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[QUOTE=LoveBoydodo;5920435]As the title says. Google search only brings up spring acupuncture near Meijer. Is this the same place to visit Jay? I am just passing through and not local. The board seems to be positive about Jay at Spring Spa. An any of you gets confirm the place? I called, but went to voicemail.
I am talking about this: 1xx23 Helmer Rd S, Battle Creek, MI 4xx15.[/QUOTE]The Helmer Road address is the place you are seeking.
I called a local AMP to make an appointment. I told the woman on the phone who I wished to see, time, etc. She asked how old I am and I said 74. She said you sound like your 12. I assured her I wasn't. She started laughing and said 74, really? I said really. She said can you still shoot and score? I said almost always. She laughed at me some more and said "If your really 74 I'll give you a little extra time for free". I said extra time always helps. She was still laughing when I hung up!
[QUOTE=JamesF;5925535]I called a local AMP to make an appointment. I told the woman on the phone who I wished to see, time, etc. She asked how old I am and I said 74. She said you sound like your 12. I assured her I wasn't. She started laughing and said 74, really? I said really. She said can you still shoot and score? I said almost always. She laughed at me some more and said "If your really 74 I'll give you a little extra time for free". I said extra time always helps. She was still laughing when I hung up![/QUOTE]James F,
Good Story, although new one on me.
How Does a Guy "sound young" ?
I guess I Don't, but Not Far Behind you On Age.
Never Offered any Extra Time either.
Did You Actually Get Extra? (LOL).
Respect,
JJ / Jimmy (Kazoo).
[QUOTE=JamesF;5922249]The Helmer Road address is the place you are seeking.[/QUOTE]So I called second time on Sunday when I was at town. She told me to come next week as Sunday is appointment only and Jay apparently had packed appointments. Is this true. Or she just bullshited me? I am planning to visit again just to sample Jay.
[QUOTE=LoveBoydodo;5927647]So I called second time on Sunday when I was at town. She told me to come next week as Sunday is appointment only and Jay apparently had packed appointments. Is this true. Or she just bullshited me? I am planning to visit again just to sample Jay.[/QUOTE]You will probably have better success if you call the day before you go, call early in the day. Sometime these places get pretty busy.
I found her to be voluptuous, with a big personality, and a great sense of humor. She reminds me a lot of Hanna from Jackson without being over the top like Hanna can be. When I was there I was the only customer, maybe that loosened her up a bit. She is very responsive to the proper stimulation. At one point she said "Oh Lord! Who taught you how to do that". I said my sister. Her eyes got as big as saucers. Then she started laughing. Big laughing. When that subsided she asked me to marry her. I told her I thought it was a little early in the relationship. More big laughing. A good time had by both of us. I experienced two things I never had before at an AMP. First, at times of peak enjoyment she was loud, really loud, at expressing approval. Usually these providers are about as silent as a mouse no matter how aroused they become. Second, after we finished she said we were a mess and took me back to the shower for a second cleaning for both of us. Never had that done to me before either. This wasn't the same old session we've all experienced many times with many different providers. This lady is fun, great fun, and she is spontaneous. YMMV, don't forget I was the only customer there. Go see her. Soon. Let us know about your experience.
Saw Jay recently, I agree with all of the positive reviews. No one else there during my mid day visit, will repeat soon.
Never thought about AMP's closing for holidays before but Happy was closed yesterday- they deserve their time off too just never thought about it.
[QUOTE=BCHunter;5944873]Never thought about AMP's closing for holidays before but Happy was closed yesterday- they deserve their time off too just never thought about it.[/QUOTE]This must be new. I have been there on Thanksgiving and Easter before, although it's been a couple of years ago.
[QUOTE=BCHunter;5944873]Never thought about AMP's closing for holidays before but Happy was closed yesterday- they deserve their time off too just never thought about it.[/QUOTE]BCH,
I Think that was just a Bonus unusual Day Off for them at Happy.
I too never heard of that before.
You'd think, days off of work for clients, would equate to a busy AMP day.
I Do Know, from my Last Discussion w / Jay (at Spring) just a few days previous- She Said she'd be Working Monday.
