Negative Escort Reviews

[QUOTE=ClayForNow; 1439377]Working my way towards 100 and my one year anniversary I had to go visit my first Valerie.

[url]http://valerie2007.rare-escort.com/[/url]

She was my first because of her rule 18 on her web site and I really enjoyed my time and saw her several times but things change. Hot body but has lost to much weight. She smelled like smoke and had her lap dog sit on a pillow on the bed. Use to be DFK but not this time and I always brush. Use to love trips around the world but no tripping. Use to be MSOG but she ran me out of there in 20 minutes. Oh well thanks for the memories but no thanks.[/QUOTE]I saw her about 18 months ago and she is always on my radar since it was sooo good. But she travels a lot and we haven't crossed paths since. I guess I'll be scratching her off the list, sad to see her go down this way.

[QUOTE=OriginalSin; 1445555]With that kind of paranoia, I will not be seeing this one.

As always YMMV.

OS.

[url]http://orlando.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/six-inch-heels-40dd-sweet-special-38/4167582[/url][/QUOTE]To a certain degree I can understand how a monger or random caller setting up a date and referencing this website may seem to an overly cautious provider as "set up" language. The direct association of a unknown John aside from being directly correlated to a website dedicated to the sharing of tips regarding prostetution. Well. I would get paranoid too unless of course I am calling the number of the advertising provider under a well published and known screen name.

[QUOTE=OriginalSin; 1445555]I decided to give this girl a try. I read that she was good. Called her to set up an appt, she sounded nice, we settled for a time and I wanted her to feel comfortable so I started to tell her that I am a Senior member here and then she got all weird and started saying "no, no, no, I don't want to know anything. Don't tell me anything else or you'll ruin your chance." I was thinking "huh?" Since I was not at my comp at the time, I did not know her rates, so I proceeded to ask about that and then she said "now you've gone and ruined it, sorry honey have a good day." WTF? Really?

WOW! Talk about super paranoid! I know she posts here, so if you're reading this Vivien, make sure you put it in your ad not to ask any questions so unsuspecting mongers with good intentions (like myself) will know!

With that kind of paranoia, I will not be seeing this one.

As always YMMV.

OS.

[url]http://orlando.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/six-inch-heels-40dd-sweet-special-38/4167582[/url][/QUOTE]I have read pretty much only good reviews on Vivien on here and and on other sites. She usually lists her donations at 100 HH and 140 HR, although she seems to be running a 80HH special. I have thought about calling her and never have as yet. I PM'd with a very relaible senior member in the past and he told me she was very good. Low volume and kind of shy, but a GFE lady.

OS, I know how you feel; same thing happened to me with Vivien once. My advice is to wait a couple of weeks and try again. Vivien is extremely cautious. Next time just ask for the appointment and say nothing else. She'll ask you what she wants to know. You are right, she is extremely paranoid. BUT, when you finally get to see her she is The Real Deal! Pictures are her and accurate. Tall, curvy, sensual, blue-eyed Brunette. Great GFE provider. Do yourself a favor and give Vivien another shot.

Montana.

[QUOTE=OriginalSin; 1445555]I decided to give this girl a try. I read that she was good. Called her to set up an appt, she sounded nice, we settled for a time and I wanted her to feel comfortable so I started to tell her that I am a Senior member here and then she got all weird and started saying "no, no, no, I don't want to know anything. Don't tell me anything else or you'll ruin your chance." I was thinking "huh?" Since I was not at my comp at the time, I did not know her rates, so I proceeded to ask about that and then she said "now you've gone and ruined it, sorry honey have a good day." WTF? Really?

WOW! Talk about super paranoid! I know she posts here, so if you're reading this Vivien, make sure you put it in your ad not to ask any questions so unsuspecting mongers with good intentions (like myself) will know!

With that kind of paranoia, I will not be seeing this one.

As always YMMV.

OS.

