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Great advice, I concur on that. Sometimes talking to them good on the phone before and get to know them goes a long way. The sharks or hardcore girls who are basically escorts, they won't even entertain a phone call they will just say "when do you want to meet" for me only, I pass on those as it's going to be transactional with capital letters. To each their own, but I can feel that one may suck for me.
Stay safe.
AD.
[QUOTE=HollywoodGuy;5588509]Could be good sex, or just doing mundane shit for them, or just be willing to hang out with them, maybe drive them somewhere, . All stuff once you know you are getting your share. Giving advice. Time is money. And a lot of guys don't give these girls any time. Some of them want that.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=FirstClass1;5588379]That is exactly why you never provide your real address to someone you haven't even met yet. Chances are they already looked up your address on Google, and will case the place at their leisure.
Never leave any money in sight at the beginning of the date, never give money at the beginning of the date. Don't think like a trick, you are a Sugar Daddy. If you've already agreed upon an allowance, simply provide it at the end of the date. There's an old saying, "The prepaid musician plays a lousy tune. ".
A hotel is far more comfortable than a car date, and safer than your personal residence, especially for a first meet. Always have full control of the environment, don't meet at a place you don't recognize unless you have countermeasures in place, should things go sideways. Personally I don't book a hotel until I know we're heading to the FC. I set up a meet and greet in a public setting, and if the vibe is right, and she's DTF, then a few swipes on the phone and I've booked a room in a nice hotel. We'll simply walk over and have a great time.
[/QUOTE]These are some really good tips. I lost count of the number of SBs that give me their personal cell and how quickly I can Google their info, family, social media, and other shit from just that. The same can be done in reverse on you if not using a burner. Nothing wrong with Googling and doing your homework, just don't let the other side know you cracked their codes.
I was burned on the hotel recently. Booked a date with a SB and got a room with my points, SB cancelled last minute. Fortunately, I had a backup SB lined up and the room wasnt wasted. I was able to BBFS a 20-something white chick for two hours, all for 2 benjiis. The first SB that cancelled wanted to reschedule, saying she was absolutely sure she was able to make it, she could go to my home, and no hotel room needed. Little head (or big head depending how you look at it) did the thinking and booked ANOTHER hotel room with points. About an hour before we meet she tells me she needs to cut the meeting short to under an hour in the FC. I got the room already, so fuck it: fuck the brains out of a 20-something ABG BBFS for 45 minutes for $. 5.
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[QUOTE=Alkalinedio;5589006]Great advice, I concur on that. Sometimes talking to them good on the phone before and get to know them goes a long way. The sharks or hardcore girls who are basically escorts, they won't even entertain a phone call they will just say "when do you want to meet" for me only, I pass on those as it's going to be transactional with capital letters. To each their own, but I can feel that one may suck for me.
Stay safe.
AD.[/QUOTE]Being personable, good looking / good hygiene, attentive and good company always pays dividends in the FC: longer dates, lower allowances, uncovered and unlimited access to all holes, etc. Most SBs are looking for value beyond the cash and will be flexible. Only the hustlers and scammers are fixated on the dollar amounts.
As has been mentioned before, different demographics have varying allowance rates too. White and Asian girls tend to ask for a lot more, generally between 400-1 k, though it is still possible to find some willing to date for 200-300. Latinas are the next tier, with mids and uglies being affordable, and the modelesque types commanding allowances around the four figure range. Black girls are in least demand and are the most likely to be affordable, though the good looking ones among them may ask for a lot more.
Seeing HG's posts on his 100 buck dates, I decided to message a few black girls for the sake of satisfying my curiosity.
I was consistently able to have black girls agree to meet for the equivalent of 100-150. I even had a 19 yo college girl agree to 400 a month with two overnights a week. Essentially 50 bucks for all night access to all her holes.
I didn't follow through with any of them, as black girls are not my personal preference. If you want to try your luck with any of these, feel free to DM me and I'll forward the links.