So, I Guess Spring Was Open.
When In Doubt, Call ahead, IKR?
Best, JJ / Jimmy (Kazoo).
Hello folks,
I am new to this hobby and to be honest have never done this at all. I am not a young man but I did spend most of my life living only in the most conservative cities in one of the most conservative states. Things like this only existed in movies and television. There were not even street walkers in this town. I have lived in this area for the last 8 years and my curiosity led me here. Now I realize that AMP places are quite real and frequented. I would really like to try one out. I have read these forums and would like to try either Happy or Spring. However, I am completely new to this hobby and, to be honest, know nothing about how it works at all regardless of how much I have researched on this forum. My main concern is law enforcement. I am still not understanding how these places still operate when this is super illegal from what I understand. I am also concerned with what could happen if I am arrested at such a place. Does this constitute jail time? If so, around how much time does one get? I tried to see online if there were any news reports about busts in such places and I did in fact find one not too long ago for Spring so if they all got busted how are they right back in business. What happened to the unfortunate souls that may have been there getting serviced when the bust happened? To summarize that, how often could a bust such as this happens and what could happen to me if I am there when and if anything ever goes down?
Furthermore, I understand most say to call and schedule an appointment but do I have to or is it just prudent to do so? I also saw someone post to plan to spend about 200 but is it a good idea to show up with a little more just in case? I don't want to go without enough cash and look like an ass but also don't want to go with too much on me. Also, how does one initiate this with masseuses in the first place? I am a little shy and would never ask unless I was 100% sure she was not going to slap me in the face and kick me out. Because at the very least I would not mind an actual massage regardless of the HE or FS. Do they offer or at lest give some sort of hints? If so, what would those hints be? I ask because even if most find such things obvious I would and have always been oblivious to such things. Not just because I come form a place where this did not exist. I mean, I can barley even pick up on if a girl is flirting with me most of the time LOL. Honestly, I am super excited to try this out but also terrified a little, mostly about the police. I really don't want to get caught here as I am afraid I could lose my job or my friends and family find out. My friends group would ostracize me immediately if they ever knew I did this even once. If there is anything else you folks could advise me on before I even decide to try this let alone do it I would be forever grateful!
I also just want to give a Kudos to you folks here for restoring my faith in humanity. My super conservative upbringing taught me that this particular hobby is a cesspool full of the worst type of people imaginable, especially the hobbyist. My passing curiosity that led me to this thread would have ended there if I saw what I expected, a bunch of misogynistic vitriol littered with human rights violations and abuse. That is not what I see here. I see people acting like gentleman posting things that are designed to protect themselves, each other, and the providers. I have even seen a few posts where the hobbyist describes things like, "she did not seem like she really wanted to do this so I just paid her for her time and left." That is real cool guys! That was not what I expected to see and seeing these positive posts is exactly what made me want to dig further. Definitely not what is portrayed in movies and TV let alone from prudent folks back home.
If there is anything else you folks could advise me on before I even decide to try this let alone do it I would be even more grateful than I already am! Stay safe!
[QUOTE=SpaceBookCoast;5949571]Hello folks,
I am new to this hobby and to be honest have never done this at all. I am not a young man but I did spend most of my life living only in the most conservative cities in one of the most conservative states. Things like this only existed in movies and television. There were not even street walkers in this town. I have lived in this area for the last 8 years and my curiosity led me here. Now I realize that AMP places are quite real and frequented. I would really like to try one out. I have read these forums and would like to try either Happy or Spring. However, I am completely new to this hobby and, to be honest, know nothing about how it works at all regardless of how much I have researched on this forum. My main concern is law enforcement. I am still not understanding how these places still operate when this is super illegal from what I understand. I am also concerned with what could happen if I am arrested at such a place. Does this constitute jail time? If so, around how much time does one get? I tried to see online if there were any news reports about busts in such places and I did in fact find one not too long ago for Spring so if they all got busted how are they right back in business. What happened to the unfortunate souls that may have been there getting serviced when the bust happened? To summarize that, how often could a bust such as this happens and what could happen to me if I am there when and if anything ever goes down?
