I'm considering heading over to SA. I've had an occasional semi pro from WYP. It's generally worth the effort but you have to keep your eyes open for sure. If something seems off, it's off, and don't believe anything you are told otherwise.
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I'm considering heading over to SA. I've had an occasional semi pro from WYP. It's generally worth the effort but you have to keep your eyes open for sure. If something seems off, it's off, and don't believe anything you are told otherwise.
[QUOTE=Trux1;5294264]I'm considering heading over to SA. I've had an occasional semi pro from WYP. It's generally worth the effort but you have to keep your eyes open for sure. If something seems off, it's off, and don't believe anything you are told otherwise.[/QUOTE]Others have weighed in on this as well, but I'll throw in my experience with SA and SB. Was a member there for about a year pre pandemic. Definitely some gems in there with some patience. Even though I'm a decent looking guy and my financial health is good enough, I still avoided the glammed up profiles that would obviously be getting a lot of attention. Too much of a time waste. As long as you are willing to do alot of meetngreets, coffee meetings with the potential to walk away with nothing, then its a good system. As always, be conscious of what you say in your first text until you actually meet so not to get yourself in some trouble.
[QUOTE=Alas5877;5294685]Others have weighed in on this as well, but I'll throw in my experience with SA and SB. Was a member there for about a year pre pandemic. Definitely some gems in there with some patience. Even though I'm a decent looking guy and my financial health is good enough, I still avoided the glammed up profiles that would obviously be getting a lot of attention. Too much of a time waste. As long as you are willing to do alot of meetngreets, coffee meetings with the potential to walk away with nothing, then its a good system. As always, be conscious of what you say in your first text until you actually meet so not to get yourself in some trouble.[/QUOTE]Hey gents,
For those of us who insist on a certain amount of discretion due to a gf (or spouse for others, I suppose), how easy is it to maintain that discretion with something like SA or SB? I was thinking non-face pics if I dip my toes in that water, that or blurry face pics. How many questions do the girls ask, and do the sugar babies care? Or are they likely to try to hang you over a barrel for extra cash?
I've had the AMP girls ask me if I have a GF, am I married, want to know if I have kids, etc., I never know whether being single to them or not is the right answer?
Or am I the only rotten dog on here? LOL.
[QUOTE=Jd058;5299996]Hey gents,
For those of us who insist on a certain amount of discretion due to a gf (or spouse for others, I suppose), how easy is it to maintain that discretion with something like SA or SB? I was thinking non-face pics if I dip my toes in that water, that or blurry face pics. How many questions do the girls ask, and do the sugar babies care? Or are they likely to try to hang you over a barrel for extra cash?
I've had the AMP girls ask me if I have a GF, am I married, want to know if I have kids, etc., I never know whether being single to them or not is the right answer?
Or am I the only rotten dog on here? LOL.[/QUOTE]The semi pro sites have everything from legitimate, good twenty somethings needing help with rent to convicted felons who just got out of prison. I found all of those on WYP including one young lady who lied about having been arrested for beating her kid and was trying to get pregnant by me since she'd lost custody of the kids she already had.
If I had anything to lose by being on a site like that I wouldn't do it.
As for hiding your identity, I went to a doppelganger site, found a dude in Ireland that looked more like me than my brother. Took a screen shot, edited the pic into a local background. Thought it was a solid effort. Uploaded it to SA and they immediately notified me the pic was a fraud and deleted my account in the span of less than 5 minutes.
Just use a pro, as the saying goes you aren't paying them for sex you are paying them to leave after sex.
[QUOTE=Jd058;5299996]Hey gents,
For those of us who insist on a certain amount of discretion due to a gf (or spouse for others, I suppose), how easy is it to maintain that discretion with something like SA or SB? I was thinking non-face pics if I dip my toes in that water, that or blurry face pics. How many questions do the girls ask, and do the sugar babies care? Or are they likely to try to hang you over a barrel for extra cash?
I've had the AMP girls ask me if I have a GF, am I married, want to know if I have kids, etc., I never know whether being single to them or not is the right answer?
