About to hit Phx June 16-19, I'll report back on any successful meet-ups.
Any recommendations of girls is greatly appreciated.
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About to hit Phx June 16-19, I'll report back on any successful meet-ups.
Any recommendations of girls is greatly appreciated.
I have an SB who wants to do a lot of shopping, and I told her I'm not footing the bill for it. So, she wants to spread her wings to make some cash, and she wants me to find her some guys to see. She said she trusts me. Everything is on the table except CIP. Seniors private message me for more info. She's 19 nice body, submissive.
Hey has anybody had contact or info on a girl on SA, her name on her profile was BriarRides, any info would be good. Her account had been deleted.
[QUOTE=BbwLvr;5834094]Has anyone had any luck on this site? 90% of the profiles seem fake and the few that aren't, we message once or twice and then they ghost. Is there a trick to this?[/QUOTE]It had some legit users 3+ years ago. Now it's pretty much a total scam site.
[QUOTE=LouisHernandez;5971387]It had some legit users 3+ years ago. Now it's pretty much a total scam site.[/QUOTE]I got an email from then saying a certain girl had released her private photos. The problem is we had talked months before, I had already seen her private pics, before she ghosted me, LOL. I met one girl from SB, and she couldn't go thru with it.
Seeking rookie here what are some dos and donts?
Not sure how true it is but I have seen guys say they haven't had to pay some women on there anything.
[QUOTE=Lyle416;5976119]Seeking rookie here what are some dos and donts?
Not sure how true it is but I have seen guys say they haven't had to pay some women on there anything.[/QUOTE]Yes, that's true, but usually younger, good-looking guys with a good game. And it usually includes a nice dinner and drinks before the show begins.
[QUOTE=Lyle416;5976119]Seeking rookie here what are some dos and donts?
Not sure how true it is but I have seen guys say they haven't had to pay some women on there anything.[/QUOTE]Just be a respectable person and treat the ladies the same and you will be fine. I've had several free encounters, if you both click then who knows what will happen. Don't be a weirdo or a creep and you should be ok.
[QUOTE=CashDaddy47;5976701]Yes, that's true, but usually younger, good-looking guys with a good game. And it usually includes a nice dinner and drinks before the show begins.[/QUOTE]You need to delete some of your PM's, the system says you're full and can't receive anymore.
[QUOTE=MurkinTwats;5981726]You need to delete some of your PM's, the system says you're full and can't receive anymore.[/QUOTE]Done! Thanks.
Thanks for the advice fellas. I started talking to someone on there and everything was fine until she said she wanted 500 for ppm ugh.
[QUOTE=Lyle416;5986789]Thanks for the advice fellas. I started talking to someone on there and everything was fine until she said she wanted 500 for ppm ugh.[/QUOTE]You can try to negotiate with her, some will go down in price, but a lot are asking 400 to 600 these days.
[QUOTE=CashDaddy47;5987144]You can try to negotiate with her, some will go down in price, but a lot are asking 400 to 600 these days.[/QUOTE]It would be one thing if it was more of a SB arrangement at 500 per meet but 500 for a wham bam thing is not worth it. Lots of good looking providers in the 300 range on different sites.
I travel all over the states and Phoenix was the worse response rate for me. LOL Any tips!
[QUOTE=Animal131;6001515]I travel all over the states and Phoenix was the worse response rate for me. LOL Any tips![/QUOTE]Lower your standards. This place is a desert in more ways than one.
[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/f757f571-f542-4cbc-a4b5-e42fc92fef41[/URL]
I know that desert been been dry AF boys but here's one for you. I haven't been able to see her yet but she's mocha skinned but hot af.
She is a bottle service girl in Scottsdale and down to pound. She started at $600 but I got her down to $500. Haven't yet inquired about full range of services as I don't want to scare her off. She does give out a semi-pro vibe though.
[QUOTE=Fudgsicle;6034769][URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/f757f571-f542-4cbc-a4b5-e42fc92fef41[/URL]
I know that desert been been dry AF boys but here's one for you. I haven't been able to see her yet but she's mocha skinned but hot af.
She is a bottle service girl in Scottsdale and down to pound. She started at $600 but I got her down to $500. Haven't yet inquired about full range of services as I don't want to scare her off. She does give out a semi-pro vibe though.[/QUOTE]I don't know about this one my friend. She did not fill out the seeking section and all of the pictures have her face in them. I hope that she is real but there are a lot of scams on seeking. Please proceed with caution.
Hello all, any experience with cuddle-comfort ladies around the valley, Especially for extras? I had tried with visiting ladies (from CA, CO) last year but didn't seem to get more than touch and fondle, I'm hoping there are some gals who provide the extra comfort, but not sure how to find out, most profiles say platonic so don't want to break the glass without knowing, feel free to share if anyone had better luck. Thanks!!