Furthermore, I understand most say to call and schedule an appointment but do I have to or is it just prudent to do so? I also saw someone post to plan to spend about 200 but is it a good idea to show up with a little more just in case? I don't want to go without enough cash and look like an ass but also don't want to go with too much on me.[/QUOTE]If this is a serious letter your best advice would be to read some letters presented here, pick out a spa that sounds like it might satisfy your inclinations and go for a visit. Follow the lead of the lady you have been provided with and see what happens. She will guide you thru it. Tell her this is your first visit to a spa. If you are nervous tell her. Chances of being arrested are minimal. If you are stick to the fact that you came foe a massage. Best of luck! Probably best to leave faith and cesspools out of your interaction with your provider.
[QUOTE=SpaceBookCoast;5949571]Hello folks,
I am new to this hobby and to be honest have never done this at all. I am not a young man but I did spend most of my life living only in the most conservative cities in one of the most conservative states. Things like this only existed in movies and television. There were not even street walkers in this town. I have lived in this area for the last 8 years and my curiosity led me here. Now I realize that AMP places are quite real and frequented. I would really like to try one out. I have read these forums and would like to try either Happy or Spring. However, I am completely new to this hobby and, to be honest, know nothing about how it works at all regardless of how much I have researched on this forum. My main concern is law enforcement. I am still not understanding how these places still operate when this is super illegal from what I understand. I am also concerned with what could happen if I am arrested at such a place. Does this constitute jail time? If so, around how much time does one get? I tried to see online if there were any news reports about busts in such places and I did in fact find one not too long ago for Spring so if they all got busted how are they right back in business. What happened to the unfortunate souls that may have been there getting serviced when the bust happened? To summarize that, how often could a bust such as this happens and what could happen to me if I am there when and if anything ever goes down?
Furthermore, I understand most say to call and schedule an appointment but do I have to or is it just prudent to do so? I also saw someone post to plan to spend about 200 but is it a good idea to show up with a little more just in case? I don't want to go without enough cash and look like an ass but also don't want to go with too much on me. Also, how does one initiate this with masseuses in the first place? I am a little shy and would never ask unless I was 100% sure she was not going to slap me in the face and kick me out. Because at the very least I would not mind an actual massage regardless of the HE or FS. Do they offer or at lest give some sort of hints? If so, what would those hints be? I ask because even if most find such things obvious I would and have always been oblivious to such things. Not just because I come form a place where this did not exist. I mean, I can barley even pick up on if a girl is flirting with me most of the time LOL. Honestly, I am super excited to try this out but also terrified a little, mostly about the police. I really don't want to get caught here as I am afraid I could lose my job or my friends and family find out. My friends group would ostracize me immediately if they ever knew I did this even once. If there is anything else you folks could advise me on before I even decide to try this let alone do it I would be forever grateful!
I also just want to give a Kudos to you folks here for restoring my faith in humanity. My super conservative upbringing taught me that this particular hobby is a cesspool full of the worst type of people imaginable, especially the hobbyist. My passing curiosity that led me to this thread would have ended there if I saw what I expected, a bunch of misogynistic vitriol littered with human rights violations and abuse. That is not what I see here. I see people acting like gentleman posting things that are designed to protect themselves, each other, and the providers. I have even seen a few posts where the hobbyist describes things like, "she did not seem like she really wanted to do this so I just paid her for her time and left." That is real cool guys! That was not what I expected to see and seeing these positive posts is exactly what made me want to dig further. Definitely not what is portrayed in movies and TV let alone from prudent folks back home.
If there is anything else you folks could advise me on before I even decide to try this let alone do it I would be even more grateful than I already am! Stay safe![/QUOTE]There is little chance of getting busted in an AMP. Either they are paying off the cops or the cops overlook them. They would actually have to catch you in the act, otherwise you could just say you were getting a massage, and almost every AMP I have been to have a locked front door and you have to be buzzed in, so there would be plenty of warning if the cops showed up. It is far less risky than a SW or an escort. Nothing in this hobby is 100% safe, which I believe is the draw for many.