Or am I the only rotten dog on here? LOL.[/QUOTE]Oddly, you're in a similar position as many of the women on SA or SB, which is why so many have profiles that say things like "let's respect each other's space and boundaries when we're apart".
A LOT of girls there want the cash, and the fun, and are not looking to have a proper 'relationship' out of it, so there's a good chance you'll be able to find someone who is okay being the 'other woman' so long as you're upfront with her that it's her role in your life.
[QUOTE=Mizunate;5301787]Oddly, you're in a similar position as many of the women on SA or SB, which is why so many have profiles that say things like "let's respect each other's space and boundaries when we're apart".
A LOT of girls there want the cash, and the fun, and are not looking to have a proper 'relationship' out of it, so there's a good chance you'll be able to find someone who is okay being the 'other woman' so long as you're upfront with her that it's her role in your life.[/QUOTE]Thanks, gents. I appreciate it.
Fuck I hate spending the money, but I love the pussy!
[QUOTE=PoonHound1969;5336763]Fuck I hate spending the money, but I love the pussy![/QUOTE]I got an email around 8 am today with a 33% Summer Discount link in it to upgrade my membership. I'd check the email you registered with to see if you got something similar. Not sure why they would limit to a subset of users unless they were doing A / B testing with different discount rates and the resulting subscription yields.
[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/15df53a6-fcdf-4be4-aa4e-4c788a1905d6[/URL]
[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/2778c42e-c760-44eb-9e5f-a21f10e596ca[/URL]
2 profile show up for her. I figured it out she bailed.
I recently (about 2 months) took membership on SA and met few good ones for dates and hotel hangouts. Is anyone else active on SA and would like to trade info via PM?
I don't want to directly post in here because if the SB's sees it then they might be able to identify me and don't want to mess up anything. But I encountered a lot of fakes / scammers / pro's and will post them here to help the community.
[QUOTE=SimpleHuman;5287501]I don't have any experience with SB but from what I've heard, SA gets better results for the money. It is expensive though. And there are a lot of fake profiles to weed through. But I'm thinking that's true with both sites. They're pretty easy to figure out though.
There are a lot of girls in the area who are active on SA. From shy introverts to boisterous party girls. Just remember, regardless of what is actually happening or being discussed, they don't want to be treated like an escort.[/QUOTE]You get so much more value for the money with SA girls and most are fine with what TNA girls wouldn't do or would charge a lot more to do. The $99/ month is a bargain for the results if you approach it with the right game IMHO.
She's been messaging me non-stop and I let her until she asked me to cashapp her some dough. No chance of that happening. Does anyone have any intel on her? TGTBT? Scam?
Thanks in advance.
PC.
[QUOTE=PoontangChaser;5495628]She's been messaging me non-stop and I let her until she asked me to cashapp her some dough. No chance of that happening. Does anyone have any intel on her? TGTBT? Scam?
Thanks in advance.
PC.[/QUOTE]When a pic is that grainy, it's likely stolen. This in particular looks like it was a screengrab of a video.
Scammers do this to create unique images scanning platforms like Tineye can't immediately identify. They will often screengrab, crop, and / or strip all metadata from an image to further confuse the platforms.
NEVER send anyone money for any reason unless you have an established, personal relationship with them. There are a LOT of sob-stories and most of them are scammers looking to make a quick buck.
[QUOTE=Baddaddy2021;5495370]You get so much more value for the money with SA girls and most are fine with what TNA girls wouldn't do or would charge a lot more to do. The $99/ month is a bargain for the results if you approach it with the right game IMHO.[/QUOTE]What is the normal going-rate for SA pickups? You say $99 is a value so I'm curious what the monthly commitment looks like: time, allowance, etc. I know it's likely dependent on the woman, but I'm heavily weighing-in starting up an SA account or diving into the TNA game and trying to determine which would offer the most bang for my buck. Discretion is valuable.
[QUOTE=Mizunate;5496524]When a pic is that grainy, it's likely stolen. This in particular looks like it was a screengrab of a video.
Scammers do this to create unique images scanning platforms like Tineye can't immediately identify. They will often screengrab, crop, and / or strip all metadata from an image to further confuse the platforms.
