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[QUOTE=Alan Shore]I would like nothing more then to waste the night of a girl that was planning to rip off a few of my fellow hobbiest's.[/QUOTE]I'm in. Money's too tight to just let someone take it like that. But they do it because no one does anything about it. Let's even some scores here. Let me know when it's time to execute the game plan.
[QUOTE=Lv Panther]I'm in. Money's too tight to just let someone take it like that. But they do it because no one does anything about it. Let's even some scores here. Let me know when it's time to execute the game plan.[/QUOTE]I just call her today I told her I was staying at the venetian. She ask for my name I gave her my fake name Rusty Mccrow, she say she was goin to be in the venetian in 1 hour. Hehehe by the way I'm at home watching Spoonge Bob.
[quote]Originally Posted by Trendz Tampa
So I am off to Vegas for Labor Day. Anyone per chance have any rec's for mongering there?
PM would greatly be appreciated![/quote]When you go to Vegas, the outcall ads are EVERYWHERE and the turnover rate is off the chart. You will see what I mean. But it starts with full-serivce bucks just to come to the room, and THEN the negotiation begins.
The strip clubs have a lot available, but same deal. The girls are totally into seeing how much $$ they can get for a little as possible.
The word "provider" should be banned from Vegas.
But a somewhat new thing has popped up. AFRs. Asian Foot Rubs. They wash your feet in warm/hot water and give you the best foot rub you have probably ever had. They may or may not do arms/hands/shoulders. Then a skilled HE (no roaming IME). If the tables and machines are not being kind to you, and the walking has been rough on your dogs, I recommend a good foot rub. There was a place near the Rio with HYDRO in the name. Sorry cannot remember exactly.
Enjoy your trip.
J
Just went on TER and noticed that they made the "performance" section of the reviews "VIP only". What a piece of shit that site is. Fuck TER, I'm never going on that site again.
[QUOTE=Seville]Just went on TER and noticed that they made the "performance" section of the reviews "VIP only". What a piece of shit that site is. Fuck TER, I'm never going on that site again.[/QUOTE]
thanks for the great intel?
[QUOTE=Seville]Just went on TER and noticed that they made the "performance" section of the reviews "VIP only". What a piece of shit that site is. Fuck TER, I'm never going on that site again.[/QUOTE]
I've posted on this a few times , on my local board, but since it's come up again, I thought I'd share with you guys.
I saw a provider last year , that was so bad , I just got up and left , half way thru the session . She wouldn't do what she was suppose to ( just basic FS, nothing kinky) ,she wouldn't give any partial refund, just wanted to finnish me off with a HE. I came home and checked , sure enough she was on TER. All her reviews were good, I posted my negative review to warn everybody else what might happen to them. It never showed up !!! After a week of checking back , and it not being there, I emailed them to find out why. They sent me a form-type response for me to fill out describing the incident , with details to prove it really happened !! I gave very very specific details , of the girl, incall location, phone number , the odd way their two call system worked. Alot more info than I really wanted to own up to , just incase it came into the wrong hands. They sent back another email , saying they were unable to determine if I had actually been there , and they wouldn't post a negative review without more substantial evidence !!!! I thought the whole thing was a joke !! What do they want , a video of the visit ??? I looked around and saw several other girls that I know from our board , to be either robs, or very lackluster at best, or bait and switch, none of them had bad reviews !! There were a few that were not as flattering as the others, but not a bad report at all. I haven't been back on the site since, and am weary of girls who use them as their sole reference.
I hated to ramble on so , but just wanted you guys to know . personally I only trust reviews from fellow mongers on this site !!!
So post the ripoff artist's name and number here and maybe LEO will read and bust her! ! !
At least you'll be giving the readers a heads up about her! ! ! !
Stay safe,
OG
[QUOTE=Redskinzzfans]I've posted on this a few times , on my local board, but since it's come up again, I thought I'd share with you guys.
I saw a provider last year , that was so bad , I just got up and left , half way thru the session . She wouldn't do what she was suppose to ( just basic FS, nothing kinky) ,she wouldn't give any partial refund, just wanted to finnish me off with a HE. I came home and checked , sure enough she was on TER. All her reviews were good, I posted my negative review to warn everybody else what might happen to them. It never showed up !!! After a week of checking back , and it not being there, I emailed them to find out why. They sent me a form-type response for me to fill out describing the incident , with details to prove it really happened !! I gave very very specific details , of the girl, incall location, phone number , the odd way their two call system worked. Alot more info than I really wanted to own up to , just incase it came into the wrong hands. They sent back another email , saying they were unable to determine if I had actually been there , and they wouldn't post a negative review without more substantial evidence !!!! I thought the whole thing was a joke !! What do they want , a video of the visit ??? I looked around and saw several other girls that I know from our board , to be either robs, or very lackluster at best, or bait and switch, none of them had bad reviews !! There were a few that were not as flattering as the others, but not a bad report at all. I haven't been back on the site since, and am weary of girls who use them as their sole reference.