[QUOTE=JamesF;5949885]If this is a serious letter your best advice would be to read some letters presented here, pick out a spa that sounds like it might satisfy your inclinations and go for a visit. Follow the lead of the lady you have been provided with and see what happens. She will guide you thru it. Tell her this is your first visit to a spa. If you are nervous tell her. Chances of being arrested are minimal. If you are stick to the fact that you came foe a massage. Best of luck! Probably best to leave faith and cesspools out of your interaction with your provider.[/QUOTE]Thank you for the input. That is very helpful. I will always leave the faith and cesspool stuff out of it LOL. I am not a believer myself it is just my background like most. I hope I did not offend anyone but that. My point was that my conception of this hobby was totally incorrect and misguided. I see a lot of folks in these forums when reviewing someone they seem to focus more on their personality, such as all the great reviews about this Jay. I love how everyone about what a awesome person she is and how fun conversations with her can be then almost as an after thought remember to mention she is hot too LOL. Not what I expected at all and I am quite pleased to learn this.
[QUOTE=SlyGuy12;5950227]There is little chance of getting busted in an AMP. Either they are paying off the cops or the cops overlook them. They would actually have to catch you in the act, otherwise you could just say you were getting a massage, and almost every AMP I have been to have a locked front door and you have to be buzzed in, so there would be plenty of warning if the cops showed up. It is far less risky than a SW or an escort. Nothing in this hobby is 100% safe, which I believe is the draw for many.[/QUOTE]That is very reassuring and I thank you much for the insight. I am still not sure if I will try it out yet though but after thee feedback I have gotten here I am leaning more towards it. I won't lie, the fact that it is not 100% safe totally is a bit of a draw for me! LOL Thank you again!
[QUOTE=SpaceBookCoast;5951243]Thank you for the input. That is very helpful. I will always leave the faith and cesspool stuff out of it LOL. I am not a believer myself it is just my background like most. I hope I did not offend anyone but that. My point was that my conception of this hobby was totally incorrect and misguided. I see a lot of folks in these forums when reviewing someone they seem to focus more on their personality, such as all the great reviews about this Jay. I love how everyone about what a awesome person she is and how fun conversations with her can be then almost as an after thought remember to mention she is hot too LOL. Not what I expected at all and I am quite pleased to learn this.[/QUOTE]SpaceBook brother,
SlyGuy & James have Given Great Info & addressed Most of your questions.
3 More things I want to share (as a newbie) , before you "jump in".
* IMO always good to call ahead, but almost Never will they make an actual "Appt".
I find it clears the way to let them know- client on the way & many times they'll be totally Ready for You.
Also gives you an Opportunity to "introduce yourself" ahead to Mamasan, or Find Out if they're Super Busy (clients waiting).
* It is never really necessary to describe or answer, re: "FS".
Lay out the proper amount (total) all Immed.
They'll Know what you donated for, Or If they ask you what you want, just reply " verything".
That will be a known response from the experienced & discreet.
* Since you're a member here, It can only Help to let them know- "they were recommended by friends to you."
If asked Who, just reply " several friends from the Men's Internet Group."
They'll then know you share info & also that our type of "Men's Union" (so to speak- LOL) Has Power.
More likely to get you the most respect & Best Treatment.
Just thoughts.
Enjoy pal when you dive in.
Also welcome to the board!
Best, JJ / Jimmy (Kazoo).
I reread your posts and I believe you have already decided you are going. Maybe you are overthinking this. Just go. It probably will be way better than you imagined. However before you do go you should prepare yourself for the possibility you may feel some post visit shame or guilt that you will have to work thru. Don't tell anyone, nobody. Make this site your friends to talk too. And whatever you do don't tell anybody in your family. Consider these things for a bit. If your ready do it no sense in agonizing over it any longer. Adventures await!
Called to try to get an appointment with Jay and was asked my age and then was told to call back when I was 25. What should I do?
[QUOTE=Heste;5962039]Called to try to get an appointment with Jay and was asked my age and then was told to call back when I was 25. What should I do?[/QUOTE]Call again in a few days and lie about your age. Can you pass for 25?