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[QUOTE=OriginalSin; 1445555]I decided to give this girl a try. I read that she was good. Called her to set up an appt, she sounded nice, we settled for a time and I wanted her to feel comfortable so I started to tell her that I am a Senior member here and then she got all weird and started saying "no, no, no, I don't want to know anything. Don't tell me anything else or you'll ruin your chance." I was thinking "huh?" Since I was not at my comp at the time, I did not know her rates, so I proceeded to ask about that and then she said "now you've gone and ruined it, sorry honey have a good day." WTF? Really?

WOW! Talk about super paranoid! I know she posts here, so if you're reading this Vivien, make sure you put it in your ad not to ask any questions so unsuspecting mongers with good intentions (like myself) will know! With that kind of paranoia, I will not be seeing this one.

As always YMMV.

OS.

[url]http://orlando.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/six-inch-heels-40dd-sweet-special-38/4167582[/url][/QUOTE]OS.

I been seeing Vivien for years and she's a keeper. Her ads have her rates and she has several positive reviews here on this site. I know I've done more than one. You can't fault her for being careful. You never know who's recording a call and I don't mind. I don't like asking about rates over the phone.

I had the opposite happen to me, I call a lady and asked if she was available. We set a time and I headed out to meet her. She called back and cancelled a few minutes later because she didn't feel "comfortable". I was disappointed but said ok maybe another time then hung up. 5 minutes later, she called back and asked me "if I was LEO?" I said no why do you ask?"Because you never asked about the rate." I said it was in one of her ads so why bring it up? She then said "come on over" and we had a great time. So it works both ways, you can say too much or too little, you never know how it's going to work out until you make the call.

You're right, YMMV.

OO

One thing you should know about Vivian, she is probably the smartest provider you will ever meet. If you click you will feel like you've known her forever. She is not paranoid she is smart and extremely knowledgeable about words and actions that could lead someone to get the wrong impression, about your rendezvous involving adults just looking for some comfort and conversation. If you meet her approach her as you would someone who you met and were attracted to and you attempted to seduce and nature took her course.

Talk to her as if you had just met her at a church function and you hit it off, you certainly wouldn't talk of this or any other boards or sex or compensation for sexual activities in that situation, so don't do it with VIV, you know before the call what your obligation is so don't even attempt to talk about it, don't flash anything or even bring it up. There will come a time when it's appropriate and you will know when that is as you will soon be leaving her company.

If your mature and polite you will have a warm and lovely conversation, if your rude and crude and try to show her how cool you are with the ladies you will have a very short conversation and you'll be leaving and you won't even realize how ignorant you have been.

If you don't "get" what I'm saying don't even bother to call her because you won't get past her magic ears, she is like that English teacher that won't let you fracture the language or let you impress her with your mastery of the language.

Paranoid, not at all. Intelligent, absolutely.

She will guide you, just let her!

VS

[QUOTE=VerySlowly; 1445923]One thing you should know about Vivian, she is probably the smartest provider you will ever meet. If you click you will feel like you've known her forever. She is not paranoid she is smart and extremely knowledgeable about words and actions that could lead someone to get the wrong impression, about your rendezvous involving adults just looking for some comfort and conversation. If you meet her approach her as you would someone who you met and were attracted to and you attempted to seduce and nature took her course.

Talk to her as if you had just met her at a church function and you hit it off, you certainly wouldn't talk of this or any other boards or sex or compensation for sexual activities in that situation, so don't do it with VIV, you know before the call what your obligation is so don't even attempt to talk about it, don't flash anything or even bring it up. There will come a time when it's appropriate and you will know when that is as you will soon be leaving her company.

If your mature and polite you will have a warm and lovely conversation, if your rude and crude and try to show her how cool you are with the ladies you will have a very short conversation and you'll be leaving and you won't even realize how ignorant you have been.

If you don't "get" what I'm saying don't even bother to call her because you won't get past her magic ears, she is like that English teacher that won't let you fracture the language or let you impress her with your mastery of the language.

Paranoid, not at all. Intelligent, absolutely.

She will guide you, just let her!

VS[/QUOTE]I had kind of the same thing happen to me when I first contacted her a few years ago. I was just saying all the red flag words tried again a few months later and man was it worth super sweet and gifted bbw have seen her a several times and will continue to so. If I were you OS I would try again.

