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[QUOTE=PhillUponThese;5583395]She definitely talks a good game and her English was damn near flawless when we spoke on the phone-I just decided to pass as she seemed too damn eager to meet up and was willing to drive pretty much anywhere I would tell her. Thanks for sharing.[/QUOTE]I will second that dead fish experience. It was like she wasn't even there.
[QUOTE=PussyPumper;5583434]I can never quite get my head about situations like this. This is what happens when guys neglect to practice even the most basic operational security.
I have dated scores of women off of SA, and talked to hundreds. To the best of my knowledge, none:
- Know my real name.
- Know my real telephone no.
- Know my address.
It is crazy to let an SB know any off these pieces of information. If you do, don't be surprised if she tries to use it.[/QUOTE]This is good advice, especially if you have a significant other. But single guys are willing to take the risk by bringing them to their place as it saves on having to pay for a room.
[QUOTE=Ginob;5583446]Has anyone met up with Alexis? We've gone back and forth this year, but she's available for $$ She might be my first mixed girl.[/QUOTE]This chick wanted 500 ppm and she ghosted me when I asked for 400.
[QUOTE=BigBear818;5584940]This chick wanted 500 ppm and she ghosted me when I asked for 400.[/QUOTE]5 is the correct number. She's come down from the 600 she quoted me earlier in the year.
[QUOTE=Ginob;5583446]Has anyone met up with Alexis? We've gone back and forth this year, but she's available for $$ She might be my first mixed girl.[/QUOTE]Bareback an option with her?
I second all that. Aliases, or wrong spellings of my name.
I do 99% car dates always, I got sunshades and window tint all around. Every now and then I'll get a room but I don't bring any girls over my house, ever unless I really trust them. I met a little hustler I posted about in the OC SB board that when she was with me her boyfriend was bugging her because her "location" was not on, just drama like that I don't need. My house is my sanctuary I want to keep mellow and peaceful. But, to each their own. I made an exception once or twice after hanging out with them a few times and knew they didn't have a boyfriend nearby, or checking their location. One I flew in from another city so not to worry about that one. Burners always.
Stay safe.
[QUOTE=JackMiles;5584102]This is good advice, especially if you have a significant other. But single guys are willing to take the risk by bringing them to their place as it saves on having to pay for a room.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=PussyDestroyr;5585242]Bareback an option with her?[/QUOTE]I hope so for her asking price. She's smoking hot though 😍.
[QUOTE=BigBear818;5584940]This chick wanted 500 ppm and she ghosted me when I asked for 400.[/QUOTE]I wonder what her normal outcall rates are.
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[QUOTE=JackMiles;5584102]This is good advice, especially if you have a significant other. But single guys are willing to take the risk by bringing them to their place as it saves on having to pay for a room.[/QUOTE]While the need to practice OpSec may be self-evident when you have an SO in the picture, I would argue that even single guys need to be careful:
- Are you affluent?
- Do you have a job where knowledge of your SA arrangements would cause reputational damage? (law, police, politics, secret clearance.).
- Significant social standing?
- Parents, children or friends who would disapprove or be hurt?
- Church membership?
And even if you don't have any of these factors now, what of 6 months or a few years from now?
We all see girls we've seen on the site before, and we've messaged back and forth with, but never got to the point of meeting, or maybe even of talking to them. Just texting, on the site or off it. Maybe she has seen your real pix. Perhaps they've been away from the site and you recognize them when they come back on. Or you've been away.
What is the best way to approach a girl in this instance? Remind her that you messaged her before and the interactions were good? Act like you are a total new SD trying to connect w / her?
[QUOTE=PhillUponThese;5583395]She definitely talks a good game and her English was damn near flawless when we spoke on the phone-I just decided to pass as she seemed too damn eager to meet up and was willing to drive pretty much anywhere I would tell her. Thanks for sharing.[/QUOTE]Glad I could help. Surprised her English was good on the phone, wasn't in person. Maybe she's just good on the intro points. Definitely shouldn't have been so eager to meet her when she was that eager for me. But I asked specific things and got assurances. Which she promptly ignored in person.
Also for the topic of everyone else talking BM, I have had a few things go sour. I just blocked them and they forgot about it or moved on.
The only ones that have thrown me for a real loop are the ones that suddenly ghost on the way! It leaves me wondering if they got cold feet or are going to try a heist / robbery at night. Never had anything happen though, just worries over it. I HAVE had girls that I saw several times take the amount that I left out for them early and run. So I learned to never leave anything out.