Have always been a fan of Anna and Gina and warming up to Connie but I have never asked them to strip down for the table shower- going soon so was wondering if they are willing to do that- if no feedback will ask and report.
[QUOTE=BCHunter;5963379]Have always been a fan of Anna and Gina and warming up to Connie but I have never asked them to strip down for the table shower- going soon so was wondering if they are willing to do that- if no feedback will ask and report.[/QUOTE]I've never tried this at Happy but I've had it several times at Spring if you pay the full fare (house fee plus tip) up front. It also requires that the parlor not have other customers needing access to the table shower.
[QUOTE=SpaceBookCoast;5949571]Hello folks,
I am new to this hobby and to be honest have never done this at all. I am not a young man but I did spend most of my life living only in the most conservative cities in one of the most conservative states. Things like this only existed in movies and television. There were not even street walkers in this town. I have lived in this area for the last 8 years and my curiosity led me here. Now I realize that AMP places are quite real and frequented. I would really like to try one out. I have read these forums and would like to try either Happy or Spring. However, I am completely new to this hobby and, to be honest, know nothing about how it works at all regardless of how much I have researched on this forum. My main concern is law enforcement. I am still not understanding how these places still operate when this is super illegal from what I understand. I am also concerned with what could happen if I am arrested at such a place. Does this constitute jail time? If so, around how much time does one get? I tried to see online if there were any news reports about busts in such places and I did in fact find one not too long ago for Spring so if they all got busted how are they right back in business. What happened to the unfortunate souls that may have been there getting serviced when the bust happened? To summarize that, how often could a bust such as this happens and what could happen to me if I am there when and if anything ever goes down?
Furthermore, I understand most say to call and schedule an appointment but do I have to or is it just prudent to do so? I also saw someone post to plan to spend about 200 but is it a good idea to show up with a little more just in case? I don't want to go without enough cash and look like an ass but also don't want to go with too much on me. Also, how does one initiate this with masseuses in the first place? I am a little shy and would never ask unless I was 100% sure she was not going to slap me in the face and kick me out. Because at the very least I would not mind an actual massage regardless of the HE or FS. Do they offer or at lest give some sort of hints? If so, what would those hints be? I ask because even if most find such things obvious I would and have always been oblivious to such things. Not just because I come form a place where this did not exist. I mean, I can barley even pick up on if a girl is flirting with me most of the time LOL. Honestly, I am super excited to try this out but also terrified a little, mostly about the police. I really don't want to get caught here as I am afraid I could lose my job or my friends and family find out. My friends group would ostracize me immediately if they ever knew I did this even once. If there is anything else you folks could advise me on before I even decide to try this let alone do it I would be forever grateful!
I also just want to give a Kudos to you folks here for restoring my faith in humanity. My super conservative upbringing taught me that this particular hobby is a cesspool full of the worst type of people imaginable, especially the hobbyist. My passing curiosity that led me to this thread would have ended there if I saw what I expected, a bunch of misogynistic vitriol littered with human rights violations and abuse. That is not what I see here. I see people acting like gentleman posting things that are designed to protect themselves, each other, and the providers. I have even seen a few posts where the hobbyist describes things like, "she did not seem like she really wanted to do this so I just paid her for her time and left." That is real cool guys! That was not what I expected to see and seeing these positive posts is exactly what made me want to dig further. Definitely not what is portrayed in movies and TV let alone from prudent folks back home.
If there is anything else you folks could advise me on before I even decide to try this let alone do it I would be even more grateful than I already am! Stay safe![/QUOTE]You are clearly not ready for this hobby. You are still using your big head. When the little head takes over, then you are ready.
[QUOTE=SpaceBookCoast;5951246]That is very reassuring and I thank you much for the insight. I am still not sure if I will try it out yet though but after thee feedback I have gotten here I am leaning more towards it. I won't lie, the fact that it is not 100% safe totally is a bit of a draw for me! LOL Thank you again![/QUOTE]They are businesses that pay their taxes. They are usually located in more blue collar at least medium sized cities. Not small towns or affluent towns. They are pretty discreet with small non descript signs. Authorities usually leave them alone unless there are complaints from the community. Or maybe some elected official that wants to make a splash before an election. They have been around for many years now. People know what goes on. But as long as they stay low key they usually are alright. Years ago berrien County had some around benton harbor and Niles but they got shut down by county officials. Mostly conservative county. Kazoo has cracked down some over the years. But battle creek and Jackson have been fine. Usually when they get busted it's not the customers, it's the workers and mamasan.
