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[QUOTE=FarFarAway;4990586]Well, she's certainly no one I'd see. You can get into debates about the spectrum from real GF to full hooker w / people on here, but I won't do that. Define your own semantics. In this pandemic, I expect a SB to be ongoing and exclusive to me, otherwise I'd never justify the risk. These are available, I've had a few. My current POT is a 24 YO law clerk, very pretty Hispanic, a bit innocent, but up for the adventure after so much deprivation. FC on Friday.[/QUOTE]Thanks for your advice. You are absolutely right. I did not plan to meet her either.

Today I just detect BOT (robot) on SA. I believe SA created fake profiles and let the software reads the messages automatically. I got constant responses after I sent out the messages. Within a few second after my messages sent out, they were read by pot. I tested it about 10 messages, all got read after 2 seconds. Only software can do it consistently.

[QUOTE=JWalker350;4992321]Today I just detect BOT (robot) on SA. I believe SA created fake profiles and let the software reads the messages automatically. I got constant responses after I sent out the messages. Within a few second after my messages sent out, they were read by pot. I tested it about 10 messages, all got read after 2 seconds. Only software can do it consistently.[/QUOTE][URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/0561a40a-9d9e-417a-8676-19f5daa71c25[/URL]

[QUOTE=JWalker350;4992324][URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/0561a40a-9d9e-417a-8676-19f5daa71c25[/URL][/QUOTE]If someone leaves their message box opened on your conversation, messages will automatically show as read right after they are received. Not saying that girl is real or not, just that the instant read just means she has the conversation opened. I actually messaged that girl a few days ago never got an answer, a bot would reply to everybody.

[QUOTE=Cubico;4992340]If someone leaves their message box opened on your conversation, messages will automatically show as read right after they are received. Not saying that girl is real or not, just that the instant read just means she has the conversation opened. I actually messaged that girl a few days ago never got an answer, a bot would reply to everybody.[/QUOTE]Got it now. I have never seen anything like it.

So here is one I will share. Meet her and had a good time with everything you would expect from a SB. She looks better then her pictures. 300 all in.

This should be a good one for you SugarDaddy virgins. If you can't seal the deal her you might want to try a different hobby.

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/83169cc3-07c6-465e-bff8-861648ea2875[/URL]

This girl right here goes around with her "manager" robbing people at knife point [URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/6097c0a7-8256-4c81-9596-2137025fdb27[/URL] be careful guys. She kept mentioning PB area a lot so I'm assuming she's from there.

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/6097c0a7-8256-4c81-9596-2137025fdb27[/URL]

[QUOTE=Name88;5009139]This girl right here goes around with her "manager" robbing people at knife point [URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/6097c0a7-8256-4c81-9596-2137025fdb27[/URL] be careful guys. She kept mentioning PB area a lot so I'm assuming she's from there.[/QUOTE]Just curious what did she tell you. She didn't even return my message.

Maybe this is just coincidence, but lately on SA I have noticed a higher rate of girls not demanding $600 ppm in the first message. Now they want to meet, setting dates and times and not discussing dollar figures. Just "please feed me" and "need help with traffic tickets" kinds of things. One would expect that the expired enhanced unemployment plus no stimulus plus this prolonged period of shutdowns and slowdowns for most jobs an SB would have to make them hungrier. And lower prices.

It seems that way. Hard to tell, I also took better profile photos which seems to have made a huge difference in my response rate.

[QUOTE=Habeed;5017145]Maybe this is just coincidence, but lately on SA I have noticed a higher rate of girls not demanding $600 ppm in the first message. Now they want to meet, setting dates and times and not discussing dollar figures. Just "please feed me" and "need help with traffic tickets" kinds of things. One would expect that the expired enhanced unemployment plus no stimulus plus this prolonged period of shutdowns and slowdowns for most jobs an SB would have to make them hungrier. And lower prices.

It seems that way. Hard to tell, I also took better profile photos which seems to have made a huge difference in my response rate.[/QUOTE]Its actually very annoying, I don't know what's happening in the market but I'm getting a lot of girls who think this is a courtship multiple dates to "hang out" lunches, dinners and no action. Of course I am not giving an allowance for these hang out sessions I'm just out the cost of a meal. But its very annoying. If I wanted to date someone traditionally I would be on Match or one of the other regular dating apps, really wasting my time with these hang outs!

[QUOTE=MaximusV;5017454]Its actually very annoying, I don't know what's happening in the market but I'm getting a lot of girls who think this is a courtship multiple dates to "hang out" lunches, dinners and no action. Of course I am not giving an allowance for these hang out sessions I'm just out the cost of a meal. But its very annoying. If I wanted to date someone traditionally I would be on Match or one of the other regular dating apps, really wasting my time with these hang outs![/QUOTE]Exactly. I got the same requests like you. Looks like they are trying to get free lunches or dinners. One girl from SDSU even asked me to compensate her 250 for each lunch / dinner time. I told her I will do if she is naked and have dinners with me.

