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Sky 1 Spa is a rip off
[QUOTE=Rhinorot;2295400]Wow, what a ripoff, seriously.
Walked in at Sky 1 Spa at 1 pm today.
Paid $80 for one hour with table shower (this better be good).
Message is half ass. Really. Just lightly brush my back. Then she asked me to turn over and offered me $100 HJ, $120 CBJ, and $160 FS! Wow, you got to be kidding me girl. I counter offer (reasonable offer) and then she says "no, this is a going rate". LOL, right.
I turned down the offered and she stopped and finished the message less than 30 mins.
Wow. Wow.
Never again I'm coming back.[/QUOTE]This sucks. I was planning on my first visit to Sky One on Monday. Glad I read this report. If they are demanding that much for FS then I might as well go to one of the Ohare Asains. More likely I will stay with Crystal or Pine Tree.
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I was there once and was not impressed.
[QUOTE=E6671;2295717]This sucks. I was planning on my first visit to Sky One on Monday. Glad I read this report. If they are demanding that much for FS then I might as well go to one of the Ohare Asains. More likely I will stay with Crystal or Pine Tree.[/QUOTE]
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I never thought about carpal tunnel. LOL.
I use We Chat now. Thanks for that tip!
[QUOTE=Bob521;2295662]Agree about inflation. I really think the Korean places are pushing that price trend more than the Chinese places. But that's probably just my opinion. But my real theory is that Yun is mainly a FS place. So in their mind (time is money) HJs are just not worth the time or the effort. They can F* you for much less effort (no carpal tunnel) and get $100-$120 tip instead of $40. And probably finish faster as well.
By contrast, Chinese is $60-$65 door fee. (but usually no table shower), $40 HE and a real massage. But FS only after they get to know you. Almost NEVER have a price negotiation before the deed.
The point is if you are going for [U]just[/U] HE, then why go to Yun at all? Go Chinese, pay $60 door + $40 tip and you are saving a fair amount of change and getting a better experience.
Then if you are in it for the long game, (months or years) it is really easier to stay in touch with Chinese girls (using WeChat) and by doing this you can build the trust and rapport necessary to take your visits to the next level, (including take out in most cases). Many just want the sex (offsite) and not the money. GFE, in each case, frankly mind blowing fun. Bob.[/QUOTE]
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I recommend WeChat also. It has the same or more functionality as other chat clients, is used by many, many Chinese women in the business, and you can translate between English and Chinese and vice versa.
[QUOTE=Bob521;2295662]Agree about inflation. I really think the Korean places are pushing that price trend more than the Chinese places. But that's probably just my opinion. But my real theory is that Yun is mainly a FS place. So in their mind (time is money) HJs are just not worth the time or the effort. They can F* you for much less effort (no carpal tunnel) and get $100-$120 tip instead of $40. And probably finish faster as well.
By contrast, Chinese is $60-$65 door fee. (but usually no table shower), $40 HE and a real massage. But FS only after they get to know you. Almost NEVER have a price negotiation before the deed.
The point is if you are going for [U]just[/U] HE, then why go to Yun at all? Go Chinese, pay $60 door + $40 tip and you are saving a fair amount of change and getting a better experience.
Then if you are in it for the long game, (months or years) it is really easier to stay in touch with Chinese girls (using WeChat) and by doing this you can build the trust and rapport necessary to take your visits to the next level, (including take out in most cases). Many just want the sex (offsite) and not the money. GFE, in each case, frankly mind blowing fun. Bob.[/QUOTE]
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Stupid question
Earlier someone was explaining the difference between the Korean places vs the Chinese. So here is the stupid question, how can you tell which one is Korean and which are Chinese?
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Dumb question
How do you know if the place is korean or Chinese? Not trying to be funny.
[QUOTE=Bob521;2295662]Agree about inflation. I really think the Korean places are pushing that price trend more than the Chinese places. But that's probably just my opinion. But my real theory is that Yun is mainly a FS place. So in their mind (time is money) HJs are just not worth the time or the effort. They can F* you for much less effort (no carpal tunnel) and get $100-$120 tip instead of $40. And probably finish faster as well.
By contrast, Chinese is $60-$65 door fee. (but usually no table shower), $40 HE and a real massage. But FS only after they get to know you. Almost NEVER have a price negotiation before the deed.
The point is if you are going for [U]just[/U] HE, then why go to Yun at all? Go Chinese, pay $60 door + $40 tip and you are saving a fair amount of change and getting a better experience.
Then if you are in it for the long game, (months or years) it is really easier to stay in touch with Chinese girls (using WeChat) and by doing this you can build the trust and rapport necessary to take your visits to the next level, (including take out in most cases). Many just want the sex (offsite) and not the money. GFE, in each case, frankly mind blowing fun. Bob.[/QUOTE]
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Good point
[QUOTE=BlueUc;2297659]How do you know if the place is korean or Chinese? Not trying to be funny.[/QUOTE]There are a few ways, but mostly, you get to know based on experience. Here's a couple things about 80% true.
1. Korean characters are distinctly different from Chinese or Japanese. They sort of have squarer edges and circles. Chinese characters really look more like pictures.
2. Chinese places "usually" charge $60-$65 as a door fee. Korean $70 or $80. M P Reviews and Rub Maps lists the door fees, you can check. This is a pretty good gauge.
3. Korean girls' faces are slightly different from Chinese. I think. But on this I am probably full of crap, so I won't even try to describe the difference.