[QUOTE=BCHunter;5963379]Have always been a fan of Anna and Gina and warming up to Connie but I have never asked them to strip down for the table shower- going soon so was wondering if they are willing to do that- if no feedback will ask and report.[/QUOTE]I have had some great times in the shower room. Just ask.
[QUOTE=BCHunter;5963379]Have always been a fan of Anna and Gina and warming up to Connie but I have never asked them to strip down for the table shower- going soon so was wondering if they are willing to do that- if no feedback will ask and report.[/QUOTE]BCH,
I too have had the shower action w / special svc before also.
I must say tho, I've never asked.
Always been their suggestion or offer.
Only been w / an amp provider that I know quite well.
Rare also for the girl to know surely, that no one else is around.
Ymmv, as always.
Have safe fun.
JJ / Jimmy (Kazoo).
[QUOTE=HeeJunk;5963500]You are clearly not ready for this hobby. You are still using your big head. When the little head takes over, then you are ready.[/QUOTE]I gave this poster what I thought was good advice. Your advice was much better than mine in many fewer words. Well done.
We all Know that even a Popular AM provider, will Have Ups & Downs in Client Traffic.
Depends on Many Things, Incl a depressed Economy.
However, below just FYI Re: Jay at Spring Spa.
A Hobbyist Friend of mine (Not a Member Here), said He last Thursday had a Repeat Great Session w / Jay.
He was Only Client There when Arriving & for Most of his Hour.
However, while Wrapping Up session w / Jay, Doorbells rang.
Was Not 1 but 2 Addtl Clients for her.
Same Time, Busy that Day- Mid Afternoon.
Just Info- Your Experience May Vary.
All Reports continue to Say She's Worth your Time & patience.
Be Well, JJ / Jimmy (Kazoo).
[QUOTE=BCHunter;5963379]Have always been a fan of Anna and Gina and warming up to Connie but I have never asked them to strip down for the table shower- going soon so was wondering if they are willing to do that- if no feedback will ask and report.[/QUOTE]Can I ask which establishment you are referring to? I read back a bit and tried to decipher it but never picked up on it. Coming to BC later this week or early next week and wanted a couple of good AMP options.
[QUOTE=LikesToPlay74;5977919]Can I ask which establishment you are referring to? I read back a bit and tried to decipher it but never picked up on it. Coming to BC later this week or early next week and wanted a couple of good AMP options.[/QUOTE]Happy Spa is located on North Raymond Road, just south of Vegas Strip Club (which gets only mediocre reviews). Connie and Ginny typically work at that location.
Spring (Accu) Spa is located at 154XX Helmer Road, about a mile north of I94. Jay works there.
Have fun and write a review or two.
[QUOTE=Electronman;5978056]Happy Spa is located on North Raymond Road, just south of Vegas Strip Club (which gets only mediocre reviews). Connie and Ginny typically work at that location.
Spring (Accu) Spa is located at 154XX Helmer Road, about a mile north of I94. Jay works there.
Have fun and write a review or two.[/QUOTE]Ok perfect. Thanks for the additional info. Will definitely report back after I go.
Had an unbelievable session with Jay today. That woman is unbelievable. Table shower was excellent. Massage was very good. Very intense, passionate session after. BBBJ, BBFS. She literally begged to be fucked. Second time with her, can't wait for the third!
Had a great time with Jay. Don't get out much but I'm looking forward to seeing her again.
Well men,
It seems unanimous.
Jay at Spring, is equal to or the best, we've Had Here at an AMP, in a long long time.
All these reports + seen 7 x (by me).
All think she's great.
Patronize her brothers, if at all poss.
Better she does, longer she'll likely stay.
Be safe & well.
JJ / Jimmy (Kazoo).
Jay said Spring Spa will be closed on Monday.
