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[QUOTE=SoccerFan4245;2656790]Angel told me a guy called from the forum. She was supposed to walk to his house off of Oklahoma. She said she wrote the address down but lost it. She she tried to back track her steps but couldn't find the paper. She asked if I had a way of reaching you. I had no idea since I didn't know who she talked to. She is not one to blow guys off so ease up on the anger issues. What she lacks in looks, she makes up for in availability. How many of the hoes will actually be willing to walk to your house? She doesn't have a car. Her issue is she is clumsy I guess.[/QUOTE]I'm the guy she was talking to. Generally speaking I don't buy her bs story for one minute. If you've heard one provider bs story you've heard them all. In all likely hood she took another date and said fuck this other guy.

[QUOTE=LookingForLefty;2660349]I believe it is Kate that you all have put up on a pedestal as how a provider should provide. There are not many around like her. Haven't seen any complaints. She even sounds like she'd be fun just to have a cup of coffee with.

But she is in the 1 percent crowd. Good for her.[/QUOTE]I agree with Lefty. Here's my take: Backpage and Craigslist made easy scores even easier to acquire years ago. The selection of low-hanging fruit grew exponentially. It's the amount of quality that shrunk. You deserve somebody fit, young, and intelligent, who will meet you for afternoon coffee and blow you for their hair and nail salon money. Practice chatting-up cashiers, college students at Barnes & Noble, and coffee shop baristas. Ask them about their their area of study or what their day job is, find a way to relate it back to what you do, and merge the two. She's an artist? You work in marketing. Tell her you'll review her work. She's an English Lit major? Think about the last classic you read, even if it was in High School, and ask her if she can recommend something similar. What's the point of building this rapport? First off, you may actually get play for free. That's a given. If not, talking to her about work and school will open up talk about money. She needs a new muffler, new textbooks, can't make her security deposit.

At some point, I'll tell her how lifting at the gym this weekend made my glutes and hamstrings sore. (Who knows, use raking the leaves as the reason if you have too.) The point is, you seriously need some body work. When the money talk comes up, it leaves that window wide open. If she not smart enough to consider "giving a massage" to help pay for things, she's not good enough for you.

[QUOTE=WiNiteOwl;2660582]I agree with Lefty. Here's my take: Backpage and Craigslist made easy scores even easier to acquire years ago. The selection of low-hanging fruit grew exponentially. It's the amount of quality that shrunk. You deserve somebody fit, young, and intelligent, who will meet you for afternoon coffee and blow you for their hair and nail salon money. Practice chatting-up cashiers, college students at Barnes & Noble, and coffee shop baristas. Ask them about their their area of study or what their day job is, find a way to relate it back to what you do, and merge the two. She's an artist? You work in marketing. Tell her you'll review her work. She's an English Lit major? Think about the last classic you read, even if it was in High School, and ask her if she can recommend something similar. What's the point of building this rapport? First off, you may actually get play for free. That's a given. If not, talking to her about work and school will open up talk about money. She needs a new muffler, new textbooks, can't make her security deposit.

At some point, I'll tell her how lifting at the gym this weekend made my glutes and hamstrings sore. (Who knows, use raking the leaves as the reason if you have too.) The point is, you seriously need some body work. When the money talk comes up, it leaves that window wide open. If she not smart enough to consider "giving a massage" to help pay for things, she's not good enough for you.[/QUOTE]Owl. You seem to do well with the young college girls. My specialty has been finding down and out women in the courts and waiting rooms. Girls with no drivers license, lots of municipal violations, used the f word a lot on her facebook page.

Maybe has a small child and has pictures on her FB with her smoking. Perhaps attending one of those fake colleges in an industrial park. Works the graveyard shift at Denny's or Webbs.

You check out her FB friends list and you see at least 5 women you've fucked already and another 10 you've had your eye one or are registered in the SD or SA sites.

Got some Ccap entries for some minor felonies and a paternity suit or two. You study her, learn about her, and when you finally go in for the capture, you know her better than she knows herself.

Also have done that with divorce filings. Model Mayhem is a good site. 95% of the women are not models but 99% think they are. Many list their real name which makes them easier to hunt.

Divorce filings I look for white women, age range of up to about 50. Looking for FB pics that are recent and show skin. Face pics only means they are fat. If a girl has a nice body she will show it off.

I look up their address. Then send them a message that I saw them at (the nearest Walgreens to their house). Of course they were there. Say the right things, meet them for coffee. Let the talk. And I mean let them get it all out.

Don't talk about yourself. You be a good listener. Look her in the eye and nod. Even though everything she says is mindless babble and going in one ear and out the other. You are only thinking about her ass at this point.

