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Hey CL,
Thanks for the long and very detailed explanation of your method. I like how you added your personal experience tips that are not mentioned on the previous write up a few pages ago. I appreciate you mentioning that SHE controls the action in your write-up. That is what I was trying to convey, but didn't say it to well.

The "get her drunk" was "tongue in cheek" so to speak. I know that that wouldn't go well. I wouldn't do that to anyone!

Today, she allowed a lube (the wrong kind) and was even open minded to try the small dildo (the wrong kind). We did our normal playing around to get her comfortable, then we tried the backdoor a little. I could tell immediately that she was just saying that she was interested in trying since her ass cheeks were telling a very different story by being slammed closed, similar to pursed lips. So it was a no-go from the get-go. I'm going to drop the issue with her. As you mentioned having respect for someone that you care about. It felt incredible once, for about five very slow and short strokes. Not worth losing her respect for me by pushing for something that she isn't open to doing.

I guess I'll stick with my new GF on the side that likes anal already for my kicks. She must be freak since once it was in, she told me to start pumping her good.

Hey Fbtom,

You're a decent guy ( I see you got some good praise from CJ) so I should apologize. I got writing that reply and slipped into "swinger's mentality" gear - where one really finds out about one's competition - and started writing in that frame of mind. Sorry if that made it seem like the whole thing was about you - it wasn't, more of a very generalized mind dump from experience and the feed back on SMs I've heard.

One thing I could add - there is a numbing gel one can buy in sex shops that one can use for anal sex. Only draw back is that if one forgets to use a cover, it becomes more of a virtual experience! LOL!

[url]http://www.tastefultreasures.com/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=25&products_id=811[/url]

Hang in there with that desire - ought to be some way to keep the topic out there, and perhaps you'll get a birthday surprise?

Oh, and I just remembered - That crazy shop in SF, Good Vibrations, has a bunch of books on various topics.

Here is there anal sex page:

[url]http://www.goodvibes.com/content.jhtml?id=2251[/url]

Here is a reference text:

[url]http://www.goodvibes.com/display_product.jhtml?id=6-3-AA-BE10[/url]

These texts are usually pretty well written and know who is the target audience (women) - they come shipped in a plain brown wrapper too!

The buy of that short book on the G-Spot 11 years ago was definitely money well spent!


[QUOTE=Fbtom] Not worth losing her respect for me by pushing for something that she isn't open to doing.

I guess I'll stick with my new GF on the side that likes anal already for my kicks. She must be freak since once it was in, she told me to start pumping her good.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Cephlapod Love]Hey Fbtom,

You're a decent guy ( I see you got some good praise from CJ) so I should apologize. I got writing that reply and slipped into "swinger's mentality" gear - where one really finds out about one's competition - and started writing in that frame of mind. Sorry if that made it seem like the whole thing was about you - it wasn't, more of a very generalized mind dump from experience and the feed back on SMs I've heard.
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No problem, no apology required, we're good. I read your post with the overall tone of your being helpful in general, and not "aimed" at me. Thanks also for the additional tips and sources for info. I'm sure these posts will help others as well.

Damn, my b-day just past recently, LOL, perhaps our anniversary? One can hope!

This seems like a very important thing to consider with anal toys from the link that C.L. posted!!

[i][b]If your toy doesn’t have a base, don’t insert it into the anus![/b] Not even a little bit. It’s easier to lose a toy than you think, especially since some anal muscles suck in during orgasm. This can mean a trip to the emergency room, so avoid the risk and use an anal-safe toy.[/i]

Don't use a numbing gel! Pain serves a purpose. If you're doing it right, any pain she experiences will be mild & brief, giving way to pleasure. Prolonged or intense pain is her cue that something isn't right - maybe she's tearing or something, & numbing gel might prevent her from realizing it before it's too late.

One other thing to remember - even anal freaks sometime have "off" days when the little brown hole won't open up like usual.

PS - ditto to the "never let her see the residue" comment (aka santorum). One of my greek-freaks caught a glimpse of my santorum- covered condom in her trash can, and was, indeed, weirded out by it.