[QUOTE=DesertRat;6036238]I don't know about this one my friend. She did not fill out the seeking section and all of the pictures have her face in them. I hope that she is real but there are a lot of scams on seeking. Please proceed with caution.[/QUOTE]You can never be to sure. Honestly your caution is refreshing because most guys are horny AF and will run at it with blinders on.
I feel more sure about her than most other girls I've talked to. Couple reasons, we have video chatted (to verify), personal socials (including work IG), she was upfront about what she wanted, was willing to meet for a meal or coffee for further verification.
Most other girls I've talked to from down there are space cadets in their own right. But yes proceed with caution as always gentlemen, think with your big head not your little one (yes I know it's hard at times.
[QUOTE=Rynsa4;6038550]Hello all, any experience with cuddle-comfort ladies around the valley, Especially for extras? I had tried with visiting ladies (from CA, CO) last year but didn't seem to get more than touch and fondle, I'm hoping there are some gals who provide the extra comfort, but not sure how to find out, most profiles say platonic so don't want to break the glass without knowing, feel free to share if anyone had better luck. Thanks!![/QUOTE]I have tried only a couple, and never got extras. It should be a good resource. Too expensive for just a cuddle.
[QUOTE=Rynsa4;6038550]Hello all, any experience with cuddle-comfort ladies around the valley, Especially for extras? I had tried with visiting ladies (from CA, CO) last year but didn't seem to get more than touch and fondle, I'm hoping there are some gals who provide the extra comfort, but not sure how to find out, most profiles say platonic so don't want to break the glass without knowing, feel free to share if anyone had better luck. Thanks!![/QUOTE]I've tried setting up with a couple that seemed promising, but was looking for one that would host and all the ladies that seemed like there might be a possibility, didn't host. There are some threads on reddit where mongers claim to have gotten lucky with the cuddlers, but they all seem to be in other cities.
[QUOTE=Rynsa4;6038550]Hello all, any experience with cuddle-comfort ladies around the valley, Especially for extras? I had tried with visiting ladies (from CA, CO) last year but didn't seem to get more than touch and fondle, I'm hoping there are some gals who provide the extra comfort, but not sure how to find out, most profiles say platonic so don't want to break the glass without knowing, feel free to share if anyone had better luck. Thanks!![/QUOTE]Oh man, now that is one site I never thought I'd see mentioned on here. What an insane site filled with solid 4/10's charging $100+ *per hour* to platonically cuddle, 90% of which do not offer any extras.
Now, there are a few genuine hotties on there, and I admittedly probably dropped a cool $10 k on that site (about half of that on the same 2-3 girls I'd see regularly who did some extras) in a years time between 2020-2021 before I finally tried out SA. I was able to "charm" several girls into cuddling in just a bra and panties (or in some cases just panties and nothing else) with lots of fondling / mutual massage involved, but none would go past that with me. I cringe every time I think about how much I spent on that site and how many real fucks that $ could have gotten me with SA girls.
I have no PHX recs since I am an out of town traveler, but my advice is not to bother with CC. You will spend a ton of time trying to scout out who will offer extras just to waste your time and be yelled at by the landwhales who expect guys to just cuddle with them for several hundreds of dollars. As I've now learned, if you play the game right, you can get an entire night with a solid looking girl on SA with limitless fucking for the same price as 2-3 hours with a "professional" cuddler who will at the very most just leave you hanging with blue balls even if they do let you escalate things a little bit.
[QUOTE=Halcyanon;6041262]Oh man, now that is one site I never thought I'd see mentioned on here. What an insane site filled with solid 4/10's charging $100+ *per hour* to platonically cuddle, 90% of which do not offer any extras.
Now, there are a few genuine hotties on there, and I admittedly probably dropped a cool $10 k on that site (about half of that on the same 2-3 girls I'd see regularly who did some extras) in a years time between 2020-2021 before I finally tried out SA. I was able to "charm" several girls into cuddling in just a bra and panties (or in some cases just panties and nothing else) with lots of fondling / mutual massage involved, but none would go past that with me. I cringe every time I think about how much I spent on that site and how many real fucks that $ could have gotten me with SA girls.
I have no PHX recs since I am an out of town traveler, but my advice is not to bother with CC. You will spend a ton of time trying to scout out who will offer extras just to waste your time and be yelled at by the landwhales who expect guys to just cuddle with them for several hundreds of dollars. As I've now learned, if you play the game right, you can get an entire night with a solid looking girl on SA with limitless fucking for the same price as 2-3 hours with a "professional" cuddler who will at the very most just leave you hanging with blue balls even if they do let you escalate things a little bit.[/QUOTE]An excellent summary and comparison. Not worth it the time, effort, or funding.
[QUOTE=Halcyanon;6041262]Oh man, now that is one site I never thought I'd see mentioned on here. What an insane site filled with solid 4/10's charging $100+ *per hour* to platonically cuddle, 90% of which do not offer any extras.
