'll end up in prison or dealing with their dude. Either way it won't be too long till you end up on some daddy's dick.

Here's some advice that most guys learn when we're young. Fat bitches are free. You don't need to pay them like you pay your lawyer. Dumbass.[/QUOTE]Why would I end up in prison for something a hooker agrees to do for money? Why would a pimp get involved for the same reason? I've never been abusive LOL. You're just making shit up now to defend the fact that you're clearly love struck by a hooker and will defend them till you die. I got news for you cuck she doesn't love you back and thinks you're just as much of a simp as we all do as well but she would never tell you that to your face.

I know fatties are free. Hence why when every fat hooker I've paid for it was only to do stuff that even a fat chick at a bar would probably not do. I have never stuck it in their vag. It's always been for bare anal, atm, rimming, swallowing, etc. The big hookers that don't do any of that stuff and want "gentlemen" like you are even more useless than the very attractive all safety girls. Like I said. Go pay some heifer $4 for an hour of covered vag sex then cuddle with her and tell her how beautiful she is. That's clearly your cup of tea.

I will arrive Seattle to start my new job later this week. Just curious what the law is on tinted windows on cars in Washington, are cops dicks about it to enforce? My windows are currently tinted sides and back at 30% its not legal in NV but never been bothered.

I've noticed, that in this thread, a senior member calls out someone, and then all of a sudden, four or five other senior members then chime in, and basically pile on the person being attacked. One person pushed back against Rolfdog, and then five other senior members now feel safe enough to start piling on.

It's like, when bullying another boy at school, after three other boys have him held down, next a fourth boy comes in and kicks the boy being bullied.

This definitely looks like pack mentality here.

I wonder if the senior members confer with each other by messages, to agree to have four or five speak up and gang up on the person.

When with a protection of a big strong group, people often do and say things they wouldn't say, if they were alone.

[QUOTE=RoflCopter22;5811205]Why would I end up in prison for something a hooker agrees to do for money? Why would a pimp get involved for the same reason? I've never been abusive LOL. You're just making shit up now to defend the fact that you're clearly love struck by a hooker and will defend them till you die. I got news for you cuck she doesn't love you back and thinks you're just as much of a simp as we all do as well but she would never tell you that to your face.

I know fatties are free. Hence why when every fat hooker I've paid for it was only to do stuff that even a fat chick at a bar would probably not do. I have never stuck it in their vag. It's always been for bare anal, atm, rimming, swallowing, etc. The big hookers that don't do any of that stuff and want "gentlemen" like you are even more useless than the very attractive all safety girls. Like I said. Go pay some heifer $4 for an hour of covered vag sex then cuddle with her and tell her how beautiful she is. That's clearly your cup of tea.[/QUOTE]Lets just agree to disagree. LOL. Moving on.

[QUOTE=SfoDavid67;5811507]I will arrive Seattle to start my new job later this week. Just curious what the law is on tinted windows on cars in Washington, are cops dicks about it to enforce? My windows are currently tinted sides and back at 30% its not legal in NV but never been bothered.[/QUOTE]I believe it depends on the diff city, and cops etc. Look up the laws. Mine are 20% , no problem here.

[QUOTE=RoflCopter22;5811205]Why would I end up in prison for something a hooker agrees to do for money? Why would a pimp get involved for the same reason? I've never been abusive LOL. You're just making shit up now to defend the fact that you're clearly love struck by a hooker and will defend them till you die. I got news for you cuck she doesn't love you back and thinks you're just as much of a simp as we all do as well but she would never tell you that to your face.

I know fatties are free. Hence why when every fat hooker I've paid for it was only to do stuff that even a fat chick at a bar would probably not do. I have never stuck it in their vag. It's always been for bare anal, atm, rimming, swallowing, etc. The big hookers that don't do any of that stuff and want "gentlemen" like you are even more useless than the very attractive all safety girls. Like I said. Go pay some heifer $4 for an hour of covered vag sex then cuddle with her and tell her how beautiful she is. That's clearly your cup of tea.[/QUOTE]Doug Christie would say in this scenario: Regarding these overweight, unattractive girls with poor service, "Sigh, If you felt as good with them as I do, you would pay 600 dollars an hour for CBJ too. ".

[QUOTE=AsaMona22;5811624]Lets just agree to disagree. LOL. Moving on.[/QUOTE]Not possible. We have lived in an age, where if you disagree with someone, that person automatically dubbs you as being wrong.

Either you agree with me, or you're wrong and stupid, which unfortunately is the world we live in.

[QUOTE=KeatsAiken;5811530]I've noticed, that in this thread, a senior member calls out someone, and then all of a sudden, four or five other senior members then chime in, and basically pile on the person being attacked. One person pushed back against Rolfdog, and then five other senior members now feel safe enough to start piling on.