I just don't get those that try to cheap out for car dates or cheap the girl out and pay for a hotel. If it's your thing, great, but you're generally going to have less of a good time and run other risks with low quality.
Might post another thing or 2 down the road here before going quiet again for a few years, but just the ones I think you should avoid!
[QUOTE=Ajfff;5587173]Glad I could help. Surprised her English was good on the phone, wasn't in person. Maybe she's just good on the intro points. Definitely shouldn't have been so eager to meet her when she was that eager for me. But I asked specific things and got assurances. Which she promptly ignored in person.
Also for the topic of everyone else talking BM, I have had a few things go sour. I just blocked them and they forgot about it or moved on.
The only ones that have thrown me for a real loop are the ones that suddenly ghost on the way! It leaves me wondering if they got cold feet or are going to try a heist / robbery at night. Never had anything happen though, just worries over it. I HAVE had girls that I saw several times take the amount that I left out for them early and run. So I learned to never leave anything out.
I just don't get those that try to cheap out for car dates or cheap the girl out and pay for a hotel. If it's your thing, great, but you're generally going to have less of a good time and run other risks with low quality.
Might post another thing or 2 down the road here before going quiet again for a few years, but just the ones I think you should avoid![/QUOTE]That is exactly why you never provide your real address to someone you haven't even met yet. Chances are they already looked up your address on Google, and will case the place at their leisure.
Never leave any money in sight at the beginning of the date, never give money at the beginning of the date. Don't think like a trick, you are a Sugar Daddy. If you've already agreed upon an allowance, simply provide it at the end of the date. There's an old saying, "The prepaid musician plays a lousy tune. ".
A hotel is far more comfortable than a car date, and safer than your personal residence, especially for a first meet. Always have full control of the environment, don't meet at a place you don't recognize unless you have countermeasures in place, should things go sideways. Personally I don't book a hotel until I know we're heading to the FC. I set up a meet and greet in a public setting, and if the vibe is right, and she's DTF, then a few swipes on the phone and I've booked a room in a nice hotel. We'll simply walk over and have a great time.
Determining good vibes is a matter of personal perception and picking up on non-verbal cues. I've gone on dates where a girl verbalizes that she's DTF, but then doesn't maintain eye contact, shrinks away from friendly touch, or declines food, drink, or other offers. If she declines to kiss you before heading to the hotel, how can you expect things to go any better once you're there? Obviously moving forward in such a scenario will result in at best a lousy lay, or at worse a rob or other drama-laden situation.
[QUOTE=HappyJob;5581491]Talked to her and she's willing to meet up but wants half of the money upfront, told her not going to happen and left it at that.[/QUOTE]Too bad, but she was legit when I saw her, maybe 2 or 3 times.
[QUOTE=PussyPumper;5583426]Could you flesh that out, so to speak?
- Non cash gifts?
- Making sure she has her share of orgasms?
- Or?[/QUOTE]Could be good sex, or just doing mundane shit for them, or just be willing to hang out with them, maybe drive them somewhere, . All stuff once you know you are getting your share. Giving advice. Time is money. And a lot of guys don't give these girls any time. Some of them want that.
I like that saying about the musician!
[QUOTE=FirstClass1;5588379]That is exactly why you never provide your real address to someone you haven't even met yet. Chances are they already looked up your address on Google, and will case the place at their leisure.
Never leave any money in sight at the beginning of the date, never give money at the beginning of the date. Don't think like a trick, you are a Sugar Daddy. If you've already agreed upon an allowance, simply provide it at the end of the date. There's an old saying, "The prepaid musician plays a lousy tune. ".
A hotel is far more comfortable than a car date, and safer than your personal residence, especially for a first meet. Always have full control of the environment, don't meet at a place you don't recognize unless you have countermeasures in place, should things go sideways. Personally I don't book a hotel until I know we're heading to the FC. I set up a meet and greet in a public setting, and if the vibe is right, and she's DTF, then a few swipes on the phone and I've booked a room in a nice hotel. We'll simply walk over and have a great time.
Determining good vibes is a matter of personal perception and picking up on non-verbal cues. I've gone on dates where a girl verbalizes that she's DTF, but then doesn't maintain eye contact, shrinks away from friendly touch, or declines food, drink, or other offers. If she declines to kiss you before heading to the hotel, how can you expect things to go any better once you're there? Obviously moving forward in such a scenario will result in at best a lousy lay, or at worse a rob or other drama-laden situation.[/QUOTE]