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[QUOTE=Jlima;3359952]Thanks may have to give it a try a good real masssage sounds relaxing.
Has anyone been to Ivy lately. Has the service / talent improved?[/QUOTE]Expect the typical Korean spa. $80 for an hour etc. A lot of traffic, usually busy (which usually mean sone thing). Expect some talent there to.
Expect negotiation and payment up front.
I wonder what would happen over time if their was refusal to tip before hand.
[QUOTE=GMan25;3360549]Expect the typical Korean spa. $80 for an hour etc. A lot of traffic, usually busy (which usually mean sone thing). Expect some talent there to.
Expect negotiation and payment up front.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=DMichaels69;3360837]I wonder what would happen over time if their was refusal to tip before hand.[/QUOTE]Overall it would make for better service, but it will never happen. By that time too many guys are thinking and listening to the wrong head.
-w.
[QUOTE=Wenger;3361798]Overall it would make for better service, but it will never happen. By that time too many guys are thinking and listening to the wrong head.
-w.[/QUOTE]The non confrontational approach is to vote with your feet.
[QUOTE=GMan25;3360549]Expect the typical Korean spa. $80 for an hour etc. A lot of traffic, usually busy (which usually mean sone thing). Expect some talent there to.
Expect negotiation and payment up front.[/QUOTE]Wonder if this was came to be because they had gotten burned one to many times? Not saying it is right or wrong, just thinking out loud.
That's possible. I've heard of guys doing this before.
Maybe a half before half after option is better.
[QUOTE=BlueUc;3363070]Wonder if this was came to be because they had gotten burned one to many times? Not saying it is right or wrong, just thinking out loud.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Jlima;3363103]That's possible. I've heard of guys doing this before.
Maybe a half before half after option is better.[/QUOTE]It's a combination of two things. They demand the tip upfront to avoid getting burned. And, because customers are far more likely to pay and pay more while still all revved up.
You know it's interesting. In our shop Mei started out with the idea of collecting the house fee up front, but now, for regulars, at least half the time, we collect everything at the end. Sometimes, if it is busy and the customer is waiting, I'll collect up front just to save time. But we never ever have payment issues. The first month we opened we had a few knuckleheads who tried for extras and then after striking out left zero tip. We try very hard to make sure the customer knows we are legit so there is no misunderstanding.
So to respond to your point, Blue, I bet a few customers have burned them. I wonder if they have a LOT of dissatisfied customers who then gripe and refuse to pay.
[QUOTE=BlueUc;3363070]Wonder if this was came to be because they had gotten burned one to many times? Not saying it is right or wrong, just thinking out loud.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Bob521;3363986]You know it's interesting. In our shop Mei started out with the idea of collecting the house fee up front, but now, for regulars, at least half the time, we collect everything at the end. Sometimes, if it is busy and the customer is waiting, I'll collect up front just to save time. But we never ever have payment issues. The first month we opened we had a few knuckleheads who tried for extras and then after striking out left zero tip. We try very hard to make sure the customer knows we are legit so there is no misunderstanding.
So to respond to your point, Blue, I bet a few customers have burned them. I wonder if they have a LOT of dissatisfied customers who then gripe and refuse to pay.[/QUOTE]The time based door fee up front plus tip after the massage sounds like the right thing to do.
[QUOTE=Bob521;3363986]You know it's interesting. In our shop Mei started out with the idea of collecting the house fee up front, but now, for regulars, at least half the time, we collect everything at the end. Sometimes, if it is busy and the customer is waiting, I'll collect up front just to save time. But we never ever have payment issues. The first month we opened we had a few knuckleheads who tried for extras and then after striking out left zero tip. We try very hard to make sure the customer knows we are legit so there is no misunderstanding.
So to respond to your point, Blue, I bet a few customers have burned them. I wonder if they have a LOT of dissatisfied customers who then gripe and refuse to pay.[/QUOTE]Hi Bob, Just want to tell others, I've been to your place, not a regular, yet, but I did receive a great massage from Mei. I do plan on returning. Although, not expensive, it gets to be when you've been laid off from the job. I'm an old Army vet, so like McArthur, I shall return.
[QUOTE=Bob521;3363986]You know it's interesting. In our shop Mei started out with the idea of collecting the house fee up front, but now, for regulars, at least half the time, we collect everything at the end. Sometimes, if it is busy and the customer is waiting, I'll collect up front just to save time. But we never ever have payment issues. The first month we opened we had a few knuckleheads who tried for extras and then after striking out left zero tip. We try very hard to make sure the customer knows we are legit so there is no misunderstanding.