It's like, when bullying another boy at school, after three other boys have him held down, next a fourth boy comes in and kicks the boy being bullied.

This definitely looks like pack mentality here.

I wonder if the senior members confer with each other by messages, to agree to have four or five speak up and gang up on the person.

When with a protection of a big strong group, people often do and say things they wouldn't say, if they were alone.[/QUOTE]No one messaged me to say anything. I just hate "men" who defend bad hooker practices. We should all be together on fat hookers being the outlet for the sickest stuff and absolutely never giving them a dime to have actual sex with them and we should all hate all safety girls. I really don't think that's too much to ask for.

[QUOTE=RoflCopter22;5811205]Why would I end up in prison for something a hooker agrees to do for money? Why would a pimp get involved for the same reason? I've never been abusive LOL. You're just making shit up now to defend the fact that you're clearly love struck by a hooker and will defend them till you die. I got news for you cuck she doesn't love you back and thinks you're just as much of a simp as we all do as well but she would never tell you that to your face.

I know fatties are free. Hence why when every fat hooker I've paid for it was only to do stuff that even a fat chick at a bar would probably not do. I have never stuck it in their vag. It's always been for bare anal, atm, rimming, swallowing, etc. The big hookers that don't do any of that stuff and want "gentlemen" like you are even more useless than the very attractive all safety girls. Like I said. Go pay some heifer $4 for an hour of covered vag sex then cuddle with her and tell her how beautiful she is. That's clearly your cup of tea.[/QUOTE]Well, well stated!

Alright, here's some stupid shit which none of you fuckers care anything about -.

Yesterday I finished two straight months of barbell squatting every day. I did at least one rep at 90% of my 1 rep max every single day. If I felt good, I'd go up. At least once every week I'd test my 1 rep max. I'd swap between front squats and low-back squats every other day. Let me tell all of you stupid fuckers something. My front squat max went up [I]dramatically[/I]. Of course my back squat went up quite a bit too, but I saw the biggest gain in my barbell front squat. My jump is better and I can sprint like a fuckin cheetah. And my clean / power clean / clean cluster is a lot more powerful.

Let me also tell you fuckers something. The muscles around my knees feel solid. Same with my hips. I'm much more flexible from squatting every day and the joints don't hurt. I'm very, very solid when I stand, walk or run. Some of you old fuckers might want to check into this.

So don't you fuckers piss me off, I'll kick all of your aging asses.

Jesus Christ, you dumb asses,

LMAO.

fuck Fuck FUCK FUUUUUUUCK

[QUOTE=RoflCopter22;5811934]No one messaged me to say anything. I just hate "men" who defend bad hooker practices. We should all be together on fat hookers being the outlet for the sickest stuff and absolutely never giving them a dime to have actual sex with them and we should all hate all safety girls. I really don't think that's too much to ask for.[/QUOTE]Again you fail to understand my posts. Let me try again. You are a piece of shit. Don't think I can say it any clearer, but I'm sure you'll try.

[QUOTE=StreetTroller;5812505]Alright, here's some stupid shit which none of you fuckers care anything about -.

Yesterday I finished two straight months of barbell squatting every day. I did at least one rep at 90% of my 1 rep max every single day. If I felt good, I'd go up. At least once every week I'd test my 1 rep max. I'd swap between front squats and low-back squats every other day. Let me tell all of you stupid fuckers something. My front squat max went up [I]dramatically[/I]. Of course my back squat went up quite a bit too, but I saw the biggest gain in my barbell front squat. My jump is better and I can sprint like a fuckin cheetah. And my clean / power clean / clean cluster is a lot more powerful.

Let me also tell you fuckers something. The muscles around my knees feel solid. Same with my hips. I'm much more flexible from squatting every day and the joints don't hurt. I'm very, very solid when I stand, walk or run. Some of you old fuckers might want to check into this.

So don't you fuckers piss me off, I'll kick all of your aging asses.

Jesus Christ, you dumb asses,

LMAO.

fuck Fuck FUCK FUUUUUUUCK[/QUOTE]Fuck!

Just getting back into the gym after 2+ years. At this age I'm having to start slow and squats, fronts or backs are a long way from joining the routine. Any advice for hips? A weak spot on me.

[QUOTE=Camhole;5813366]Fuck!

Just getting back into the gym after 2+ years. At this age I'm having to start slow and squats, fronts or backs are a long way from joining the routine. Any advice for hips? A weak spot on me.[/QUOTE]Over 40 then I only have one suggestion.

TRT.

