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Same senerio over and over. Targeting human trafficking. Who are they protecting, I thought it would be the girls who are being forcibly trafficked but were they offered support by any government agencies and offered some type of protection? No, it just says they were charged with illegal massage. Screw this human trafficking BS. .
[QUOTE=TheSting24;3129170]I read this yesterday on a news site in Miami that I check daily.
This happened in Hollywood, FL which is right outside of Ft. Lauderdale.
Hollywood police have arrested two dozen suspects in a massive operation targeting prostitution at massage parlors in the city, officials said Thursday. (Published Thursday, Oct. 27,2016).
Hollywood police have arrested two dozen suspects in a massive operation targeting prostitution at massage parlors in the city, officials said Thursday.
"Operation Red Light" was a five-month investigation that targeted prostitution and human trafficking at 20 different locations, police said.
Undercover officers from Hollywood Police and USA Immigration and Customs Enforcement's Homeland Security Investigations found evidence that women were performing sexual acts on customers at the massage parlors.
Investigators also found beds, clothing and food that showed some of the women were living in the parlors, and some of the women admitted they were living there, police said.
Hollywood police have arrested two dozen suspects in a massive operation targeting prostitution at massage parlors in the city, officials said Thursday. "Operation Red Light" was a five-month investigation that targeted prostitution and human trafficking at 20 different locations, police said. (Published Thursday, Oct. 27,2016).
"These women face charges of solicitation of prostitution, operating without a license, misrepresenting themselves as licensed massage therapists," Hollywood Police spokeswoman Miranda Grossman said.
Two of the women who are owners of massage parlors also face bribery charges. Giselle Guo, owner of Lucky Spa at 7060 Taft Street, and Yan Zheng, owner of Hollywood Unisex at 2126 Hollywood Boulevard, told an undercover detective they would pay him to provide protection from police and agreed to pay him $400 a month to keep officers away from the businesses, police said.
The parlors busted are:
Bonita Spa, 5450 S. SR 7 Ste 4, Hollywood FL.
Lucky Spa, 1637 S. 21st St. , Hollywood, FL.
Best Asian Massage, 6700 Taft St. , Hollywood, FL.
Ting Ting Spa, 6151 Washington St. , Hollywood, FL.
Fantasy Spa, 2106 Tyler St. , Hollywood, FL.
Asian Massage, 1943 Pembroke Rd. , Hollywood, FL.
Casino Spa, 5408 S. SR 7, Hollywood, FL.
Hollywood Asian Spa, 4622 Hollywood Boulevard, Hollywood, FL.
Sunshine Oriental Massage, 4211 and. SR 7, Hollywood, FL.
Relax Spa, 5892 Stirling Rd. , Hollywood, FL.
Asian Hollywood Spa, 2814 Hollywood Boulevard, Hollywood, FL.
Hollywood Unisex, 2126 Hollywood Boulevard, Hollywood, FL.
Spa Latinas, 5104 S. SR 7, Hollywood, FL.
Spa Latinas, 5102 S. SR 7, Hollywood, FL.
Xhale Spas, 5808 Johnson St. , Hollywood, FL.
New Life Massage, 5450 S. SR 7 Ste 5, Hollywood, FL.
Published at 5:45 PM EDT on Oct 27,2016.
Updated at 11:40 PM EDT on Oct 27,2016.
NBC 6 South Florida.[/QUOTE]I can understand these folks getting in trouble based on the violations you mentioned. But the living in the store is more of a misunderstanding of the AMP culture more than it relates to human trafficking. I have met many girls that actually prefer to live in the store the rents the same. And the reason is, if she lives in an apartment with 2, 3 4 or 5 girls. They have to get up really early because that is a house full of girls trying to shower and cook their meals at the same time and do laundry for the day their clothes which get oily and have to be cleaned or they will stain. Then ride to the store and most of the time there is a transportation fee with "some" owners for the week ain't nothing free! Then work 12/14 hours. Clean the store gather their things ride back to the apartment fight over the shower AGAIN then wash and dry the towel's WE spewed on. So if a store closes at 11:00 their head may hit the pillow at 12:30. Then BAM!! Time to get up and rock and roll again. But when a girl stays in the store she can get up later and go to bed sooner which means more rest. If she has to do laundry it's just much easier at the store. It's not like the 20 minute drive home is giving them a break from the store. If the store has a fridge a hot plate, washer and dryer and a table shower they are set that's as good as any apartment and sometimes not half as crowded or stressful. So a girl living in a store is not what it appears. But what I really wanted to say was I'm not sure what made me say holy shit all of those places got busted or holy shit that town had 16 HE stores whew wee!