So to respond to your point, Blue, I bet a few customers have burned them. I wonder if they have a LOT of dissatisfied customers who then gripe and refuse to pay.[/QUOTE]My friend who works at a legit AMP tells me about a number of people who don't want to pay full price if extras aren't on the table and a number of times I've seen her collect a tip for another girl who's afraid to piss off the customer. Many of these girls make their main money from tips the house probably takes a cut from that also on top of charging for room and board, phone bills, food, etc. The more I understand their plight the more I understand the tip aspect for them, that being said if you get a crap massage let them know by asking for a different Mt for that reason. There will be a leveling out of sorts in the near future for talent but right now many of the Mt send money back to family for educational purposes so their kids don't have to be in the business. There will always be many that will work for the love of the job and pay but in the meantime there is going to be the transitional phase we are seeing.
Has anybody ever had a session with Ruby at Ivy? I just wanted to know because I was there the other day and I ended up pulling her. She had given me my table shower and just started the massage when another monger came in and was pretty loudly demanding Ruby. So they pulled the switch on me, and I have to say I wasn't disappointed at all. Now Ruby is very nice on the eyes, but I just want to know what does she do that will make a grown man throw a tantrum until he see's her. You can PM me with details and we can trade war stories.
Sounds like this idiot 6th grader throws a lot of cash her way, otherwise they probably would not have switched.
[QUOTE=Starks;3365227]Has anybody ever had a session with Ruby at Ivy? I just wanted to know because I was there the other day and I ended up pulling her. She had given me my table shower and just started the massage when another monger came in and was pretty loudly demanding Ruby. So they pulled the switch on me, and I have to say I wasn't disappointed at all. Now Ruby is very nice on the eyes, but I just want to know what does she do that will make a grown man throw a tantrum until he see's her. You can PM me with details and we can trade war stories.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=DMichaels69;3365319]Sounds like this idiot 6th grader throws a lot of cash her way, otherwise they probably would not have switched.[/QUOTE]Sorry I haven't seen her, but reports I have read say she is easy on the eyes ((not a shock) but nothing that would make her stand out vs other providers. My guess is that the person demanding Ruby, was a very consistent regular that gets that kind of service. However, nothing bothers me more than the big mouth loud talking douche that comes in and.
Disturbs everyone else.
Thanks for your business and your kind words. Please don't feel obligated to leave a large tip. Just be nice and she will appreciate your kindness.
Also, note that she gives a lot of money to the homeless guys she sees in Chicago. We take piles of singles and hand out money to guys in bad shape. Her kindness has really opened my eyes.
To end on a lighter note, yesterday, Tuesday is our rest day. We drove down Sheridan road past the mansions. She went Gaga, pointing at the houses yelling "beautiful! I want that one! Oh. I want that one! " . I think I'm corrupting the poor girl.
[QUOTE=AmpingAround;3364135]Hi Bob, Just want to tell others, I've been to your place, not a regular, yet, but I did receive a great massage from Mei. I do plan on returning. Although, not expensive, it gets to be when you've been laid off from the job. I'm an old Army vet, so like McArthur, I shall return.[/QUOTE]
I saw her the other week and yes she is attractive and very friendly and gets into it but from the talent I saw there I would assume you could get the same service from whomever is there. Normal Korean experience to me. Current talent seems to be very nice but they may push for the extra tip.
[QUOTE=GMan25;3365644]Sorry I haven't seen her, but reports I have read say she is easy on the eyes ((not a shock) but nothing that would make her stand out vs other providers. My guess is that the person demanding Ruby, was a very consistent regular that gets that kind of service. However, nothing bothers me more than the big mouth loud talking douche that comes in and.
Disturbs everyone else.[/QUOTE]
Just left the place. MT was named Aileen. Kind of hustler. Massage was lame, so do other services, even table shower. I would avoid her. Saw other girl hanging around, when I was walking out.
Drove by Cove the other day. Closed on vacation for a few days.
I had a little free time the other night so I swung by Ivy but was told it to come back in 30 minutes. I figured I'd grab a drink and go back but as I was leaving some guy going into a restaurant down the strip was paying too much attention to my car so I thought better to be safe than sorry so I decided I would try another place that night.