Jay gets lots of glowing reviews. I've seen her several times and I concur with the positive evaluation but I'm not ready to crown her as the GOAT. Let me add a few of my personal observations to help balance the reviews. To be clear, I'm not disagreeing with the positive evaluations, but everyone has different standards, so I'm offering a slightly different perspective, in hopes that it will be valuable to the readers of this forum.
From my perspective:
Strengths:
1. Very pretty face, nice smile, long black hair.
2. Good, not great, English skills.
3. Good performer and good sense of humor who is interested pleasing her customer.
4. Not a clock watcher; she also enjoys her sessions.
5. Good massage skills and getting better.
6. While not specific to Jay, this spa is generally clean and well maintained. Parking behind the building is discrete.
Issues (these may or may not be of concern, depending on your preferences and expectations):
1. She has an extra 10-15 pounds around her abdomen and her tits are pretty floppy. I say this while readily acknowledging that I prefer athletic, slender women. It may not be a problem for many customers.
2. She has interrupted two of my sessions to ask for additional payment. This was after I paid the full standard fee up front. Nothing kills the mood like haggling about money during a session. Money issues should be ironed out up front, either by announcing that the standard fee has increased or by discussing menu options and prices.
Would I see her again? Yes.
Would I recommend her to others, yes, but with the two caveats above so they can decide if either issue is a deal breaker.
[QUOTE=Electronman;5996675]Jay gets lots of glowing reviews. I've seen her several times and I concur with the positive evaluation but I'm not ready to crown her as the GOAT. Let me add a few of my personal observations to help balance the reviews. To be clear, I'm not disagreeing with the positive evaluations, but everyone has different standards, so I'm offering a slightly different perspective, in hopes that it will be valuable to the readers of this forum.
From my perspective:
Strengths:
1. Very pretty face, nice smile, long black hair.
2. Good, not great, English skills.
3. Good performer and good sense of humor who is interested pleasing her customer.
4. Not a clock watcher; she also enjoys her sessions.
5. Good massage skills and getting better.
6. While not specific to Jay, this spa is generally clean and well maintained. Parking behind the building is discrete.
Issues (these may or may not be of concern, depending on your preferences and expectations):
1. She has an extra 10-15 pounds around her abdomen and her tits are pretty floppy. I say this while readily acknowledging that I prefer athletic, slender women. It may not be a problem for many customers.
2. She has interrupted two of my sessions to ask for additional payment. This was after I paid the full standard fee up front. Nothing kills the mood like haggling about money during a session. Money issues should be ironed out up front, either by announcing that the standard fee has increased or by discussing menu options and prices.
Would I see her again? Yes.
Would I recommend her to others, yes, but with the two caveats above so they can decide if either issue is a deal breaker.[/QUOTE]Fair review. Although for many of us the natural breasts are a real plus even if there is a little sag.
[QUOTE=Electronman;5996675]Jay gets lots of glowing reviews. I've seen her several times and I concur with the positive evaluation but I'm not ready to crown her as the GOAT. Let me add a few of my personal observations to help balance the reviews. To be clear, I'm not disagreeing with the positive evaluations, but everyone has different standards, so I'm offering a slightly different perspective, in hopes that it will be valuable to the readers of this forum.
From my perspective:
Strengths:
1. Very pretty face, nice smile, long black hair.
2. Good, not great, English skills.
3. Good performer and good sense of humor who is interested pleasing her customer.[/QUOTE]Eman,
This is a good, well written & detailed breakdown, re: Jay at Spring.
As Far as the Negatives & positives both, as Always w / anyone, YMMV.
I Appreciate your Experiences, as well as Review- thanks brother!!
IMO She is Simply by far, the Best here in a few Years.
The GOAT, would Certainly Not be Accurate for Jay- Agreed.
But Best is best, esp in Recent Times.
A current Favorite of many who Liked her Predecessors Lilly &/ or Lucky.
Just IMO & my Addtl. 2 cents.
Enjoy, JJ / Jimmy (Kazoo).