This is an FBI driven operation with local police doing the ground work. Remember how they get most mafia heads it's by tax evasion. The guy they arrested last week and they said he owned Touch of Asia that is not true. They have only charged the 2 girls that worked there and no other girls have been charged because they had to have charges in order to raid all the girls apartments. This investigation has been going on since early 2015 and they already knew where the sleep apartments were. For those who don't know what a sleep apartment is its where a owner has set up a place for the girls to stay while they work in the store. There is no prostitution going on there. These girls are like gypsy's they are constantly moving from city to city. So they are raiding these apartments and confiscating all the girls money saying because it doesn't have much for furniture and only beds it must be a house for prostitution. They are scaring these girls badly. The FBI is saying this is organized crime because the money is being sent to owners in NY. None of the girls around here are trafficked as a matter of fact 11 of them stayed at my house for 2 days this week. They had nothing but the clothes on their backs because they were to frightened to go back to the raided apartment's. I took each group back to gather their stuff and made sure they were away from the area safe. Look at the charge against the guy they arrested statues 90-95 when you read it you will say WTF. They are going after the big fish in NY and using the local girls as bait. Remember tax evasion. On a more fun note having all these girls with only the clothes on their backs staying with me made my house a great place to be when they all decided to their laundry. They have no problem being naked around each other. Sometimes it good to be me.
[QUOTE=Tee98;3129420]This is an FBI driven operation with local police doing the ground work. Remember how they get most mafia heads it's by tax evasion. The guy they arrested last week and they said he owned Touch of Asia that is not true. They have only charged the 2 girls that worked there and no other girls have been charged because they had to have charges in order to raid all the girls apartments. This investigation has been going on since early 2015 and they already knew where the sleep apartments were. For those who don't know what a sleep apartment is its where a owner has set up a place for the girls to stay while they work in the store. There is no prostitution going on there. These girls are like gypsy's they are constantly moving from city to city. So they are raiding these apartments and confiscating all the girls money saying because it doesn't have much for furniture and only beds it must be a house for prostitution. They are scaring these girls badly. The FBI is saying this is organized crime because the money is being sent to owners in NY. None of the girls around here are trafficked as a matter of fact 11 of them stayed at my house for 2 days this week. They had nothing but the clothes on their backs because they were to frightened to go back to the raided apartment's. I took each group back to gather their stuff and made sure they were away from the area safe. Look at the charge against the guy they arrested statues 90-95 when you read it you will say WTF. They are going after the big fish in NY and using the local girls as bait. Remember tax evasion. On a more fun note having all these girls with only the clothes on their backs staying with me made my house a great place to be when they all decided to their laundry. They have no problem being naked around each other. Sometimes it good to be me.[/QUOTE]I'm jealous, but seriously these girls are very scared and confused now. I think once they gather their thoughts and belongings they are gone, stores under the microscope and no license not worth the risk many other jobs out there. Thanks for offering them a helping hand.
[QUOTE=Tee98;3129420]This is an FBI driven operation with local police doing the ground work.[/QUOTE]So for those who don't care to. Statutes 90-95 are all about drugs. Not just the sale, but manufacture, maintaining an address etc.
These are more in line with the Federal RICO charges that we have been seeing other owners popped for. Not good someone as they wind up in PMITA Federal Prison. Unfortunately, it is usually not the big fish but some intermediary.
The girls. Geez, what a shitty situation. I am guessing most of them will be picked up at some point and just hit with some BS charge to get them deported. Course, their home countries government will be made aware of such and they will likely be.
Imprisoned until they or their family hand over whatever amount the government thinks they made and illegally sent back. The fact that the FBI knew the sleep spots should scare the SHIT out of all of us. If they know that, then you can damn well bet there have been some license plate pictures made outside agencies in the area trying to see if they can find another shark amongst the shrimp. Might just be time to fuck the wife for a while. At least she will make me a sandwich after if I ask nicely.