I hated to ramble on so , but just wanted you guys to know . personally I only trust reviews from fellow mongers on this site !!![/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Older Guy]So post the ripoff artist's name and number here and maybe LEO will read and bust her! ! !
At least you'll be giving the readers a heads up about her! ! ! !
Stay safe,
OG[/QUOTE]When a girl is ripping people off or worse she presents a big problem. People who get taken or even mugged get pissed and really bad, bad things can happen. I don't think people care much if there's nothing going on but rents getting paid and Johns leaving happy. But when it turns into a roll, violence can occur. LEO doesn't like that.
[QUOTE=Nemodc]photo (attached) at least reasonably accurate?
Nemo[/QUOTE]Yes, she looks fairly similar. She is tall. Probably at least 5'10", beautiful and friendly. Lost $$$$$$ fellas. Big bummer! Ya live and learn.
[QUOTE=Lv Panther]I'm in. Money's too tight to just let someone take it like that. But they do it because no one does anything about it. Let's even some scores here. Let me know when it's time to execute the game plan.[/QUOTE]I would love to even some scores! I was beyond pissed.
[QUOTE=Smokey1981]We should play with her.
Lets call her and arrange a fake meet in any hotel hehehe...it would be funny to see her jumping from hotel to hotel XOXOXO FARRAH 702-609-0224[/QUOTE]That's Awesome!!.. I'm going to a new payphone everyday and doing that.
Thanks for the idea. It would be awesome if everyone chipped it, too! lol
Saw this woman about a year ago and I see that she's still advertising.
[url]http://*******.com/nu5ze5[/url]
She is the woman in the pics but her service is not as advertised or as discussed when she arrived. I saw her at a strip hotel. The FS was restricted to one position, so that she could limit what I was doing and how deep I could go. She was trying to substitute her hand for another body part. Very rushed.
J
"Police arrest man accused of assaulting prostitutes"
Be careful out there.
[url]http://www.lvrj.com/news/breaking_news/Police-arrest-man-accused-of-assaulting-prostitutes-61211227.html[/url]
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Went out yesterday picked up a BSW on Trop. Said her name was Wylynda; said she was moving to Oregon soon. She agreed for BJ for $40. While getting BJ she agreed to FS for $40 more. I told her I would go to the ATM afterwards and get the $40 she agreed to this.
When I get to the ATM, she tells me I took too long and she wanted an $200 total or she would call the police and say that I raped her. I tell her that wasn't the deal and that I won't pay. She starts yelling at me. I feel this is going to be a problem. I ended up giving her an extra $100 just to get her to shut the fuck up.
I had a few drinks and didn't want to deal with police. Otherwise I wouldn't have gave her shit. I am a good guy with no criminal record. What are the chances of her actually calling the police? What are the chances me getting into trouble over this? I would have felt real goofy having to explain myself being with a prostitute to a cop.
Any advice? What would you have done in this situation?
I just didn't want to end up like the guy in post #56.
[QUOTE=Whorehunter]Went out yesterday picked up a BSW on Trop. Said her name was Wylynda; said she was moving to Oregon soon. She agreed for BJ for $40. While getting BJ she agreed to FS for $40 more. I told her I would go to the ATM afterwards and get the $40 she agreed to this.
When I get to the ATM, she tells me I took too long and she wanted an $200 total or she would call the police and say that I raped her. I tell her that wasn't the deal and that I won't pay. She starts yelling at me. I feel this is going to be a problem. I ended up giving her an extra $100 just to get her to shut the fuck up.
I had a few drinks and didn't want to deal with police. Otherwise I wouldn't have gave her shit. I am a good guy with no criminal record. What are the chances of her actually calling the police? What are the chances me getting into trouble over this? I would have felt real goofy having to explain myself being with a prostitute to a cop.
Any advice? What would you have done in this situation?
I just didn't want to end up like the guy in post #56.[/QUOTE]I always have what i am going to spend with me. I never go to atm. To many things can happen when you get out of car or go to ATM like you just did. What if your being tailed by her pimp and get jumped at the ATM? I never ever go there.
If the deal was $40 or $80, that it, I wouldn't let her see my extra money, that way she knows (she thinks) that I don't have any more money!
On your case since you went to ATM, she knew that you could get more money!
