Why am I so invested in this?
[QUOTE=MisterMister46;6468555]Just moved to Philly and I've been scouring the sites, but it looks really dry out there. Just looking for a provider who is reliable, not in a sketchy area, and at least like a 6 on the looks scale. Any recommendations?[/QUOTE]I'm not sure why I am putting so much time to respond to your question but here is even more info:
I stopped using escorts because of a few bad experiences and I find better options elsewhere. But back then I used to use two sites: skipthegames and listcrawler / escort_babylon.
I just looked to see if I recognize anyone I seen previously. Here are just a few quick reviews. All of these are from a few years ago:
[URL]https://skipthegames.com/posts/philadelphia/female-escorts/caucasian_w/friday--south-philly-cardates-/662411897328[/URL]
Met her once. Picked her up for a cardate. Parked in a church parking lot. Overall experience was fine but she left a big mess in my car without telling me. Some of her pics are years old.
[URL]https://skipthegames.com/posts/philadelphia/female-escorts/caucasian_e/available-now-car-outcall-spec/957575380765[/URL]
Met her twice I think. Once in a hotel on roosevelt blvd. Another time in a basement house in the northeast. She has a scar on her chest from a surgery or something.
[URL]https://skipthegames.com/posts/mount-laurel-nj/female-escorts/caucasian_w/2nite-only80bbj100ssqvdont-mis/500439844458[/URL]
Picked her up a few times off the street. She seemed fine. Has youtube videos floating around somewhere. Missing some teeth.
[URL]https://escortbabylon.net/posts_view/154013006/2677664925[/URL]
Saw her a few times. All pretty good. I think she has surgery scars along her spine. The last time I saw her was around covid times and she was super preggo. At the that time, it was in a small basement apt in a sketch neighborhood but didn't have any issues. I wouldn't be surprised if this one doesn't do any hard drugs. She might just be poor.
Keep in mind that there are a lot of scams on those sites.
Other options are sugar dating and strip clubs.
When I moved to philly, the most noticable thing was how crazy people drive. For many drivers, they consider traffic law to be more of a suggestion rather than a law. People are often running reds, driving on the wrong side of the road, park in the middle of the street, etc.
But AMPs are probably your best bet. Almost always the girls are 6 or above. Sometime they may try to pass off a grannie or a chubbie. Some give you a lineup. Usually pretty safe. (although there was a shooting at one several years ago, but there are shootings everywhere in philly.) And most of the AMPs really take pride in providing good service and have their system all worked out.
What I see as changes since the demise of BP.
[QUOTE=SentryMarv1;6471490]The scene in Philly has been abysmal for a while now. Even though I manage to find some decent looking women with solid prices, the overall quality level is low, and I don't see it changing for a while. The end of backpage really caused a paradigm shift in providers. With skip and listcrawler, literally most of the ads are fake, and the few real ones the girls are either overpriced, unattractive, and / or gives a terrible performance. I'm in semi-retirement as of now, so I'm only really sticking to my regulars and that's it.[/QUOTE][I]Hope Marv doesn't mind me using his post to spark me getting up on my soapbox! No offense intended.[/I]
The paradigm shift after backpage appears to be that [b]there is no longer one dominant website[/b] were everyone posts. Now it looks like the offers are spread around numerous websites: the most prevalent can be found in the escort section of The P*rn Dude website. But other sites, SM and apps appear every day that make it harder to find girls.
Oh and something else I found: if I stick to the "usual" websites I get bored with the regulars and scammers. BUT I have found that when I do DD (ie search pics) [b]I often find different websites.[/b] So I keep a list of those 'new' sites and periodically go to them and look at what is posted there. Admittedly, looks like many 'new' sites scrape content & posts from other sites, but occasionally there are a few with different girls, fresh faces and good talent.
I agree, many sites are a sewer, it is easy to get frustrated and give up. What I found is that with the easy, go to site BP being gone, [b]I had to spend more time in a search, up my skills[/b] as to not waste extra time and avoid being driven by the little head.
But quality is out there, it just takes me a LOT more time to find it. I found that [b]I needed to have a multi-denominational approach[/b] and keep working those approaches. For instance, I work the streets from time to time and develop relationships with the girls with phones. Then there are searches on line for some better quality girls. I found that, sticking with just the standard escort sites yielded diminishing returns, so I expanded to SugarBabies, Cheaters and Hook-up sites. Also, I'd be remiss if I forget the AMPs which are rich and plentiful in this area. While there has been some price creep in the last couple of years at AMPs, I can still find some good times in AMPs and usually at rates much less than some of this average to below average girls on the websites.
[b]If you want top-quality, you'll have to pay for it.[/b] Oh sure, the ghetto has invaded sites like Tryst and Eros, but 8-10 girls with their own apartments in safe areas, who are perfectly manicured and very accommodating can be had. I splurge there from time to time, but it is not cheap and can bust a budget pretty quickly!
Oh and I'll add this. Just like trying to find a job, I have found that [b]networking works in this game[/b]. While some girls are jealous or competitive and want you to only see them (they get all of your cash flow) others are mature enough to know guys need variety. But asking a girl if she knows someone else she could recommend has yielded great results for me. Shoot, one of my regulars is a 5th generation recommendation. At one point, I had a girl who provided about a dozen girls as referrals, even though she was a referral herself. Even this last week, I did a 3-some with a regular and a girl she knows. Now I have the other girl's number for when the need arises.
So with BP gone, the low hanging fruit appears to be gone and now it takes me much more time and effort to find new talent. I do [b]keep a few in "rotation" or on a bench[/b], such that during times of need I have something to fall back on. But that gives me the ability to keep looking and searching the sites. I get it that guys tire of girls and I do too, but seeing a girl once every 2-3 weeks (or even monthly) cuts the boredom, keeps her 'fresh' and keeps her in play.
So I think the days of waking up horny, going on a site and finding a girl that suits and getting drained are likely in the rear-view mirror. Now it takes time to weed through the scammers (money upfront, deposits, etc) and find a decent girl. I have found that can't be done at an instance, especially when the 'need' arises. So I [b]keep lines in the water and check periodically.[/b]
I have found that the younger girls are much more open sexually and open to enjoying sex and getting paid for their time. So we aren't up against it culturally as much as we use to be. Sure the easy pickings days have faded, but [b]there is plenty of talent out there![/b] I found the amount of time one puts in yields results!
Don't give up! It can be done!