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Nope. I am into all kind of gals: Hispanic, Black, White and Asian.
Here was overall experience:
- Hispanic pots. Most of them are UTRs or asking for gas money before even meeting.
- I had several black gals, but just no passion on bed.
- Several of my previous SBs (with them for at least several mths) are all either white or mixed.
[QUOTE=HollywoodGuy;2311836]So you only date white and asian girls?[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=DogRice;2311947]Nope. I am into all kind of gals: Hispanic, Black, White and Asian.
Here was overall experience:
- Hispanic pots. Most of them are UTRs or asking for gas money before even meeting.
- I had several black gals, but just no passion on bed.
- Several of my previous SBs (with them for at least several mths) are all either white or mixed.[/QUOTE]A little surprised to hear this. Forgetting about getting bargain basement prices. There are numerous black and mixed hotties for $$. Many many many. I don't hit up white girls and don't seem to connect too well with hisp (to me they mostly just act white, LOL). I like asian girls but there arent too many on the sd site. Met very of them few over the years.
I can see why the asian addicted cruise the AMP's.
Thanks!! I tried for 2 months in the beginning of 2014 and had been offering $. 5 per date on most new pots on SDFM, but no luck. Either showing Pros attitude (like asking how long per date) or asking for more than $. 5. I tried to keep $. 5 as my starting point since I need to pay for FC. If going up to $$ + FC fee, I am looking at $$. 5 range. I can get a hot hassle-free escort between $$. 6 and $$ I do admit that non-Pro SB is awesome, but the time & financial trade off do not make sense for me.
Again, this is my own experience in San Diego.
[QUOTE=HollywoodGuy;2311959]A little surprised to hear this. Forgetting about getting bargain basement prices. There are numerous black and mixed hotties for $$. Many many many. I don't hit up white girls and don't seem to connect too well with hisp (to me they mostly just act white, LOL). I like asian girls but there arent too many on the sd site. Met very of them few over the years.
I can see why the asian addicted cruise the AMP's.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=DogRice;2312286]Thanks!! I tried for 2 months in the beginning of 2014 and had been offering $. 5 per date on most new pots on SDFM, but no luck. Either showing Pros attitude (like asking how long per date) or asking for more than $. 5. I tried to keep $. 5 as my starting point since I need to pay for FC. If going up to $$ + FC fee, I am looking at $$. 5 range. I can get a hot hassle-free escort between $$. 6 and $$ I do admit that non-Pro SB is awesome, but the time & financial trade off do not make sense for me.
Again, this is my own experience in San Diego.[/QUOTE]I know san diego is a tougher market but I am sure there are girls for $ or $. 5 for sure a date. And some will be pros or utr but you say you are dating them already. I know when just for the fuck of it I messaged some girls down there I was getting responses.
[QUOTE=OneOfTheBest;2313624]you just got real lucky finding young nave lower echelon girls who don't know any better.[/QUOTE]You hit the nail right on the head. I spend everyday looking for these girls. They are the best all around. I love being the very first guy ever to stick cash in a girls hand. My new ATF is a guaranteed NP first timer. It's one of the main reasons I love fucking her. Plus I love virgin role play. But since its not likely I,ll get one in real life, having them be a virgin to getting paid is the next best thing.
They are only lower echelon in the context of getting paid. Not in looks, skills or their willingness to please their daddy. I know its a needle in a haystack but its like any form of collecting (and we are collectors), the thrill of discovery and getting something no one else has.
But I have traded away a little in the looks dept here and there to get a newbie with the right attitude that wants and needs proper training. But not always. And I rarely lower my standards in the spinner dept.
