Massage Parlor Reports

[QUOTE=Lascivious]Hell no. I only go for the young ones. I couldn't imagine getting it up for Mama. Although I bet they might have the best skills in the joint.[/QUOTE]Thats one reason for those low lit rooms. So you can barely see their faces clearly. Bodies felt smooth, hands soft, tight body, firm and erect melons, nice and moist lips (top and bottom lips). However when they turn the lights on at the end. You find out that you just banged a forty year old. LOL. I usually like to see a regular or I ask the mama san for a young girl if thats my first time there.

[QUOTE=Lascivious]Hell no. I only go for the young ones. I couldn't imagine getting it up for Mama. Although I bet they might have the best skills in the joint.[/QUOTE]Probably ... most of the mama-sans use to give massagees themselves ... back in the day.

[QUOTE=Blacken Hard]I'm pretty sure this place has moved to Mira Mesa, next to Burger King by the movie theathre. I've been 3 times, and have always gotten great service. The two girls I've seen were pretty thin though, I haven't seen any stacked girls at any of the places for a long time. (Still searching! )

I did go to the place on Miramar Rd recently, in Mira Mesa. I saw Pink who gave great service and was extremely pleasant. I think the prices are higher here than Escondido though. Usually $. 4 for anything past a CBJ. I used to work in Escondido and frequent Asia, Oriental, Sunset (legit but lots of fun), and Sundance when it was open. (Sundance was outstanding which is why it probably got shutdown.) I haven't been back in a few years, but sounds like I need to take a trip.[/QUOTE]Yo Black-

What's the cost at the Mira Mesa place? What services did you get or were available? PM me.

Never been there before. It's in a mini-mall with a auto parts store and a mini-mart. Fairly well hidden. Only a front entrance but it has an internal airlock sort of setup to separate the lobby from the business itself. Mama-san let me in right away and showed me a room. $60 for a half hour.

The room had a shower in it as well as what looked like a hottub hidden behind a curtain. Maybe it's a table for table showers, I didn't really look.

The masseuse was Julia. Very nice body, average to pretty face, in her 20s I believe but I'm not certain. She wore this adorable college student skirt that showed her belly. I've not seen a masseuse in contemporary clothes so that my be throwing my age guess off. I said I'd been there before but she was tentative. The backrub was pretty bad. I rubbed her leg a bit and she loosened up.

On the flip over we talked. She wanted $140 for the full deal. Normally it's double the gate and the gate was a bit high. I got oral for $110 and although it was good I still felt I'd overpaid.

[QUOTE=Ruprecht]Never been there before. It's in a mini-mall with a auto parts store and a mini-mart. Fairly well hidden. Only a front entrance but it has an internal airlock sort of setup to separate the lobby from the business itself. Mama-san let me in right away and showed me a room. $60 for a half hour.

The room had a shower in it as well as what looked like a hottub hidden behind a curtain. Maybe it's a table for table showers, I didn't really look.

The masseuse was Julia. Very nice body, average to pretty face, in her 20s I believe but I'm not certain. She wore this adorable college student skirt that showed her belly. I've not seen a masseuse in contemporary clothes so that my be throwing my age guess off. I said I'd been there before but she was tentative. The backrub was pretty bad. I rubbed her leg a bit and she loosened up.

On the flip over we talked. She wanted $140 for the full deal. Normally it's double the gate and the gate was a bit high. I got oral for $110 and although it was good I still felt I'd overpaid.[/QUOTE]It may be worth the drive up to Escondildo. At least there you have two places, Oriental Therapy and Asia Spa, where 1/2 hour massagee is still only $50 [$70 for 45 min. And $90 for hour]. And you can easily get FS for $. The girls there are mostly friendly, and they have some young ones. Candy at Asia Spa is [she told me] 26 years old. CeCe at Oriental therapy is older but still hot. Both give great FS. Asia Spa [I was told] always has 4 girls working at any given time, Oriental Therapy probably has 3. But any of these girls at either place can be had for $. Plus $50 for the gate. All in all, not a bad deal.

I like the thrill of trying new places, and adding new girls to my resume of conquest. But. It always sucks to pay good money for something that turns out to be a dud. There's always enough turnover of girls in any of these places to where you can still get variety, but at least know you're going to get what you came for.

This place is apparently still open. I'd seen it being "remodeled" over the Labor Day weekend, and thought maybe it had gone out of business. But when I drove by the other day, it now still has a neon "open" sign in the window. I'd heard this place kinda sucked, but if I decide to take a chance and try it out myself, I'll post a report.