[QUOTE=Ren Man]...ditto to the "never let her see the residue" comment (aka santorum). One of my greek-freaks caught a glimpse of my santorum- covered condom in her trash can, and was, indeed, weirded out by it.[/QUOTE]

"Greek-freak", I like that, LOL! Hiding the dirty seems like common sense. My first time with the freaky GF, I was in the bathroom ASAP to flush the condom down since there were a few dingle berries clinging to it. Being experienced, this probably wouldn't surprise her. I didn't want to risk possible embarrassment with her and not letting me go there again. BTW, she was very clean beforehand.

A few mistakes I made were on the withdrawal. The condom ring slipped out of my hand. Her anus held onto and squeezed the condom, ejecting a gush of my own cum all over my hand. Good thing that I was a fast thinker or she'd have a very messy bed to contend with. I don't know if I were rude or not, but I grabbed the condom and quickly pulled it out of her to dispose of it. Kind of snapped like a rubber band; towards me, not her. Wasn't even thinking of how that may of felt to her. She didn't say anything, so I didn't mention it either.

Agree about lube, use lots, but not numbing and make "Santorum" disappear...

This must be the most amazing info in one single post!

Cephlapod Love, your expertise is highly appreciated.

[QUOTE=Cephlapod Love]While no expert on the subject like those on this thread, I'll share some experience....of course YMMV.

In my experience most women do not like anal because of a bad experience in the past. I think most guys wanna shove it in and hammer away: no/little lube and no sensitivity to the potential pain, just get theirs and the heck with the B*tch. An asshole isn't a pussy and one can't pound it like one unless the girl is a freak (experienced) or gets used to it.

I have popped a number of anal cherries and reopened several that were previously closed. I think the key to "getting in there" with a girlfriend is TRUST! When I breech the subject, I make it clear that it is something I really like, it provides me nice pleasure [gotta appeal to the nurturing/giving side] - BUT - that I do not want to hurt her in anyway. I tell her and I mean it ---> if it hurts or you want to stop at any time - I will stop - the key is I mean it and I do stop. I have found that if the lady trusts me that goes a long way.

I always start the process with something else - I like a lady to be fully relaxed when starting down that road. [None of this tear off the clothes and jam it in.] So I spend a bunch of time pleasuring her with oral, her favorite positions, etc. Like her to have a couple of O's beforehand and be fully relaxed. I don’t think getting a lady drunk is the answer – yeah sure that might loosen her up and you’ll get it in, but the next morning when she’s sore, she’ll remember and your an@l adventures will be over. [That is unless one plan on getting her drunk each time – not something I’d do with someone I respected.]

To get going one needs to start with some stroking and caressing outside while playing with other erogenous zones. It pays to be prepared, to have lube/toys/condoms/towels at hand so things can progress smoothly with little interruption - time to think.

Now a word on lube - lube is everything! Forget about Astroglide, KY, or anything one can buy at Rite Aid, CVS, Walgreen’s. I have tried them all and they all dry out, get sticky and have to be reapplied at the wrong time causing an interruption. I like a product called "Wet." Head into a decent sex shop [I'm thinking about one like The Birds & Bees in Concordville, PA not a porno-book store] and ask specifically about a good anal lube and mention the drying out issue. The better lubes aren't all gloppy and messy - and that goo at the end of things can be just another irritation for her to have to deal with or a cause to freak out.

Then start slow, manually exploring and teasing the outside. After a bit (5 minutes?) gently ease a small finger in as you stimulate other areas. She has to relax and not be tense to get that sucker open. Check in with her on how it feels, is she OK, does she wanna stop (you gotta mean it!). Once inside, STOP! Let her adjust to the new feeling. [Can’t tell from your description how you proceeded, but once inside she needs to adjust to the feeling, before starting to stroke.] I think its the initial stretching is the most scary and potentially painful. Once she is relaxed to go forward, check in with her again - how does it feel? Is she OK? Can you continue?

Again, I think guys think that like a pu$$y, once they are *in* it is OK to got to it and pile drive away. Once in, she needs to adjust and that gives you time to continue to play with her cl*t or stimulate her other ways. She needs to get over the initial shock and get some comfort so she can feel that this is pleasurable to her too.

