Iso best tight AMP body 30 and under hopefully I know you guys know the place.
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Iso best tight AMP body 30 and under hopefully I know you guys know the place.
She's young, she's cute, she got nice tits. Nice trimmed pussy with some very red / pink pussy inside. Missionary was no problem and doggy took more lubes to get it in. Was able to bang it out with $100 bb. Pretty cute girl.
[QUOTE=PlanetEarth;6751539]You skipped two of the basics! Usually the entry level to this hobby is strip clubs, then massage parlors, then escorts, and then SW when on a budget. IMHO, as much of the hobby has gone dry, AMPs are the best option for safe and reliable relaxation. The spas evolve into tiers, Legit massage only, are&T. Massage and HE, Massage plus extras (nude, daty, maybe CBJ), FS spas (CBJ, cfs), GFE spas (enthusiastic, lfk / dfk, nuru TS, BBBJ, CFS), PSE spas (GFE plus BBFS and / or Greek options). RubMaps is a good "directory" to see what's around, I am not a fan for paying for access. As far as budget, 60 for house is standard, could be more. Tips and the resulting service level are variable.[/QUOTE]Greetings I'm pretty new to this space and I would like to visit a AMP. Based on the tiers you provided, can you recommend a few that are in the GFE spa or PSS spas?
Got an itch while I was driving on rt 23. Called ahead and jumped in the place. They said they could take walk-in if I got there in 15 min so I did. Skip the pleasantries, TS and massage were great with alot of play and her kissing different parts of me time to time giggling the whole time. All I can say we did FS but these by far is the best mouth in the massage business at this time. Was covered and she asked was that ok which leads me to believe BBBJ is available. But I damn near bust off the CBJ. I mean she worked her body all around the table while performing oral up the her in a squatting position full throttle mouth riding my cock. Definitely a pro blower. We jumped into mish we her sucking and kissing my chest and stayed in that position a good 20 minutes until I popped in the bag and she let pound town go without no complaints but her facial expressions and fuck faces at the same damn time when she had orgasms were priceless. Not a waste of time nor coin booking a session with her. Not a clock watcher and This is The most joyous part. Never stopped the fun-excitement to discuss or ask my to get donation.
Place is on rt 10 in Randolph anyone know of the talent there recently haven't been in years and curious if it was still a good pm if you have any details.
The spa on Fair Lawn Ave in Fair Lawn next to Fisher's. I have had good past experiences getting L1-L2 services. Lucky was no exception the other night. Mid 30 year old looked great in her Lululemon shit. She maneuvered all over my body hands and all. Sensual hints here and there. As expected, very relaxing atmosphere. No ghetto noises through the walls. Lucky left the perfect amount of time to just blow and blow and finish me off right at the hour mark.
Good stuff from Lucky.
[QUOTE=JordanX;6776561]She's young, she's cute, she got nice tits. Nice trimmed pussy with some very red / pink pussy inside. Missionary was no problem and doggy took more lubes to get it in. Was able to bang it out with $100 bb. Pretty cute girl.[/QUOTE]How does she look compared to the post pics? Pic themselves seem fake.
[QUOTE=VidLover69;6778200]How does she look compared to the post pics? Pic themselves seem fake.[/QUOTE]Pictures are fake but she is definitely cute. Someone said she's a girl that changed name from before after shaving her pubes.
[QUOTE=JordanX;6780780]I wanted to see Narumi but she was not available. I don't think she was even there but it was weird. Seems like there are a lot of big tits there.
Mamasan let me see 3 girls. All happens to be Chinese.
Vava. Nice girl, I think late 20's, high-end looking of the bunch. Very nice looking tits and good face. But at $300/$500 it was too much for little Jordan can enjoy.
Shishi. Older girl, very slim, must be 20'-20 inch waist with nice looking tits.
Webwen. Last girl I got to see as I walked down the hallway with hot mamasan.
OK! She's younger looking that Shishi with big tits and whiter skin. I like her little necklace too with the lucky Irish clover. Cute.
Stay for Wenwen and she's fun time. Milky tits, suck dick in shower like a pro, her little necklace shimmering in the shower as she blew me. I wanted to give her another pearl necklace but resisted cumming since that would be a waste of a cum shot in the TS room. Get back to the room to let her lick my both all over, tinging and soft touch. I'll have none of that, I told her to yank the cock and suck the cock harder. I sat up to feed her my dick and pump into her. Just a little gagging is fine. Saliva dripping down her chin, now we're talking real action.