There are a couple of bad things about going to a mp, 1 is you don't know who you are going to get, 2 right when they get you worked up they could switch on you and 3 first you pay for the price of the massage then you pay for the fun stuff.

The more we talk about where, how much and who then we can go to the places that suit our needs. I'm pretty sure they read this board because I had one girl ask me if I read the reviews of her from here.

[QUOTE=Ruprecht]Never been there before. It's in a mini-mall with a auto parts store and a mini-mart. Fairly well hidden. Only a front entrance but it has an internal airlock sort of setup to separate the lobby from the business itself. Mama-san let me in right away and showed me a room. $60 for a half hour.

The room had a shower in it as well as what looked like a hottub hidden behind a curtain. Maybe it's a table for table showers, I didn't really look.

The masseuse was Julia. Very nice body, average to pretty face, in her 20s I believe but I'm not certain. She wore this adorable college student skirt that showed her belly. I've not seen a masseuse in contemporary clothes so that my be throwing my age guess off. I said I'd been there before but she was tentative. The backrub was pretty bad. I rubbed her leg a bit and she loosened up.

On the flip over we talked. She wanted $140 for the full deal. Normally it's double the gate and the gate was a bit high. I got oral for $110 and although it was good I still felt I'd overpaid.[/QUOTE]

I keep hearing this chick's name here. Is this by any chance the same Jackie who used to own Crystal Spa in PB ? Man, she was hot!

[QUOTE=Juan Baldez]There are a couple of bad things about going to a mp, 1 is you don't know who you are going to get, 2 right when they get you worked up they could switch on you and 3 first you pay for the price of the massage then you pay for the fun stuff.

The more we talk about where, how much and who then we can go to the places that suit our needs. I'm pretty sure they read this board because I had one girl ask me if I read the reviews of her from here.[/QUOTE]But we like the AMPs :)

[QUOTE=Oreo69]I keep hearing this chick's name here. Is this by any chance the same Jackie who used to own Crystal Spa in PB ? Man, she was hot![/QUOTE]Yes, yes she was.

[QUOTE=Ruprecht]Never been there before. It's in a mini-mall with a auto parts store and a mini-mart. Fairly well hidden. Only a front entrance but it has an internal airlock sort of setup to separate the lobby from the business itself. Mama-san let me in right away and showed me a room. $60 for a half hour.

The room had a shower in it as well as what looked like a hottub hidden behind a curtain. Maybe it's a table for table showers, I didn't really look.

The masseuse was Julia. Very nice body, average to pretty face, in her 20s I believe but I'm not certain. She wore this adorable college student skirt that showed her belly. I've not seen a masseuse in contemporary clothes so that my be throwing my age guess off. I said I'd been there before but she was tentative. The backrub was pretty bad. I rubbed her leg a bit and she loosened up.

On the flip over we talked. She wanted $140 for the full deal. Normally it's double the gate and the gate was a bit high. I got oral for $110 and although it was good I still felt I'd overpaid.[/QUOTE]This is the old "$200 for everthing" that I've cum across before. $60 for the gate, plus $140 for FS. Jackie at Crystal Spa in PB used to do that to me all the time. Then again. She was worth it.

If AMP providers DO INDEED read these boards, then it is PARAMOUNT that an honest rating system be put on here, so that they can see the "criteria" that we mongers use to "evaluate" them by! Once they see, that a negative performance equals a NEGATIVE evaluation, they may change their "approaches", up to and including, PRICE!

[QUOTE=Juan Baldez]There are a couple of bad things about going to a mp, 1 is you don't know who you are going to get, 2 right when they get you worked up they could switch on you and 3 first you pay for the price of the massage then you pay for the fun stuff.

The more we talk about where, how much and who then we can go to the places that suit our needs. I'm pretty sure they read this board because I had one girl ask me if I read the reviews of her from here.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Redneck3565]If AMP providers DO INDEED read these boards, then it is PARAMOUNT that an honest rating system be put on here, so that they can see the "criteria" that we mongers use to "evaluate" them by! Once they see, that a negative performance equals a NEGATIVE evaluation, they may change their "approaches", up to and including, PRICE![/QUOTE]Do we really give a damn if they read these boards or not? They don't care, so why should we?

I have seen the sign, no ads in North county Times Classified?

