Massage Parlor Reports

[QUOTE=LuckyMoney;1571627]Kind of spoils the media's portrayal though doesn't it?[/QUOTE]I do not deny that there is trafficking of women and children for the purposes of sexual exploitation and slavery; however, the more I learn about the Chinese slice of the AMP industry it is clear to me that most shops and girls do not fit that profile.

The girls have similar stories in China. Arranged marriage, a child, divorced. They come to the USA and find work in restaurants or nail salons for very low wages. They quickly find that giving massages with a little something extra at the end pays much better.

The girls tend to initially come from China to either LA or NYC. The NY contingent is certainly centered in Flushing / Queens. And on the west coast they are congregated in the area east of LA around Alhambra / Covina.

They develop friends, some from their home town in China and then from their first jobs in the US. They tend to stay at a given shop an average of 2-3 months. Then they will go "home" for a week or two, meaning to NY or LA. Every year or two they will go back to China for a visit, as long as their imigration status will allow it and ensure they can get back in. The next job is found thru their loose network of friends. As an aside, one thing to remember, they use the terms "sister" and "cousin", but they are not necessarily really related by blood or marriage. A sister could be a real sister, a cousin that they grew up with and are very close to, or just their best friend. Cousin has a similar broad range of meanings. There are also Chinese newspapers in many cities. They all share prospective leads. The best jobs are when a friend will scrape together savings to open a shop and become a "boss". Most of them want to open their own shops some day and are always looking for opportunities. One hang up is transportation. Many of then have a drivers license for I'd, but can't really drive. Having a friend or boy friend or American husband who can drive or actually being able to drive yourself is a huge benefit.

Some girls spend their money as soon as they make it. Clothes, gambling, vacation. Others send significant funds back to their families particularly if they have a child. Most of these women look like they are 20-30, but are actually 40-50. Their "kids" are late teens, early twenties and are looking to come to the US to go to college.

Several of the girls I know scraped together $100k or so (each) and went out and paid cash for houses in Las Vegas when the real estate market bottomed out there. I've actually gone to visit. Very nice houses. So LV has become the third epicenter for Chinese AMP girls.

I could go on. Hope this gives some insight.

One last thought... Chinese AMP girls have made lying an art form. Age. Name. Birth date. Children. True marital or relationship status.

YMMV

I used to KB on a fairly regular basis because her incall was located fairly close to my house. She has moved two or three times since then and it hasn't been nearly as convenient for me to stop by and see her. I was finally able to get to her current location and see her for a session.

Her new location is actually fairly easy to get to. I found plenty of parking on the street (even in the evening) , so that was a definite plus. She greeted me at the door with a hug, but it was obvious she didn't remember me at first. That was fine with me especially since she did begin to remember me after we talked for a while. Her massage has always been consistent. I opted for the 60 minute with the upsell and I left very happy. Others have described her release as mechanical and as a "death grip" but I had no problems with it and I found it to be very enjoyable. She allowed my hands to roam quite a bit and she seemed to be enjoying it.

I am not a huge fan of the AMP and there are certainly other providers out there that offer more for the money, but have always had a good time with KB and I will likely continue to go back. Unless of course, I can find someone closer to my house that can also provide me with such consistent service. The hunt continues for that seemingly elusive provider! LOL

[QUOTE=VAPilot; 1573792]I do not deny that there is trafficking of women and children for the purposes of sexual exploitation and slavery; however, the more I learn about the Chinese slice of the AMP industry it is clear to me that most shops and girls do not fit that profile.

The girls have similar stories in China. Arranged marriage, a child, divorced. They come to the USA and find work in restaurants or nail salons for very low wages. They quickly find that giving massages with a little something extra at the end pays much better.

The girls tend to initially come from China to either LA or NYC. The NY contingent is certainly centered in Flushing / Queens. And on the west coast they are congregated in the area east of LA around Alhambra / Covina.