Jacked her over the firm bed for standing doggy, pump that phat ass good since she's moaning pretty loud. Pussy feels medium tight so it took me a long fucking time to get my meat to the proper temperature. I pulled out and push her into the bed and lay down for cowgirl. Had her fun bags in my mouth while she tries to ride me in earnest. She's getting tired soon after and I took over the fuck her from below until I bit her tits just as I was cumming. (I didn't leave mark, don't worry). I think she liked it. She laid on my chest for a bit while she breathed super hard and then we showered again before the eventual goodbye.
I would go back for Vava if I have more money but $500 is def no way for me. She sounded like a fun time and was in the biggest room as the headliner I guess. She was also best looking IMO, taller too and spoke some English.
There was another girl but Japanese with tits but I could not see. She was wearing a big sweatshirt and not super friendly or awkward and shy.
The other 2 girls were flat I am told so never bother to look at those two.
This is also the first time I got to take a good pastry to eat on the go after I left a spa. So fucking interesting. LOL.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the detailed review but isn't PP in manhattan?
[QUOTE=VidLover69;6781252]Thanks for the detailed review but isn't PP in manhattan?[/QUOTE]I was still on the session for MyLuxe for Miki. I will repost to the right section. They all look the same.
[QUOTE=TaylorLive;6777880]The spa on Fair Lawn Ave in Fair Lawn next to Fisher's. I have had good past experiences getting L1-L2 services. Lucky was no exception the other night. Mid 30 year old looked great in her Lululemon shit. She maneuvered all over my body hands and all. Sensual hints here and there. As expected, very relaxing atmosphere. No ghetto noises through the walls. Lucky left the perfect amount of time to just blow and blow and finish me off right at the hour mark.
Good stuff from Lucky.[/QUOTE]What was the damage here?
Was in the area and decided to stop by. At first got a chubby Asian so I asked for another. Then got a skinny Asian but as I did I heard Spanish. Well my curiosity peaked and I asked for her. She was more of a MILF face wise. Didn't catch her name but she as Colombian. Apparently you have your choice of Chinese, Colombian, and Venezuelan. I took the plunge because service was pretty good here last time I went.
Face: 7.
Body: 6 big bolt ons and unnatural ass.
Personality: 8. Very friendly and talkative.
Communication: 10.
Location: 8.
BBBJ: 8 pretty good with ball licking and good mouth work.
Deed: 8 accommodating and smelled great. I wrapped up but I think she asked if I wanted to.
Duration. HR.
GFE. Oral and kissing allowed.
Repeat: yes but so many girls to try.
Roses: 1. 6 total and. 2 tip.
Wenf back again because was not expecting 1. 6 all in. This time I went and tried Mimi. I remembered to ask for her name. There was no massage but am awesome tease. She basically did the cat bath technique where she licked me all over. If you want a massage don't come here. It's down to business but I like that there is no rush since it's an hour. FS was good and I came the hardest I came in while.
Face: 7. Cute nothing special.
Body: 7. I like petite and she was super skinny. Small bite size tits and ass. Pussy was fresh and tiny.
Personality: 8. Very friendly and talkative.
Location: 8 little parking lot and safe area.
BBBJ: 7 latina gave better head and deep throat. She kind of just put half of it in her mouth. Decent.
Deed: 10 no rush, great kisser, accommodating and smelled great. Rode like a champ and took it in every position. No anal play for her.
Duration. HR.
GFE. Oral and kissing allowed.
Repeat: Yes. Won't be mad if I get her again.
Roses: 1. 6 total and. 2 tip.
[QUOTE=RedFox2120;6788007]
Face: 7. Cute nothing special.
Body: 7. I like petite and she was super skinny. Small bite size tits and ass. Pussy was fresh and tiny.
Personality: 8. Very friendly and talkative.
Location: 8 little parking lot and safe area.
BBBJ: 7 latina gave better head and deep throat. She kind of just put half of it in her mouth. Decent.
Deed: 10 no rush, great kisser, accommodating and smelled great. Rode like a champ and took it in every position. No anal play for her.
Duration. HR.
GFE. Oral and kissing allowed.