I've seen the bad reviews about Lane but figured I'm older and age is relative so maybe it won't be so bad. I went up and was greeted by grandma she took me to a room and said she would give the shower but someone younger would give my massage. After the shower I did meet the younger woman, she was younger than the other woman but I still think older than me. I get the massage and after I flip she starts negotiating. She wanted more than my normal offer for a handshake, I gave a little more but said it had to be topless. She agreed and said only because I was the last customer of the night, then ended up taking everything off. I don't think I'll be back, I've had better experiences at other places.
Worst place to go. Should be on everyone's avoid list.
[QUOTE=LetsPlay2;3371548]I had a little free time the other night so I swung by Ivy but was told it to come back in 30 minutes. I figured I'd grab a drink and go back but as I was leaving some guy going into a restaurant down the strip was paying too much attention to my car so I thought better to be safe than sorry so I decided I would try another place that night.
I've seen the bad reviews about Lane but figured I'm older and age is relative so maybe it won't be so bad. I went up and was greeted by grandma she took me to a room and said she would give the shower but someone younger would give my massage. After the shower I did meet the younger woman, she was younger than the other woman but I still think older than me. I get the massage and after I flip she starts negotiating. She wanted more than my normal offer for a handshake, I gave a little more but said it had to be topless. She agreed and said only because I was the last customer of the night, then ended up taking everything off. I don't think I'll be back, I've had better experiences at other places.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=DMichaels69;3372117]Worst place to go. Should be on everyone's avoid list.[/QUOTE]Deep down I knew that but I was letting the wrong head to the thinking. .
[QUOTE=IndianChief;3368775]Just left the place. MT was named Aileen. Kind of hustler. Massage was lame, so do other services, even table shower. I would avoid her. Saw other girl hanging around, when I was walking out.[/QUOTE]I called there yesterday and was told they have a new lineup. I'm not sure if Aileen is part of this new lineup or not, but I think I will avoid until I hear better reports.
Stopped at Ivy the other day and I'm on the fence about it. Cover charge is a little high at $80 and no choice for 30/60. But, the mamasan was very friendly. Actually I've never encountered a rude one but I've had a few that just took me to the room, asked for the cash, told me to undress and left. This lady actually stuck around and bullshitted for a minute. The room was clean with fresh towels on the table and and bed. I did have an unusual wait time of around 10-15 minutes but when my girl walked in I was pleasantly surprised. The first thing that popped in my mind was I hope she offers FS. Young girl I'd say about 25. The massage was great (for the most part) but she got a little firm at times. But nice and soft in all the right places. The flip turned into a back and forth with her and FS was not on the table (so to speak). Bottom line I left happily relaxed. I would go back for the talent but not sure if it would be a regular. On a side note I'm going to give an escort a try. It's a new area to me and I may need some advice. Since I'm relatively new around here (long time lurker first time reviewer LOL) I may need some advice. What section do I post questions in?
[QUOTE=DocDan;3372995]Stopped at Ivy the other day and I'm on the fence about it. Cover charge is a little high at $80 and no choice for 30/60. But, the mamasan was very friendly. Actually I've never encountered a rude one but I've had a few that just took me to the room, asked for the cash, told me to undress and left. This lady actually stuck around and bullshitted for a minute. The room was clean with fresh towels on the table and and bed. I did have an unusual wait time of around 10-15 minutes but when my girl walked in I was pleasantly surprised. The first thing that popped in my mind was I hope she offers FS. Young girl I'd say about 25. The massage was great (for the most part) but she got a little firm at times. But nice and soft in all the right places. The flip turned into a back and forth with her and FS was not on the table (so to speak). Bottom line I left happily relaxed. I would go back for the talent but not sure if it would be a regular. On a side note I'm going to give an escort a try. It's a new area to me and I may need some advice. Since I'm relatively new around here (long time lurker first time reviewer LOL) I may need some advice. What section do I post questions in?[/QUOTE]You say you are looking to give an escort a try, and so I'll give a little advice. If you like Asians, and the massage experience, look for an agency like AX, Wisterio, or Oriental Thai. You may have to go through some screening, but you will find some really fine asian women. They usually offer 1/2 hour rates or 45 minutes rates in addition to an hour. I usually go for the hour (I've used Oriental Thai). $200 and a beautiful asian (usually thai) will shower with you, give you a BBBJCIM, then give you a nice massage, then CFS (at least that's my experience). Then another shower after. By far the best thing.