NEVER send anyone money for any reason unless you have an established, personal relationship with them. There are a LOT of sob-stories and most of them are scammers looking to make a quick buck.[/QUOTE]Here is what I learned from SA:
1. Meet in person over coffee or something in a public safe place for all. No money exchange at this point. Don't waste her time either. Get to one know one another and make sure that it is a fit.
2. Discuss arrangement possibly. I found that most of the girls are hoping for a couple thousand in allowance. That can be ppm or some direct monthly / weekly transfer. Almost everyone wanted to start ppm.
3. A Sugar baby typically doesn't like the idea of being an escort. Like any time you ongoingly date someone you can pretty much assume you will end up in bed at some point. But a lot of the SAs want to feel cared for. Basically treat them with respect and enjoy their company.
4. Everyone knows adult activities will take place. Just pretty much never at their place. There is really no such thing as incall. So keep that in mind too.
5. There are scammers, but they are so easy to spot. The women who will meet you for a quick tea / coffee / walk / etc. are the ones to continue with. Sending any money ahead of time is just stupid.
[QUOTE=Baddaddy2021;5495370]You get so much more value for the money with SA girls and most are fine with what TNA girls wouldn't do or would charge a lot more to do. The $99/ month is a bargain for the results if you approach it with the right game IMHO.[/QUOTE]Couldn't agree with this more. The hard truth is. If you can't afford the membership fee or if it bothers you then SA is not the place for you to be.
[QUOTE=QuickFoot;5508533]Here is what I learned from SA:
1. Meet in person over coffee or something in a public safe place for all. No money exchange at this point. Don't waste her time either. Get to one know one another and make sure that it is a fit.
2. Discuss arrangement possibly. I found that most of the girls are hoping for a couple thousand in allowance. That can be ppm or some direct monthly / weekly transfer. Almost everyone wanted to start ppm.
3. A Sugar baby typically doesn't like the idea of being an escort. Like any time you ongoingly date someone you can pretty much assume you will end up in bed at some point. But a lot of the SAs want to feel cared for. Basically treat them with respect and enjoy their company.
4. Everyone knows adult activities will take place. Just pretty much never at their place. There is really no such thing as incall. So keep that in mind too.
5. There are scammers, but they are so easy to spot. The women who will meet you for a quick tea / coffee / walk / etc. are the ones to continue with. Sending any money ahead of time is just stupid.[/QUOTE]Yeah, I don't hobby that much, LOL.
[QUOTE=Mizunate;5301787]Oddly, you're in a similar position as many of the women on SA or SB, which is why so many have profiles that say things like "let's respect each other's space and boundaries when we're apart".
A LOT of girls there want the cash, and the fun, and are not looking to have a proper 'relationship' out of it, so there's a good chance you'll be able to find someone who is okay being the 'other woman' so long as you're upfront with her that it's her role in your life.[/QUOTE]Howdy,
I'm new to the city -- question for those who've managed to have somewhat success with SA. How much PPM usually reels girls in for a non-sexual first meeting (coffee date or casual dinner date)? I prefer to meeting these girls in a casual setting first to make sure they don't have a screw loose. How much PPM are most girls happy to have fun for? I'm not looking for anything too crazy -- meet up for a dinner date every now & then and head back to the hotel afterwards, but I'd prefer to stay away from crack wh*res.
Also, somewhat off topic, but does Portland have a lot of 18-21 year old? From what I've seen I don't think there are any major universities in the area, but could be wrong.
Thanks guys.
[QUOTE=OrangeTrees;5528674]Howdy,
I'm new to the city -- question for those who've managed to have somewhat success with SA. How much PPM usually reels girls in for a non-sexual first meeting (coffee date or casual dinner date)? I prefer to meeting these girls in a casual setting first to make sure they don't have a screw loose. How much PPM are most girls happy to have fun for? I'm not looking for anything too crazy -- meet up for a dinner date every now & then and head back to the hotel afterwards, but I'd prefer to stay away from crack wh*res.
Also, somewhat off topic, but does Portland have a lot of 18-21 year old? From what I've seen I don't think there are any major universities in the area, but could be wrong.
Thanks guys.[/QUOTE]PSU has almost 14,000 female undergrad students, according to census data there are more than 50 k young women 18-25 living in Portland.