Any info?

[QUOTE=Dctex99]I have seen the sign, no ads in North county Times Classified?

Any info?[/QUOTE]Dude,

If there's Asian chicks there, I'm in. I'll let ya know.

Good service, good price = 1
Bad Service, good price =2
Good service, over priced =3
Bad Service, over priced =4

I won't return if they score a 2, 3, or 4.

[QUOTE=Ruprecht]Good service, good price = 1
Bad Service, good price =2
Good service, over priced =3
Bad Service, over priced =4

I won't return if they score a 2, 3, or 4.[/QUOTE]I'd agree, although I still might return if they scored a 3. Assuming they were well-worth it. I used to pay Jackie at Crystal Spa $$ for the gate and FS combined. That's $50 more than I can get it for in Escondildo, but then again. She was hot. What I won't do is return if the service was bad, and/or the chick was not attractive. Been there, done that. Won't do it again. Or. If a chick I've been with before suddenty tries to jack her rates.

[QUOTE=Dctex99]I have seen the sign, no ads in North county Times Classified?

Any info?[/QUOTE]I took one for the team. Drove by there today, decided to walk in and check it out. Mama-san was thirty-something, and not half bad. I wanted to do her. But no. She was very friendly. Prices are same as Oriental Therapy and Asia Spa. $50 for half hour, $70 for 45 min, $90 for hour. Add $10 to price for table shower.

Place was clean. Mama-san led me to a room, futon mattress on floor, full length mirror in front of the head of the bed. As with Oriental Therapy, mama-san no longer takes the gate. Instead, they send in the girl to collect it. Not sure why they do it that way. Girl came in, she was a bit older. Told me her name was Linda, at which time I was pretty sure it's the same Linda who used to [maybe still does] work at Oriental Therapy as a mama-san. I'd heard that now she gives massages there. Funny. I'd always wanted to do her.

She came back in, I was lying face down naked. She first threw a towel over my ass. Not a good sign. That didn't last long, as she soon started putting the moves on. Reaching up underneath to grab, then started rubbing her tits and twat on my back. They all seem to do that to me. Anyway, she'd come prepared. She gave me a BJ a-la-natural, then slid a condom down on me. Proceeded to ride me, then we switched and she got on bottom. Let me suck her tits, but wouldn't let me do DATY. Kissed a lot though.

Anyway, she wasn't the tightest pussy I've ever had, but all in all, not bad. She did a great job cleaning me up, and a little more massagee after. She took her time, and I'm sure we went over the 1/2 hour time. Afterwards, I gave her $ tip, so that plus the $50 for the gate. $150 total, just like Oriental and Asia.

It's funny, these chicks don't' even ask, they just go for it. They never even try to negotiate a price up front. She then told me nex time I could ask for "younger, pretty girls". She told me names of JJ, Ruby, and either Lexi or Seven? Like JoAnn at Oriental therapy used to do, told me to always switch and try new girl next time. Like I'm being "rotated around".

I did see a hot younger girl on the way out. She was hopping in the shower off the hallway. I asked my girl who was that? She said "JJ". I will be going back to see JJ very soon. I'd still like to do mama-san there too. If only.

The place is on the right-hand side of Washington Ave as your'e going east, maybe a little less than a mile in from Center City Pkwy. Parking is only in rear. It's in a small little [outdoor] office complex. Nice descrete entrance. So now, I have 3 places to choose from in Escondidldo. Glad I tried it, I'll be going back again to sample the other girls there. Since I've been thru most of them at the other places.

Sorry Oreo69, but I had to laugh at your last post. To me to call a visit to an AMP as "TOFTT" has been where you go to the parlor and get a lame (or maybe adequate) massage and are offered NO EXTRAS.

What you describe is just the "luck of the draw" ... not a "stunner" but at least you walked away without the dreaded case of "blue balls".

Great report and better luck next time with JJ.

[QUOTE=OCTraveler]Sorry Oreo69, but I had to laugh at your last post. To me to call a visit to an AMP as "TOFTT" has been where you go to the parlor and get a lame (or maybe adequate) massage and are offered NO EXTRAS.

What you describe is just the "luck of the draw" ... not a "stunner" but at least you walked away without the dreaded case of "blue balls".

Great report and better luck next time with JJ.[/QUOTE]But, at least it's a new place with new girls that can all be had for $ :)

It's definitely worth a trip there.