All the more reason to vote Democrat this year. Hopefully, we can leverage some of the turning back of the laws the fetus people have pushed into a more rational discussion of non-victim crimes such as FBSM and Prostitution. But if they turn up one girl around here that is underage and they say was trafficked or indentured for wages all bets are off. The stakes in such jump up damn quick. Even to the point where there have been cases of underage sexual assault filed against mongers caught redhanded with a girl just on the wrong side of 18.
[QUOTE=EdGein;3129502]Neither of these are really girls I knew who I then saw advertising for sex, but close enough and the stories are good ones to learn from.
First one was over 25 years ago. Noticed that a girl working at the Doll House looked well, familiar. But our brains are programmed to see folks in their environments and identifiers are provided by location. So I didn't think anything else about it. Until 3 days later at the bank and lo and behold it was little MS. DeeDee Poleshiner behind the counter. I smiled really big as I was in line and she looked at me and sort of half smiled and frowned at the same time. By the time I got to her she had written something down on a teller slip and handed it to me first before taking my deposits and such. When I started to open it she said quietly 'Not here' and continued with the most professional banking transaction I have ever had.
Out in the car, I read the note. "Please please please do not make a scene. Do not tell the managers or anyone here what I also do. They would fire me as they have a strict ethics policy for folks that handle money. Here is my number. Call me after 6:30 tonight and we can go out to dinner and I will thank you in person for your discretion. XXX Her real name and her stripper name. ".
That began one of the best 3 weeks of my life. Every other night all up in this little tight sorority girl. She actually sort of enjoyed it after a bit when she realized I was not a serial killer or such. She and I had some common interests so we did lots of those activities. Then the crazy started leaking out of her. Her Daddy was paying for most everything. Apartment downtown, Clothes, fairly new Mercedes. Of course to keep that happening she had to have the good girl job at the bank. The stripping was to pay for her 'recreational' Bolivian marching powder. Which I began to notice was always enjoyed in large quantities before sex. She started calling me at odd times, showed up at my apartment one night while I was entertaining another young woman and she did not like that I asked her to leave via the 1 inch cracked door. Threatened to have one of her father's friends do some unkind things to me. I reminded her of the true nature of the relationship, blackmail, and she shut right up. I saw her off and on for the 6 months, my then fiancee was out of the country and then a week before she was due back told the stripper if I ever heard her voice again I would call her father who I had figured out was a VERY prominent lawyer / Politician in the town. Never heard a peep. Saw her occasionally at the Doll House. I would tell my friends I was with I fucked her. They always laughed.
The 2nd one. One of my high school crushes. Stopped to give a girl panhandling in the rain some money and it was her. Got her in the car. Short story, drugs and arrest and family disowned her. Nowhere to stay, the last boyfriend had beat her and stole what little money she had. She lived with me a month or so gaining weight and trying to find a decent job. I had not touched her until about the end of the 4th week when I came home and she had fixed dinner and when I opened the door she was standing in front of the table nude with a glass of wine. Offered me dinner then dessert or we could just skip to dessert. We fucked seven ways to Sunday for at least 24 hours on and off. After the shock sort of wore off, I told her that I had been crazy about her in High School which turns out she had known at the time but had not been able to act on due to her strict ass family. Then I asked why the sudden affection. And she then asked me to carry her to her dealer so she could buy some heroin.
Broke my heart. I was only like 3 months after divorce one and she had shown up at just the time when you get to that weird point where you wonder if there will be anyone else you ever can convince is really caring about you. And she just stomped the shit out of that.
I offered to carry her to a treatment facility. She had been shooting up really small amounts in a vein in the edge of her hairline to maintain but had ran out a week before and was starting to detox. She said she just wanted 'one more big hit' and then she would let me carry her to rehab. So idiot here took her to her dealer's place. She told me to stay in the car as he would not let her in if I was with her. Never really noticed she was carrying a huge purse instead of the small one I had gotten her for a job interview. She had all the stuff (the pair of shoes, a dress, makeup, comb, and a few pieces of jewelry) I had given her over the time. I also did not know she had gotten someone to come over and pick my safe and took a couple thousand in cash, a gun, some artwork and a few other things. I rarely opened the safe so it had likely been done days or weeks before.