4. Korean places have table showers much more often than Chinese.
5. Chinese places, the walls don't always go to the ceiling.
6. Hello in Chinese is Ni Hao. How are you is Ni Hao Ma? (Answer Wo hen hao: I am fine).
7. Chinese girls, often speak less English, and less likely to drive.
8. Ask them. Where is your family from?
9. If they won't blow you on the first visit they are probably Chinese. (Fortunately, for me this is not always true.)
10. Chinese girls use WeChat 80% of the time. Korean - I'm not sure, but think they don't.
11. Most of the guys on the forum know from having been to a place. My area is Lake County / North Cook County so you can ask if you are not sure.
Bob.
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Thanks
[QUOTE=Bob521;2297972]There are a few ways, but mostly, you get to know based on experience. Here's a couple things about 80% true.
1. Korean characters are distinctly different from Chinese or Japanese. They sort of have squarer edges and circles. Chinese characters really look more like pictures.
2. Chinese places "usually" charge $60-$65 as a door fee. Korean $70 or $80. M P Reviews and Rub Maps lists the door fees, you can check. This is a pretty good gauge.
3. Korean girls' faces are slightly different from Chinese. I think. But on this I am probably full of crap, so I won't even try to describe the difference.
4. Korean places have table showers much more often than Chinese.
5. Chinese places, the walls don't always go to the ceiling.
6. Hello in Chinese is Ni Hao. How are you is Ni Hao Ma? (Answer Wo hen hao: I am fine).
7. Chinese girls, often speak less English, and less likely to drive.
8. Ask them. Where is your family from?
9. If they won't blow you on the first visit they are probably Chinese. (Fortunately, for me this is not always true.)
10. Chinese girls use WeChat 80% of the time. Korean - I'm not sure, but think they don't.
11. Most of the guys on the forum know from having been to a place. My area is Lake County / North Cook County so you can ask if you are not sure.
Bob.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the eplanation. I had no idea. Rocket Dork.
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Thanks
Thanks for the info bob! And sorry I didn't mean to post twice that was an accident.
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We Chat
How do you locate providers on there? I looked at briefly on my phone but did not see a search function.
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WeChat
[QUOTE=GeorgeW.Bush;2298424]How do you locate providers on there? I looked at briefly on my phone but did not see a search function.[/QUOTE]You don't search for providers on WeChat. At least I don't know how.
The whole purpose is to add a person right after a massage. [U]Whisper[/U] something like "That was a wonderful massage. I want to be able to see you again. Is that ok?" If she says yes, (which, of course she will) then asks if she uses WeChat. Say you are afraid she might go somewhere else and you will never see her again. (Which is exactly what does happen, and frankly they don't like it much either).
Once you have it on your phone, there are a couple ways to add people.
Phone# and Scan.
Click the Contacts window.
Hit the + sign on the upper right.
To do the scan, you select scan QR code on your phone. She selects "me" on her phone and then clicks the header to pull up her code.
Then she / you accept the invitation. Since they all know how to do this it is really easy.
The reverse approach is you open wechat & select "me" (at the bottom). Touch the little QR code at the top and then she scans you into her phone.
The other approach is to use her phone number. (Go to contacts, hit the + then select QQ / Mobile Contacts and add her phone number. Then send a request for her to add you).
Last approach, if you have phone numbers already in your phone. Then, from the Contacts menu, select Recommended Friends. It will list all the phone numbers in your phone that have WeChat accounts.
Personally, the scan code system is the best, in terms of their comfort level, but as long as you have her phone number, that works just as well.
But I have found phone calling is tricky. It leaves a MUCH bigger paper trail, and it is really hard to make a phone call to a woman who does not speak English. Bob.
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[QUOTE=GeorgeW.Bush;2298424]How do you locate providers on there? I looked at briefly on my phone but did not see a search function.[/QUOTE]I consider WeChat more of a 'next level' tool. Most Chinese women use WeChat so once you are on friendly terms with them you can ask them if they use WeChat and maybe connect with them. This way you might be able to connect with their friends which may include other girls in the industry. I'm not sure if this also applies to Korean or SE Asian women. I don't use WeChat but I've seen friends use WeChat and it seems like it has features of facebook, twitter, instagram and skype video combined in a single app on a smartphone.
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[QUOTE=Rhinorot;2295400]Wow, what a ripoff, seriously.
Walked in at Sky 1 Spa at 1 pm today.
Paid $80 for one hour with table shower (this better be good).
Message is half ass. Really. Just lightly brush my back. Then she asked me to turn over and offered me $100 HJ, $120 CBJ, and $160 FS! Wow, you got to be kidding me girl. I counter offer (reasonable offer) and then she says "no, this is a going rate". LOL, right.
I turned down the offered and she stopped and finished the message less than 30 mins.
Wow. Wow.
Never again I'm coming back.[/QUOTE]Wow. Thats ridiculous. I overpaid for Sky 1 myself, but no where that high. I won't be returning there either.
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Sky 1
[QUOTE=Rhinorot;2295400]Wow, what a ripoff, seriously.
Walked in at Sky 1 Spa at 1 pm today.
Paid $80 for one hour with table shower (this better be good).
Message is half ass. Really. Just lightly brush my back. Then she asked me to turn over and offered me $100 HJ, $120 CBJ, and $160 FS! Wow, you got to be kidding me girl. I counter offer (reasonable offer) and then she says "no, this is a going rate". LOL, right.
I turned down the offered and she stopped and finished the message less than 30 mins.
Wow. Wow.
Never again I'm coming back.[/QUOTE]Who did you see? The new girls give terrible massages so I go for the 30 min, but the menu has always been standard price.
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Same thing
[QUOTE=GotMilf;2299600]Wow. Thats ridiculous. I overpaid for Sky 1 myself, but no where that high. I won't be returning there either.[/QUOTE]I got same type treatment I had 1 good visit where she took standard donation. Next one I hand her $100 she says not enough I snatch it back and say fine last time I come here. She says we have new girl she take it wait 15 minutes I said yeah right. Gave mamasan the stink eye on the way out.