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I doubt he was 'proven' innocent. More than likely the DA dropped whatever charges were filed. In order to get the money for the towing back he would have to sue the city and prove that Law Enforcement acted inapproptiately.
[QUOTE=Butchcasidy]MMM,
When your lawyer got you off, did you get your money back for the impounded car?
It would seem that the city has the obligation of granting you a refund for the impound fee if you were proven innocent.[/QUOTE]
Thanks for the input on Lyons gus. I know that about 2 years ago there were some reports here about that area. As I recall, one girl was working near JC's and the other near the bar a few blocks west of JC's. That may have been a random occurance, but I'll keep checking and if anyone has any info please share.
[QUOTE=Iceman007]I use to live in that area too to be exact over in Countryside. Now the trailer parks mentioned on Joliet Road are actually in Countryside across the street from the Quarry Mall of Hodgkins. I have never seen any girls working that area at all that I can remember. The only place I ever saw anyone was further in Countryside by the bowling alley. The girl I met was living out of the Wishing Well Motel which has since gone out of business.
I have no idea if some girls are actually staying over at JC's Motel in Countryside but it would be a good place for them. I have known of some escorts that worked out of the motel.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Ump1969]Wow, I started quite a discussion! I was simply wondering if anyone had any inside info on what the Heights cops were up to. I don't care much about the technicalities. I understand the rules as others are posting here, but as I see it, if I get busted, I am going to get a lawyer and hopefully, he will handle it properly. The other thing to keep in mind is that whatever the techicalities, the only people that are going to care whether or not we get treated legally and properly are other mongers. If any of you want to make a federal case and try to get back your goodies, I say more power to you. I hope you are successful and have understanding employers, wives, or whomever else might give a damn. Before anyone tells me that mongers are entitled to rights under the law just like anyone else, keep in mind that we are not a respected class of society and we all know the rules work better for some than others.[/QUOTE]
A good lawyer will keep this part of your life more private than you could ever imagine: they are professional secret keepers and it is their duty to protect your interests, and zealously at that... I have many, many situations that would have landed me in the pokey or worse had it not been for competent legal representation.
Find yourself a lawyer who is as I term it, "my kind of scum." Sitting in a courtroom and watching them at work for a day or three usually is enough to make the first approach as a prospective client, because you are one: also, the approach itself may be considered privelaged, but caution is still the watchword here. The key to having a lawyer keeping your private life private is for them to know the broad strokes with some idea of what your potential risk exposure is, [u]in advance[/u] so that they can draw up all standard forms etc. in anticipation of ever having to use them in your hour of need, of course they can't predict everything you could get charged with, but the advance prep. lets them expedite any process exponentially faster than it would otherwise take. As far as respect goes... you're hiring it, hire carefully.
As far as making the rules work better for us... let the lawyers do the work and concentrate your energies on this most noble of hobbies.
Like the mechanics keep telling me, "You can pay me now or you can pay me later, but either way, you're going to pay." At least this way you can keep it more on your terms than not.
Benchseats Rock
I periodically post this wonderful page.
[url]http://www.americansforsafeaccess.org/article.php?id=2605[/url]
There are three basic types of encounters with the police: Conversation, Detention, and Arrest.
Interrogation isn't always bright lights and rubber hoses -- usually it's just a conversation. Whenever the cops ask you anything besides your name and address, it's legally safest to say these Magic Words:
"I am going to remain silent. I want to see a lawyer."
This invokes legal rights, which protect you from interrogation. When you say this, the cops (and all other law enforcement officials) are legally required to stop asking you questions. They probably won't stop, so just repeat the Magic Words or remain silent until they catch on. If you forget your decision to remain silent and start talking to the police, you can and should re-invoke the Magic Words, then remain silent.
Read the whole page -- it's valuable stuff.
[QUOTE=Flaxydude]I periodically post this wonderful page.
[url]http://www.americansforsafeaccess.org/article.php?id=2605[/url]
There are three basic types of encounters with the police: Conversation, Detention, and Arrest.
Interrogation isn't always bright lights and rubber hoses -- usually it's just a conversation. Whenever the cops ask you anything besides your name and address, it's legally safest to say these Magic Words:
"I am going to remain silent. I want to see a lawyer."
This invokes legal rights, which protect you from interrogation. When you say this, the cops (and all other law enforcement officials) are legally required to stop asking you questions. They probably won't stop, so just repeat the Magic Words or remain silent until they catch on. If you forget your decision to remain silent and start talking to the police, you can and should re-invoke the Magic Words, then remain silent.
Read the whole page -- it's valuable stuff.[/QUOTE]
Big high five on the great info!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I think if you say you won't talk and you want a lawyer, you can almost guarantee being taken in. I have been stopped several times, and had my car gone over with a fine toothed comb by some redneck police force.