Always be safe!
[QUOTE=Whorehunter]Went out yesterday picked up a BSW on Trop. Said her name was Wylynda; said she was moving to Oregon soon. She agreed for BJ for $40. While getting BJ she agreed to FS for $40 more. I told her I would go to the ATM afterwards and get the $40 she agreed to this.
When I get to the ATM, she tells me I took too long and she wanted an $200 total or she would call the police and say that I raped her. I tell her that wasn't the deal and that I won't pay. She starts yelling at me. I feel this is going to be a problem. I ended up giving her an extra $100 just to get her to shut the fuck up.
I had a few drinks and didn't want to deal with police. Otherwise I wouldn't have gave her shit. I am a good guy with no criminal record. What are the chances of her actually calling the police? What are the chances me getting into trouble over this? I would have felt real goofy having to explain myself being with a prostitute to a cop.
Any advice? What would you have done in this situation?
I just didn't want to end up like the guy in post #56.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Whorehunter]Went out yesterday picked up a BSW on Trop. Said her name was Wylynda; said she was moving to Oregon soon. She agreed for BJ for $40. While getting BJ she agreed to FS for $40 more. I told her I would go to the ATM afterwards and get the $40 she agreed to this.
When I get to the ATM, she tells me I took too long and she wanted an $200 total or she would call the police and say that I raped her. I tell her that wasn't the deal and that I won't pay. She starts yelling at me. I feel this is going to be a problem. I ended up giving her an extra $100 just to get her to shut the fuck up.
I had a few drinks and didn't want to deal with police. Otherwise I wouldn't have gave her shit. I am a good guy with no criminal record. What are the chances of her actually calling the police? What are the chances me getting into trouble over this? I would have felt real goofy having to explain myself being with a prostitute to a cop.
Any advice? What would you have done in this situation?
I just didn't want to end up like the guy in post #56.[/QUOTE]
I would have called her bluff, picked up my cell phone and called the police (or maybe pretended to). I had one in my car once who wouldn't get out till I gave her money. I drove to the nearest McD, that happened to have a off duty policeman as security. I pulled in the parking lot and started blowig my horn. She got out real quick. Those ladies don't want any trouble. Who will the police believe: a SW with a reputation or the person that called the police?
Looks like another one got burnt:
[quote]LAS Vegas Taxi Scam Passion Massage Scam (LAS Vegas)
Date: 2009-11-06, 12:37AM PST
Reply to: see below
Taxi driver took me to a Passion Massage on Spring Mountain RD. Do not trust any taxi driver offer to take you to a massage place unless you know where you are going.
The massage place SCAMMED me over $400 massaging hands and ears and told me to pay more for VIP service and you are in controll.
I found these feedbacks from other people been scammed at the same location.
"Yes, they did it again to me and my friend. Don't trust any taxi driver in Las Vegas. They get paid to bring you there. $160 to massage your hands. Texi driver 17024819510. Do trust any taxi driver. "
by jonathan w
"a complete con. girls r ugly and fat mexican guy looks like hes gonna kill you if you question what ur paying for
by Johnny Vegas
"The place is a scam. $200 to get in $200 next room. Hand massage only. Passions in Las Vegas is a store front robbery"
by SCAM
It's a SCAM. THey tell you to pay up front and then go to the next room and ask you if you want the special service for another $200.00 but will never tell you what it is. Then they will bring you to another room and ask if you want to go to the bedroom for the VIP service. When you get there, nothing happens and they massage your feet, hands, and ears! THats it and then a fat mexican gangster escorts you out. "
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This article was in a recent Las Vegas Sun on 11-4-09.
[URL]http://www.lasvegassun.com/news/2009/nov/04/their-valuables-gone-their-ladies-night/[/URL]
[B]Their valuables gone, like their ladies of the night[/B]
More than $2 million is likely be stolen in ’09 in ‘trick rolls’ in which a prostitute robs a client
By Abigail Goldman
Wednesday, Nov. 4, 2009 | 2 a.m.
Not even prostitution is immune to economics of supply, demand (12-14-2008)
Hawking erotic services? Craigslist now has your number (11-29-2008)
People in the company of Clark County prostitutes collectively reported having $1.4 million in cash and goods stolen from them during the first nine months of this year — dupes of a larceny genre better known to police as the “trick roll.”
By year’s end, it’s estimated the total reported losses will exceed $2 million — almost double last year’s total, and probably a fraction of the real amount.
How many people file police reports, after all, when their prostitutes disappoint?
Enough, at least, for Metro vice detectives to determine the problem is getting worse, and assign two detectives to trick roll investigations exclusively. They’ve gotten roughly one case every day this year. In 2007 it was more like one a week.