[QUOTE=HeeJunk;5963500]You are clearly not ready for this hobby. You are still using your big head. When the little head takes over, then you are ready.[/QUOTE]I have a different perspective about HeeJunks comment. There are many posts in all of these forums where a guy is disappointed that he let the Little Head control his behavior. Likewise many posts that advise using the Big Head instead of the Little Head to stay out of harms way.
As a hat tip to HeeJunk, from reading through HeeJunks past posts, he appears to be well studied can considers his actions and reactions. HeeJunk may have enough experience that thinking about it has just become second nature to him.
[QUOTE=Electronman;5996675]Jay gets lots of glowing reviews. I've seen her several times and I concur with the positive evaluation but I'm not ready to crown her as the GOAT. Let me add a few of my personal observations to help balance the reviews. To be clear, I'm not disagreeing with the positive evaluations, but everyone has different standards, so I'm offering a slightly different perspective, in hopes that it will be valuable to the readers of this forum.
From my perspective:
Strengths:
1. Very pretty face, nice smile, long black hair.
2. Good, not great, English skills.
3. Good performer and good sense of humor who is interested pleasing her customer.
4. Not a clock watcher; she also enjoys her sessions.
5. Good massage skills and getting better.
6. While not specific to Jay, this spa is generally clean and well maintained. Parking behind the building is discrete.
Issues (these may or may not be of concern, depending on your preferences and expectations):
1. She has an extra 10-15 pounds around her abdomen and her tits are pretty floppy. I say this while readily acknowledging that I prefer athletic, slender women. It may not be a problem for many customers.
2. She has interrupted two of my sessions to ask for additional payment. This was after I paid the full standard fee up front. Nothing kills the mood like haggling about money during a session. Money issues should be ironed out up front, either by announcing that the standard fee has increased or by discussing menu options and prices.
Would I see her again? Yes.
Would I recommend her to others, yes, but with the two caveats above so they can decide if either issue is a deal breaker.[/QUOTE]I would add another caution to this. I have seen Jay about 5 times. To me her allure had been her playful attitude, reminded me of Sandy from years ago at Happy. I would rate her services up there with Lucky and Lilly. The turn off for me is that on our last visit she tried to jump on with no cover. When I said I wanted a cover, she made a frowny face and said we don't need, baby. I said yes we do, and it just kind of killed the mood. I have a pregnant girlfriend at home as a result of unprotected fun. Jay may be on the pill or may be too old to get pregnant, but I bet she see a minimum of 5 guys per day so that is at least 25 guys per week. I am surprised that she doesn't seem to worry about VD. To me, that is too risky. If others like it, that's fine, but I personally won't play without a cover.
[QUOTE=SlyGuy12;6001428]I would add another caution to this. I have seen Jay about 5 times. To me her allure had been her playful attitude, reminded me of Sandy from years ago at Happy. I would rate her services up there with Lucky and Lilly. The turn off for me is that on our last visit she tried to jump on with no cover. When I said I wanted a cover, she made a frowny face and said we don't need, baby. I said yes we do, and it just kind of killed the mood. I have a pregnant girlfriend at home as a result of unprotected fun. Jay may be on the pill or may be too old to get pregnant, but I bet she see a minimum of 5 guys per day so that is at least 25 guys per week. I am surprised that she doesn't seem to worry about VD. To me, that is too risky. If others like it, that's fine, but I personally won't play without a cover.[/QUOTE]Older Chicago poster here. You guys sure have me intrigued about your Jay.
A good 20 years ago I met a Jay at the now long gone Rainbow spa in Rockford. She was short-medium height, longer straight hair, soft while athletic with big, beautiful, ample boobs that could be judged to be enhanced but they were natural.
We did CFS for our first several visits until the time I'll never forget when she climbed on cowgirl, guided me in and whispered, "I want to know what it feels like" and gave me my first ever BBFS in an AMP. She sure made a guy feel like he was the only one. Real talent. The other girls called me Jay's husband.
She was probably in her mid 30's in the early aughts. I subsequently followed her to a Fort Wayne spa for a handful of years then lost track.
Do you Battle Creek craftsmen peg her at maybe 55 years old? I'll make my own trip soon. But thanks for any additional notes.