After about an hour of sitting there trying to decide if I should go up or call the cops, a large young guy came down and walked over to my car. Motioned for me to roll down the window and he told me quite clearly that I was to leave and never even think about her again. I nodded, did not say a word, started the car and left. Stopped at the local police precinct and told them the whole story and verified the address. They had photos of the guy who came down as they had been trying to bust him for months. Seems he was the dealer and her on and off boyfriend who had booted her ass when she refused to be tricked out to his friends. I can not tell you how I cried when I saw her picture and his on the news the next day. She is in Federal at Butner. She has 17 years to go as her name was on the lease for the apartment so she got charged with maintaining a dwelling to manufacture and distribute. Her third offense for such and one of a long list of drug related things her parents had been getting her out of until recently. Two years later I got a call one night. The auto reader "You have a call from 'Her name said in her little girl sleepy voice' who is a prisoner at Butner Federal Correction Facility. Press one to accept, or hang up. " I hung up.
I see another friend of mine from High School on BP all the time. She was borderline schizophrenic then. I cannot imagine what the crazy had become since then.[/QUOTE]I wish he put the link to he girl, in another time and place I would believe him but honestly is there anything on Backpage that is that hot? Especially the body rubs section where there has been nothing worth looking at for at least the past year.
So here is my question for all of you more experienced mongers out there. Is it safe to keep going to these places or do we stay away for a little while? More specifically, Westgate is my spot. Close by and never left sad. Is it safe even though it says open?
[QUOTE=JakeLaMotta69;3126574]I was at a local cafe yesterday and I overheard an unknown person describing to a buddy the intimate details of an incident that they experienced earlier that day. I've repeated here verbatim as best I can remember exactly what I heard:
Again, this is just what I heard. You can judge as to the validity.[/QUOTE]Any idea what time of day this took place?
[QUOTE=JRoy12;3129791]So here is my question for all of you more experienced mongers out there. Is it safe to keep going to these places or do we stay away for a little while? More specifically, Westgate is my spot. Close by and never left sad. Is it safe even though it says open?[/QUOTE]I've been wondering the same. Most of my regulars are gone or on vaca, and I'm in no way highly experienced at this, but I'm thinking it would be relatively safe if you recognize the girl. But I will follow the monger rules extra careful now. I think they were going after a select group connected to T of A because they could shut down any store on any day if they really wanted to do so. Going after the big fish. I think a couple stores are just hunkering down, lettings things settle to avoid any attention / publicity.
Stay safe.
Med.
[QUOTE=JRoy12;3129791]So here is my question for all of you more experienced mongers out there. Is it safe to keep going to these places or do we stay away for a little while? More specifically, Westgate is my spot. Close by and never left sad. Is it safe even though it says open?[/QUOTE]IMO I think it's perfectly safe because the riff going on is between the stores and the authorities mainly because of this massage license thing. I think what we will notice is the selection of stores will obviously be limited to choose from until when or if they reopen by the current owners or someone else new. Also the services may vary now in this state of caution especially for newbies to the store, regulars should be fine. So I say continue going because these folks are like us they have bills to pay and need food and shelter and us Mongers have an itch to scratch. But everyone should go with their own budget and gut feeling after all the reason for going to a place like this is to enjoy the visit and relax. If it makes you uncomfortable then there's your answer. At my age it's one thing I've learned and that is no matter what changes if you give it time and keep a close eye on the change there is usually a silver lining. Will some of the girls left working in these places open up their menu to their regulars? Will the underground / apartment increase give these American BP girls a huge challenge especially if the Koreans start pushing ass out of their homes. They cracked down hard in LA with stores now there are tons of some mighty fine Asian ladies not these 40 something chicks but young and wet that will fuck your brains out in their apartment for $100 and usually 3 or 4 to choose from mostly Korean. Sometimes change can be good, I personally am not afraid of it not feeling safe because I'm not breaking any laws I'm more concerned with the quality of the massage and HE, My 2 cents.