They develop friends, some from their home town in China and then from their first jobs in the US. They tend to stay at a given shop an average of 2-3 months. Then they will go "home" for a week or two, meaning to NY or LA. Every year or two they will go back to China for a visit, as long as their imigration status will allow it and ensure they can get back in. The next job is found thru their loose network of friends. As an aside, one thing to remember, they use the terms "sister" and "cousin", but they are not necessarily really related by blood or marriage. A sister could be a real sister, a cousin that they grew up with and are very close to, or just their best friend. Cousin has a similar broad range of meanings. There are also Chinese newspapers in many cities. They all share prospective leads. The best jobs are when a friend will scrape together savings to open a shop and become a "boss". Most of them want to open their own shops some day and are always looking for opportunities. One hang up is transportation. Many of then have a drivers license for I'd, but can't really drive. Having a friend or boy friend or American husband who can drive or actually being able to drive yourself is a huge benefit.

Some girls spend their money as soon as they make it. Clothes, gambling, vacation. Others send significant funds back to their families particularly if they have a child. Most of these women look like they are 20-30, but are actually 40-50. Their "kids" are late teens, early twenties and are looking to come to the US to go to college.

Several of the girls I know scraped together $100k or so (each) and went out and paid cash for houses in Las Vegas when the real estate market bottomed out there. I've actually gone to visit. Very nice houses. So LV has become the third epicenter for Chinese AMP girls.

I could go on. Hope this gives some insight.

One last thought. Chinese AMP girls have made lying an art form. Age. Name. Birth date. Children. True marital or relationship status.

YMMV[/QUOTE]Very good breakdown of information. One thing, the Chinese gals are not the only ones who have made lying an art form. Our Korean providers certainly can compete with any and all when it comes to that!

[QUOTE=Ginger Man;1574475]Very good breakdown of information. One thing, the Chinese gals are not the only ones who have made lying an art form. Our Korean providers certainly can compete with any and all when it comes to that![/QUOTE]Isn't that part of what we pay them for? The best liars get the biggest tips from me!

[QUOTE=LuckyMoney;1574512]Isn't that part of what we pay them for? The best liars get the biggest tips from me![/QUOTE]Exactly! Most of the lies are for our benefit. When I go to an AMP I want to enjoy the fantasy and not get depressed by maybe a true to life sob story or other things. I know I am not the biggest or extremely handsome man but I don't mind hearing it.

[QUOTE=Ginger Man;1574475]Very good breakdown of information. One thing, the Chinese gals are not the only ones who have made lying an art form. Our Korean providers certainly can compete with any and all when it comes to that![/QUOTE]I'm sure it isn't isolated to Chinese. I was just being specific, because that is my point of reference.

The discussion of Thai girls is yet another story. I've had massages from Koreans and Japanese, but have not formed any lasting relationships.

Saw a rumor that ML was closed on another site. Went there to have a look, and the 'open' sign was off. I did not actually try knocking (a number of people were hanging around the entrance).but either the sign is dead or things don't look good. I also tried calling and no one picked up. Does anyone have any info?

I did wind up going to JHH. Seems like business as usual. I got a nice massage from "Dana" (she had a very friendly attitude. I recommend. Although nothing spectacular). She said she had been there about a week, and I could not understand what she said about how long she would be there.

[QUOTE=VAPilot; 1574652]I'm sure it isn't isolated to Chinese. I was just being specific, because that is my point of reference.

The discussion of Thai girls is yet another story. I've had massages from Koreans and Japanese, but have not formed any lasting relationships.[/QUOTE]With all due respect sir, it's highly unlikely that you were servied by a Japanese woman in this country. Many Korean women will claim to be Japanese, but likely are not. A few Korean women may even have lived and / or worked in Japan. For a while after WWII (while Japan was rebuilding its economy) some Japanese women were desperate enough to work in massage parlors and / or the sex industry. But today's Japanese women hold themselves to be above that sort of thing. Hell! Even in Korea, you will find very few bar girls who are Korean. Most of those jobs today are taken by Pinays.

LexLuther

[QUOTE=LexLuther; 1575711]With all due respect sir, it's highly unlikely that you were servied by a Japanese woman in this country. Many Korean women will claim to be Japanese, but likely are not. A few Korean women may even have lived and / or worked in Japan. For a while after WWII (while Japan was rebuilding its economy) some Japanese women were desperate enough to work in massage parlors and / or the sex industry. But today's Japanese women hold themselves to be above that sort of thing. Hell! Even in Korea, you will find very few bar girls who are Korean. Most of those jobs today are taken by Pinays.

LexLuther[/QUOTE]Ethnic Japanese. From Okinawa.