That increase could have something to do with the economy. Fewer tourists with less money means supply exceeds demand. Prices drop and competition ratchets up for prostitutes, many of whom police say must meet nightly quotas set by pimps. Metro Sgt. Donald Hoier, though, says the problem picked up before the economy fell, simply because Clark County was saturated with sex workers and outlets for illicit entertainment.
When everybody scrambles for the same pool of money, bad seeds take short cuts.
Consider the reported losses Hoier reads from a list of cases: $10,000 in cash, casino chips and a laptop; $30,000 in cash and chips; $20,000 Rolex; $6,000 Rolex; $5,000 cash; and — perhaps the most interesting, a case Hoier can only hint at — $175,000 in casino chips.
These are preposterous amounts, which is probably why they were reported in the first place.
Sometimes these are crimes of opportunity. A watch is left out, a laptop is folded in the corner.
But there are prostitutes for whom sex is only a pretext to theft, and others who have no intention of sleeping with their clients, Hoier said. They know how to exploit angles and mirrors to see safe codes being punched, while others, Hoier says, actually become good at identifying the tones assigned to each number on the key pads.
“While he’s in the shower,” Hoier says, “she’s taking everything.”
Drugs are slipped into drinks. Clients are escorted to ATMs for payment, only to find their cards have been stolen by someone who surreptitiously saw the pin number. Two women come to one room and run lewd tactical diversion.
But sometimes it’s just a matter of violence.
Prostitutes have pulled guns. Pimps, waiting nearby, Hoier says, have beaten people just shy of death.
All of this is easier to accomplish when the target fits a preferred profile: intoxicated and alone.
Susan Lopez, founder of the Las Vegas chapter of the Sex Workers Outreach Project, a national group dedicated to sex workers’ rights, said the economy is definitely a factor in the uptick.
“There are a lot of transient sex workers who come here because they think it’s going to be more profitable,” she said, adding that it’s widely felt that “most of the people who are committing these infractions are pimped women, and women who answer to somebody.”
Women who steal from their clients give a shamed industry a bad name, Lopez said, much to the frustration of local, independent sex workers who take their occupations, and reputations, seriously.
At the same time, however, “the girls kind of feel like it’s the guy’s own stupid fault — when desperate and drunk people get together, they don’t have a good time.”
For the record, Hoier says, trick rolls happen everywhere. High- and low-end casinos, on the street when a prostitute brings a client down a dark alley, and outside strip clubs, when dancers go home with clients.
In one case, a couple having an affair in Las Vegas hired a prostitute. The female client later realized her engagement ring, purchased by her fiancee back home, was stolen.
In a different case, a woman approached local men in nightclubs, spent weeks getting to know them (and the layouts of their homes), then drugged them before executing high-dollar burglaries.
There’s often a gap between the theft and the time it’s discovered, which complicates things for police. Even when clients realize right away, prostitutes have vanished down access stairs and out emergency exits, avoiding notice or handing the goods off to someone else.
Getting people to come forward is another problem. To this end, police carefully explain, misdemeanor crimes, like soliciting a prostitute, only lead to an arrest when they occur in the presence of police. Other trick rolls are never categorized as such, because johns hide their real relationships to the thieves.
When cases are opened, they often reveal other related crimes. Lately, for example, trick rolls are feeding identity theft. Other times, thieving prostitutes lead vice detectives back to violent pimps.
“It happens more than you’d probably think,” Hoier said. “A lot of women would rather steal from these guys than work as prostitutes.”
As a general rule- visitors to Vegas should avoid American massage parlors. Some of the asian ones might be ok- not sure, but the American ones are clip joints that will take you for alot of money upselling with no happy ending. When I was in town a cab driver tried getting me to go to one because they get kick backs- I politely told him no thanks. Luckily I found this board and researched some info ahead of time so I knew about it- -just wanted to inform others.
[url]http://www.eros-lasvegas.com/files/88944.htm[/url]
My friend called up this provider and was told that she offered 1hr GFE for $$$. She arrived after a couple of hours and was definitely not the girl in the pictures; though she was cute.
That was red flag #1.
They were about to get down to business when she told him the the $$$$ was just to get her to the room and that FS would be, get this crap, $1700 more. My friend was speechless at first but confirmed the asking price.
That was the full red alert, shields up signal.
Needless to say he told her to get out, but then she suddenly said she had a deal for $ more. He still should had said no but the little head got the better of him.
He said the service was decent and that she had a nice body. Standard CBJ and Mish, doggie etc.
Can't wait to hit the AMP's back home.
Stay away from this girl brothers!