In spirit, you're right, but "technically," I'd say it's any time you go into unreviewed territory. I guess for an AMP, it'd be more an unreviewed AMP than a unreviewed girl; with SWs or escorts, then we're talking the girl.

Just my .02

[QUOTE=OCTraveler]Sorry Oreo69, but I had to laugh at your last post. To me to call a visit to an AMP as "TOFTT" has been where you go to the parlor and get a lame (or maybe adequate) massage and are offered NO EXTRAS.

What you describe is just the "luck of the draw" ... not a "stunner" but at least you walked away without the dreaded case of "blue balls".

Great report and better luck next time with JJ.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=TwistedBrother]In spirit, you're right, but "technically," I'd say it's any time you go into unreviewed territory. I guess for an AMP, it'd be more an unreviewed AMP than a unreviewed girl; with SWs or escorts, then we're talking the girl.

Just my .02[/QUOTE]My experience with AMPs: If one girl will do it, [usually] they all will. I think they're told what to do and what not to do my the manager/owner.

Hey my fellow mongers, just wondering if anybody wants to join/ meet up and stroll the spas of SD together. Ive been going to Crystal spa in mira mesa for awhile and looking to expand if anybody wants to meet up or anything and try some new places.

Hey guys.

I'm from San Diego, originally, but have moved. Only REALLY recently have I started learning about AMPs - Bay Area is crazy - but I haven't actually gone to one, yet.

I'm going down to SD sometime soon and I was wondering if any of you guys knew a good FS AMP from near-Downtown and south?

I'm bummed about reading about the Oasis Spa - I would always walk by it and wonder why a spa was there. Oh, how naive. I lived right next to it.

[QUOTE=Sinon]Hey guys.

I'm from San Diego, originally, but have moved. Only REALLY recently have I started learning about AMPs - Bay Area is crazy - but I haven't actually gone to one, yet.

I'm going down to SD sometime soon and I was wondering if any of you guys knew a good FS AMP from near-Downtown and south?

I'm bummed about reading about the Oasis Spa - I would always walk by it and wonder why a spa was there. Oh, how naive. I lived right next to it.[/QUOTE]Not sure about downtown SD, but if you wanted to take a drive up to Escondildo. There's Oriental Therapy, Asia Spa, and the new Moonlight Accupressure. All can get you FS for $, plus another $. 5 for the gate. I've also heard there's one on Miramar Road that's ok. Never been there myself.

[QUOTE=Jack Smack147]Hey my fellow mongers, just wondering if anybody wants to join/ meet up and stroll the spas of SD together. Ive been going to Crystal spa in mira mesa for awhile and looking to expand if anybody wants to meet up or anything and try some new places.[/QUOTE]

Jack,

Are you paying? :-)

Sorry, could not resist... I think I'm ok trying out new places locally but if you wanted to head to TJ then I'm game. At a place like that it might be nice to go in a group so that we can watch out for each other...

Joe

[QUOTE=Joe Coodidge]Jack,

Are you paying? :-)

Sorry, could not resist... I think I'm ok trying out new places locally but if you wanted to head to TJ then I'm game. At a place like that it might be nice to go in a group so that we can watch out for each other...

Joe[/QUOTE]That was a good one! If I was pulling six figures I would. But yeah I'm pretty much new to all this. I've been only to about 2 AMPs. Has anybody tried getting two girls at the same time, would love to see how that goes. I'm always interested in orgy type situations.

[QUOTE=Jack Smack147]That was a good one! If I was pulling six figures I would. But yeah I'm pretty much new to all this. I've been only to about 2 AMPs. Has anybody tried getting two girls at the same time, would love to see how that goes. I'm always interested in orgy type situations.[/QUOTE]

Well Jack, you seem to be new to the forum so perhaps the best thing to do is to go at it alone for awhile and post your experiences. Don't mean to insult you but my concern is that you could be LE and trying to entrap someone to show you the hot spots...

Nothing personal, just cautious...

Joe

Anyone else besides me tried this place yet ? It's on Washington Ave in Escondildo about a mile or so east of Center City Parkway, on the right-hand side as your headed east. Nice discrete entrance, futons on the floor, young girls. Same prices as Asia Spa and Oriental Therapy.

[QUOTE=Oreo69]Anyone else besides me tried this place yet ? It's on Washington Ave in Escondildo about a mile or so east of Center City Parkway, on the right-hand side as your headed east. Nice discrete entrance, futons on the floor, young girls. Same prices as Asia Spa and Oriental Therapy.[/QUOTE]

Not yet but it is on my list...