After she has worn herself out talking. Take her home and fuck her. She will think its her idea.

[QUOTE=LookingForLefty;2661032]Take her home and fuck her. She will think its her idea.[/QUOTE]What a punch line!. Awesome.

Even divorcees starting at 40 may be a good catch. What they have going is the shrinking addressable market above 40 which is mostly taken. Not sure if I will start with that.

[QUOTE=SamSinger;2661072]What a punch line!. Awesome.

Even divorcees starting at 40 may be a good catch. What they have going is the shrinking addressable market above 40 which is mostly taken. Not sure if I will start with that.[/QUOTE]The divorce court angle has often resulted in a similar outcome among women of various quality. Hot looking to ordinary, you take one home and give her DATY. And I mean really good. They show up at your house the next day. For every reason they can think of other than they want more DATY, which is the real reason.

They left something at your house. They were in the neighborhood. They need advice on their divorce. But 20 min in their head is bopping up and down while you are on your BJ throne. Often these women are not into FS because mentally they are not ready.

But DATY they justify as nothing much more than masturbation.

[QUOTE=LookingForLefty;2661032]Owl. You seem to do well with the young college girls. My specialty has been finding down and out women in the courts and waiting rooms. Girls with no drivers license, lots of municipal violations, used the f word a lot on her facebook page.[/QUOTE]My most recent brainstorm will force me to work my speed seduction game. At dinner, I'll often order local delivery for our house from the same neighborhood chain. Our delivery girl is spunky, mid-twenties, short, curvy, and cute with a solid looking dd cup. She can't make all that much shucking food to our door, but I tip her well. I need a way to move our 2 minute conversations into a paid BJ assignment, without blowing my cover.

[QUOTE=WiNiteOwl;2661560]My most recent brainstorm will force me to work my speed seduction game. At dinner, I'll often order local delivery for our house from the same neighborhood chain. Our delivery girl is spunky, mid-twenties, short, curvy, and cute with a solid looking dd cup. She can't make all that much shucking food to our door, but I tip her well. I need a way to move our 2 minute conversations into a paid BJ assignment, without blowing my cover.[/QUOTE]Invite her in for a minute just to chat? Just be straight forward with her and say you haven't had "company" in quite awhile?

[QUOTE=WiNiteOwl;2661560]My most recent brainstorm will force me to work my speed seduction game. At dinner, I'll often order local delivery for our house from the same neighborhood chain. Our delivery girl is spunky, mid-twenties, short, curvy, and cute with a solid looking dd cup. She can't make all that much shucking food to our door, but I tip her well. I need a way to move our 2 minute conversations into a paid BJ assignment, without blowing my cover.[/QUOTE]Why not have a 50 underneath her tip as you hand it to her and make sure she sees it. Maybe she can take a hint.

[QUOTE=WiNiteOwl;2661560]My most recent brainstorm will force me to work my speed seduction game. At dinner, I'll often order local delivery for our house from the same neighborhood chain. Our delivery girl is spunky, mid-twenties, short, curvy, and cute with a solid looking dd cup. She can't make all that much shucking food to our door, but I tip her well. I need a way to move our 2 minute conversations into a paid BJ assignment, without blowing my cover.[/QUOTE]I noticed you said "our house" so I assume there is a SO in the picture or something like that. If that's the case then I wouldn't risk it. I mean this gal knows where you live and could make your life hell.

Usually when others talk about picking up these gals with low paying jobs they usually are at that gals place of work or see them at a bus stop in uniform or something like that. I wouldn't risk one of these gals knowing where I live with a SO in the picture. They could show up unannounced or demand more money otherwise, ect, ect

[QUOTE=WiNiteOwl;2661560]My most recent brainstorm will force me to work my speed seduction game. At dinner, I'll often order local delivery for our house from the same neighborhood chain. Our delivery girl is spunky, mid-twenties, short, curvy, and cute with a solid looking dd cup. She can't make all that much shucking food to our door, but I tip her well. I need a way to move our 2 minute conversations into a paid BJ assignment, without blowing my cover.[/QUOTE]I agree with Milwaukeepussyhound that if you're married or have a girlfriend that lives with you, do not risk it. She could blackmail the hell out of you. If by "our" you mean roomates, then go for it! Leaving a real big tip might get the point across, but maybe not. I would try to see if you can get an idea of whether or not she's even interested before you spend anything extra. What I would do is try the ol' answer the door in a towel trick. Make sure you've got a rock hard bulge underneath for her to see. Bonus points if you "accidentally" drop the towel Ok, maybe dropping the towel is taking it too far. But maybe not. Go with your instincts. Another option would be to go comando and forget to zip up. Try it with a hardon in the mirror and see how far unzipped you should be to give her a peek inside. If you know she's caught a peek, make obvious contact with her hand when you give her a tip. She'll catch on. If you don't get anywhere that night, call again soon and see how she reacts when she shows up. You should be able to get an idea of whether or not she's interested. If she can't wait to leave, I'd say write her off. If you know for sure she noticed your hardon and she's just as chatty, I'd say there's a good chance she liked what she saw. Invite her over after work.