[QUOTE=Chikan San][url]http://www.Eros-lasvegas.com/files/88944.htm[/url]
My friend called up this provider and was told that she offered 1hr GFE for $$$. She arrived after a couple of hours and was definitely not the girl in the pictures; though she was cute.
That was red flag #1.
They were about to get down to business when she told him the the $$$$ was just to get her to the room and that FS would be, get this crap, $1700 more. My friend was speechless at first but confirmed the asking price.
That was the full red alert, shields up signal.
Needless to say he told her to get out, but then she suddenly said she had a deal for $ more. He still should had said no but the little head got the better of him.
He said the service was decent and that she had a nice body. Standard CBJ and Mish, doggie etc.
Can't wait to hit the AMP's back home.
Stay away from this girl brothers![/QUOTE]Same pics for a ******** ad under name Jazmen Lee. Wanted to hit it about a year ago but started seeing same pic show up with different name. Sure sign it is an agency.
[QUOTE=Seville]Same pics for a ******** ad under name Jazmen Lee. Wanted to hit it about a year ago but started seeing same pic show up with different name. Sure sign it is an agency.[/QUOTE]
Boy I'm glad I saw this !!! I was just about to schedule with Jazmen Lee last time I was there . I did actually call her , I didn't get the " agency vibe " when I spoke with her , but the call was to check on the lead time she I needed to give her for an appointment . Found the Asian CG's , so didn't bother with a callback . I was holding the number for my next visit. Guess I can toss that one out !!
[QUOTE=Redskinzzfans]Boy I'm glad I saw this !!! I was just about to schedule with Jazmen Lee last time I was there . I did actually call her , I didn't get the " agency vibe " when I spoke with her , but the call was to check on the lead time she I needed to give her for an appointment . Found the Asian CG's , so didn't bother with a callback . I was holding the number for my next visit. Guess I can toss that one out !![/QUOTE]IMHO, I would recommend staying away from agencies at all costs. I spent 5 years in Vegas (located to AZ) and have heard horror stories from friends. The problem associated with that is most CL, BP, or Eros ads are agencies. It can be rather hard to tell which ad is agency vs independant. Your better off walking the strip and casinos for girls than trying an add in LV and shorting yourself out of $$$$ for perhaps a hj or less.
[QUOTE=James Morris]IMHO, I would recommend staying away from agencies at all costs. I spent 5 years in Vegas (located to AZ) and have heard horror stories from friends. The problem associated with that is most CL, BP, or Eros ads are agencies. It can be rather hard to tell which ad is agency vs independant. Your better off walking the strip and casinos for girls than trying an add in LV and shorting yourself out of $$$$ for perhaps a HJ or less.[/QUOTE]What an understatement. My first Las Vegas experience occured earlier this year. It was also my first attempt at any sort of p4p. I sorely wish I had discovered this forum prior to that experience. I contacted two so-called Independents on eros. What a nightmare. Both looked only vaguely like their pic and am now certain they were NOT the person photographed. But they're close enough that you spend the entire encounter reaching that conclusion.
The first one, Britney, listed herself as 18 just a few months ago. I notice now she's listed as 21. That's a fast aging. We negotiated a FS price for all night. She arrived hours late and promised she would stay later in the morning but ended up leaving several hours early. She was paid VERY well for a 12 hour that turned into about 3-1/2 hours. She was anything but full service. Lesson learned- don't pay it all upfront for a full night. I don't mind smokers but she was filthy with the habit. Hygene was poor. I notice she now lists herself twice as "nicollette".
The next contact is now long gone and did almost nothing what she was paid for, leaving after only 20 minutes.
Eros is a complete ripoff. Its a scam.
Wow, thanks for the post. I've seen this one in a couple of online porn site movies. Thought I was going to get a chance at that, but I guess not now.
[QUOTE=Chikan San][url]http://www.eros-lasvegas.com/files/88944.htm[/url]
My friend called up this provider and was told that she offered 1hr GFE for $$$. She arrived after a couple of hours and was definitely not the girl in the pictures; though she was cute.
That was red flag #1.
They were about to get down to business when she told him the the $$$$ was just to get her to the room and that FS would be, get this crap, $1700 more. My friend was speechless at first but confirmed the asking price.
That was the full red alert, shields up signal.
Needless to say he told her to get out, but then she suddenly said she had a deal for $ more. He still should had said no but the little head got the better of him.
He said the service was decent and that she had a nice body. Standard CBJ and Mish, doggie etc.
Can't wait to hit the AMP's back home.