I know this is hard for guys as they wanna "hurry up and get there" but the slow pace will bring rewards in the long run. Next your job is to increase the size going in. Add a finger or switch to a slightly larger toy. [If you are going to use your fingers – make sure your nails are clipped off, close. You wouldn’t want razor blazes shoved up your @rse, she doesn’t either.] You are trying to work her up, open up that sphincter to a diameter that is close to your size by SLOWLY stretching that thing open. Go too fast and it can hurt or be scary - once she tenses up and clamps down, you're back to square one. Again, anytime you change things or hear a moan, unless you can see her face, CHECK IN AGAIN. Remember a moan of pain sounds the same as one of pleasure to the little head. You gotta be willing to make sure she's comfortable and trusts you.

I can't tell you how many times I have stopped to check in - mid a good stroke - when THAT groan didn't quite sound right: are you OK, does it hurt? Wanna stop? Let me tell you - that pays dividends in the long run!

So working your way up in size is important. The transitions are important too. You can't be fumbling around with lube, looking for the next sized toy or whatever - and allowing that ring to go back to its normal, clamped shut state (at least not for very long) or you are back to step one. I like to start manually, use a small toy next and then graduate to a tapered gel toy. Those hard plastic toys are terrible for this - think about it - would you want a hard pipe jammed up your keister? She doesn't either. So use a tapered gel or nu-skin toy, use it to stroke, wiggle, rotate, whatever, and SLOWLY increase the diameter she gets. Slowly work the toy in up to your size. Don't forget to listen to the moans and check in? You OK? Wanna stop?

Now a word on SLOWLY - this process might take 15+ minutes. If you are prepared for the journey, you might be surprised that it goes quicker. But if one is stimulating her, working the toy and checking in frequently and periodically stopping as needed - you'll build the trust and warm up the engine for a good time. Rush things, get in a hurry and cause pain or discomfort and you’ll get cut off. Taking your time is a small investment for future rewards.

So say you've done all of that and she's now got the toy inside in a size that matches you. Now you are ready for the big transition. Problem here is that once the toy comes out that little ring starts to close again. Critical here is this transition. You gotta be slow again, but not too slow: line it up, press on the target, and start to apply more pressure, STOP, check in with her and then apply some more pressure, stop, check in and if you get the green light, apply more pressure, Once you get that initial "pop" that lets more than an inch or two inside- STOP! Wait! Check in with her - you OK? does it hurt? wanna stop? You can expect to wait a minute or two as she adjusts, gets over the initial shock, etc. Once she is comfortable and gives the green light, SLOWLY start to move. Give it a few shallow/short strokes and check in again. Don't be afraid to stop if you think it is uncomfortable, it takes a woman a few minutes to adjust to it, check her senses and feelings and decide its OK - ALWAYS be willing to pull out and quit if she freaks or it hurts. That willingness translates to trust – and well-built trust will get you where you wanna go. Eventually a comfort level will be reached and probably pleasure too and you can get a good rhythm going. First few times be gentle and slow - no hard pounding, you wanna work her up to that over several sessions. Once she feels safe, and figures out it can feel as good as vagina penetration, she'll be as freaky as she normally is.

Now a word on position. I know most guys wanna hit it doggie style - nothing more exciting than grabbing those hips and pounding away. However, in my experience, anal doggie is an advanced position. Not sure what it is, but in my experience, starting with doggie can be more painful to a newbie. I have found that missionary or cowgirl are a good start. [Everyone is different so you might have to stop and restart, or take several sessions to figure out what is the easiest starting position for her.]

If you do the missionary, She has to be able to pull her legs back so her knees are near her chest or head in order to get the angles right. [you may need to be propped up on your arms, not kneeling] If she can't get so positioned then there's a chance the right angle won't be reached. Particularly large women and some "thick" sisters seem to have a problem getting so positioned. I also like these positions as you are face to face with the lady and you can see her, she can see you. Thus when you are starting off, you can watch her reactions - again, remember the little head sees every moan, wince or facial contortion as pleasure when the line between pleasure and pain is thin. If you are face to face and check in with her frequently (you OK? does it hurt? wanna stop?) She can see if you are truly concerned and caring for her well-being or just BS-ing to get what you want. Remember, you are laying a foundation; a key part of such is trust, in order to build better pleasures down the road.