I've definitely had a few Pinay women. The most memorable was in Singapore...

[QUOTE=LexLuther; 1575711]With all due respect sir, it's highly unlikely that you were servied by a Japanese woman in this country. Many Korean women will claim to be Japanese, but likely are not. A few Korean women may even have lived and / or worked in Japan. For a while after WWII (while Japan was rebuilding its economy) some Japanese women were desperate enough to work in massage parlors and / or the sex industry. But today's Japanese women hold themselves to be above that sort of thing. Hell! Even in Korea, you will find very few bar girls who are Korean. Most of those jobs today are taken by Pinays.

LexLuther[/QUOTE]Actually Japanese providers are not all that uncommon. My experience with Today's Japanese women and yours seem to differ greatly. Hell in Japanese society today it is not consider cheating if one of the two people gets paid.

You can find them easier on the west coast however, but there are still a few around in this area, and I am sure they aren't Korean.

[QUOTE=ApthyCat; 1575518]Saw a rumor that ML was closed on another site. Went there to have a look, and the 'open' sign was off. I did not actually try knocking (a number of people were hanging around the entrance). But either the sign is dead or things don't look good. I also tried calling and no one picked up. Does anyone have any info?

I did wind up going to JHH. Seems like business as usual. I got a nice massage from "Dana" (she had a very friendly attitude. I recommend. Although nothing spectacular). She said she had been there about a week, and I could not understand what she said about how long she would be there.[/QUOTE]I tried to call them this evening and no answer, then I drove by to see that the sign was off and the lights were out. I hope this is only temporary, this happened before so let's keep our hopes up and with any luck things will be back to normal.

Just returned from checking out another establishment on Washington Blvd. It was about 1/2 hour prior to closing time so I only was able to get the 30 minute service. Called to see what time they were closing and they encouraged me to get there in a few minutes because they were closing 11pm on the dot. A nice and attractive provider answered the door when I arrived and asked was I the person who called. I told her yes and she smiled as she walked me back to a room. They actually had several rooms with sliding shoji screen style doors. I could hear a few customers and even saw the back of one being escorted out of the establishment. They seem to have a shower and all but because my time was so close to closing time, she said to come earlier next time to have that experience.

My provider name was Penny if I remember correctly. I gave her the 1/2 hour donation and tip up front. She left and shortly returned to begin our session. She gave a very good massage and was impressed with my back and leg muscles that seemed to tire her out. She kept laughing about how hard she had to work to massage me. She even stood on my back and used her feet to apply more pressure. We chit chatted a little during the service and she stated how much she liked me and servicing me. We seemed to get along well and she had a wonderful attitude. Even though the massage was very good, I could tell that she was moving a little faster than probably normal to make sure she was done before closing time. After a good back workout, the flip came and I must say that she was very skillful. She actually laid next to me on the table as she massaged my muscle. She then decided to sit on top of me and massaged my muscle with both of her hands until I was completely relaxed and happy. She finished up with and neck, temple and face massage. It was a very nice experience and I wished I would have arrived earlier to get an hour of service with a shower. I would rate the experience to be an 8 out of 10. The provider was also an 8 in my opinion and was approximately in her late 20's. I will probably be going back very soon. Happy Hunting!

[QUOTE=Brahmabull; 1575739]Actually Japanese providers are not all that uncommon. My experience with Today's Japanese women and yours seem to differ greatly. Hell in Japanese society today it is not consider cheating if one of the two people gets paid.

You can find them easier on the west coast however, but there are still a few around in this area, and I am sure they aren't Korean.[/QUOTE]Ok Brahmabull. So tell me (via PM if you wish) where I can find one of the local Japanese please. And please provide a name as well as the establishment.

LexLuther

There was a place on RT 40 west that was open for a very short time who claimed Japanese women in the add in the City Paper but the women were Chinese. I have not come across and Japanese women in the AMP business.

[QUOTE=Satya;1577123]There was a place on RT 40 west that was open for a very short time who claimed Japanese women in the add in the City Paper but the women were Chinese. I have not come across and Japanese women in the AMP business.[/QUOTE]Has anyone run across a Thai provider? Any old timers remember the place on briggs chaney. There was a 5'10" 120lb thai model who worked there.