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She has an ad on Cleveland bp massage section today. Her fee for 1 hour is $ and wants tip of $ on top of fee. Does any one know her? She works on Tues Thurs and Sat. What makes her worth more than the going rate? I also have a question about Sun punch card I was there last Friday and paid 40 plus coupon for 1 hour and tipped girl $ did not get offered punch card.
Happy Mongering
Stopped by 4S and did the typical first rate 30 minute spin with Lisa the other day. As we were playing around she implied they have a room with a big bed and that you can arrange for a long stay type of appointment. Multi-pops, maybe multi-girl would be interesting.
Is this possible? Sounds expensive? Or am I just totally off base?
Thanks for any insight.
[QUOTE=Mister Hank]Stopped by 4S and did the typical first rate 30 minute spin with Lisa the other day. As we were playing around she implied they have a room with a big bed and that you can arrange for a long stay type of appointment. Multi-pops, maybe multi-girl would be interesting.
Is this possible? Sounds expensive? Or am I just totally off base?
Thanks for any insight.[/QUOTE]
Tell mamasan you want room #1. That is the room with the larger bed.
Unless that room is in use that is the only one I use. much nicer for a two girl session.
Play safe.
What do you mean CIM, I think? You either had it or not buddy, and I been to 4S a couple of times and both sessions were with Yoko. She and I am sure the other girls would never accept CIM. I was with Yoko and she did some BBBJ and then CBJ and CFS. She enjoys DATY! But brother, don't say I think, man, say I did! Latteee
[QUOTE=Rafficax]Never been to Sun/Tokyo, been 2x to 4S, Yoko & Lisa, I think.
I tipped.8 for BJ, Yoko was hot, nice TS, back to room for main event, she did BBBJ & seemed to enjoy my DATY. Finished w/CIM, I think, and back massage, a nice way to spend an hour.
Lisa was short, small boobs but firm, I tipped.8 for BJ, had nice TS, then short time alone in sauna to warm up, then back to room, she covered me for BJ start, then after I did some DATY, she went back to BJ, then asked if she could ride. Still covered, I said go ahead, had a nice ride, then she finished w/BJ, and back massage. Nice way to spend an hour.
I don't know I want to try Sun/Tokyo, knowing I can probly get repeat of either of the above at 4S. It's been maybe 2months since most recent visit w/ Lisa?
Thougths?[/QUOTE]
Has anyon ever been to Moon night in Warren?
I keep seeing stuff saying grand opening, just wondering if it's worth my time!
Any info would be greatly appreciated!
Would the ladies at Four Seasons mind if I drink a 6 pack before I arrive?
I drank a few before I went to Lily Spa and they were like " you drinky tonite!" They let me stay but they made an issue.
[QUOTE=Problem Child]Would the ladies at Four Seasons mind if I drink a 6 pack before I arrive?
I drank a few before I went to Lily Spa and they were like " you drinky tonite!" They let me stay but they made an issue.[/QUOTE]
I am sure most AMPS would rather have sober clients.
Since their business is to produce happy endings of various sorts, they would probably oppose this. While "drinky" can put a person in the mood, it can also make it harder to produce that happy ending. The HE becomes more labor intensive, and therefore worker productivity declines. This is bad for business and the bottom line.
[QUOTE=Archie Pitcar]Since their business is to produce happy endings of various sorts, they would probably oppose this. While "drinky" can put a person in the mood, it can also make it harder to produce that happy ending. The HE becomes more labor intensive, and therefore worker productivity declines. This is bad for business and the bottom line.[/QUOTE]
Not to mention...drunks can be offensive without realizing.
[QUOTE=Simon J77]Has anyon ever been to Moon night in Warren?
I keep seeing stuff saying grand opening, just wondering if it's worth my time!
Any info would be greatly appreciated![/QUOTE]
I think I read that they have sofas in the rooms / mirrors on the walls. Any recent reports?
Have made a couple visits to 4S this past month. I didn't report before because there was really nothing new.
Saw Lisa/Mickie...great as ever.
Saw Kay one night when I asked for Lisa, the mama told me she was off that night but "other Lisa" was there. Then Kay came to the room.
Both are great, different types. But both still good as ever. I just avoid Yoko there, because I had a couple less than enthusiastic performances from her. Not really bad, just not as good as Lisa or Kay.