Joe

[QUOTE=Joe Coodidge]Not yet but it is on my list...

Joe[/QUOTE]If you go on Wed or Sat, that's when Linda [the older one] works. So unless you want to bang a 50 yr old, ask for JJ, Coco, or Ruby. I'd personally like to do the mamasan there, she wasn't half bad. Anyway, be sure to give us a report.

Why is it that we're willing to perform DATY on these chicks, but yet we suit up before sticking our ding-dongs in there? Any of you guys ever manage to bareback any of these girls?

[QUOTE=Oreo69]Why is it that we're willing to perform DATY on these chicks, but yet we suit up before sticking our ding-dongs in there? Any of you guys ever manage to bareback any of these girls?[/QUOTE]

Oreo,

I've asked myself the same thing many times. Maybe (and I mean maybe) I might perform DATY on a provider at a private apartment. But certainly not an AMP or SW provider. Who knows where that pussy has been!

But perhaps this is something for discussion in another forum...

Joe

Does anyone know what happens to a monger caught during a LE raid?

What are the consequeces?

Is your empolyer notified?

What are safest times to go and what precautios to take?

I am a faculy at a SD univ but students, no matter how hot, are an absoulte no-no.

So I am thinking MPs might be a easy way to get some release.

Thanks for any help.

Saw this today...


Link: [url]http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/metro/20071012-2335-bn12brothel.html[/url]

Be careful out there!

Joe

[QUOTE=Joe Coodidge]Saw this today...

Link: [url]http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/metro/20071012-2335-bn12brothel.html[/url]

Be careful out there!

Joe[/QUOTE]I saw a report about this on the TV news as well. Apparently, it was a nice house rented in a real nice neighborhood in La Mesa. The mongers were parking down the street from the house in front of other neighbor's houses. The neighbors got suspicious with all the traffic and alerted the La Mesa PD, who researched the place on Craigslist to get the phone # then the add. Then, a sting. Reminds me of a similar place that was operated by 4 or 5 older ladies in La Mesa about 5 years of so ago, but also busted. That was a pretty nice place with decent service not withstanding the ages of the providers. No news whether the new place that was busted was asians.

[QUOTE=Bad Mash]Does anyone know what happens to a monger caught during a LE raid?

What are the consequeces?

Is your empolyer notified?

What are safest times to go and what precautios to take?

I am a faculy at a SD univ but students, no matter how hot, are an absoulte no-no.

So I am thinking MPs might be a easy way to get some release.

Thanks for any help.[/QUOTE]

Since our hobby is against the law, getting arrested always is an issue. But I've been doing this for 25 years and have never had any problems. My recommendations, for what they are worth:

1. Only go to well known AMP that have been reviewed here.
2. Try to see a provider who also has been mentioned here. I think the greatest risk, rather than being in the AMP when it is busted, is getting caught in a sting. where the providr actually is a LEO. After all, that really is the only way it can be absolutely proven that the monger did anything wrong.
3. Always get the provider to offer extras first. Also, try to touch the provider (respectfully) as much as possible and get her to touch you during the massage. If you are not covered with a towel from the start, you probably are safe. If you get caught in a sting when the provider offered extras first and/or touched you, you always can claim entrapment. Keep the Spidey-sense active. If something seems wrong, it probably is.
4. If you do get caught getting serviced during a bust, do not say anything and do not admit anything to the police. This is critical, especially since they probably will pressure you to make admissions.

[QUOTE=Bad Mash]Does anyone know what happens to a monger caught during a LE raid?

What are the consequeces?

Is your empolyer notified?

What are safest times to go and what precautios to take?

I am a faculy at a SD univ but students, no matter how hot, are an absoulte no-no.

So I am thinking MPs might be a easy way to get some release.

Thanks for any help.[/QUOTE]I persoanlly think that going to an AMP is a lot safer than say picking up a SW, or even a provider listed on Craig's List. Most of these AMPs have been around for a while, and thus my own feeling is. That they have some sort of "Arrangement" with LE. I mean, let's face it. LE knows what goes on in these places. In fact, they probably get serviced there themselves as part of their ongoing "Agreement".

I do know an AMP in Vista [Touch of Asia] got busted a year or so ago, along with another one in Vista. Some sort of "Health Spa". These both had Chinese girls only. I knew one of the girls who worked at Touch of Asia personally, and she and another girl there got busted when undercover cops posed as customers, and asked for FS.