Repeat: Yes. Won't be mad if I get her again.
Roses: 1. 6 total and. 2 tip.[/QUOTE]Can you tell us the ages of these girls at Hawaii in Edgewater? Mimi sounds very nice.
Thanks.
Capt.
[QUOTE=CaptThunder;6788606]Can you tell us the ages of these girls at Hawaii in Edgewater? Mimi sounds very nice.
Thanks.
Capt.[/QUOTE]Asian looked like young 30's. She wasn't hot but cute and pretty. There was one Asian that had the hot **** look with tats and dark hair but she was with a client. Another chubby one with tats and bad face.
The latina looked mid 30 to 40.
[QUOTE=TonsilHockey;6758054]I think I am developing a real liking for the Khazak girls! I called and didn't know either of the attendants so decided to roll the dice. Got there and Eva answered the door and she is a very petite and attractive Khazak. Went to the room, got comfortable and she came back in to start the massage. She has dark shoulder length hair and she is thin with very nice skin. Got into undies right away and I was happy with what I saw. Gave a better than average rub that lasted 10-15 minutes with minimal teasing, sort of the standard here. When I turned over I was raring to go. By this time she was down to just her socks and she grabbed my shaft and complimented the size and stiffness. In no time she had me covered up and was performing a very nice CBJ on her knees. After a bit of that I put her up on the table for some standing mish. Really nice and tight honestly and I pounded her pretty good. Flipped for doggy and finished that way. Cleaned up, nice hug and on my way. Just what I needed after a long holiday! This place does not have a shower so be prepared in case that's a requirement for you. All in all this is becoming my go to spot.[/QUOTE]Context, location, name?
[QUOTE=RedFox2120;6789228]Asian looked like young 30's. She wasn't hot but cute and pretty. There was one Asian that had the hot **** look with tats and dark hair but she was with a client. Another chubby one with tats and bad face.
The latina looked mid 30 to 40.[/QUOTE]Any of them do BBFS?
[QUOTE=HummerVette;6789447]Any of them do BBFS?[/QUOTE]Not sure. I didn't seek that. The Latina made the rubber seem optional by asking.
Stopped in Daisy's. They provided me with a 30's something Asian woman. Attractive and physically fit. She goes by the name "Happy" and she fulfilled that name for me. I opted for the hour. TS was thorough and provocative. Massage was good. Flip initiated a nice CFS session that had me finish in CG. She rode me like a champ. I will repeat.
[QUOTE=JordanX;6776561]She's young, she's cute, she got nice tits. Nice trimmed pussy with some very red / pink pussy inside. Missionary was no problem and doggy took more lubes to get it in. Was able to bang it out with $100 bb. Pretty cute girl.[/QUOTE]Where is that spa?
J Yunna at MyLuxe. She looks like she works out because there is no way a girl will have that kind of ass without doing some squats. That shit is sporty. Tits are big and natural, kind of an anomoly because she's short as fuck but has big tits and big ass and a tapered waist from the chest down.
Quick shower, nice enough kissing, she's short as fuck so sucking my dick in the shower was easy a pie for her. Her tits I must say are gorgeous and perfect shape.
I spent a lot of time on her tits back in the room, the bed is a little on the small side for me I worked her from the side of the bed. Sucking her tits and man handling them each one at a time while my dick dangles and touches her pussy. She got a little bit wet which is what I was trying to do. Can't slip it in though, wanted to dip my stick to check for oil but she knew what's up. I fingered her a little bit and realized her pussy is decently tight so I used my 001 magic condom and I plowed her standing doggy while grabbing both tits with my thumb and finger lightly pitching the nips. I put little Luther thru a workout of his own jamming into that tight J Yunna until I finished the first pop. The bed can barefly fit us both in there so we chilled on the edge of the table before I jammed my dick back into her pussy standing doggy and made her pussy red and swollen to squeeze out my second pop. The pictures are her, body is her. The face is filtered a bit and she is cute. Her ass is very meaty by any Asian standards!
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In a very open spot but hard to find.
Girls were very attractive. I did not get to choose but the one I saw looked good. They appear to rotate workers.
Break down.
80- house.
120 - base fee for handy work.
——-.
If you want the full experience it's 100 on top of that. So 300 in total. No two pops. Just one. It's just a job for the one a saw. No GFE.