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[QUOTE=StreetTroller;5812505]Yesterday I finished two straight months of barbell squatting every day. I did at least one rep at 90% of my 1 rep max every single day. If I felt good, I'd go up. At least once every week I'd test my 1 rep max. I'd swap between front squats and low-back squats every other day. Let me tell all of you stupid fuckers something. My front squat max went up [I]dramatically[/I]. Of course my back squat went up quite a bit too, but I saw the biggest gain in my barbell front squat. My jump is better and I can sprint like a fuckin cheetah. And my clean / power clean / clean cluster is a lot more powerful.

Let me also tell you fuckers something. The muscles around my knees feel solid. Same with my hips. I'm much more flexible from squatting every day and the joints don't hurt. I'm very, very solid when I stand, walk or run. Some of you old fuckers might want to check into this.[/QUOTE]This doesn't mean squat.

[QUOTE=WaRubMonger;5813400]Over 40 then I only have one suggestion.

TRT.[/QUOTE]What's TRT?

[QUOTE=Jimmysixxx7;5813576]What's TRT?[/QUOTE]Testosterone. Google TRT.

[QUOTE=WaRubMonger;5813592]Testosterone. Google TRT.[/QUOTE]I inject testosterone in my ass each week. It works.

[QUOTE=Michael1967;5813597]I inject testosterone in my ass each week. It works.[/QUOTE]Nope. No longer flexible enough. I'm a thigh man personally. And yes, it does.

[QUOTE=Michael1967;5813597]I inject testosterone in my ass each week. It works.[/QUOTE]Why do you do injections rather than the gel? Been on TRT for 15 years, can't imagine putting a needle in my ass all that time.

I don't know much about testosterone treatments, but is it true that once you start you are essentially stuck on them for life? The body quickly stops making it if you go on treatments, correct?

I'm well over 40 but very athletic and have been for quite a while. I do things most people my age don't do. Not just heavy weights, but a lot of sprinting, jumping, rolling, climbing and overall conditioning. I do parkour, that kind of stuff. I've never needed treatments nor supplements aside from protein. I might take vitamins for a time but that's it. I drink a lot of water and eat pretty damn well every day. Sleep, too. The great thing about squatting every day or a few times a week particularly heavy weights, is that it can increase testosterone. Could be why I've been out trolling for chicks more often lately, I don't know. I probably don't get the same amount of testosterone as I would via treatments, but I've always been nervous about going on that stuff. I don't like fuckin around with my hormones like that, but I get that some people are alright with it.

Are you able to come off?

[QUOTE=WaRubMonger;5813592]Testosterone. Google TRT.[/QUOTE]

Yup, stretch, nearly every day and often throughout the day. Not a PT nor a doctor, but I have a friend who is both a PT and an amateur weightlifting competitor and coach. He actually travels around the country to compete. He gave me some stretches and ideas long ago which I still use. He told me that it's important to also give the body some time-off from stretching, like one or two days every week. I don't usually stretch on weekends, for example. He also told me not to stretch too much just prior to lifting nor doing anything crazy physical.

Regarding specific stretches, the ones which ultimately worked really well for me were the couch stretch and it's derivatives, various stretches while lying on the back, the squat stretch and a few other hip-flexor stretches for which I don't have names. If you want to do front squats or cleans you'll also have to work on your wrist flexibility. Some good ones on YouTube. Just note that some may or may not work for you so well. If you're serious about being more flexible you might want to see a sports PT. He or she will evaluate your body and give you the best options for you in one simple appointment.

[QUOTE=Camhole;5813366]Just getting back into the gym after 2+ years. At this age I'm having to start slow and squats, fronts or backs are a long way from joining the routine. Any advice for hips?[/QUOTE]

Of course I am not a dr and you should never take medical advice from me.

Cream vs injection is like baby aspirin for a headache when you should be taking the potent stuff prescribed by a dr for a migraine.

Personally, I had extremely low production, super high sbgh, and resulting numbers of near non existing free T.

I will never come off, yes, my body now naturally produces zero. You can come off yes, with medical assistance.

Regarding the needle. No big deal at all. One shot a week. I look forward to it. Easy at home self administered. Blood tests twice a year.

I'm mid 40's and have been on for 3 years. Clearly not right for everyone but if curious do some reading.

Pm me if you want clinic info or more details.

When I tested i had these...
Total T 323
Free T 6.1
SBGH 58.5

Yes, you need to look this stuff up to really know...

Now, I'm at .85cc of 200mg/ml weekly
Half tab anti estro post injection

7 days post shot i test at, on average

Total T 850
Free T 15.5
SBGH 45

That essentially means I stay at a nice saturation level and that mevel of T is very much bio available and my other hormone is not sucking up that available T. This is a happy place!

Cheers.