I have seen her in the past and enjoyed her company. She's a smart woman and she's big but a very comfortable ride IMHO.

Look, you kind of blew it buddy and there's no reason a provider shouldn't be careful and cautious. I hear you saying you wanted her to be comfortable but there are ways to do that when you arrive that don't entail a phone conversation beforehand. If she was going to accept an appointment without references you had passed the first test and that's really all you needed. As I said, I enjoyed her company and although she's larger than I like, all the other requirements are there.

[QUOTE=OriginalSin; 1445555]I decided to give this girl a try. I read that she was good. Called her to set up an appt, she sounded nice, we settled for a time and I wanted her to feel comfortable so I started to tell her that I am a Senior member here and then she got all weird and started saying "no, no, no, I don't want to know anything. Don't tell me anything else or you'll ruin your chance." I was thinking "huh?" Since I was not at my comp at the time, I did not know her rates, so I proceeded to ask about that and then she said "now you've gone and ruined it, sorry honey have a good day." WTF? Really?

WOW! Talk about super paranoid! I know she posts here, so if you're reading this Vivien, make sure you put it in your ad not to ask any questions so unsuspecting mongers with good intentions (like myself) will know!

With that kind of paranoia, I will not be seeing this one.

As always YMMV.

OS.

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[QUOTE=Redbeard0504; 1446199]I have seen her in the past and enjoyed her company. She's a smart woman and she's big but a very comfortable ride IMHO.

Look, you kind of blew it buddy and there's no reason a provider shouldn't be careful and cautious. I hear you saying you wanted her to be comfortable but there are ways to do that when you arrive that don't entail a phone conversation beforehand. If she was going to accept an appointment without references you had passed the first test and that's really all you needed. As I said, I enjoyed her company and although she's larger than I like, all the other requirements are there.[/QUOTE]I blew it because I did not know her rules. Not because I did anything wrong. It's not uncommon to have a small convo on the ph. As a matter of fact, I prefer to have a small convo over the ph, so I can feel the person out and determine if she is worth the trip. If she does not want to asnwer questions or have a convo on the ph, she should say so in her ad. Pretty simple.

Glad you had a good time with her, but if she's that paranoid, I'll pass!

OS

I want to thank all the SM's word of advice on this (vivien) matter. I'll take into consideration all of your advice. Most of you (not all) , I take very seriously, because you've shown nothing but a very mature approach to your reports and actions in this forum, whether it be to give advice, or in a debate, or even just reporting, I've learned alot from most of you. And some of you have helped me along the way and I TRULY appreciate that. You know who you are, you're the ones I PM often. So thank you guys!

I just want to remind some of you (especially the newbies) what this forum is about. This is a forum to exchange info! Info that is supposed to help all of us in this very risky hobby. Sometimes we debate and sometimes we argue, but for the most part, we all get along pretty well. We don't always agree on everything and that's ok, it happens, no biggie, don't take anything here personal! We all know I've gotten into some disagreements in here, some were heated and some were good natured. Whichever the case, I hold no grudges. Nobody should! We're all supposed to be grown men in here, right? Point is, we all have our opinions and we're all supposed to share them, preferably with diplomacy. Unfortunately, some of us here are still going through puberty. With that being said, I welcome all opinions wholeheartedly, whether or not I agree with it, always have and always will. I will NEVER block anyone here because you didn't agree with me or because we got into a disagreement. I'll take my "punches" like a man.

Again, thank you to all the SM's that helped me along the way. If you ever need anything from me, just ask and I'll do whatever I can to help.

Be Safe!

OS

[QUOTE=OriginalSin; 1446304]I blew it because I did not know her rules. Not because I did anything wrong. It's not uncommon to have a small convo on the ph. As a matter of fact, I prefer to have a small convo over the ph, so I can feel the person out and determine if she is worth the trip. If she does not want to asnwer questions or have a convo on the ph, she should say so in her ad. Pretty simple.

Glad you had a good time with her, but if she's that paranoid, I'll pass!

OS[/QUOTE]If you want to see were a small convo can lead, maybe so you could feel a person out, just go to the latest arrests in Osceola county this week. Considering the number of photos it has to be one of the bigger busts this area has had in a while. Besides showing up these people were ONLY arrested for something they said, no matter how innocuous they thought it was at the time. Welcome to America, the land of the free.