The extended session mentioned in the earlier post sounds like something different. I have used the room with the bed before. The bed is nice because it is bigger than the table, but I like the height of the tables. Anybody getting threesome or overnights?
Don't normally post alot but, as I was making my way back south for the Winter, I stopped by 4S to meet this Lisa everyone raves about. All I can say is HOLY $#it! You guys got a gem there! Very hot, very cool, dirty mouthed girl there. Wish we had one like her in San Antonio. Thanks for the good direction in your forum.
Mugg
[QUOTE=Squiggy]The extended session mentioned in the earlier post sounds like something different. I have used the room with the bed before. The bed is nice because it is bigger than the table, but I like the height of the tables. Anybody getting threesome or overnights?[/QUOTE]
Never did an over night though Lisa eggs me on and says "you stay a f*ck us all night okay?" Last two times I was there I had threesomes with Lisa and Kay. Both times I came away very happy. Normal door fee plus $.80 is typically what I offer. Just thinking about it makes me feel like trying to schedule a trip out there.
Play safe
AG
It seems like 4 seasons has the same 3 girls all the time.
Do they ever get any new girls?
Still waiting to hear on Gemini Spa.
Happy Mongering
[QUOTE=Book Man]It seems like 4 seasons has the same 3 girls all the time.
Do they ever get any new girls?
Still waiting to hear on Gemini Spa.
Happy Mongering[/QUOTE]
That's why I stick with 4S. I like dependable service. Even Yoko, who is not my favorite, is pretty good, and is better than the last one I had (Sunny- I think) at Tokyo.
Tokyo was my favorite for a long time. I liked the parking in the back, the mirrors in the rooms. But they always rotated the staff, few stayed long, and ALMOST EVERY TIME I got a new girl they tried to hit me for at least another 20. Then often, whether I paid the 20 or not, I got mediocre or poor treatment.
Kind of the same, not quite as bad for me at Sun. It's been a couple years since I've been to Sun, had some great ones there, but some poor and mediocre ones too. In a previous post Bookman, you said they tried to get more from you. That stuff rarely happens to me at 4S. When it has, I've tried to switch to Sun, Tokyo, Hong Kong and others but keep going back to 4S. Safer neighborhood, clean bigger rooms, very very rarely hassled for more money. Often offered an extra girl for a reasonable tip.
Keeping the same girls is not a bad thing to me because they get to know me, and I know what I am getting, and they know what I want and how I will treat them. I know some guys get to know the mama, and they "break the ice" with he ladies for them, especially at Sun. But I have not gone there enough. Sometimes I kinda think I should switch because I hear good things from guys who are regulars there and being a regular there has its perks.
Just my 2 cents...
Squiggy's right. The employees at 4S operate as if they're professional, trained, independent contractors paid on salary. The much nicer building and rooms probably plays a role in that, too. The only downside is there isn't much turnover.
Tokyo, OTOH, seems more like the employees are paid hourly and aren't as trained or experienced. The working conditions aren't as nice or spacious as 4S, and the service and staff are much more inconsistant and transient. There's more variety at Tokyo than 4S but that often means poorer performance, too.
It's sort of like the difference between a fast-food restaurant and a good, regular sit-down place with waitresses. You rarely see the same counter people in a fast-food place over a period of time, whereas the employees waiting tables at a restaurant usually stick around a bit longer.
Sun is somewhere in-between. The service is often (but not always) as good as 4S, plus there's some variety.
[QUOTE=Rudiger]Squiggy's right. The employees at 4S operate as if they're professional, trained, independent contractors paid on salary. The much nicer building and rooms probably plays a role in that, too. The only downside is there isn't much turnover.
Tokyo, OTOH, seems more like the employees are paid hourly and aren't as trained or experienced. The working conditions aren't as nice or spacious as 4S, and the service and staff are much more inconsistant and transient. There's more variety at Tokyo than 4S but that often means poorer performance, too.
It's sort of like the difference between a fast-food restaurant and a good, regular sit-down place with waitresses. You rarely see the same counter people in a fast-food place over a period of time, whereas the employees waiting tables at a restaurant usually stick around a bit longer.
Sun is somewhere in-between. The service is often (but not always) as good as 4S, plus there's some variety.[/QUOTE]How true,but i prefer Sun overall.