First-time poster, long-time monger.

I just stumbled onto this forum recently and give you guys a thumbs-up for sharing info. I, too, have a wealth of knowledge and experience in our twisted little hobby and I'll gladly share via PM or on these boards.

Here is my current question: I've been hunting down a favorite provider who "ghosted. " I think she may have ventured to "[URL]SA.com[/URL], " but can't find her there, either.

In searching, it dawns on me that [URL]SA.com[/URL] is a scam. There is no way the photos / bios are legit, or my tiny little burg would be crawling with hot chicks. Has anyone had success even chatting with someone on SA?

Are there providers who use that forum to drum up business and lift themselves above the backpage trash?

Seems to me it's like Ashley Madison was revealed to be -a scam.

Thoughts?

[QUOTE=BigScreen1029;2662665]First-time poster, long-time monger.

I just stumbled onto this forum recently and give you guys a thumbs-up for sharing info. I, too, have a wealth of knowledge and experience in our twisted little hobby and I'll gladly share via PM or on these boards.

Here is my current question: I've been hunting down a favorite provider who "ghosted. " I think she may have ventured to "[URL]SA.com[/URL], " but can't find her there, either.

In searching, it dawns on me that [URL]SA.com[/URL] is a scam. There is no way the photos / bios are legit, or my tiny little burg would be crawling with hot chicks. Has anyone had success even chatting with someone on SA?

Are there providers who use that forum to drum up business and lift themselves above the backpage trash?

Seems to me it's like Ashley Madison was revealed to be -a scam.

Thoughts?[/QUOTE]Like any site, its 85% scammers. Digging for gold, you got to learn to recognize the real from the fake. First if it looks too good to be true, it is.

[QUOTE=BigScreen1029;2662665]First-time poster, long-time monger.

I just stumbled onto this forum recently and give you guys a thumbs-up for sharing info. I, too, have a wealth of knowledge and experience in our twisted little hobby and I'll gladly share via PM or on these boards.

Here is my current question: I've been hunting down a favorite provider who "ghosted. " I think she may have ventured to "[URL]SA.com[/URL], " but can't find her there, either.

In searching, it dawns on me that [URL]SA.com[/URL] is a scam. There is no way the photos / bios are legit, or my tiny little burg would be crawling with hot chicks. Has anyone had success even chatting with someone on SA?

Are there providers who use that forum to drum up business and lift themselves above the backpage trash?

Seems to me it's like Ashley Madison was revealed to be -a scam.

Thoughts?[/QUOTE]I don't think it is as bad as AM. While Lefty is correct that there are a lot of scammers, I am not sure it is 85%. There are pro's, cam girls on there to be sure. There are also college coeds with varying ideas of what they want from a guy. There are also a lot of MILF's, divorcees, etc. I have had some decent luck on there. If you read some ofthe posts on here about SA, you will find some good advice on how to approach the women there.

[QUOTE=LookingForLefty;2662968]Like any site, its 85% scammers. Digging for gold, you got to learn to recognize the real from the fake. First if it looks too good to be true, it is.[/QUOTE]I agree it has scammers but it's no where near 85%. I have met 3 off there but I stopped using that site as to meet those gals you had to buy there premium package. Not worth it as far as I'm concerned. Most of the gals on there want minimum 300 just to meet. I remember there was this I chic 5'4" 140-150 nothing special (in fact she was kind of chubby) but I was chatting her up about doing just BJ'S and she wanted 300. I was able to talk her down to 200, but there is no way I'm paying 200 for a BJ. To me it's very high priced on the chics end.

[QUOTE=BigScreen1029;2662665]First-time poster, long-time monger. I just stumbled onto this forum recently and give you guys a thumbs-up for sharing info. I, too, have a wealth of knowledge and experience in our twisted little hobby and I'll gladly share via PM or on these boards.[/QUOTE]Welcome aboard. I'm looking to you sharing your wealth and experience with us in these forums. And I'm with MPH on the SA site. I feel most are legit but very unrealistic on the $$$ they feel their worth is. I guess if you don't ask for it you can't get it.