I generally find that if you are polite and very respectful and have a reasonable and intelligent excuse (that you should have prepared in advance) that they will give you the benefit of the doubt, perhaps with a "wink wink" smile, but they won't take you in 98% of the time. If you treat them like fools, have an idiot excuse, or are difficult, and I would include I want a lawyer in that category, I think you are going to spend some time with them.
If they want the girl, they probably need just enough from you to get her. I also found that Chicago at one time was keeping a book on cars they stopped. When they told you they didn't want you in the area again, it was my belief that a 2nd incident would be far more serious. These guys are out every day, they see everything, they hear every stupid excuse in the book. If you say you want a lawyer, I think you're smoked. If you have not been Miranda'ed, nothing they ask you will hold up in court. Oh, BTW, anything they make up will hold up in court.
if you are driving a car, it will almost certainly be towed.
HHH
WOW. Second time in Chicago and enjoyed the first one mongering, but now I'm scared to cruise. So what are my choices?
I haven't been busted, I have been stopped. The excuses worked. I've probably picked up several hundered girls all over the country and I think my batting average, while not perfect, is pretty good, thus I do feel qualified, but perhaps not further inclined, to give advice.
The time I saw the book, a high level Chicago LE officer...wearing a suit of all things...talked to me and took down the info and wrote it into a paper notebook. Of course the computers track stuff, but this was an informal log which I felt was being used by a task force working the area.
HHH
A couple of weeks ago I got together with an old friend. Beautiful ebony chick that I had not seen in a few years. She suggested that her friend join us. I reluctantly agreed to a new adventure in fun. After 2 plus hours I was totally exhausted, from the kinky fun with multiple pops. Total $$$. Going for round two tomorrow, this time they are talking about 4 or 5 hours of fun and even suggested an overnight with both. Any senior members interested in the phone number, I will ask them when they come over tomorrow if it is OK to pass number and pics.
Girls are ebony princesses, about 5'7" perky B or C titties, shaved, and great booties. Definite 8-9 on the scale. Do not know about greek, but great bbbj, daty, shows, and more.
I'm going on tour to make a documentary film about streetwalkers starting Jan 2nd and I'm looking for places with alot of active streetwalkers to film. Can any suggest a good location?
[QUOTE=Smilz90]I'm going on tour to make a documentary film about streetwalkers starting Jan 2nd and I'm looking for places with alot of active streetwalkers to film. Can any suggest a good location?[/QUOTE]
You have to f$&king be kidding us right? You ask this on your first post and expect something back? So if you aren't the Law, what is our motivation for helping you? Oh yeah, we get to have some dumb ass further exposing our illegal hobby to bring even more attention and heat to the streets of Chicago. Great, where do I sign up.
Fellow member, don't even humor this guy!
[QUOTE=Smilz90]I'm going on tour to make a documentary film about streetwalkers starting Jan 2nd and I'm looking for places with alot of active streetwalkers to film. Can any suggest a good location?[/QUOTE]
Ooooo, I know where you can find some great girls, 26th & California. Then again, if you're shooting in the summer, you should definitely check out 1060 W Addison. Tons of dirty ****** there. All you have to do is talk about your Beemer or your Trustfund and they will be all over you!
I am with MWM. I have seen these types of documentaries on HBO. I don't understand the purpose or why girls get involved. I'm sure these girls want their faces posted so that every cop in the country can see them. You're going to pay them, right? But it's a novel idea. You can do a documentary on crack dealers. They all want their faces on national TV. right? How about bank robbers, gang bangers, and other assorted criminals? Let's just make life easier for Uncle Leo. Before taking your camera on the road, hire security and wear a flak jacket, because a few of us might not appreciate you.
[QUOTE=Smilz90]I'm going on tour to make a documentary film about streetwalkers starting Jan 2nd and I'm looking for places with alot of active streetwalkers to film. Can any suggest a good location?[/QUOTE]Just set your camera up on any downtown street. If it is during the week, film around lunchtime... there will be thousands of people walking on the streets. You might even catch a few jay-walkers too!
I was driving down Chicago Rd. today at 5:15 PM and I saw Julie walking just south of the car wash. I turned around and picked her up on a side street. $20 for a bbbjcim she told me that she just got out of jail.
Hey dudder,
Did she have digits? I know it's a long shot.
[QUOTE=Dudder]I was driving down Chicago Rd. today at 5:15 PM and I saw Julie walking just south of the car wash. I turned around and picked her up on a side street. $20 for a bbbjcim she told me that she just got out of jail.[/QUOTE]
Met Amy in the groves. Large top, fleshy middle. Great smile and technique. Groves were unbelievable. It was like a fall display and sale with the number of opportunities.Get there soon because I am sure Uncle Leo will not let this continue.