[QUOTE=OneOfTheBest;2313624]Sounds like both sides have unrealistic expectations. Some girls have inflated ideas of "arrangements" and some guys want to pay the same amount they pay for hookers for an unlimited amount of time. So many sites are tailored to what anyone is looking for, why mix them. Fake sugar daddies getting frustrated by pros on these sites yet the approach is no different than a john wanting a hooker. Paying a bill does not qualify anyone a sugardaddy, you just got real lucky finding young nave lower echelon girls who don't know any better.[/QUOTE]Yeah, I'm too young to be a sugar daddy.
I can get the experience for free or the same price as dating, with far less headaches. I did the NP thing for a year which probably isn't comparable. The girls and women back then hadn't really thought about the next level of doing it as a full time SB gig. From reading the board, it appears that the Sugar Baby idea is on BLAST by EVERYWHERE including regular media. A couple years ago, and before that, one could easily find women of different echelons in need of help. For me, a couple $60 or $100 dates turned into FWBs and having hours of sex. Actually, it was pretty great. At the time I didn't grasp the concept of limiting my choices. I wanted to try all the flavors of ice cream and still don't regret the ones I ate. Though for the time and effort, even with lots of free sex, it still wasn't worth it. Too much time, too much real life drama. Plus, I just don't get "selfies. " The mantra of the ages, "Kids TODAY. " I don't get the kick at looking at oneself all the time when there are so much other things to look at. Like myself. (He He. Joking).
It seems like in order to be a good sugar daddy one needs to take care of their choice. And if unable to do that, give enough money so they stick around. For me it would have to be a relationship based on mutual respect of some kind. No women is worth giving your money to if she doesn't respect you for more than your wallet. By doing that you create the very thing I want to destroy. Pretty Lazy Beooches.
Luckily, I can fool myself into thinking that I've never had to pay for pussy. Its so easy to go clubbing and make-out with a slew of girls, start orgies, and fuck all night. Good times. But it's also about refining ones skills. When I'm older, I want to have a vast store house of experienced knowledge to operate in order to maximize returns, while avoiding known and unknown pitfalls. In the future, being a sugar daddy is a strong possibility. Or, I want to have concubines. That's probably a stupid idea, but the greats in China and Arabia had thousands. Thousands!
Men today just aren't built like we used to be.
[QUOTE=Christophe1;2314200]Yeah, I'm too young to be a sugar daddy.
I can get the experience for free or the same price as dating, with far less headaches. I did the NP thing for a year which probably isn't comparable. The girls and women back then hadn't really thought about the next level of doing it as a full time SB gig. From reading the board, it appears that the Sugar Baby idea is on BLAST by EVERYWHERE including regular media. A couple years ago, and before that, one could easily find women of different echelons in need of help. For me, a couple $60 or $100 dates turned into FWBs and having hours of sex. Actually, it was pretty great. At the time I didn't grasp the concept of limiting my choices. I wanted to try all the flavors of ice cream and still don't regret the ones I ate. Though for the time and effort, even with lots of free sex, it still wasn't worth it. Too much time, too much real life drama. Plus, I just don't get "selfies. " The mantra of the ages, "Kids TODAY. " I don't get the kick at looking at oneself all the time when there are so much other things to look at. Like myself. (He He. Joking).
It seems like in order to be a good sugar daddy one needs to take care of their choice. And if unable to do that, give enough money so they stick around. For me it would have to be a relationship based on mutual respect of some kind. No women is worth giving your money to if she doesn't respect you for more than your wallet. By doing that you create the very thing I want to destroy. Pretty Lazy Beooches.
Luckily, I can fool myself into thinking that I've never had to pay for pussy. Its so easy to go clubbing and make-out with a slew of girls, start orgies, and fuck all night. Good times. But it's also about refining ones skills. When I'm older, I want to have a vast store house of experienced knowledge to operate in order to maximize returns, while avoiding known and unknown pitfalls. In the future, being a sugar daddy is a strong possibility. Or, I want to have concubines. That's probably a stupid idea, but the greats in China and Arabia had thousands. Thousands!