Stay away from this girl brothers![/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=James Morris]IMHO, I would recommend staying away from agencies at all costs. I spent 5 years in Vegas (located to AZ) and have heard horror stories from friends. The problem associated with that is most CL, BP, or Eros ads are agencies. It can be rather hard to tell which ad is agency vs independant. Your better off walking the strip and casinos for girls than trying an add in LV and shorting yourself out of $$$$ for perhaps a hj or less.[/QUOTE]
I agree with this statement; avoid Vegas agencies. With one exception. I have used LV 100 Proof and saw Clover. She was just as promised, no games and no problems. Even got a call from the guy who runs the show after the fact asking how things went.
Friend of mine was brought to a clip joint in Vegas by a cab driver.
Every couple of months he has called the cabbie at odd hours and says, "I'm at xxxxxxxx hotel and need a ride to xxxxxxxx strip club".
When the cabbie calls to say "Where are you?" he replies, "I'll be there in 15 minutes."
I went to Vegas at 16. I looked old.
I never got carded, and had a terrific time.
I ask a cabbie on the strip to take me to a place where they have some working girls.
Cabbie asked me if I liked "massages"
I said "sure"
He says, "There is this hand and foot massage place, but the girls in there will give you a great time if you tip them right"
I go there $60 cover.
Ok.
I talk to a guy who helps bring a girl out, I talk to a couple, choose one. He gives me a story:
"Man this is the only way I get paid, its usually a $50 service fee"
I ask "Do I have to pay it? ". The guy didn't do a thing really. Just drinking hanging out.
He says "no. But its the only way I make money"
I was young and dumb so I pay him $50 because it was in my hand after the change I just got for the cover. (I threw in an extra $10 like an idiot)
So I get to the room its $100 for "nice" room otherwise I get a room with no flowers, and music, and bullshit. So I pay.
$200 in already.
Somehow I end up spending another $300 with the girl after she promises all sorts of craziness, and the money flies out of my pocket (keep in mind I'm a horny 16yr old) and she starts to rub on my knees, and starts to massage my feet.
I try and get her hands to fondle me a bit, but she resists.
RED FLAG.
She said " We don't do that here"
I talk to her, try and feel out the situation, but realize that I just got duped.
I am pissed, I end up getting a retarded, messy hand and foot massage for $500 fucking dollars and I leave.
Some kid pulls up in another cab, and I tell him "its a scam. They fucking stole my money" The bouncer rushed me out of there because he knew I was pissed, the guy was an intimidating motherfucker, and he had just thrown out some other guy prior to me DEMANDING sex, so I went fairly quietly.
Forgot the places name, but it was 10 minutes from the strip, probably shut down by now. This was years back.
[url]http://www.fox5vegas.com/news/24531162/detail.html[/url]
Arrest report:
[url]http://www.fox5vegas.com/download/2010/0806/24543554.pdf[/url]
[url]http://www.8newsnow.com/Global/story.asp?S=12926389[/url]
SWAT Team and Vice Detectives Raid Businesses
LAS VEGAS -- As the sun was coming up Wednesday morning, Las Vegas Metro's SWAT Team targeted three businesses police believe are scamming customers out of money, using sex as a selling point.
Investigators say
Club Exclusive II
Entyce
and Sensations
are all running the same scam -- employees are fooling customers into thinking they can pay for sex.
"Certainly, the illusion of what they're going to get when they get here is no mistake, otherwise we wouldn't have hundreds of men coming to these establishments and leaving disgruntled that they didn't get what they thought they were coming here for," said Metro Vice Lt. Karen Hughes.
Club Exclusive II was Metro's first stop. As with all of the business, they are licensed in Clark County and are suppose to be a reflexology establishment, which is the practice of massaging hands, feet and earlobes. But Lt. Hughes says that was just part of what was going on inside. She says the female employees would lure customers into thinking more was in store if they paid up.
"They're getting upsold into other rooms in order to see those kinds of acts become fulfilled. Those things never happened," said Hughes.
Instead, after they pay, police say a security guard, sometimes armed, forces them out.
"The victims were defrauded, coerced, robbed, beaten," said Metro Sgt. Lenny Larusso.
As SWAT was pulling away from Club Exclusive II, the alleged operator showed up and was quickly taken into custody. The Secretary of State's website lists the owner as James Buford.
It was a similar story at both Entyce and Sensations. Police made approximately 20 arrests. The suspects could face several charges, including racketeering, coercion, robbery and fraud.
Metro not only picked up the alleged operators of these businesses, but also the female workers. They say they are also going to go after the cab drivers responsible for bringing potential victims to places like Sensations.
"We've had as many in an hour -- 10 to 15 cabs come to some of these places," said Sgt. Larusso.