Hate to leep harping on the same tune but some of my fellow mongers worry me. I read one post where a monger did an ebony duet from Madison St. I'm glad he is still in one piece and did not get robbed- or worse. I hope he does not plan a repeat performance.
Then another monger took a girl to his house. This has the potential for so many problems, I could write a book. Just a few:
-Her "boyfriend" invades and demands cash.
-Her cash demands increase- otherwise your wife, girl friend, employer, etc. find out.
-You come home one day and she has emptied out everything you own for her "boyfriend" or her crack habit.
-She brings her stash with her to visit you and you get busted with her.
Stay safe, gentlemen.
I found Amy in the groves as well. Amy is friendly and very enthusiastic, almost too enthusiastic. Offered 20, asked for more as a "tip" if I was happy. I was and she got 30, and was very happy as well. BBBJCIM.
Nice gal and didn't even ask for money up front.
Riding in maroon / burgundy sedan with a white haired older driver
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Where are "the groves"?
Thanks in advance. I did search back, but couldn't pin down the location.
I made a trip over to the groves before the change in the weather. I thought there would be more activity than what I found. Only saw 2 of the usual park attendants. I drove around for awhile and low and behold a new one appears. I was not sure she was even on duty. She was driving an older run down green chevy. I waited awhile and sure enough, she gets out and my jaw dropped. I could not believe what I was seeing here. Found a secluded spot in the forest. Her face was a 5 but her body was an 8. Her performance was a solid 10. Small breasts but very sensitive and was into what she was doing. Said she had only been here twice and really needed the money. I asked for digits but she was not interested. Was a great day to end the year with before the cold weather sets in.
What you should not do if pulled over by a Police Officer.
[url]http://www.guzer.com/videos/chris_rock_cops.php[/url]
Was out in Matteson today. Cystal was closed. Don't know if it is closed on Mondays or just closed. Haven't seen the ad in Friday's Sun Times in a while.
Barney
I have driven by at least once a week for the past month. They have been closed since the end of October. They were not that great of a place but always would do in a pinch.
[QUOTE=Can Man]I have driven by at least once a week for the past month. They have been closed since the end of October. They were not that great of a place but always would do in a pinch.[/QUOTE]
Agreed. Sort of a loss, but not much of one.
Seen an ad on CL, yah I know there is a place to post for cl, w4m s subs, called said it was in Tinley. Said on phone she does most every thing. $100 for 30 min. Get closer, call again. This dumb ass don't know how to give directions. Find the place. Nice townhouse. Clean. Go to family room in basement. I lookin at her. Said in ad 38, shit, she looks closer to 60. Smoker cough and voice. Then, are u a cop - no, are u? no. Peak at small saggy titties and looked at her alittle better, she ain't lookin to good. Said she didn't do fs. Ask her if we are alone. Said male friend upstairs. She got to be a crack head, skinny, saggy skin, kind of spaced.
Told her I was having second thoughts. She asked for some money because I backed out. Told her I would take care of her next time. Got the fuck out of there. Damn, Scary! BTW, there won't be a next time. Think I'll stick to the amps. Barney
Do you have the link to her ad so we will know to avoid?
[QUOTE=Barney]Seen an ad on CL, yah I know there is a place to post for cl, w4m s subs, called said it was in Tinley. Said on phone she does most every thing. $100 for 30 min. Get closer, call again. This dumb ass don't know how to give directions. Find the place. Nice townhouse. Clean. Go to family room in basement. I lookin at her. Said in ad 38, shit, she looks closer to 60. Smoker cough and voice. Then, are u a cop - no, are u? no. Peak at small saggy titties and looked at her alittle better, she ain't lookin to good. Said she didn't do fs. Ask her if we are alone. Said male friend upstairs. She got to be a crack head, skinny, saggy skin, kind of spaced.
Told her I was having second thoughts. She asked for some money because I backed out. Told her I would take care of her next time. Got the fuck out of there. Damn, Scary! BTW, there won't be a next time. Think I'll stick to the amps. Barney[/QUOTE]
the posts are only good for about 7 days. I think it expired already. But she has a townhouse near 183rd & Oak Park. Scary lookin crack head. Barney
Is she the one who advertises as a 38 y/o in south burbs. Short blonde hair and skinny?
Thanks for the feedback.
[QUOTE=Barney]the posts are only good for about 7 days. I think it expired already. But she has a townhouse near 183rd & Oak Park. Scary lookin crack head. Barney[/QUOTE]
Dear Grove Opportunists,
Had the day off today so I decided to check out the groves. Arrvied around 10:00 am this morning and was suprised to find Uncle Leo parked outside of the first grove off Ashland :(. However, on the north side of 26th st. was a wsw (a chicago road regular, although I don't know her name). She has brown hair, bod about a 8 on the 10 scale, face okay. If anyone can shed some light on who she is, it would be greatly appreciated. Seems like she's only out during the day, always on Chicago Road.