Should you make an effort to be handsome and / or good company, you can still get excellent experiences at a reasonable allowance regardless of demographic.
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[QUOTE=FirstClass1;5589959]Being personable, good looking / good hygiene, attentive and good company always pays dividends in the FC: longer dates, lower allowances, uncovered and unlimited access to all holes, etc. Most SBs are looking for value beyond the cash and will be flexible. Only the hustlers and scammers are fixated on the dollar amounts.
As has been mentioned before, different demographics have varying allowance rates too. White and Asian girls tend to ask for a lot more, generally between 400-1 k, though it is still possible to find some willing to date for 200-300. Latinas are the next tier, with mids and uglies being affordable, and the modelesque types commanding allowances around the four figure range. Black girls are in least demand and are the most likely to be affordable, though the good looking ones among them may ask for a lot more.
Seeing HG's posts on his 100 buck dates, I decided to message a few black girls for the sake of satisfying my curiosity.
I was consistently able to have black girls agree to meet for the equivalent of 100-150. I even had a 19 yo college girl agree to 400 a month with two overnights a week. Essentially 50 bucks for all night access to all her holes.
I didn't follow through with any of them, as black girls are not my personal preference. If you want to try your luck with any of these, feel free to DM me and I'll forward the links.
Should you make an effort to be handsome and / or good company, you can still get excellent experiences at a reasonable allowance regardless of demographic.[/QUOTE]Well at least some one believes me.
And just posting this because I thought it was an interesting profile.
[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/828432dc-8f02-45b1-ac5e-323254512394[/URL]
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[QUOTE=HollywoodGuy;5590110]Well at least some one believes me.
And just posting this because I thought it was an interesting profile.
[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/828432dc-8f02-45b1-ac5e-323254512394[/URL][/QUOTE]That's Instagram model at alvajay. She's making millions off * and social media and doing higher end porn videos. I doubt she'd actually be on the site.
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Totally agree.
I've had great luck for sure with all that you listed. Taking care of myself is always number one and vibing with the girls I immediately forget what site we met on and get personal with them, disarm and make them comfortable. From there YMMV kicks in but what you said is very true! That's a crazy steal on the black girls I've had some gems and also a few nutjobs but just weed them out.
The majority, almost all of them never ask to use a condom, it's wild. I keep plan Bs handy you can get on amazon I buy them a few at a time to have ready.
Stay safe,
AD.
[QUOTE=FirstClass1;5589959]Being personable, good looking / good hygiene, attentive and good company always pays dividends in the FC: longer dates, lower allowances, uncovered and unlimited access to all holes, etc. Most SBs are looking for value beyond the cash and will be flexible. Only the hustlers and scammers are fixated on the dollar amounts.
As has been mentioned before, different demographics have varying allowance rates too. White and Asian girls tend to ask for a lot more, generally between 400-1 k, though it is still possible to find some willing to date for 200-300. Latinas are the next tier, with mids and uglies being affordable, and the modelesque types commanding allowances around the four figure range. Black girls are in least demand and are the most likely to be affordable, though the good looking ones among them may ask for a lot more.
Seeing HG's posts on his 100 buck dates, I decided to message a few black girls for the sake of satisfying my curiosity.
I was consistently able to have black girls agree to meet for the equivalent of 100-150. I even had a 19 yo college girl agree to 400 a month with two overnights a week. Essentially 50 bucks for all night access to all her holes.
I didn't follow through with any of them, as black girls are not my personal preference. If you want to try your luck with any of these, feel free to DM me and I'll forward the links.
Should you make an effort to be handsome and / or good company, you can still get excellent experiences at a reasonable allowance regardless of demographic.[/QUOTE]
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I love some of the things girls say in their profiles.
"I am vegetarian and love sushi".
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[QUOTE=PhillUponThese;5583395]She definitely talks a good game and her English was damn near flawless when we spoke on the phone-I just decided to pass as she seemed too damn eager to meet up and was willing to drive pretty much anywhere I would tell her. Thanks for sharing.[/QUOTE]She is real, got to see her twice. She can host out of a nice hotel most times, which is cool.