Is that enough for you? .
[QUOTE=Lewdovico;5534040]PSU has almost 14,000 female undergrad students, according to census data there are more than 50 k young women 18-25 living in Portland.
Is that enough for you? .[/QUOTE]I had a date with an escort who was in an apartment building near campus. She was 10 minutes late because she told me her class ran long. It made me cum so hard.
She is on SA search in Woodland wa wants 300 for an hour of bare FS.
I passed, but I know some of you horn dogs would like her.
[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/a3d79377-d2c6-4ee4-94c7-21669e5162b0[/URL]
300 will get you some but I passed.
[QUOTE=OrangeTrees;5528674]Howdy,
I'm new to the city -- question for those who've managed to have somewhat success with SA. How much PPM usually reels girls in for a non-sexual first meeting (coffee date or casual dinner date)? I prefer to meeting these girls in a casual setting first to make sure they don't have a screw loose. How much PPM are most girls happy to have fun for? I'm not looking for anything too crazy -- meet up for a dinner date every now & then and head back to the hotel afterwards, but I'd prefer to stay away from crack wh*res.
Also, somewhat off topic, but does Portland have a lot of 18-21 year old? From what I've seen I don't think there are any major universities in the area, but could be wrong.
Thanks guys.[/QUOTE]I've had some ones that were offended when I offered them 300 for their "time", and none of them could host. Hell, I don't think some of them could even drive to meet me somewhere (smh). I don't offer, nor would I give more than 300. Unless they're looks and behavior are timeless or elegant, I offer less. Instead of offering 100 for a meet up, I'll give 75 or 50. Offer 250 and see what happens. I'm not a bad looking guy, just not a hot one either, so 250 and a good time isn't something they're likely to pass up unless they're too far out of my league and they know it. I like to meet SB's for a couple of reasons: they're not clock watchers, and a lot of the time if they're in their early 20's, they don't mind not using a cover. They're typically very clean.
[QUOTE=RamblinJavlin;5551405]I've had some ones that were offended when I offered them 300 for their "time", and none of them could host. Hell, I don't think some of them could even drive to meet me somewhere (smh). I don't offer, nor would I give more than 300. Unless they're looks and behavior are timeless or elegant, I offer less. Instead of offering 100 for a meet up, I'll give 75 or 50. Offer 250 and see what happens. I'm not a bad looking guy, just not a hot one either, so 250 and a good time isn't something they're likely to pass up unless they're too far out of my league and they know it. I like to meet SB's for a couple of reasons: they're not clock watchers, and a lot of the time if they're in their early 20's, they don't mind not using a cover. They're typically very clean.[/QUOTE]Never pay her for a first meeting, never ever ever! It's a time to feel each other out a bit, see how she looks and acts. Carry cash as most often these ****** will head to the car with you after an initial meet up.
If she insists on cash to just see you then hard next her.
[QUOTE=Smith1968;5551923]Never pay her for a first meeting, never ever ever! It's a time to feel each other out a bit, see how she looks and acts. Carry cash as most often these ****** will head to the car with you after an initial meet up.
If she insists on cash to just see you then hard next her.[/QUOTE]I don't offer or give into anyone's demands, nor who insists. I will GIVE them something for their time if they seem really cool and aren't a crack head. I don't necessarily expect we'll go straight to the house either. As far as "never, ever, ever", that's your deal, and if it works for you, great, but it always has worked out on the back end for me doing what I just described, which is playing it by ear.
Case in point. I once did an over-night stay with a girl. I verified that it would be for $800. I paid for certain things throughout our time together; food and the like. It was a great time!
Then the next time we stayed together I told her I was strapped for cash (which wasn't far from the truth), and would it be okay that we cut the dollar amount in half for the whole night. She was totally down! The reason being, I had built a rapport with her (plus, she liked me). She was a beautiful 26 year old gem who I was very attracted to, and I stayed close to 20 hours with her for $400. For what it's worth to you.