Pretty girls, but the price does not meet expectation. You can get the same experience at $100 a pop once you get in good with a "provider network". (Hotels is what I compare it too) If they don't have a girl in rotation you could just show the pics to the provider and ask them to reach out to get who you want.
Great rack, natural tits. Good ass too. Face I would say ok but she is cute in a very dorky way. The picture of her body is def on point. The face pic is a bit filtered.
The best part of the experience is that her pussy was so god damn tight my condom was stuck inside of her and I didn't know while I was banging away doggy style. I didn't accidentally CIP because I wanted to splash all over her ass and as I looked down near the end and pulled out, I was bare cock so I just jizzed all over her butt while she looked in horror in the mirror.
She was fine after, just needed to fish out the condom and rinse really well.
Hope one of you isn't going to be her baby's daddy if you didn't realize condom got trapped and CIP her.
She's cute, nice natural small B boobs, great round ass and shaved all over. Her skin is very nice and smooth, face has a glossy finish if that makes sense, just really nice skin!
She's a cutie, 22 or 23 she said. Very nice smooth face with a tiny mole. Very cute face, skin very white like she's never been out in the sun and lives as a Japanese vampire. When she took her panties off I was met with a smooth looking pussy. Things were looking up other than the small bed in the room. But I digress and we went on to the bathroom with some fun and spirited shower and talking while she rubs her hands all over me to clean me up. She did a lot of cock head cleaning and that led me to believe she's going to give me a lot of attention with her mouth.
In the room she had me laid down and stayed by my knees between my legs and gave me lots of soft tease and proceeded with a nice BBBJ. She's got a youthful face and putting my dick into her mouth was very arousing and good. She climbed up later and put some lube on and she grinded her pussy on me hard back and forth. Almost slipping it in but she held the head of my cock to control all angles! Anyway, I can't hold out any longer and condom goes on (did not want to pay for the upgrades) and I fucked her from behind. Her pussy has nice lips wrapping around me, felt good and closed her legs together for more friction and I savagely attacked her ass until she fell forward where I continued to pound until I came.
Decided to see a new girl. I asked a few times and could not really decipher what her name was. Phonetically sounded like Iben or Iba. Eva was the closest thing I saw from other reviews of this place but not sure if the same person. Based on her outfit (short sparkly dress) I could tell what was going to be offered (aka anything). No shower offered, but did do a little handwash / sanitizing of the undercarriage before beginning. Started with massage though which was overall not too great. All over the place with random techniques and not all that soothing either. But eventually the question came of what do I want and small head took over to opt for it all. I only brought in the standard 100 for tip, but she said 1.4. 1.1 was all I had though which she accepted since it was my first time there. Started with CBJ and some light licking / rimming. Moved on to some CG and when couldn't take it anymore popped. After some cleanup she offered a little more massage in the remaining time. Recommendation could go either way. I will probably return for convenience, but wasn't what all I had hoped.
I visit Aqua occasionally, I usually see Sophia or Michelle, they have been there a while and give consistent performance for me. The spa got rid of that annoying manager and has a gal named Kim that's makes visiting easy. 201xxxx614 on river road twitter is at asiangirlsnj.
I like this place because it's got a sauna, great for the winter. And the service is a decent massage and spa relaxation along with a nude HJ and FS.
Found parking in the back. Sometimes it's full and I park at the auto place after hours.
Sophie greeted me, been awhile, and I got settled in the room. Left my stuff there not the lockers they provide.
She gave me a thorough table shower, some playing with the boys. And after I took a short break in the dry sauna. She got me after 10 minutes and we went back to the room. She let me undress her and we did some b2 b caressing and sensual touching light kissing. Then she massaged me for about 20 minutes.
Then I turn over, lay back and Sophia did the kitten kisses and body slide before putting the cover on.
A little lube on her kitty helped her ease my member in her tight little kitty. When she was comfortable she rode me like a good Korean cowgirl. I had her do reverse cg and enjoyed the view of her but and hips bobbing on my cock.
Picked her up and dropped her gently to mish on the table and had ankles on my shoulders. She was wet and playing with her clit and my sac.
Pulled out and had her jack me in that position till I cum on her belly and tits. Had a sport hit her chin and I told her she was driving that not me haha.
We took a shower together after.