Men today just aren't built like we used to be.[/QUOTE]There is no free pussy or very little. Free. Meaning free of cash, drama of any kind, commitment, having to listen to whatever. When yr paying for it, you are more likely to get it your way or no way. You seem to like Chinese culture. Then you are very aware of the the current trend there to brag about and show off how much you overpay for it. I sugar daddy for a couple reasons. I like heavily scripted sex. That can take multiple dates to learn. I like having a GF or least pretend to have one when we are together. I like companionship. I like the competition between the girls. I like NP's. And I really like little girls that need their daddy. And I don't like menus, clock watching or std's (cuz I only go bare).
[QUOTE=Christophe1;2314200]Yeah, I'm too young to be a sugar daddy.
I can get the experience for free or the same price as dating, with far less headaches. I did the NP thing for a year which probably isn't comparable. The girls and women back then hadn't really thought about the next level of doing it as a full time SB gig. From reading the board, it appears that the Sugar Baby idea is on BLAST by EVERYWHERE including regular media. A couple years ago, and before that, one could easily find women of different echelons in need of help. For me, a couple $60 or $100 dates turned into FWBs and having hours of sex. Actually, it was pretty great. At the time I didn't grasp the concept of limiting my choices. I wanted to try all the flavors of ice cream and still don't regret the ones I ate. Though for the time and effort, even with lots of free sex, it still wasn't worth it. Too much time, too much real life drama. Plus, I just don't get "selfies. " The mantra of the ages, "Kids TODAY. " I don't get the kick at looking at oneself all the time when there are so much other things to look at. Like myself. (He He. Joking).
It seems like in order to be a good sugar daddy one needs to take care of their choice. And if unable to do that, give enough money so they stick around. For me it would have to be a relationship based on mutual respect of some kind. No women is worth giving your money to if she doesn't respect you for more than your wallet. By doing that you create the very thing I want to destroy. Pretty Lazy Beooches.
Luckily, I can fool myself into thinking that I've never had to pay for pussy. Its so easy to go clubbing and make-out with a slew of girls, start orgies, and fuck all night. Good times. But it's also about refining ones skills. When I'm older, I want to have a vast store house of experienced knowledge to operate in order to maximize returns, while avoiding known and unknown pitfalls. In the future, being a sugar daddy is a strong possibility. Or, I want to have concubines. That's probably a stupid idea, but the greats in China and Arabia had thousands. Thousands!
Men today just aren't built like we used to be.[/QUOTE]I would assert that we aren't any less men than these Chinese or Arabians, but that we have been victimized by the Women's Liberation Movement, which has drastically changed the mindset of the women available to us to serve in such a capacity.
Last month I took a membership in SA. As you can remember in my previous post the inaugural meet and greet week was a mixture of bitter and sweet. My one AA POT turned SB has been txting like crazy and we are set for an all niter this week. I have a few new fuck-me outfits for her to model with the intention of working towards some action shots once I can loosen her up a bit. So nice when a HCB txts me telling me she is horny and wants me to fill her orgasm quota for the week.
So I opened up a new profile on SA. Keeping tabs on SB#1 (hasn't logged on for over three weeks) and giving me a chance to fish for an additional trophy. Or two.
POT#2: 18, service job. Not a spinner which is more clearly my preference. But a 8. 5/ face; 6. 5/ body and a 7 personality. This is one that I could not connect with during the last interview window. Maybe the second time will be the charm. If she is a sexual dynamo she could break into regular category. But I'm not counting on this little chicken yet.
POT#3: Asian 19: school / work. On and off again correspondence but this week she's been much more engaging and we have a M&G scheduled for Friday. Seems really sweet but she could be GPS.
POT#4 Caucasion, 19, blond with a girl next door look. Also not a spinner so performance in other areas will be make it or break it with her.
I will give an after action report once there has been action to report.
Josh.
P.S. : How do you work the girls that you'd like to see while traveling? As I get to So Cal multiple times every year I would really love to have a UTR or SB for my visits. Do any babies specialize in that type of an arrangement? And if so what kind of profile clues may indicate that possibility.