[QUOTE=RamblinJavlin;5553135]I don't offer or give into anyone's demands, nor who insists. I will GIVE them something for their time if they seem really cool and aren't a crack head. I don't necessarily expect we'll go straight to the house either. As far as "never, ever, ever", that's your deal, and if it works for you, great, but it always has worked out on the back end for me doing what I just described, which is playing it by ear.
Case in point. I once did an over-night stay with a girl. I verified that it would be for $800. I paid for certain things throughout our time together; food and the like. It was a great time!
Then the next time we stayed together I told her I was strapped for cash (which wasn't far from the truth), and would it be okay that we cut the dollar amount in half for the whole night. She was totally down! The reason being, I had built a rapport with her (plus, she liked me). She was a beautiful 26 year old gem who I was very attracted to, and I stayed close to 20 hours with her for $400. For what it's worth to you.[/QUOTE]That is actually very good advice. I too play it by ear and keep options on the table. I think we are on the same page regarding the girls who insist on it. I've given gas money, other little things just for fun and you are correct, it payed off big time down the road.
Frequent visitor to PDX here. Wanted to reccomend the app Whisper for non-pros 'cause you guys got it good here with that app. What follows here may seem like a shill (it's not) or a brag (well, sorta), but mostly wanted to relay my experience in case it helps anyone. Background: the app lets you post and respond anonymously to one or two line posts, then PM. It's used by working girls, horrible guys, non-pros and civilian ladies with mental health issues. I've hooked up about 5 times over the past year on there, mostly in California and Seattle. Mostly non working girls and all non-pros, but Portland has been a gold mine. It takes a lot of practice to wade through the 90% of it that's bullshit and scams, and a ton of time sending PMs and trying different post strategies. When you find a real woman, the key is the same as any other site you guys use: be funny, don't be creepy or desperate, come across as wealthy, down to earth and professional.
Night 1: Responded to a pretty generic ad from a girl that posted that she liked older men and women. Her chat rating and coherent responses indicated she was not a bot, a hooker deposit scam, or a working girl. Chat her up for a bit, exchange pics, convince her to hang out with me. She comes to my hotel. Early 20's, big tits, near spinner, cute as fuck. Like, adorable. She walks in, she's wet and ready to go, and 5 minutes later I'm fucking her raw in between face fucking her. She's not on BC so I pull out. No cost. Goes into my top 5.
Later that night, against my better judgment, I text SamanthaPDX (from TNA, but well known on LC). Seen her before. She is looking rougher but she'll still do anything. Creampie her and go to bed. DFK, BBFS, CIP, BBBJ. $$.
Night Two: Post an ad on the app implying I'm into no strings and also generous. Then reply to an ad of someone nearby 'wanting to hang out'. Brief chat, pics exchanged. We agree to meet at the hotel bar. She's broke as it turns out. We have a drink, I invite her to my room to get stoned. We do. Ask her if we can do sexual things. She is demure but she had put 2 and 2 together. Same guy who answered her ad just posted something about being generous. So, she says what's in it for me? I say a lot of fun and the cash in my wallet. Hmm, she's never done that before, but she considers it. HOLY FUCK YES. Turns out she's a sub so no problem closing the deal. This girl is in her early 20's, fucking hot as fuck. Quite literally looks like she's in porn. Nice tits, a little tummy, incredible ass, shaved pussy. Easily one of the 5 hottest girls I've ever fucked. Pull down her tights. DFK, BBJ, BBFS. She's super into it. I love when they feel naughty for fucking for money. I ask, she's not on BC either (what the fuck? So pull out again. This one goes into the top 3. $1. 6, about 3 hours.
Don't ask for contact info for the non-pros. The first was not a working girl at all and the second is not from Portland and leaving town. If you want Samantha's info, sure, but you can get that easily. My point is, try Whisper, especially when traveling. Be cool, and see what happens.
[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/cd231563-b497-4597-b63e-31ddcc7de579[/URL]
Wants a paid meet and greet because you know, time is money.
Pass.
Thanks, Downtown Dave! Whisper is crap where I live, but I can see it being useful in the Portland area. I had written it off with the low usage in my area. (or the next time I travel for work, which will be on the 27th of fucking never with COVID LOL).