An additional advantage to cowgirl, if you can get her to start like that, is she controls the action - she'll make sure she goes at a pace to her liking, she will stop when it gets uncomfortable, she will see the pleasure she's giving you. This is a great way to break her in - I used it with the ex's first time. She got comfortable and soon loved it. But I suspect it isn't for everyone.

Now once it is over, you've nutted or stopped because she's uncomfortable there is another key bit of advice. Get it out and get it wrapped in a towel or tissue BEFORE she sees or smells it! If you want her to do this again NEVER let her see your tool post anal. Oh sure you can and should snuggle or cuddle afterwards if that is what you two do, but once you pop out hide it clean it. Even if you use a wrapper, get it out, get it off, dispose of the wrapper discretely away from her and scrub up your playground.

I don't know what it is about women, but seeing that stuff, smelling it or even seeing a slight brown stain is going to freak her out. Women have been taught that that stuff is gross and they react badly - even though the stuff, since it came from her, can't hurt her.

Also you gotta be prepared for what YOU see when you withdrawal your tool! If you can't take the fact that it might be discolored or even have specs of Sh*t on it then ya got no business playing up there. Let me tell you, unless she cleans ahead of time (i.e. enema) there is a good chance you are gunna get sh*t on your d*ck. NEVER, EVER Make any comment about what you see on your tool! Just quietly and discretely clean it up! You make a comment about stuff on your d*ck and there's a good chance she's gunna freak and lessen your chances of a repeat.

I've had experienced girls go into a tizzy when they saw just a small brown stain, even though I wasn't reacting and even though I told them it was no big deal. I usually excuse myself and get her a warm washcloth and towel (dark colored so she’s less likely to see any discoloration). I never offer babywipes since they'll show the stains and lead to the "gross out" factor. Then I go clean myself up them come back for additional snuggling, praising her for such fun, telling her how much pleasure she gave me and listening to her as to what she liked and didn't like.

Follow these steps and I think your experiences will improve. All FWIW, imho.

Good luck![/QUOTE]

I had a [url=http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=979811&postcount=685]great day[/url], with deep anal in the doggy position!

It was awesome! Entered her slowly, but without any lube or prep, just a little spit. This is how she likes it. A slight pop and then slowly building up some rythum and depth. Then we were off to the races as it were. She was pounding back at me with gusto! She came twice before we ended this action.

Funny, when my dick came out, the condom was covered on the end. She saw it immediately and said while running to the bathroom, slightly embarrased, "We're done with that". Nothing was on me, so it was no biggie.

She washed up quickly and then we continued in mish to the finish.

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What is the problem gentlemen? All of you guys suddently swear off anal? Hard to believe NOBODY is interested in the Hersey Highway anymore.

[QUOTE=World Wise]What is the problem gentlemen? All of you guys suddently swear off anal? Hard to believe NOBODY is interested in the Hersey Highway anymore.[/QUOTE]
We are doing it. Just not posting it on the board. Keeping it for our selves til we get tired of it and move on to another. Got a date today with one that likes it anal. Will post it. No camera to take pictures. If did don't have the equipment to do it. Spend my money on hoes.
Erica is about 170#'s she likes it in the butt. Got her twice last week. Damn can she lick balls.
Uncle Booty
BC

[QUOTE=World Wise]What is the problem gentlemen? All of you guys suddently swear off anal? Hard to believe NOBODY is interested in the Hersey Highway anymore.[/QUOTE]

It's been dry for me lately - my usuals are all out of the game for now and I haven't had the time/energy/patience to do the CLCE thing for a few weeks. I'll come around soon though, and be back to tell you gents all about it!

[QUOTE=Ren Man]It's been dry for me lately - my usuals are all out of the game for now and I haven't had the time/energy/patience to do the CLCE thing for a few weeks. I'll come around soon though, and be back to tell you gents all about it![/QUOTE]What does CLCE means?