[QUOTE=JWalker350;5017546]Exactly. I got the same requests like you. Looks like they are trying to get free lunches or dinners. One girl from SDSU even asked me to compensate her 250 for each lunch / dinner time. I told her I will do if she is naked and have dinners with me.[/QUOTE]I am seeing similar. As well as the usual scams of "oh I need $100 by venmo to get ready for our date" and "I have no monies for gas send even though we've never met". Another major one I notice is just "I am too busy to meet right now. ". Like, really? On a weekend? During a pandemic where you wouldn't be on this site if you had a job?

That seems to happen a lot, I have like a dozen girls who are going to meet "after Sunday" or "next weekend" until I get bored of texting them. I mean I offer them some money to meet, etc. I don't know exactly the reason for these. My guess is they are getting messaged by 'whales' : people who claim millions in assets, tease them with way above market perks and gifts. (be my mistress and you get a BMW! But they almost never actually manage to "close the deal" and GET these offered things. Because most of the men at that wealth level don't use SA and have other ways to get fresh mistresses, and most of the ones on SA are probably fakes.

[QUOTE=Habeed;5018447]I am seeing similar. As well as the usual scams of "oh I need $100 by venmo to get ready for our date" and "I have no monies for gas send even though we've never met". Another major one I notice is just "I am too busy to meet right now. ". Like, really? On a weekend? During a pandemic where you wouldn't be on this site if you had a job?

That seems to happen a lot, I have like a dozen girls who are going to meet "after Sunday" or "next weekend" until I get bored of texting them. I mean I offer them some money to meet, etc. I don't know exactly the reason for these. My guess is they are getting messaged by 'whales' : people who claim millions in assets, tease them with way above market perks and gifts. (be my mistress and you get a BMW! But they almost never actually manage to "close the deal" and GET these offered things. Because most of the men at that wealth level don't use SA and have other ways to get fresh mistresses, and most of the ones on SA are probably fakes.[/QUOTE]I think the girls have some scripts or notes and all are sending the same message: busy or let meet next week.

Agree, have been getting much of the same. "Platonic. I'm a good listener. Virtual only due to pandemic. Like we can have dinners and talk. Compensate me for my time. Gas money. Buy me something off my wishlist to show me you are serious. Cashapp me first. " When I get these types of responses, I remind them it "this is for mutually beneficial relationships" and they can figure out what I imply. On the SA DM system do not say sex=$ . On my profile I make the comment that I don't know any daddies that give sugar to watch someone stuff their pie hole, sit there and listen, or grace us with their presence. Otherwise, get in line, there's a waiting list 3 years long.

Has been like this for a while but is getting worse and worse. That's why I am done with SA last year. Just too much time and not going anywhere.

[QUOTE=MaximusV;5017454]Its actually very annoying, I don't know what's happening in the market but I'm getting a lot of girls who think this is a courtship multiple dates to "hang out" lunches, dinners and no action. Of course I am not giving an allowance for these hang out sessions I'm just out the cost of a meal. But its very annoying. If I wanted to date someone traditionally I would be on Match or one of the other regular dating apps, really wasting my time with these hang outs![/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=MaximusV;5017454]Its actually very annoying, I don't know what's happening in the market but I'm getting a lot of girls who think this is a courtship multiple dates to "hang out" lunches, dinners and no action. Of course I am not giving an allowance for these hang out sessions I'm just out the cost of a meal. But its very annoying. If I wanted to date someone traditionally I would be on Match or one of the other regular dating apps, really wasting my time with these hang outs![/QUOTE]All agreed, I never pay for meet and greets. I will meet a gal for lunch or coffee just to ease their concerns. But I also tell them before hand that if things go well during the meet and great I expect that we will go find a room afterwards. I find it laughable when they try to claim for their safety they won't accept cash. Always a sign of a scam. Yes SA is a rough place filled with scams but the best BBFS is found there as well.

[QUOTE=PaytoPlay;5020538]All agreed, I never pay for meet and greets. I will meet a gal for lunch or coffee just to ease their concerns. But I also tell them before hand that if things go well during the meet and great I expect that we will go find a room afterwards. I find it laughable when they try to claim for their safety they won't accept cash. Always a sign of a scam. Yes SA is a rough place filled with scams but the best BBFS is found there as well.[/QUOTE]This girl blocked me after I asked her to have any experience with SA arrangements.

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/8451b588-9352-4ca4-9ce4-11e2e90224bf[/URL]

[QUOTE=JWalker350;5021662]This girl blocked me after I asked her to have any experience with SA arrangements.