I checked out S. A. After reading a couple of posts here about Sugar Babies. I scanned through the ads and saw what the girls there wanted and so I made a profile there to see what would happen. Like a lot of guys I tried other dating sites, I spent the dough for the membership and received little to no response on all the sites I joined. I read somewhere here that there was a better response because the cost of membership was higher therefore the women there knew mongers were more serious about the service exchange. What happened in my situation was not mentioned here.
First of all, I received more profile views in one day then I received in one month of a standard dating website. Second, I received inquiries from females close to me. The first inquiry was from a young 21 yr old girl who I made a date with next week. Then I received another inquiry from another lady closer to my age who I am going to meet for lunch this week.
Both ladies are looking for an encounter and to be compensated, but they also offer a GFE experience and want to have regular meetings. IDK if I am going to MPs once or twice a month and dealing with a crap shoot for basic service, I thinking I am going to give this a try.
I had detailed text conversations with both ladies regarding service agreements. The meetings are for the purpose of feeling out to see if there is chemistry and to come to an agreement. Both were open to casual relationship with not much more then I would spend at the MPs, but they also want more than just a wham bam thank you mam. Stay tuned.
The 21 yr old:
[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/6284a85f-d60a-4615-b30d-7b3b26133791[/URL]
Closer to my age:
[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/07950d2b-fbfd-4b6a-a8f7-d5388ae28319[/URL]
What are the going exchange rates though? That is what I want to know. A few of the non-pros that want more of a sugar daddy / regular thing seems to be twice as much as the providers on the high end. I would love to find a non-pro GFE experience on a regular basis but not looking to invest 1 k every month in a few meets.
And my account is suspended. I haven't used it in forever. The only change I've made to it was to add a photo. I don't think I changed my profile. The photo was approved. And I've never gotten an email saying my account was suspended. Any idea what the heck would cause this? I haven't been active on it in over a year, other than to add a photo. Very strange.
[QUOTE=BobbyShafToe;5577754]And my account is suspended. I haven't used it in forever. The only change I've made to it was to add a photo. I don't think I changed my profile. The photo was approved. And I've never gotten an email saying my account was suspended. Any idea what the heck would cause this? I haven't been active on it in over a year, other than to add a photo. Very strange.[/QUOTE]The one time I tried to get on SA I grabbed a pic from a doppelganger site, edited the exif info, and uploaded it. My profile was immediately suspended.
[QUOTE=BobbyShafToe;5577754]And my account is suspended. I haven't used it in forever. The only change I've made to it was to add a photo. I don't think I changed my profile. The photo was approved. And I've never gotten an email saying my account was suspended. Any idea what the heck would cause this? I haven't been active on it in over a year, other than to add a photo. Very strange.[/QUOTE]I had that happen to me too. Had the account for 1. 5 years, lurking only. Went to actually upgrade to paid, and decided to change my header message.
Immediately upon hitting save my account got suspended. I emailed them, and they said I could send them a picture of my license to unlock. I said something inappropriate back and didn't do it.
A week or so later I got bored and created a new account which got suspended immediately. I figured I goofed and they used browser fingerprinting to catch me since I wqs on a unique mobile browser few use. My IP was a big VPN provider's so it likely wasn't that as I imagine they get many hits from it.
So then I made a new account on my desktop, different city through my VPN, and a browser with fingerprint guarding, and again instantly got suspended. I emailed them again saying my friend told me about the site, and they said to send in my I'd. I did this time (fake I'd from ois but real picture of me) and got no response from them. I emailed them a week later following up, and again no response.
I've given up. Instead I went to Secret Benefits and gave them money, but it's pay-per-convo there and so far I've gotten many messages, reply, and then radio silence. Only one person has been real, but they didn't want intimacy. I'm thinking they just have a bunch of fake profiles that message people to get them to spend credits unlocking messaging to see what was said. So far it's been mostly, "Hey, how are you daddy?" Tbf, maybe they actually pay people a portion of the income that they can trick users into spending to make it seem more legit.
So I've resigned myself from the SD / SB relationships and am now considering mongering for the first time. To date I've only done one body rub and a couple AMPs.
Note: I only used protonmail accounts for SA so maybe they have some new policy against them. Could be possible since the US gov can't as easily subpoena them as us-based big tech.