[QUOTE=XHippie;3129957]IMO I think it's perfectly safe because the riff going on is between the stores and the authorities mainly because of this massage license thing. I think what we will notice is the selection of stores will obviously be limited to choose from until when or if they reopen by the current owners or someone else new. Also the services may vary now in this state of caution especially for newbies to the store, regulars should be fine. So I say continue going because these folks are like us they have bills to pay and need food and shelter and us Mongers have an itch to scratch. But everyone should go with their own budget and gut feeling after all the reason for going to a place like this is to enjoy the visit and relax. If it makes you uncomfortable then there's your answer. At my age it's one thing I've learned and that is no matter what changes if you give it time and keep a close eye on the change there is usually a silver lining. Will some of the girls left working in these places open up their menu to their regulars? Will the underground / apartment increase give these American BP girls a huge challenge especially if the Koreans start pushing ass out of their homes. They cracked down hard in LA with stores now there are tons of some mighty fine Asian ladies not these 40 something chicks but young and wet that will fuck your brains out in their apartment for $100 and usually 3 or 4 to choose from mostly Korean. Sometimes change can be good, I personally am not afraid of it not feeling safe because I'm not breaking any laws I'm more concerned with the quality of the massage and HE, My 2 cents.[/QUOTE]Partook this evening and had a great time. Did scope out a little better than usual, but nothing out of the ordinary. Hope mongers stay home though, more for me and possibly improved and expanded massage skills! All the authorities are doing is pushing this underground. Making it less safe for the people they are "protecting" and hurting the "victims" of the trafficking- as if that is happening- I have had conversations about this with several of the girls and they categorically deny it. But in court they will say they are forced so as to be seen as a victim- and I would do the same. The goberment should be focusing on more important things.
Done with salt box.
Stay safe.
Med.
[QUOTE=XHippie;3128670]Let's see, Hummm recent reports of definite or possible closings. Raleigh, Durham, Garner, Apex, Knightdale, Cary, Clayton. Is anybody compiling a list? I'm loosing track of who is open. Should JJ's list include a Question Mark beside the store number? Just kidding JJ you don't need a added chore. I really feel sorry for the person that has that lease payment due every month.[/QUOTE]001 is open, I went last night. Turns out they close as 9:30 now. Had a great time as usual.
[QUOTE=XHippie;3128670]Let's see, Hummm recent reports of definite or possible closings. Raleigh, Durham, Garner, Apex, Knightdale, Cary, Clayton. Is anybody compiling a list? I'm loosing track of who is open. Should JJ's list include a Question Mark beside the store number? Just kidding JJ you don't need a added chore. I really feel sorry for the person that has that lease payment due every month.[/QUOTE]An alarming trend. In answer to your question, it might be helpful to share reports of AMPs still open as well as those that have closed. As of this evening 0037 Asian Remedy was open and busy. My favorite person there was on her way to NYC this evening, but she plans to return after one week of vacation. Sounds as if we have other reports that staff are leaving without necessarily planning to return.
[QUOTE=RubaDubdub01;3126659]So it has finally happened. Looking through BP and lo and behold I see a girl I know socially! Would have never guessed this was her part time job! Now the question is do I schedule a visit? Must admit, I got a ragging boner instantly when I saw her ad. Anyone else ever see a lady they know??[/QUOTE]Your discovery at least verifies the BP photo, which is helpful info. Care to share a link on the forum? Or would that be a bridge too far?
[QUOTE=JRoy12;3129791]So here is my question for all of you more experienced mongers out there. Is it safe to keep going to these places or do we stay away for a little while? More specifically, Westgate is my spot. Close by and never left sad. Is it safe even though it says open?[/QUOTE]My question too. I called an AMP ahead of visiting just to check if it was open. Then drove by to see if I could spot signs of any unusual activity. Nothing untoward, so I visited. The AMPs I've seen in this area have posted licenses. I go, I see their license, I visit, and then leave. Perhaps others can weigh in on the risks of visiting. I want to err on the side of being risk averse, but I also wish to support local AMPs. I recall seeing a posted license at Westgate on a previous visit there. So the question then becomes has the person visiting the AMP done anything wrong simply by going? Sometimes something slightly more sensuous is on offer at an AMP and sometimes not. So if nothing other than a massage takes place, is there any risk? This forum makes mention of a couple of close encounters of the LEO kind in recent days for patrons, with AMP owner and staff arrests, but no reports yet that I have seen of patrons suffering adverse consequences. So, like you, I wonder what the risks are and how best to mitigate those risks if one wishes to continue patronizing AMPs in our area.