She does look older and probably early 40's, the lack of makeup compared to her pics definitely ages her a bit. Both times she was DTF and went straight to a BBBJ, then BBFS CIP. Got a single pop the first time, and got a (reluctant) second pop out of her on the second visit. She doesn't have any passion or gets into the session, but I've definitely had worse. I'd say she sits in the middle between C-orgs and K-orgs, slightly leaning towards the former. I was going to have her as a regular since she just wants 2 benjis, but I recently found another SB at the same price point that was much nicer looking and closer to me.
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This has to be against their terms of service. She sent me this message. Should be taken down soon. Talk about poaching.
[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/52bcd808-aed8-474f-9540-cfe8743fc76c[/URL]
To help you pick the girls you like, I initially provide piсturеs and detailed information including аge, height, weight, and names of the women. When you select a girl, I'll forward a message directly to that girl from you, and they'll decide if they want to сonneсt. This is frе1077; of chаrgе!
First, you are in touch with the girl of your choice via messages chаperoned by me. Later, as long as both people like each other and want to proсeed, my fе1077; is payable. I'll provide all сontact infоrmation and the fе1077; is 300 dоllars when both parties choose to сonnect.
Would you be open-minded about trying this as an alternative to SA? If you decide to give this a try, then I promise you won't be disappointed.
If you are interested in learning more about these girls, please reaсh out via еmаil or WhаtsApp and I'll forward their piсtures and details! Almost all the girls are looking for older, kinder, more mature men.
Еmаil — anna at lovely.
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Best regards, Anna.
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[QUOTE=HollywoodGuy;5592634]This has to be against their terms of service. She sent me this message. Should be taken down soon. Talk about poaching.
[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/52bcd808-aed8-474f-9540-cfe8743fc76c[/URL]
[/QUOTE]The profile has already been taken down, they'll set up another dummy account soon.
I've been messaged this scammer ring before: they pose as a matchmaking agency for girls out of Russia. The whole angle is of course to have you send in a "deposit" for access to an imaginary catalog of mail order brides.
Anyone who sends money to an unknown international account has simply proven PT Barnum right again: "there's a sucker born every minute. ".
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800 fc gps
Long time lurker, first time poster. Met this one recently, but wanted 800 for FC. Too much GPS for me. But she's real if any of you want to partake.
[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/b4d5f93e-dc2b-45f7-b1a8-b63c79ecff2a[/URL]
Looking to trade info about SBs? HMU.
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800 fc gps
[QUOTE=HollywoodGuy;5591809]I love some of the things girls say in their profiles.
"I am vegetarian and love sushi".[/QUOTE]Long time lurker, first time poster. Met this one, she's real, wants 800 for FC. Too much GPS for me. But, if any of you want to partake.
[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/b4d5f93e-dc2b-45f7-b1a8-b63c79ecff2a[/URL]
Looking to trade info about SBs? HMU.
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[QUOTE=TotalRecluse;5594024]Long time lurker, first time poster. Met this one recently, but wanted 800 for FC. Too much GPS for me. But she's real if any of you want to partake.
[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/b4d5f93e-dc2b-45f7-b1a8-b63c79ecff2a[/URL]
Looking to trade info about SBs? HMU.[/QUOTE]I think that's about one zero too many.
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Not worth the effort
[QUOTE=BigBear818;5585384]I hope so for her asking price. She's smoking hot though 😍.[/QUOTE]Saw her at LAX. BBFS was NOT an option. I offered good $$ am clean, fit and young and she still said no.
She IS the girl in the photos. Tit job is TERRIBLE. Super hard, not pretty. She had lots of scars. Skin was bad. Effort was sub-par. She was nice, don't get me wrong, but very mechanical. I wasn't into it.
She hit me up a few times for a repeat session, but I passed.