If you don't want to travel to Chicago for those agencies, you may find some on Eros, or check Backpage, to find some in the Western Suburbs. I have not tried any in Lombard area, but have in other cities in the area. On Backpage you won't find the same level of service (no MSOG usually) and the prices are about $120 to $140 for hhr and $160 or $180 for hr. There are many that advertise in the Western Suburbs, but it may take a while to find the right one. You may find some asians in their 30's, but they are usually good looking, and will give you a decent massage then CFS. I think they skip the massage for the 1/2 hour rates. I have done two appointments at the 1/2 and that was my experience.
One positive about these services is that you know the price up front and there is no haggling over services or money. If you want MSOG, you treat them right and throw some extra cash at them.
I hope this helps.
[QUOTE=ReadyFreddie;3373196]You say you are looking to give an escort a try, and so I'll give a little advice. If you like Asians, and the massage experience, look for an agency like AX, Wisterio, or Oriental Thai. You may have to go through some screening, but you will find some really fine asian women. They usually offer 1/2 hour rates or 45 minutes rates in addition to an hour. I usually go for the hour (I've used Oriental Thai). $200 and a beautiful asian (usually thai) will shower with you, give you a BBBJCIM, then give you a nice massage, then CFS (at least that's my experience). Then another shower after. By far the best thing.
If you don't want to travel to Chicago for those agencies, you may find some on Eros, or check Backpage, to find some in the Western Suburbs. I have not tried any in Lombard area, but have in other cities in the area. On Backpage you won't find the same level of service (no MSOG usually) and the prices are about $120 to $140 for hhr and $160 or $180 for hr. There are many that advertise in the Western Suburbs, but it may take a while to find the right one. You may find some asians in their 30's, but they are usually good looking, and will give you a decent massage then CFS. I think they skip the massage for the 1/2 hour rates. I have done two appointments at the 1/2 and that was my experience.
One positive about these services is that you know the price up front and there is no haggling over services or money. If you want MSOG, you treat them right and throw some extra cash at them.
I hope this helps.[/QUOTE]Thanks Fred, that helps a lot. Very good information. Most of what I know about escorts comes from a buddy who was big into it with room service 2000. Don't even know if there still around? You pointed me in the right directions at the very least. My biggest fear is getting ripped off or even getting accused of ripping off the broad and then her guy jumps me. I know that's some wild shit but who knows. Just how I'm thinking. As far as the type of girl I'm not stuck primarily on Asians and open to different flavors. I did find a cute black chick who was advertising in the western burbs but haven't seen anything recent. There was also a sexy Latina but things seemed a little fishy. Almost like the photos weren't really of her. Both were on BP. Thanks again for the info. I'll let the group know how it goes.
Sounds like negotiations happened. Hopefully you were not to heavily extorted.
[QUOTE=DocDan;3372995]Stopped at Ivy the other day and I'm on the fence about it. Cover charge is a little high at $80 and no choice for 30/60. But, the mamasan was very friendly. Actually I've never encountered a rude one but I've had a few that just took me to the room, asked for the cash, told me to undress and left. This lady actually stuck around and bullshitted for a minute. The room was clean with fresh towels on the table and and bed. I did have an unusual wait time of around 10-15 minutes but when my girl walked in I was pleasantly surprised. The first thing that popped in my mind was I hope she offers FS. Young girl I'd say about 25. The massage was great (for the most part) but she got a little firm at times. But nice and soft in all the right places. The flip turned into a back and forth with her and FS was not on the table (so to speak). Bottom line I left happily relaxed. I would go back for the talent but not sure if it would be a regular. On a side note I'm going to give an escort a try. It's a new area to me and I may need some advice. Since I'm relatively new around here (long time lurker first time reviewer LOL) I may need some advice. What section do I post questions in?[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=DMichaels69;3373727]Sounds like negotiations happened. Hopefully you were not to heavily extorted.[/QUOTE]Not too bad. Funny though, because that's what I thought at first. I thought she was going to say she'd go for the BJ but for $$ or more.
[QUOTE=DocDan;3373346]Thanks Fred, that helps a lot. Very good information. Most of what I know about escorts comes from a buddy who was big into it with room service 2000. Don't even know if there still around? You pointed me in the right directions at the very least. My biggest fear is getting ripped off or even getting accused of ripping off the broad and then her guy jumps me. I know that's some wild shit but who knows. Just how I'm thinking. As far as the type of girl I'm not stuck primarily on Asians and open to different flavors. I did find a cute black chick who was advertising in the western burbs but haven't seen anything recent. There was also a sexy Latina but things seemed a little fishy. Almost like the photos weren't really of her. Both were on BP. Thanks again for the info. I'll let the group know how it goes.[/QUOTE]Room Service. Advertising and Verification Services.