The first conversation I have with a first meet provider is when they are on there knees trying to talk around something in their mouth. Unintelligible but so communicative.

Not paranoid, just cautious.

Johnny A

[QUOTE=John Applehead; 1446399]If you want to see were a small convo can lead, maybe so you could feel a person out, just go to the latest arrests in Osceola county this week. Considering the number of photos it has to be one of the bigger busts this area has had in a while. Besides showing up these people were ONLY arrested for something they said, no matter how innocuous they thought it was at the time. Welcome to America, the land of the free.

The first conversation I have with a first meet provider is when they are on there knees trying to talk around something in their mouth. Unintelligible but so communicative.

Not paranoid, just cautious.

Johnny A[/QUOTE]That's funny, I'm still sitting nice and pretty at home. LOL! Those fools walked into the trap. Not buying into the idea that a small convo got them there. There's no way to know how or what happened in each circumstance. If they would've been using their "big head" instead of the small one, they would still be good to go. Unfortunately for them, they let their guard down.

Having small convo's has helped me to "screen" out trouble on many occasions. And based on some of the reports I've read in the past, even most of the other mongers on here as well, just sayin. But to each their own. I'm going to continue to do what works for me.

As always, Be Safe!

OS

One of the first rules of the game when talking to a provider on the phone is to just talk to them as you would any other woman on the phone. Break the ice, laugh a little and both of you will be at ease.

You seem to think differently, so be it. I know from your locked down attitude, that when people try to open your mind and help you with a stumbling block that you're not ViV's kind of friend, my suggestion is to keep on doing what you're doing and you will keep on getting what you get. If your happy with that then keep on truck-in', far be it for us to try and educate you.

VS

[QUOTE=John Applehead; 1446399]If you want to see were a small convo can lead, maybe so you could feel a person out, just go to the latest arrests in Osceola county this week. Considering the number of photos it has to be one of the bigger busts this area has had in a while. Besides showing up these people were ONLY arrested for something they said, no matter how innocuous they thought it was at the time. Welcome to America, the land of the free.

The first conversation I have with a first meet provider is when they are on there knees trying to talk around something in their mouth. Unintelligible but so communicative.

Not paranoid, just cautious.

Johnny A[/QUOTE]Rule of thumb.

If something doesn't feel right with walking into a first meet it will already be to damn late to save your ass!

They, LEO know damn well your not there to have milk and fucking cookie with the gal LOL.

And even if you walked into a sting and did not say one fucking word to her you are not walking out of there and going home.

You will be going to jail just for showing up at a sting, even if the decoy cracks open the door to give you a peek inside and U-turn and try to walk away.

No need to be paranoid, just follow your gut feelings at all times.

Most mongers try and use small convo to see what can be had before they arrive at a gals incall.

Asking a provider stupid shit over the phone like, do you do BBBJ, CIM, ANAL, ect ect is all inappropriate shit over the phone.

Remember, if your calling a hottie for the first time and she happens to be a LE DECOY the conversation will be recorded.

And everything you say can and will be used against you in a court of law.

Follow your gut feeling and stay free to play another day!

Happy Hunting and stay safe out there! OP

[QUOTE=CamelToeLover; 1442148]If there's ever a clear case of YMMV with a Provider, or Providers, this is most definitely one example! A well-respected SM, OldPlumber, gives rave reviews not only for Alexis, but for the other two Providers with her, as well, and Mojoworks, as well as, SC1975, clearly have the opposite experiences. That just goes to show you that Providers are just as apt to choose who they will give great service to, depending on their particular moods and attractions. Just because a SM had a fantastic experience with a Provider, doesn't necessarily mean another Monger will have the same experience.

CTL[/QUOTE]The reason I was insisting for a pic was because the pics she posted did not match eachother. Why is her ass more round on this pic and not on the other. Why does her bust size look smaller then the other pic? Her description she gave over the phone didn't match from what I was seeing in the ad. I just wanted to see what I'm really getting when and if I see her.