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/8451b588-9352-4ca4-9ce4-11e2e90224bf[/URL][/QUOTE]Your profile has been either deleted or deactivated. I don't think you are blocked.

This one says she will host for a 1 k ppm allowance. Good luck with that.

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/50655140-a6a4-4563-b342-8944da50930f[/URL]

And then saw her tonight on SA!

Very petite, slim. Has done porn, so should be an easy mark for some of you studs. Anyone indulged? Would love to know her "rate" ha ha

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/7f46a01a-209a-419a-8721-4c2276260841[/URL]

[QUOTE=PussyPumper;5024954]And then saw her tonight on SA!

Very petite, slim. Has done porn, so should be an easy mark for some of you studs. Anyone indulged? Would love to know her "rate" ha ha

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/7f46a01a-209a-419a-8721-4c2276260841[/URL][/QUOTE]Too bad her profile is gone. Likely she was looking for big $.

[QUOTE=PaytoPlay;5025543]Too bad her profile is gone. Likely she was looking for big $.[/QUOTE]Looks like she may not like you! .

[QUOTE=Shyzai;5023262]Your profile has been either deleted or deactivated. I don't think you are blocked.[/QUOTE]She blocked me first but she deactivated her profile about 4 hours after that. Possible she thought SD is an ATM but found none then deactivated.

[QUOTE=PussyPumper;5024954]And then saw her tonight on SA!

Very petite, slim. Has done porn, so should be an easy mark for some of you studs. Anyone indulged? Would love to know her "rate" ha ha

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/7f46a01a-209a-419a-8721-4c2276260841[/URL][/QUOTE]She's on listcrawler, reviews too. Looks like you can bang her for $140-200:

[URL]https://aypapi.com.listcrawler.eu/post/escorts/usa/california/sandiego/55090825/[/URL]

[QUOTE=PussyPumper;5025723]Looks like she may not like you! .[/QUOTE]LOL. I likely talked with her before and either thought she was a scammer, waste of time or just ridiculous. If I declare them a no go I will block them so I don't make the mistake trying later after my messages have disappeared. Either way. She's on the no list.

[QUOTE=PussyPumper;5024954]And then saw her tonight on SA!

Very petite, slim. Has done porn, so should be an easy mark for some of you studs. Anyone indulged? Would love to know her "rate" ha ha

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/7f46a01a-209a-419a-8721-4c2276260841[/URL][/QUOTE]I see her posts on listcrawler all the time. Outs only.

[QUOTE=BearD;5026099]I see her posts on listcrawler all the time. Outs only.[/QUOTE]But her SA rates / menu may be very different.

[QUOTE=PaytoPlay;5026025]LOL. I likely talked with her before and either thought she was a scammer, waste of time or just ridiculous. If I declare them a no go I will block them so I don't make the mistake trying later after my messages have disappeared. Either way. She's on the no list.[/QUOTE]

Not a scammer as far as I know. Very real, I see her often enough IRL - why I can't touch. For a really tiny girl, she does anal like a champ.

[QUOTE=BearD;5026099]I see her posts on listcrawler all the time. Outs only.[/QUOTE]This is her post from today.

[URL]https://escortbabylon.net/image_list/6198285867?gid=4ae01a43b63cf319b13b48592c5a8be8[/URL]

Would not have expected that. Astonishingly, all her photos are accurate. Did not think that was ever true on sites like that! The photo third down on the left is how she looks at present.

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/2d3f2d45-7490-4153-af5f-e385284311a9[/URL]

This gal looks good and is willing to go to the fc but has gps. She wants 5 benz. Maybe you guys could give it a try and bring her down even more.

This question has come up multiple times over the years.

The answer is almost certainly fingerprinting.

That is, even if you change your IP address, delete cookies etc. a website, in this case SA, can still identify you!

How? Via "fingerprinting".

That is, your operating system version, plus screen size, plus browser type, and various other settings are all discoverable by every website you visit. Taken together, they identify you. Maybe not uniquely, but good enough that it can be, snd is, routinely used to identify website visitors.

Test it yourself at

[URL]https://privacy.net/analyzer/[/URL]

So, to avoid this, SA users who have been banned need to not only change IP address, delete all cookies, not use same photos, etc, but also:

- Change browser.

- Change browser window size and / or screen resolution.

- Other changes to settings.

Good luck out there!

Could you post this in the de facto national thread for sugaring, Richmond VA? This is useful info I have never seen on here before, it likely ought to go into the archive that they keep of all the useful posts of that thread.

[QUOTE=PussyPumper;5029633]This question has come up multiple times over the years.

The answer is almost certainly fingerprinting.

That is, even if you change your IP address, delete cookies etc. a website, in this case SA, can still identify you!

How? Via "fingerprinting".