I have a question for you guys going to any other AMP than 4 seasons. What are you tipping for a 1 hour session? I have a gut feeling that many are tipping more than $ plus door cover. Is this what you guys getting the punch card are paying? I understand a large number of AMP visitors do not read this forum so I would like to know if $ is the tip at all other AMPs the mongers here pay.
Thanks,
Happy Mongering
[QUOTE=Book Man]I have a question for you guys going to any other AMP than 4 seasons. What are you tipping for a 1 hour session? I have a gut feeling that many are tipping more than $ plus door cover. Is this what you guys getting the punch card are paying? I understand a large number of AMP visitors do not read this forum so I would like to know if $ is the tip at all other AMPs the mongers here pay.
Thanks,
Happy Mongering[/QUOTE]
I have been going to Tokyo for years and have had 1 card and have always just tipped $, same as when I have been to 4s. I used that free card last may or june and have not gotten another. I have never had them ask for more at Tokyo. Several times I haven't got up to pay tip until on the way out, but I've known the mamason since she was working the rooms. Stay safe
There is almost no turn over at this AMP. I have seen the same three girls for the past atleast two years. I have zero problem with that because all three are outstanding.
[QUOTE=Book Man]I have a question for you guys going to any other AMP than 4 seasons. What are you tipping for a 1 hour session? I have a gut feeling that many are tipping more than $ plus door cover. Is this what you guys getting the punch card are paying? I understand a large number of AMP visitors do not read this forum so I would like to know if $ is the tip at all other AMPs the mongers here pay.
Thanks,
Happy Mongering[/QUOTE]
Was at the Tokyo a few weeks ago and asked for Hanna. Even though I'd never seen her before I convinced her that I did. I laid down a $ on the table in the room. When she came in she picked it up, counted it, and said "hundred was what you paid last time you were here" and that was the end of it. It was still sitting there when I was leaving, never asked for any more.
The last time I was at the Sun, the girl clearly stated that it was 120, non negotiable. Other times that I was there I put down $ and it was never questioned.
I think the best thing to do is to put down $ right when you get there. If she asks for more, tell her that's what you paid last time. If she insists on more then you have to make a decision, give her more or walk and be out the door fee which is usually 40 with the coupon from the newspaper.
[QUOTE=Mickey7]If she insists on more then you have to make a decision, give her more or walk and be out the door fee[/QUOTE]Or tell her to send in a different girl. It will tick her off, but she'll accept the $.
Hi Book,
I have been going to gemini for years and dominique has been there the whole time. she is a bigger girl but a real sweet heart. you get a happy ending only at gemini. They have the same line up that is standard, michelle is a black girl that is nice, britney is the best looking but still on the thicker side, others come and go pretty quickly. I think they run the "friendlier" girls out. I never tip the door fee. I am just not a fan of the asians. I wish there was a place we could get american FS.
BS
[QUOTE=Bad Sport]I never tip the door fee.[/QUOTE]I haven't been there since it was Bella Spa. Back then the girls expected a tip equal to half the door fee you paid. The door fee for a half hour was 60 and the girls expected a 30 tip. Do the girls now expect a tip equal to the full door fee?
Is this a new toy box that is opening up or just recycled? Who's going to be the 1st to take one for team AMP? They are both on Parkman. How close is it to Tokyo?
It's recycled, used to be the Paradise Spa.
Never been there though.
[QUOTE=Gdlint]Is this a new toy box that is opening up or just recycled? Who's going to be the 1st to take one for team AMP? They are both on Parkman. How close is it to Tokyo?[/QUOTE]
Forgot to add that it is about 1 mile from Tokyo, closer to Warren on the same side of the road.
Fuji is the old Paradise. In fact, a couple weeks ago, I think that both signs were out front.
Saw Lisa yesterday, all was good for the normal door + $.
Last week was my birthday but I did not get to give myself a present until today. I got to Four Seasons at 10 30 this morning rang the bell and was greeted by a mamasan I had never seen before gave her my coupon and 40 and told her I wanted to see Lisa. She sent Lisa back and the fun began. Great BBBJ and lots of ball licking during the TS Lisa told me over and over again how horny she is in the morning so off to the room where I tipped her $ and was treated to more BBBJ and ball loving before the cover went on and I started taking care of that sweet pussy. I finished with her on top of me. She sure likes to watch your cock going in and out of her pussy. She was very energetic and bubbly during my whole time there. She did say that a new girl was coming soon to work with her Kay and Yoko. What a fantastic time I had thanks to the Queen of AMP Heaven. By the way no cars in lot at 10 30.