Haven't been to Gold Spa since Jenny left. She was fun but a little crazy. Did just about everything including BBFS.
Saw on X a while back that they had a new girl named Seven and the ad said that she had "an open menu just like Jenny". It took me a while to arrange my schedule but I finally got out there this morning. The ad lied.
First of all, she didn't look anything at all like her picture on X. That's not too surprising. The asian places rarely use accurate pictures. But, this wasn't even close. The girl pictured is a youngish, thin, tall girl and when I got there, I found this girl was much older, shorter, and plumper. She didn't do half the things Jenny used to, so another lie. The session turned into a fairly expensive BBBJ. She had good technique with that. I can't fault her for that. And a pretty decent massage afterward. But the rest. Totally unimpressed.
The only thing she did that Jenny didn't do, was that she licked my asshole. I've never had a girl do that. I hear a lot of guys like it. It did nothing for me.
I'll probably go back because the place is fairly close to where I live but I wish there was some good asian BBFS in the area.
[QUOTE=MrFrench;6837034]Haven't been to Gold Spa since Jenny left. She was fun but a little crazy. Did just about everything including BBFS.
Saw on X a while back that they had a new girl named Seven and the ad said that she had "an open menu just like Jenny". It took me a while to arrange my schedule but I finally got out there this morning. The ad lied.
First of all, she didn't look anything at all like her picture on X. That's not too surprising. The asian places rarely use accurate pictures. But, this wasn't even close. The girl pictured is a youngish, thin, tall girl and when I got there, I found this girl was much older, shorter, and plumper. She didn't do half the things Jenny used to, so another lie. The session turned into a fairly expensive BBBJ. She had good technique with that. I can't fault her for that. And a pretty decent massage afterward. But the rest. Totally unimpressed.
The only thing she did that Jenny didn't do, was that she licked my asshole. I've never had a girl do that. I hear a lot of guys like it. It did nothing for me.
I'll probably go back because the place is fairly close to where I live but I wish there was some good asian BBFS in the area.[/QUOTE]You ask for BBFS? She used to offer it I read.
[QUOTE=HummerVette;6838288]You ask for BBFS? She used to offer it I read.[/QUOTE]Jenni short little blonde big tits Pornhub amateur chick?
[QUOTE=HummerVette;6838288]You ask for BBFS? She used to offer it I read.[/QUOTE]I asked. She said no. Not even for more money.
[QUOTE=MrFrench;6840312]I asked. She said no. Not even for more money.[/QUOTE]What about for love?
Stopped by Coco this afternoon and was shocked how many of you mongers were there! Met MMS at the door and passed 2 guys on the way out. Put me in the room and said Emily would be right in. I didn't have high expectations from past reviews, but holy shit when she came in I was shocked. Very cute little girl with nice small Cs / big Bs and a great little bod. Started with a TS which was nothing to write home about, but I find the girls are more responsive if they clean you up. Back to the room and she asks if I want everything, you better believe it! Off comes the dress and wow. Very hot young C girl, looked 20, but was probably 30. Started face down with a CB and then went down for the rim, not my thing so I asked her to move to the goods. Roll over and she rubs those beautiful tits all over and then down for and incredible BBBJ while FIV. I could of let her go all day. Was about to bust so rolled her over and applied the cover. Started with standing mish while I grabbed her tits. Rolled over to doggy and what a view. Knew I wasn't going to last long. Got cleaned up and she asked if she could massage me for the balance of the hour. Not sure if another shot was on the table, although I didn't have another one left. You guys don't know how good you have it down here. 160 out the door.
[QUOTE=BikeRiderY;6841250]Stopped by Coco this afternoon and was shocked how many of you mongers were there! Met MMS at the door and passed 2 guys on the way out. Put me in the room and said Emily would be right in. I didn't have high expectations from past reviews, but holy shit when she came in I was shocked. Very cute little girl with nice small Cs / big Bs and a great little bod. Started with a TS which was nothing to write home about, but I find the girls are more responsive if they clean you up. Back to the room and she asks if I want everything, you better believe it! Off comes the dress and wow. Very hot young C girl, looked 20, but was probably 30. Started face down with a CB and then went down for the rim, not my thing so I asked her to move to the goods. Roll over and she rubs those beautiful tits all over and then down for and incredible BBBJ while FIV. I could of let her go all day. Was about to bust so rolled her over and applied the cover. Started with standing mish while I grabbed her tits. Rolled over to doggy and what a view. Knew I wasn't going to last long. Got cleaned up and she asked if she could massage me for the balance of the hour. Not sure if another shot was on the table, although I didn't have another one left. You guys don't know how good you have it down here. 160 out the door.[/QUOTE]I never heard of this one what city is it in?