"They are in cahoots with the cab drivers. The cab drivers are getting kickbacks to bring victims here, sometimes as high as $180 per client," said Lt. Hughes.
Metro says as many as 100 taxi drivers could be arrested and or lose their license. Those arrests are expected in the coming weeks. The Taxicab Authority has also been working closely with Metro for this investigation.
For now, police hope these businesses never get to open back up.
"These businesses are a sham. They are here to take money without offering any legitimate service and we're hoping that their licenses are revoked," said Hughes.
She usually posts on CL. These are her last two posts.
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She won't mention cost until she gets to you. Made the mistake of leaving $ on my bed and she tried to leave saying that fs is more. I said I changed my mind and she pulled the disclaimer bs "it's for my time", but I could get CBJ for it. I went with the boring CBJ that she gave and I strongly recommend that you all pass on her. You will meet ROB.
In town for AVN. Called Kimmy off backpage early one morning.
Negotiated 200 and I specifically asked her if the 200 is "all-inclusive" to which she replied yes.
Met at my hotel, and put the 200 on the counter. Then she asks if I had money for a tip so she could "get more comfortable". I asked her what my 200 paid for, even though she said it was all inclusive. She said just a BJ and anything more would be extra.
It was frustrating that I was being upsold, so I told her to just give the BJ, after about 5 min of continuing to upsell, she finally started CBJ. After about 2 minutes (not exaggerating) she asked if I was ready to cum. I looked at her like she was an idiot and said no. She again tried to upsell, which began to really just piss me off and make it harder to relax. She asked if it would be better to have her finish me with her hand with no condom. I said,"whatever". Seriously, after about 10 strokes, she asked if I was ready to come. I told her to just forget it, I'm done, just get out.
Total ripoff, total upsell. Unfortunately, that's part of the risk in the hobby biz. Maybe I can help my fellow mongers avoid an upsell. Even If I did pay more, I got the feeling that the experience would have been rather lame. Avoid Kimmy:
Hi Guys,
My name is Kimmy. The sweet and sexy brunette you have been missing.
I am a sweet and classy girl with a bit of a wildside and curves in all the right places. Looking to have a little fun, so if you are also then I'm your girl!
Call Me.
*702*202*1291
P. S. The pictures look somewhat like her, but not really. She's latina, and heavier than in the pic. The pics may be her, but a few years old.
Unfortunate and typical lv scam.
After rtff consider google and tineye your friend or choose a well reviewed provider.
Blnt
[QUOTE=Kaydee; 1119845]In town for AVN. Called Kimmy off backpage early one morning.
Negotiated 200 and I specifically asked her if the 200 is "all-inclusive" to which she replied yes.
Met at my hotel, and put the 200 on the counter. Then she asks if I had money for a tip so she could "get more comfortable". I asked her what my 200 paid for, even though she said it was all inclusive. She said just a BJ and anything more would be extra.
It was frustrating that I was being upsold, so I told her to just give the BJ, after about 5 min of continuing to upsell, she finally started CBJ. After about 2 minutes (not exaggerating) she asked if I was ready to cum. I looked at her like she was an idiot and said no. She again tried to upsell, which began to really just piss me off and make it harder to relax. She asked if it would be better to have her finish me with her hand with no condom. I said,"whatever". Seriously, after about 10 strokes, she asked if I was ready to come. I told her to just forget it, I'm done, just get out.
Total ripoff, total upsell. Unfortunately, that's part of the risk in the hobby biz. Maybe I can help my fellow mongers avoid an upsell. Even If I did pay more, I got the feeling that the experience would have been rather lame. Avoid Kimmy:
Hi Guys,
My name is Kimmy. The sweet and sexy brunette you have been missing.
I am a sweet and classy girl with a bit of a wildside and curves in all the right places. Looking to have a little fun, so if you are also then I'm your girl!
Call Me.
*702*202*1291
P. S. The pictures look somewhat like her, but not really. She's latina, and heavier than in the pic. The pics may be her, but a few years old.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Kaydee; 1119845]In town for AVN. Called Kimmy off backpage early one morning.
Negotiated 200 and I specifically asked her if the 200 is "all-inclusive" to which she replied yes.
Met at my hotel, and put the 200 on the counter. Then she asks if I had money for a tip so she could "get more comfortable". I asked her what my 200 paid for, even though she said it was all inclusive. She said just a BJ and anything more would be extra.
