Streetwalker Reports

[QUOTE=Bus Nut]Ricman Tan, the lucky man!

Seriously, I has a similar incident in Oceanside about 18 years ago. Picked up a really cute gal in Oceanside, she was moving, though, not at a bus stop. She got in the car and did the LE check. I drove her to a liquor store and then to an apartment in the valley area.

This was back when mobile phones were larger, I had a large transportable unit in my car. The girl used it to call her friend where we were headed.

We had to wait in the parking lot until her friend left the apartment. In the meantime, this crazy chick hikes up her skirt, squats next to the car and took a whiz. Three cop cars pulled up seconds later.

The cops pulled me out, put cuffs on me, and started searching the car. One cop told me "if we find drugs on your girl you are going to jail" and shoved me in the back of a cruiser.

They didn't find anything, and without a single word about 45 minutes later they rudely pulled me out of the cruiser, took the cuffs off and shoved me onto the hood of my car. I was told "Don't ever be picking up a girl in this town again or you will be doing hard time!" and drove away. My erstwhile date was heading into the apartment complex with her beer (which, BTW, was NOT open) and the cops roared off.

Seems they followed me all the way into the valley. Except for the one cruiser, none of the cars looked even like your usual UC unit.

The back seat has been removed, everything in the car was just piled on the floor, and my mobile phone had it's handset cord cut into about 10 pieces. I replaced the cord and moved on, but I was scared shitless for a while.

Didn't stop me from mongering, but it did make me a hell of a lot more aware of what was going on around me.

Bus Nut[/QUOTE]

Interesting story Bus Nut. This is why I'm paranoid about picking up SW and prefer AMPS instead. I wonder if any patrons have ever gotten busted at an AMP (at least mongers here in the forum)?

Joe

After work I had to stop by Target to pick up something. ~5:30pm 1 thicker LSW strolling on east side of Harbor near Chapman. Olive strapless top w/ jeans chomping on a popsicle. quotes .4/.8 covered. Further north by Katella was a LSW Mimi? Red top w/ jeans. Pretty cute ~20yrs old from Riverside. Quotes .5/$ covered.

[QUOTE=Joe Coodidge]Interesting story Bus Nut. This is why I'm paranoid about picking up SW and prefer AMPS instead. I wonder if any patrons have ever gotten busted at an AMP (at least mongers here in the forum)?

Joe[/QUOTE]I agree with you Joe. I actually had an experiance where some nut who was jacking off next to my car when I pick up a SW and went to a parking lot near Harbor. The thing about AMP is that if LE catches you in them you are not in public. You are in a closed room. And if I understand the law right you have to be in public or in public view to get in trouble. And if you stick to your guns and tell them that you only paid for a massage there is no way to prove you did anything else. I have talked to friends who have been inside AMP when LE came and all that happen was they took their name. They threaten to call home but it never happen.

Bottom line with SW's. Like AMP I don't talk about money or services right away. If a SW doesnt get in my car or tries to talk money while outside my car I'm gone. I little prevention like watching her a while goes a long way.

Be Safe

Went North on Harbor from the 405 to the 5 on my way home from a meeting in South Coast. It was about 9PM or so.

ZIP, ZILCH, NADA

[QUOTE=Hizark21]From your post I believe the cops let you go because you did not actually solicit the prostitute. Since you did not accept her offer the act of soclitation did not occur. The good thing is that this is a indication that the cops are not using the criminal intent to solicit law.

But it just goes to show that it's always best to let the SW get in the car before discussing business.[/QUOTE]

Yeah, but the cops *are* the ones making the proposition, which they're not supposed to do if memory serves. That qualifies as entrapment, because you can't prove you were going to offer money at that point. You probably played it just slightly naive enough to get away with it.

Glad to hear you're alright though man!

I haven't had any luck lately as tonight it was yet another night of empty streets. I did see about 3 SW's between 11 & 1 a.m., but they all looked fat and crack ridden. What the hell happened to our beloved HB?

I hear LBB is poppin' these days, but as a white guy cruisin' in Compton at 1:00 a.m., I'm sure to stick out like a sore thumb. No thanks!

My last few trips down Harbor I have not seen a single thing. With the nice weather I thought there would be some activity. I don't know if you guys want to take a drive, but yesterday I was up in Pasadena and Colorado Blvd. had alot of action.

Hey Ricman, I know what that's like. I had a temporary lapse of judgement that damn near got me arrested. Four years ago, I picked up a hot blonde girl on Harbor and Chapman. She was short and petite with huge tits. So I'm so excited, I decided to skip my usual routine of driving a decent distance away from Harbor to do the deed, and pulled into the parking lot behind one of those big hotels on that corner. We parked between a van and a sedan with really really dark tinted windows. She went down on me, and right when I finished and she lifted her head up, we hear a door from the sedan slam shut and see a cop (who was hiding in the back seat of his car)march over to the passenger side. The girl yells to me "Go! Let's go get outta here!!!" So like an idiot, I started the car up but the cop screams "shut that car off! NOW!!" I sheepishly turn the car off, and he opens the passenger door and pulls the girl out. As soon as he sees her, he kinda softens up and says "hey ******, what are you doing here? I told you to get off these streets." He takes her and my drivers license back to his car. After a few minutes, he comes back, throws the license to me and says, "if I ever see you here again, you're going to jail." I started the car up and quickly got out of there.