[QUOTE=BikeRiderY;6841250]Stopped by Coco this afternoon and was shocked how many of you mongers were there! Met MMS at the door and passed 2 guys on the way out. Put me in the room and said Emily would be right in. I didn't have high expectations from past reviews, but holy shit when she came in I was shocked. Very cute little girl with nice small Cs / big Bs and a great little bod. Started with a TS which was nothing to write home about, but I find the girls are more responsive if they clean you up. Back to the room and she asks if I want everything, you better believe it! Off comes the dress and wow. Very hot young C girl, looked 20, but was probably 30. Started face down with a CB and then went down for the rim, not my thing so I asked her to move to the goods. Roll over and she rubs those beautiful tits all over and then down for and incredible BBBJ while FIV. I could of let her go all day. Was about to bust so rolled her over and applied the cover. Started with standing mish while I grabbed her tits. Rolled over to doggy and what a view. Knew I wasn't going to last long. Got cleaned up and she asked if she could massage me for the balance of the hour. Not sure if another shot was on the table, although I didn't have another one left. You guys don't know how good you have it down here. 160 out the door.[/QUOTE]Where is this? Mind sharing a link.
[QUOTE=BikeRiderY;6841250]Stopped by Coco this afternoon and was shocked how many of you mongers were there! Met MMS at the door and passed 2 guys on the way out. Put me in the room and said Emily would be right in. I didn't have high expectations from past reviews, but holy shit when she came in I was shocked. Very cute little girl with nice small Cs / big Bs and a great little bod. Started with a TS which was nothing to write home about, but I find the girls are more responsive if they clean you up. Back to the room and she asks if I want everything, you better believe it! Off comes the dress and wow. Very hot young C girl, looked 20, but was probably 30. Started face down with a CB and then went down for the rim, not my thing so I asked her to move to the goods. Roll over and she rubs those beautiful tits all over and then down for and incredible BBBJ while FIV. I could of let her go all day. Was about to bust so rolled her over and applied the cover. Started with standing mish while I grabbed her tits. Rolled over to doggy and what a view. Knew I wasn't going to last long. Got cleaned up and she asked if she could massage me for the balance of the hour. Not sure if another shot was on the table, although I didn't have another one left. You guys don't know how good you have it down here. 160 out the door.[/QUOTE]There is a coco spa in Rutherford but can't verify this person is referring to the same place. Looking at this guys post history though. Reminds me of those vague posts where a cross street is mentioned but not the actual spa, and there are like 4 spas in the same 2 mile radius.
[QUOTE=Etl003;6842223]There is a coco spa in Rutherford but can't verify this person is referring to the same place. Looking at this guys post history though. Reminds me of those vague posts where a cross street is mentioned but not the actual spa, and there are like 4 spas in the same 2 mile radius.[/QUOTE]Sorry, I thought you guys could use Google. Search Coco Spa, Paterson.
[QUOTE=BikeRiderY;6843215]Sorry, I thought you guys could use Google. Search Coco Spa, Paterson.[/QUOTE]FYI:
Coco Healthy Spa on McBride Ave, Paterson, is owned / run by the same people who own / run Gold Spa on Main Ave, Passaic, and used to own / run 785 Spa on Main Ave, Passaic. The girls move around between the 2 places (Gold and Coco). This is all based on their twitter / X feed: [URL]https://twitter.com/goldncoco[/URL].
[QUOTE=BikeRiderY;6843215]Sorry, I thought you guys could use Google. Search Coco Spa, Paterson.[/QUOTE]I did. No results in Paterson genius.
[QUOTE=Etl003;6844468]I did. No results in Paterson genius.[/QUOTE]I did and I easily found the site! Thanks bro!
[QUOTE=Etl003;6844468]I did. No results in Paterson genius.[/QUOTE]I must be, literally I just typed in coco spa, paterson, and there was at least ten links that immediately took me there. I must have magic fingers, or maybe it is you?