That is, your operating system version, plus screen size, plus browser type, and various other settings are all discoverable by every website you visit. Taken together, they identify you. Maybe not uniquely, but good enough that it can be, snd is, routinely used to identify website visitors.

Test it yourself at

[URL]https://privacy.net/analyzer/[/URL]

So, to avoid this, SA users who have been banned need to not only change IP address, delete all cookies, not use same photos, etc, but also:[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=FarFarAway;5030011]Could you post this in the de facto national thread for sugaring, Richmond VA? This is useful info I have never seen on here before, it likely ought to go into the archive that they keep of all the useful posts of that thread.[/QUOTE]Posted in Richmond forum.

* I use a pre paid credit card (because they store it).

* I don't have any full face pictures (because they keep all).

* I have more than 3 numbers that I maintain and I closed that thing called "Facebook" ages ago. (LOL, what is this? 2006?

If you just be careful, I would argue SA has far less information on me than, say, Tinder & Bumble.

I am no expert, but if NSA wants to track you, they can and it's only going to take a few minutes. In fact, just your local private investigators can run plates, track numbers and pull information via LE database.

When you load [URL]seeking.com[/URL], they are passing / sharing / using info with:

[URL]bing.com[/URL]

[URL]cloudflare.com[/URL]

[URL]doubleclick.net[/URL]

[URL]fullstory.com[/URL]

Go2 app. Org.

Google-[URL]analytics.com[/URL].

[URL]google.com[/URL]

[URL]googlesyndication.com[/URL]

[URL]googletagmanager.com[/URL]

[URL]googletagservices.com[/URL]

[URL]heapanalytics.com[/URL]

[URL]hotjar.com[/URL]

[URL]pages02.net[/URL]

[URL]pushcrew.com[/URL]

[URL]pusher.com[/URL]

Real-[URL]gifts.com[/URL].

Rflxm. Io.

Sentry-[URL]cdn.com[/URL].

[URL]visualwebsiteoptimizer.com[/URL]

Several of these are dedicated to storing and tracking web interactions.

[QUOTE=PussyPumper;5029633]This question has come up multiple times over the years.

The answer is almost certainly fingerprinting.

That is, even if you change your IP address, delete cookies etc. a website, in this case SA, can still identify you!

How? Via "fingerprinting".

That is, your operating system version, plus screen size, plus browser type, and various other settings are all discoverable by every website you visit. Taken together, they identify you. Maybe not uniquely, but good enough that it can be, snd is, routinely used to identify website visitors.

Test it yourself at

[URL]https://privacy.net/analyzer/[/URL]

So, to avoid this, SA users who have been banned need to not only change IP address, delete all cookies, not use same photos, etc, but also:

- Change browser.

- Change browser window size and / or screen resolution.

- Other changes to settings.

Good luck out there![/QUOTE]There are 2 things to add to this.

One:

If you are using an windows base Operating system. Every time you access a website that is using the right type of tracking set up it records you SID for your file system that is individualized per system.

Two:

?Website tacki8 ng soft ware can also save your MAC address which is embedded in all internet traffic per the TCP / IP suite standard. You can spoof you MAC address but it can get a bit tricky, and if you delve into the intricacies of TCP / IP it can be a rabbit hole.

Needless to say there are multiple bits of information that can be save about the system you are using to track a person.

I have not been able to log onto SA for a few months. Not an urgent problem because I am waiting for the Covid situation to improve before I resume play. But I would still like to browse the menu.

When I try to log on, I get multiple Captcha screens. After answering them correctly, I get the usual spinning wheel icon. But it lasts forever and I never get logged in.

I don't think SA has banned me. I still get promotions from them at my sugar email address, and I regularly get emails saying someone has favorited me or messaged me. But I can't get into the site.

Anyone else ever had this issue? How did you resolve it?

[QUOTE=DogBert77;5049762]I have not been able to log onto SA for a few months. Not an urgent problem because I am waiting for the Covid situation to improve before I resume play. But I would still like to browse the menu.

When I try to log on, I get multiple Captcha screens. After answering them correctly, I get the usual spinning wheel icon. But it lasts forever and I never get logged in.

I don't think SA has banned me. I still get promotions from them at my sugar email address, and I regularly get emails saying someone has favorited me or messaged me. But I can't get into the site.

Anyone else ever had this issue? How did you resolve it?[/QUOTE]Same thing. Try using different browser, Opera and Edge work for me. I emailed SA they did nothing.

GG.

After the pandemic started I cut back to one regular, and after she disappeared in May I did not renew my premium membership, or contact anyone. I just lurk from time to time. I wonder if others are doing the same, or if it is "business as usual"? I notice SA is offering 33% a discount, so I have the feeling they are hurting. But the way the pandemic is going, I won't be back until (if) there is a vaccine. I don't want to become a statistic.