[QUOTE=JoshInyu;2320869]Last month I took a membership in SA. As you can remember in my previous post the inaugural meet and greet week was a mixture of bitter and sweet. My one AA POT turned SB has been txting like crazy and we are set for an all niter this week. I have a few new fuck-me outfits for her to model with the intention of working towards some action shots once I can loosen her up a bit. So nice when a HCB txts me telling me she is horny and wants me to fill her orgasm quota for the week.
So I opened up a new profile on SA. Keeping tabs on SB#1 (hasn't logged on for over three weeks) and giving me a chance to fish for an additional trophy. Or two.
POT#2: 18, service job. Not a spinner which is more clearly my preference. But a 8. 5/ face; 6. 5/ body and a 7 personality. This is one that I could not connect with during the last interview window. Maybe the second time will be the charm. If she is a sexual dynamo she could break into regular category. But I'm not counting on this little chicken yet.
POT#3: Asian 19: school / work. On and off again correspondence but this week she's been much more engaging and we have a M&G scheduled for Friday. Seems really sweet but she could be GPS.
POT#4 Caucasion, 19, blond with a girl next door look. Also not a spinner so performance in other areas will be make it or break it with her.
I will give an after action report once there has been action to report.
Josh.
P.S. : How do you work the girls that you'd like to see while traveling? As I get to So Cal multiple times every year I would really love to have a UTR or SB for my visits. Do any babies specialize in that type of an arrangement? And if so what kind of profile clues may indicate that possibility.[/QUOTE]Look for girls that always seem to be online. Thats one clue.
My SA account expired, but had a couple girls text me who I had on the backburner.
They both want $500 just for a hookup. Absolute refusal to negotiate anything better.
This scene is getting ruined.
[QUOTE=WHM69;2322135]My SA account expired, but had a couple girls text me who I had on the backburner.
They both want $500 just for a hookup. Absolute refusal to negotiate anything better.
This scene is getting ruined.[/QUOTE]Seeking Arrangement is a joke. Scam city. Forget SA. SugarDaddyForMe seems better.
[QUOTE=CreamyBare;2322624]Seeking Arrangement is a joke. Scam city. Forget SA. SugarDaddyForMe seems better.[/QUOTE]Been on SD4 M for 7 years now. I have to say I like it.
My buddy is on this site constantly. He has had the following results:
About 10 lunches with girls who waste guys' time. He probably paid 50 to 100 per lunch for no action. Lots of women with kids and hanging skin.
He paid a full grand to some girl who gave him a therapeutic massage.
5 k to a girl who he fell for and fucked twice.
2 grand for one girl to take a one day trip with him and quote him a really high price.
500 a toss to fuck girls with bad tits or in their "late 20's".
So, he blew about 10 k in a month for about 6-7 fucks. Guys go on there for the fantasy of having a "girlfriend" because their egos are all fucked up and want someone to kiss their ass and who does not smell like cock. So they over pay for girls who manage to appear legititmate.
[QUOTE=Hundred;2327355]My buddy is on this site constantly. He has had the following results:
About 10 lunches with girls who waste guys' time. He probably paid 50 to 100 per lunch for no action. Lots of women with kids and hanging skin.
He paid a full grand to some girl who gave him a therapeutic massage.
5 k to a girl who he fell for and fucked twice.
2 grand for one girl to take a one day trip with him and quote him a really high price.
500 a toss to fuck girls with bad tits or in their "late 20's".
So, he blew about 10 k in a month for about 6-7 fucks. Guys go on there for the fantasy of having a "girlfriend" because their egos are all fucked up and want someone to kiss their ass and who does not smell like cock. So they over pay for girls who manage to appear legititmate.[/QUOTE]Yup. The site "seeking arrangement" should be renamed "seeking to be played". LOL. Stay away.