[QUOTE=Valinor;5577913]I had that happen to me too. Had the account for 1. 5 years, lurking only. Went to actually upgrade to paid, and decided to change my header message.
Immediately upon hitting save my account got suspended. I emailed them, and they said I could send them a picture of my license to unlock. I said something inappropriate back and didn't do it.
A week or so later I got bored and created a new account which got suspended immediately. I figured I goofed and they used browser fingerprinting to catch me since I wqs on a unique mobile browser few use. My IP was a big VPN provider's so it likely wasn't that as I imagine they get many hits from it.
So then I made a new account on my desktop, different city through my VPN, and a browser with fingerprint guarding, and again instantly got suspended. I emailed them again saying my friend told me about the site, and they said to send in my I'd. I did this time (fake I'd from ois but real picture of me) and got no response from them. I emailed them a week later following up, and again no response.
I've given up. Instead I went to Secret Benefits and gave them money, but it's pay-per-convo there and so far I've gotten many messages, reply, and then radio silence. Only one person has been real, but they didn't want intimacy. I'm thinking they just have a bunch of fake profiles that message people to get them to spend credits unlocking messaging to see what was said. So far it's been mostly, "Hey, how are you daddy?" Tbf, maybe they actually pay people a portion of the income that they can trick users into spending to make it seem more legit.
So I've resigned myself from the SD / SB relationships and am now considering mongering for the first time. To date I've only done one body rub and a couple AMPs.
Note: I only used protonmail accounts for SA so maybe they have some new policy against them. Could be possible since the US gov can't as easily subpoena them as us-based big tech.[/QUOTE]I can't even figure out how to email them. Ill look more closely.
I'm using a Gmail account.
This is so baffling. Literally, the only change to my profile was to add a real face picture (versus one with me holding my phone in front of my face) to my private photos. It's just a picture of me, fully clothed. Otherwise my profile is unchanged from what it has been for 4 or 5 years.
So I met Star34 DD at Beaches in Vancouver as part of a meet an greet arrangement. She agreed to a free meal then gave no indication that it would go further oh and BTW she text me later and said she had vids for sale at $200 a pop. I replied why would buy your vids when I could watch porn and JO for free.
The 2nd date I had made had the courtesy of at least telling me she had something to do after our date before hand, so I knew there was no chance of anything. So I cancelled.
I did pay for a 3 month membership so we'll see. Oh and would you be surprised I get plenty of likes. From Columbia and other far away places! LOL.
Looks like it's back to MPs for me!
Good luck out there and be safe!
I don't want to claim to be an expert on SA, but I've had some good luck. My best being a cute 20 yo Asian co-ed with whom I had a 7-8 month fling.
This is my advice (assuming you're looking for PPM):
If she messages you first she is probably DTF (ignore the foreign ones, but the ones from large cities could be visiting soon).
Don't pay for meetups, but that's not to say don't give her anything. Have a gift card or two you can give out. It might cost a little if it doesn't pan out, but that's part of the game.
Look for profiles that say things like good with "short term" arrangments.
And amateur style pics that include something in lingerie.
This is a new one, but if you look at her wish list and it has several pieces of lingerie and sex toys I think that is a good sign too.
I've just been lurking recently because I have most of my fun money tied up, but these are some I have favorited recently (if anyone sees them I'd at least like a DM about it).
This one because of the slutty maid costume.
[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/b3f9771d-800e-4665-b68c-b5512d446bdc[/URL]#x.
This one is because of lingerie pic and talk of traveling.
[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/3cae1656-ba1c-46b4-91ad-fdd63741c0bb[/URL]
Chubby little Asian describes her ideal date as ending in her bed (if she was a tad more attractive I might rejoin for this one).
[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/a5a0834a-7af9-4d62-b5d5-73a396cf3651[/URL]
You might have to take this one on two dates, but that's out in the open at least.
[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/ff015708-4253-4172-8e9f-24280dbd6de8[/URL]
This one hasn't logged back on, but the profile pretty much says it all.