Couldn't act because of the nearby LE presence. Anyway cruised all of the groves but came up empty. Cruised Chicago Road for awhile and checked out the groves again. This time I spotted Uncle Leo with a flat tire inside the first grove south of Ashland :). He was changing the tire and strung up the cable to keep everybody out until he was finshed (wuss).
From there I headed over to the Drive-In on Sauk Trail to grab some lunch and headed back to the second grove south of 26th st. (the one with the pavilion). Sat there for a while eating my gyro, reading the paper, and watching all of my fellow mongers cruise up and down, in and out of the parking lot. Might even seen some of you today. Seemed like a car or truck every 30 seconds!! Figured with the mild weather there would be some action, but nothing to be found today. By the way, to the gentleman with glasses who drives a small car with the bike rack on the trunk, please PM me. I have a question for you. Sorry if this post is kind of lame, just wanted to offer a report on the groves.
Sincerely,
Antoniocool69
I'm around Oak Forest.
Can someone give me 411 on what groves are good.
How can I tell if SW best area out south to check out.
Thank You in Advance
Sorry this is so late, but i just got home. Stay away from the Heights Friday night- Uncle Leo is running some sort of operation. I saw an unmarked by the bank ATM and another one roaming the alleys. The one provider working that I saw was never far from an escort. Stay home or go elsewher, mongers
Stopped by Arnie's in Harvey Thurs. night. First time for me at this place. Wasn't sure what to expect as I had not read much in the way of details. Felt a little out of place in here being a white collar white guy coming from work, took a while to get a beer. The overall vibe was OK so I stuck around. Several nice ebony ladies, a couple very hot. One of the hotties asked me if I wanted a dance, .20 topless, .30 nude. Told her I thought .30 for a nude dance was a bit much, so settled for the .20 dance. The dance was outstanding, so I agreed for the extended dance for $ of time. I was not disappointed. Being spent of my wad of cash, I left pleased with this place.
Drove through a grove today - saw a lady with two tone blonde hair sitting in a pickup with a guy - the pickup was backed in front end showing - lady watched as I drove past.
Being new I had no idea how to make sure.
What should I in the furture if this happens? What do I look for?
Can anyone offer a newbie some advice?
[QUOTE=Figbey]Drove through a grove today - saw a lady with two tone blonde hair sitting in a pickup with a guy - the pickup was backed in front end showing - lady watched as I drove past.
Being new I had no idea how to make sure.
What should I in the furture if this happens? What do I look for?
Can anyone offer a newbie some advice?[/QUOTE]
I'll tell you what you find in the groves from my experience. Most women are there to make money to buy drugs. The guys are either pimping for their women or dealing in drugs. You could have probably dealt with the woman, although I personally prefer for a woman to be alone. If I were really interested, I might have parked near the truck, let her see me and walk over. If she lloks at me and stays in the truck or completely ignores me, either she is not interested in me or not looking for love. If both she and the guy approach my car, I'm gone. Maybe other mongers would like to chime in and offer opposing views.
The other possibility is a police sting, which happens frequently in the groves. Make a decision before she gets in the car if you are interested. If you are interested, see if she will get in the car before even discussing a date. If she wants to make the deal from outside the car, I'd be leery.
[QUOTE=Figbey]Drove through a grove today - saw a lady with two tone blonde hair sitting in a pickup with a guy - the pickup was backed in front end showing - lady watched as I drove past.
Being new I had no idea how to make sure.
What should I in the furture if this happens? What do I look for?
Can anyone offer a newbie some advice?[/QUOTE]
The groves are easy.. Park.. if a sw is working she will walk up to you and get in... If its a cop they will not get in your car until you have talked... I would recommend going somewhere else, if she goes with you it is really not LE
I'm all about the AMPS & providers, but I appreciate the info, in case I decide to hunt.... the REAL girls will jump right in, FAST?
[QUOTE=Captain Stiffy]I'm all about the AMPS & providers, but I appreciate the info, in case I decide to hunt.... the REAL girls will jump right in, FAST?[/QUOTE]
without saying a word. If they want to talk through the window or even while the car door is open, get the fuck out of there.
Crystal spa is gone. Sniff sniff. And barney who reported on the tinley park person, . It was kinda wierd when I called back on a block phone call another women answered. So I thought it was as sting. I hope in 07 brings many more smiles to everyone. Merry xmas
Guys,
I am giving up on the Groves. I went there today around 2 pm and this lady hopped out of this black Cadillac and looked like a linebaker that would snap my cock in half no thanks other than that its quiet out there.
Hey,
I just got a nice quicky got some info would share.
Merry Xmas