It was frustrating that I was being upsold, so I told her to just give the BJ, after about 5 min of continuing to upsell, she finally started CBJ. After about 2 minutes (not exaggerating) she asked if I was ready to cum. I looked at her like she was an idiot and said no. She again tried to upsell, which began to really just piss me off and make it harder to relax. She asked if it would be better to have her finish me with her hand with no condom. I said,"whatever". Seriously, after about 10 strokes, she asked if I was ready to come. I told her to just forget it, I'm done, just get out.
Total ripoff, total upsell. Unfortunately, that's part of the risk in the hobby biz. Maybe I can help my fellow mongers avoid an upsell. Even If I did pay more, I got the feeling that the experience would have been rather lame. Avoid Kimmy:
[quote]Hi Guys,
My name is Kimmy. The sweet and sexy brunette you have been missing.
I am a sweet and classy girl with a bit of a wildside and curves in all the right places. Looking to have a little fun, so if you are also then I'm your girl!
Call Me.
*702*202*1291
P. S. The pictures look somewhat like her, but not really. She's latina, and heavier than in the pic. The pics may be her, but a few years old.[/quote][/QUOTE]I've seen her ad and good thing I didn't partake. Thanks for the warning.
DJP
[QUOTE=Dj Platinum; 1120584]I've seen her ad and good thing I didn't partake. Thanks for the warning.
DJP[/QUOTE]Seems like this is happening a lot out there. A friend of mine visited over New Years said the same thing happened to him. $$ upfront then she changed into some lingerie and said anything else would be extra. FS anothe $$$.
All he got was a very expensive lap dance. For 3 songs! She was there less then 20 minutes.
When I come out there I will stay away from BP.
[QUOTE=Vbgent4u2c; 1120790]Seems like this is happening a lot out there. A friend of mine visited over New Years said the same thing happened to him. $$ upfront then she changed into some lingerie and said anything else would be extra. FS anothe $$$.
All he got was a very expensive lap dance. For 3 songs! She was there less then 20 minutes.
When I come out there I will stay away from BP. [/QUOTE]Can't you just tell the girl to take a hike if she tries to upsell? It seems that people are just allowing these hoes to walk all over them and making them pay. If she said $$ and then came back and said another $$$ for FS, I'd tell the ***** to get the fuck out.
[QUOTE=Atlasiangirth;1120834]Can't you just tell the girl to take a hike if she tries to upsell? It seems that people are just allowing these hoes to walk all over them and making them pay. If she said $$ and then came back and said another $$$ for FS, I'd tell the ***** to get the fuck out.[/QUOTE]That's the risk of the upsell. You have to put your money down on the table before ANYTHING is even discussed. I asked her before hand if 200 includes everything. She said yes. You give her the 200, and then she starts asking for a tip. What, am I going to wrestle her for the 200 out of her purse and tell her to get out? No, you've got to cut your losses and post on the forum to watch out for other hobbyists. I feel somewhat better knowing that I helped at least one person avoid the upsell, and I hurt her business just a tiny bit.
[QUOTE=Kaydee;1123666]That's the risk of the upsell. You have to put your money down on the table before ANYTHING is even discussed. I asked her before hand if 200 includes everything. She said yes. You give her the 200, and then she starts asking for a tip. What, am I going to wrestle her for the 200 out of her purse and tell her to get out?[/QUOTE]If she is asking for a tip, that is not upselling. It is an upsell if she demands a tip for previously agreed services. Then yes you wrestle her for the $$ and throw her out.
I never put the money on the table until the rules are discussed. If she doesn't like it let her leave.
The best way to avoid all of this is research, research, research.
[QUOTE=Kaydee;1123666]That's the risk of the upsell. You have to put your money down on the table before ANYTHING is even discussed. I asked her before hand if 200 includes everything. She said yes. You give her the 200, and then she starts asking for a tip. What, am I going to wrestle her for the 200 out of her purse and tell her to get out? No, you've got to cut your losses and post on the forum to watch out for other hobbyists. I feel somewhat better knowing that I helped at least one person avoid the upsell, and I hurt her business just a tiny bit.[/QUOTE]You just had a bad provider. I had many providers don't even ask for $ until deed is done.
DJP
[QUOTE=GrayTurner; 1123857]If she is asking for a tip, that is not upselling. It is an upsell if she demands a tip for previously agreed services. Then yes you wrestle her for the $$ and throw her out.
I never put the money on the table until the rules are discussed. If she doesn't like it let her leave.
The best way to avoid all of this is research, research, research. [/QUOTE]I agree that you don't give her anything upfront. A legit provider won't ask for the fee upfront. Some won't even discuss it. If a provider walks in and demands the fee upfront that is not a good sign.
I also agree on researching the providers. Lots of good legit ones in Vegas.
I don't agree with trying to physically take money back. That could cause a lot more trouble than what its worth.