[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/119bfe1b-1033-496e-9782-c7ac92a155cf[/URL]
[QUOTE=Beaver01;5592704]I don't want to claim to be an expert on SA, but I've had some good luck. My best being a cute 20 yo Asian co-ed with whom I had a 7-8 month fling.
This is my advice (assuming you're looking for PPM):
If she messages you first she is probably DTF (ignore the foreign ones, but the ones from large cities could be visiting soon).
Don't pay for meetups, but that's not to say don't give her anything. Have a gift card or two you can give out. It might cost a little if it doesn't pan out, but that's part of the game.
Look for profiles that say things like good with "short term" arrangments.
And amateur style pics that include something in lingerie.
This is a new one, but if you look at her wish list and it has several pieces of lingerie and sex toys I think that is a good sign too.
I've just been lurking recently because I have most of my fun money tied up, but these are some I have favorited recently (if anyone sees them I'd at least like a DM about it).
This one because of the slutty maid costume.
[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/b3f9771d-800e-4665-b68c-b5512d446bdc[/URL]#x.
This one is because of lingerie pic and talk of traveling.[/QUOTE]I'd check out your pics but I got banned. LOL.
[QUOTE=ButtMan343;5594759]I'd check out your pics but I got banned. LOL.[/QUOTE]The posted account is gone.
[QUOTE=DowntownDave;5567410]Frequent visitor to PDX here. Wanted to reccomend the app Whisper for non-pros 'cause you guys got it good here with that app. What follows here may seem like a shill (it's not) or a brag (well, sorta), but mostly wanted to relay my experience in case it helps anyone. Background: the app lets you post and respond anonymously to one or two line posts, then PM. It's used by working girls, horrible guys, non-pros and civilian ladies with mental health issues. I've hooked up about 5 times over the past year on there, mostly in California and Seattle. Mostly non working girls and all non-pros, but Portland has been a gold mine. It takes a lot of practice to wade through the 90% of it that's bullshit and scams, and a ton of time sending PMs and trying different post strategies. When you find a real woman, the key is the same as any other site you guys use: be funny, don't be creepy or desperate, come across as wealthy, down to earth and professional.
Night 1: Responded to a pretty generic ad from a girl that posted that she liked older men and women. Her chat rating and coherent responses indicated she was not a bot, a hooker deposit scam, or a working girl. Chat her up for a bit, exchange pics, convince her to hang out with me. She comes to my hotel. Early 20's, big tits, near spinner, cute as fuck. Like, adorable. She walks in, she's wet and ready to go, and 5 minutes later I'm fucking her raw in between face fucking her. She's not on BC so I pull out. No cost. Goes into my top 5.
Later that night, against my better judgment, I text SamanthaPDX (from TNA, but well known on LC). Seen her before. She is looking rougher but she'll still do anything. Creampie her and go to bed. DFK, BBFS, CIP, BBBJ. $$.
Night Two: Post an ad on the app implying I'm into no strings and also generous. Then reply to an ad of someone nearby 'wanting to hang out'. Brief chat, pics exchanged. We agree to meet at the hotel bar. She's broke as it turns out. We have a drink, I invite her to my room to get stoned. We do. Ask her if we can do sexual things. She is demure but she had put 2 and 2 together. Same guy who answered her ad just posted something about being generous. So, she says what's in it for me? I say a lot of fun and the cash in my wallet. Hmm, she's never done that before, but she considers it. HOLY FUCK YES. Turns out she's a sub so no problem closing the deal. This girl is in her early 20's, fucking hot as fuck. Quite literally looks like she's in porn. Nice tits, a little tummy, incredible ass, shaved pussy. Easily one of the 5 hottest girls I've ever fucked. Pull down her tights. DFK, BBJ, BBFS. She's super into it. I love when they feel naughty for fucking for money. I ask, she's not on BC either (what the fuck? So pull out again. This one goes into the top 3. $1. 6, about 3 hours.
Don't ask for contact info for the non-pros. The first was not a working girl at all and the second is not from Portland and leaving town. If you want Samantha's info, sure, but you can get that easily. My point is, try Whisper, especially when traveling. Be cool, and see what happens.[/QUOTE]I travel for work all over the west coast. Thank you for the tip this shit gets expensive.