However. I don't know what [if anything] would happen to a customer in any of these places. First of all, the girls always lock the doors behind them when them come into the room to give you a massage. Plus, they've likely been instructed by the ownership what to do in case of a situation like that. I would think. They'd quickly throw a towel over your private area. They also know how to get dressed very quickly. That being said. By the time anyone got thru the door, it should appear innocent enough. Sure. LE would question you. But I learned the hard way [from picking up a SW a long time ago]. Admit to nothing. They can try and intimidate you, but remember. You're innocent until proven guilty. They have to have proof.

I personally feel that using undercover cops, whether posing as customers in AMPs, or posing as SWs. Is a definite form of entrapment. I guess legally it's not, but it sucks nonetheless. LE must figure that if they turn up the heat on the Johns, then the Sws or AMPs will be out of business.

I used to do SWs, but no more. I used to go to TJ, but I don't feel comfortable going across the border anymore. That being said, I still feel AMPs are the best way to go. I've never once had a problem using any of them in PB or Escondido. And I do feel at least 99% safe there. There are several established AMPs around.

I could be wrong, I"m hardly an expert but...

AMPs get busted from time to time. It all depends upon the local politicians needing to show they're cleaning up this or that and they tell the cops to do it. Usually this happens when things are becoming a little too obvious, or if an AMP is in a more residential area. In non-residential you probably have hobbiests visiting local businesses to look non-chalant and thus not standing out as much.

It seems they usually bust the madam and a provider, perhaps two when they run a sting. They probably also get any hobbiest they can get to confess but unless you're caught in the act you will probably end up with charges dropped (assuming you didn't confess). They're not really after the hobbiests so much as making a big show that they're doing something.

[QUOTE=Ruprecht]I could be wrong, I"m hardly an expert but...

AMPs get busted from time to time. It all depends upon the local politicians needing to show they're cleaning up this or that and they tell the cops to do it. Usually this happens when things are becoming a little too obvious, or if an AMP is in a more residential area. In non-residential you probably have hobbiests visiting local businesses to look non-chalant and thus not standing out as much.

It seems they usually bust the madam and a provider, perhaps two when they run a sting. They probably also get any hobbiest they can get to confess but unless you're caught in the act you will probably end up with charges dropped (assuming you didn't confess). They're not really after the hobbiests so much as making a big show that they're doing something.[/QUOTE]That's a valid point, and one I can attest to from past experience with SWs. If you're there when a place is busted, NEVER confess to anything. LE will threaten to take you to jail if you don't talk to them. Let them. When I was much younger, I was in a motel room with two SWs in downtown SD. Back in the days long before Horton Plaza. More like when it was Whoreton Plaza. Anyway, I was young and scared, and the vice cop told me that nothing would come of it. So. I stupidly told him everything. Next thing I knew, the DA was filing charges against me for solicitation. I was scared sh*tless.

I spoke to our company attorney, and he just sort of laughed as if the DA had nothing better to do. But. He also said I should've instead just let them take me to jail. They'd have had nothing at the time to really hold me on, and thus I'd likely have been let go with no further consequences. But instead, I had to hire an attorney of my own, and go to court. He got the charges reduced to one count of "disturbing the peace". And thus no sex-offender charge on my record. This was back in 1976. So I don't know how things would go down now.

One thing I did see recently, and I'd found it online. It was clip from FOX channel 6 news, where they'd done a piece on AMPs as fronts for prostitution. Not sure how old the clip was. They showed the outside of two Escondido AMPs. Sundance and Oriental Therapy. Of course, Sundance has been shut down for a while, and I'm not even sure exactly where it was. Oriental Therapy is of course located in a strip mall, and thus perhaps the reason it was singled out. As opposed to say Asia Spa, which is in a different part of town.

I still believe these AMPs have "Arrangements" with LE and/or the city. They probably pay them off, either monetarily and/or sexually. I do know Touch of Asia in Vista, along with one other "Health Spa" somewhere in Vista, were both busted on the same day a couple of years ago. I knew one of the girls who got busted at Touch of Asia, and LE took her and the other girl to jail. These were both Chinese places, and unlike the Korean AMPs, they don't seem to have mamasans. Just the girls themselves who greet you when you come in, and take the gate fee. Otherwise, yes. They'd definitely take mamasan to jail too.