Happy Mongering
Is Candy still at 4S? I haven't been out that way in over a year, but apparently Lisa is still in residence. Which we can all agree is a wonderful thing.
Still I'd like to repeat a double with Lisa and Candy I had a while back. Candy is a talker, but with Lisa in the room to keep her focused things went quite smoothly.
[QUOTE=Mickey7]
I think the best thing to do is to put down $ right when you get there. If she asks for more, tell her that's what you paid last time. If she insists on more then you have to make a decision, give her more or walk and be out the door fee which is usually 40 with the coupon from the newspaper.[/QUOTE]
Or you could take your money back and insist on an hour long massage. After all, you've already paid for it.
[QUOTE=Trifecta]Is Candy still at 4S? I haven't been out that way in over a year, but apparently Lisa is still in residence. Which we can all agree is a wonderful thing.
Still I'd like to repeat a double with Lisa and Candy I had a while back. Candy is a talker, but with Lisa in the room to keep her focused things went quite smoothly.[/QUOTE]
It's been a long time since Candy has worked at 4S. I am curious who the "new" girl will be. I wonder if it's going to be someone who was there before.
Also...anyone been to Fugi (formally Paradise) on Parkman Rd since it changed names?
Also... I read on another board tha Apple Spa on Market St in Warren closed. It wasn't open long? Any reports?
I agree that it would be great if the 'new' 4S girl would be Candy, too. The last I saw her was over at Airport in Toledo, but she wasn't there for very long. And that was like a couple of years ago.
Strangely, I don't remember Candy as being a talker. Lisa was the one that seemed to be more into that sort of thing. Candy was always a friendly GFE, not the near-PSE like Lisa.
In fact, that's kind of the reason I haven't been back to 4S for a while. Lisa is almost 'too-much-of-a-good-thing'. For instance, Lisa has a great shape but obvious bolt-ons. Candy may have them, too, but she's taller and got more meat on her so they look a whole lot more natural (and better) than Lisa's.
[QUOTE=Rudiger].
In fact, that's kind of the reason I haven't been back to 4S for a while. Lisa is almost 'too-much-of-a-good-thing'. For instance, Lisa has a great shape but obvious bolt-ons. Candy may have them, too, but she's taller and got more meat on her so they look a whole lot more natural (and better) than Lisa's.[/QUOTE]
Lisa takes sex to a new level. The only thing wrong with Lisa is that you will judge all others by her performance. I am so glad I didn't run into her when I was young. She would have ruined sex with anyone else.
I really liked Candy too, but Lisa is my all time Fav!
Val
[QUOTE=Squiggy]Also...anyone been to Fugi (formally Paradise) on Parkman Rd since it changed names?[/QUOTE]I was there about a month ago. Coco, formerly of 4 S is the talent. She is a bit older, but still a good bang for the buck. ( No pun intended) A spinner with almost a China doll porcelain look. Nice lady. Door fee + $. for FS/GFE
Since we're remembering. I liked Jackie from 4S about a couple years back. Nice body... very nasty, did her and Lisa together.
I met Lisa about 3 weeks ago. 11 O'cock on a Tuesday night.
First time, she was fabulous. Everything everybody described. Next time want bring more money. You think she would let me slap her face with my dick? If the price was right?
[QUOTE=Problem Child]I met Lisa about 3 weeks ago. 11 O'cock on a Tuesday night.
First time, she was fabulous. Everything everybody described. Next time want bring more money. You think she would let me slap her face with my dick? If the price was right?[/QUOTE]
Try to understand... these women are human beings. You are paying them for service and time, but not for abuse or humiliation. Use a little common sense.
If you go there and offend them or piss them off, your actions may affect the treatment the next guy gets.
I made a trip to Sun late last night. Was with a new girl, very good service. So good in fact that I forgot her name. If anyone stops in this weekend, please let me know what her name is so I can request her next time. Door plus $. Not the best I have had at Sun but close enough to bring me back.