I recommend them to anyone. Especially if you are concerned about the "rip-off" risk. RS-AVS screens / verifies the ladies as well as the guys. Everyone in their circle has good intentions. Nice way to start and the membership will give ladies a certain comfort level with you right out of the gate.
Doc,
If you spend some time reading the forum and doing some research, you will increase your chances of avoiding the girls that will rip you off or who have pimps to jump you. From what I have seen, there are some on BP who may do that, and there are reports in the Chicago Boards about many of those. I try to find girls who have been reviewed or who someone here has seen without incident. Luckily, I have not had any problems with having a guy jump me or anything like that, and I have not had any rip offs in quite some time, and I can credit a lot of that to this place. I am getting to learn that you probably will not have many problems at establishments that have been around and that are getting repeat business, or even the asian ads you see on Backpage. While you may not get the girl in the picture, they probably will not rob you as that would hurt their business. Of course, anything can happen in this business. Good luck and stay safe!
[QUOTE=DocDan;3373346]Thanks Fred, that helps a lot. Very good information. Most of what I know about escorts comes from a buddy who was big into it with room service 2000. Don't even know if there still around? You pointed me in the right directions at the very least. My biggest fear is getting ripped off or even getting accused of ripping off the broad and then her guy jumps me. I know that's some wild shit but who knows. Just how I'm thinking. As far as the type of girl I'm not stuck primarily on Asians and open to different flavors. I did find a cute black chick who was advertising in the western burbs but haven't seen anything recent. There was also a sexy Latina but things seemed a little fishy. Almost like the photos weren't really of her. Both were on BP. Thanks again for the info. I'll let the group know how it goes.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=DMichaels69;3372117]Worst place to go. Should be on everyone's avoid list.[/QUOTE]
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I want to say this carefully so no one gets the wrong idea: Posting the names, mugshots, case status, incarceration status and/or the release dates of people who have been arrested for engaging in commercial sex activities is really just helping the police in their efforts to embarrass these people.
Since this website is all about assisting people in obtaining commercial sex services, we don't want to add to the problems of the unfortunate people who have been arrested by publishing their names, mugshots, case status, incarceration status, or release dates.
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[QUOTE=Wirelessone;3376670][URL]http://chicago.suntimes.com/news/women-arrested-in-undercover-sting-at-lombard-spa/[/URL][/QUOTE]That sucks. Where do I go now. At least I'm able to save a pic of "Daisy".
The pictures are Daisy and who else?
[QUOTE=AlTango21;3376714]That sucks. Where do I go now. At least I'm able to save a pic of "Daisy".[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Wirelessone;3376670][URL]http://chicago.suntimes.com/news/women-arrested-in-undercover-sting-at-lombard-spa/[/URL][/QUOTE]I think that this is first time I have seen pics after an arrest and pissed I did not visit.
Guys-.
Totally out of the loop and looking for a recommendation. Looking for a nice hard massage, basic ending, no bs. What's good in the west burbs? Best bang for the buck. Thanks all for everything over the years!
They are both attractive ladies.
[QUOTE=AlMelrose;3377362]I think that this is first time I have seen pics after an arrest and pissed I did not visit.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=DMichaels69;3377185]The pictures are Daisy and who else?[/QUOTE]Looks like Jade.
[QUOTE=AlMelrose;3377362]I think that this is first time I have seen pics after an arrest and pissed I did not visit.[/QUOTE]With all the bad things going on this is what they waste our tax dollars on.
[QUOTE=Wirelessone;3376670][URL]http://chicago.suntimes.com/news/women-arrested-in-undercover-sting-at-lombard-spa/[/URL][/QUOTE]Dang. Was there 2 weeks ago. They seemed to be very on it with their screening, they gave me the third degree. I went through a good 10 minutes of grilling. When I said I had been there about a year ago they went on and on asking why I haven't been back sooner, and were I have been going since. When I told them United until they closed that seemed to put them at ease. But being so busy, they were busy as hell when I went, it was only a matter of time before they closed. And I sure one of those girls in the picture is Ruby.