A week later, I run into the girl again. She told me that after I drove away, he let her go. The reason he and another cop were hiding out in the parking lot was because they were responding to complaints about drug deals being made there. She said she knew the cop because he had stopped her twice before, but didn't arrest her; he would just yell at her and then let her leave. I wonder if maybe he was one of her regulars, but I didn't bother to ask her. So that was the closest I've ever been to getting arrested. Unbelievable how I got a BJ from a SW while a cop was sitting right next to us and watching the whole time. I guess the John Gods were looking out for me that night!

This is one reason why I avoid businesses. There is a greater likelihood that someone else will see you.

The Flatline
The cops routinely make a proposition during stings. This does not qualify as entrapment.

HB 10:00 p.m. Sat Night.

Saw one SW getting harassed by a GG motorcycle cop just north of GG Blvd. My cruise started at the 22 and went to 1st, before flippin' a U. Went down to Orangewood, and saw nothing other than what was described above.

Got on the 22 and headed over to LBB. Unfortunately, not much action there either, other than a few junkies around 11:00 p.m. I finally headed over to Fig where I found a gem. Details in the LA section.

[QUOTE=Hizark21]This is one reason why I avoid businesses. There is a greater likelihood that someone else will see you.

The Flatline
The cops routinely make a proposition during stings. This does not qualify as entrapment.[/QUOTE]

Out of curiosity, then what would qualify as entrapment then?

Or is it one of those legendary qualifiers that doesn't really exist any more?

I just play it paranoid. If anything feels out of place I drive on. I'd rather just look than get busted.

([url]http://www.sdcitybeat.com/article.php?id=658[/url] )

"The entrapment defense is only available to someone charged with a crime when the crime was not contemplated by the defendant but rather planned and induced by police officers, and the defendant’s participation in the crime was the result of persuasion or fraud by the police, noted attorney Tabash.

When assessing whether or not entrapment exists, one need only to ask this question: was the conduct of the law enforcement agent likely to induce a normally law-abiding person to commit the offense?

In that light, prostitution is exempt from entrapment defense.

“Entrapment would not be available as a defense if someone were selling illegal drugs and sold drugs to an undercover police officer,” Tabash explained, “because the defendant was already predisposed to selling drugs and would have sold them to anyone who happened to come along.
Entrapment

“However, if the defendant were not inclined to sell illegal drugs and an undercover cop pressured the person day and night over a period of six months to start selling, and the defendant succumbed to the pressure; then, the defense of entrapment would be available, because an otherwise innocent person engaged in the unlawful activity only as a result of heavy pressure from a law enforcement official.” "

If you suspect a SW is a decoy tell her to get in the car first and discuss things after you have driven off and done the check.

If you suspect the cops are conducting a sting hang out in the area and watch. Sometimes if I am still uncertain I will get out and walk around. The advantage here is that you can observe things from all angles and see if a cop is hiding. Even if you don't see any cops around don't let this fool you. The stings have become more sophisticated and the cops hide very carefully. Quite often you will not see any cops in back of the building. A few years the back the cops were conducting a sting and there was no cop cars around. The decoys would tell the poor guy to meet him in back and the cop would hide in a unmarked vehicle.

Also don't let a dry spell fool you into thinking that the heat is off..Quite often the cops will conduct stings when there little or no action.

Good solid advice Hizark

Haven't heard of the entrapment defense working for over 20 years

If a monger tried to utter "entrapment" expect the cops to counter with

1] Harbor Blvd, what an unusual street you picked to get trapped
Harbor = main SW activity
Beach, First Street, Lincoln = 2nd tier SW locales
2] LE may assert you were seen circling the area (cruising)
3] If you ever have been police logged as having been stopped in the area and warned not to slow car down and talk to probable SW, you really are screwed
4] Why did you stop and talk to a decoy pedestrian? She did not wave to you and beg assistance.
5] If it's late at night and you're stopping for pedestrians ... just the time and desertedness makes you look guilty

When I cruised (converted to AMPs long ago) my typical question when first stopping for a hooker was "Looking for some company?". It conveyed that I was offering more than taxi cab services but, if she is microphoned up, didn't say anything incriminating (IMHO).

And of course, if she answers a question with a question ...RUN !

The couple of times I suspected I was talking to a decoy I just uttered "I'm sorry, I thought you were someone that I knew. So sorry that I bothered you" and left.

With that on the LE microphone what else could she say then "Get outta here!"

Good luck out there guys.

You are pursuing something filled with risks, rewarded by slim pickings.

Consider the monger alternatives.

Picking up SW's is still safe so long as you take the proper precautions. LA county is a bit more risky due the "civil intent to solicit law". Bu just remember to use the word "date". The Costa Mesa cops used this as the basis for "criminal intent to solicit" last year.