Now, there are a few genuine hotties on there, and I admittedly probably dropped a cool $10 k on that site (about half of that on the same 2-3 girls I'd see regularly who did some extras) in a years time between 2020-2021 before I finally tried out SA. I was able to "charm" several girls into cuddling in just a bra and panties (or in some cases just panties and nothing else) with lots of fondling / mutual massage involved, but none would go past that with me. I cringe every time I think about how much I spent on that site and how many real fucks that $ could have gotten me with SA girls.
I have no PHX recs since I am an out of town traveler, but my advice is not to bother with CC. You will spend a ton of time trying to scout out who will offer extras just to waste your time and be yelled at by the landwhales who expect guys to just cuddle with them for several hundreds of dollars. As I've now learned, if you play the game right, you can get an entire night with a solid looking girl on SA with limitless fucking for the same price as 2-3 hours with a "professional" cuddler who will at the very most just leave you hanging with blue balls even if they do let you escalate things a little bit.[/QUOTE]Thanks for sharing, I agree it takes lot of time, money, effort and patience to get the actual comfort in CC, in SA also there are so many fake profiles and time waster, Haven't had good luck, but in my opinion sometimes if one has the time and patience exploring the unknown out of the hotties is a good game, at first she seems hesitant and after pouring attention eventually the panties do come off, LOL! It's like keep watering the plant for sometime to yield the fruits of your labor. The AMPs that give 100% bang for the buck are still much better, but when one gets bored the exploration game seems interesting especially for the 20 yo hotties who generally give up, best of luck everyone!
[QUOTE=MurkinTwats;6040670]I've tried setting up with a couple that seemed promising, but was looking for one that would host and all the ladies that seemed like there might be a possibility, didn't host. There are some threads on reddit where mongers claim to have gotten lucky with the cuddlers, but they all seem to be in other cities.[/QUOTE]Just curious about the reddit thread you are talking about so I can see if there is tips in my area. I am not sure about New England girls on the cuddling website.
[QUOTE=PeaceLovers;6062878]Just curious about the reddit thread you are talking about so I can see if there is tips in my area. I am not sure about New England girls on the cuddling website.[/QUOTE]The first positive one, is the original I saw. There were some others after that but didn't come up in my search, besides this second not so positive thread.
[URL]https://www.reddit.com/r/HappyEndingMassage/comments/vbsly4/cuddle/?sort=top[/URL]
[URL]https://www.reddit.com/r/HappyEndingMassage/comments/vkxvax/i_dont_believe_the_cuddle_posts_and_did_try_one/[/URL]
[QUOTE=MurkinTwats;6095028]The first positive one, is the original I saw. There were some others after that but didn't come up in my search, besides this second not so positive thread.
[URL]https://www.reddit.com/r/HappyEndingMassage/comments/vbsly4/cuddle/?sort=top[/URL]
[URL]https://www.reddit.com/r/HappyEndingMassage/comments/vkxvax/i_dont_believe_the_cuddle_posts_and_did_try_one/[/URL][/QUOTE]I thought about replying on reddit but it's not like we need more assholes ruining the cuddle experience. It's not a good bang for your buck endeavor for most. It can be great if you:
* Enjoy the chase and the fact you don't know what will happen but actually enjoy the cuddling experience regardless. Similar to how you'd search for SBs but you have to be far more discreet at first. You can't even hint at extras, revealing clothing, etc.
* Are respectful and don't give off an entitled or 'all women are ******. The only question is the price' vibe.
* Always show up freshly showered with good breath and not wearing a banana hammock or leopard silk boxers. Seriously, who the hell sees any provider or professional while their junk stinks? It's like going to the dentist without brushing your teeth for two days.
* Can read the room / provider and don't immediately start pushing boundaries. It's a seduction, yes, but the provider should come out of it with a smile and a sincere request that you repeat.
It's also a reality that the more attractive / charming you are, the better your chances. I'm not a movie start but am conventionally attractive and non-threatening. It's worked out for me to get far better service (s) for similar money to what I'd pay for AMPs or escorts with a very different type of lady. Less jaded, more girl / mom next door.
One cuddler in Phoenix sent a detailed price list / menu in advance. It was ridiculous even for an 8-10 level (she's a 5. 1 at best). I cancelled the session.
Other cuddlers were so sweet that I didn't want to disappoint them or make them not like cuddling. They truly cared about what they're doing so why shit on that? Just being able to cup their breasts and be close enough for them to feel my erection without pulling away was stimulating and enjoyable. Sometimes it wasn't even that. Just platonic cuddling.
Other cuddlers would be ones I wouldn't go for on a sugar site but for some reason were hot as hell to cuddle, including larger / older ones. Some ended up being the best sex ever with a few turning into almost free use situations (I still gave them gifts / help). Only one totally flipped on me. She initiated each escalation and I was the one who paused to use protection, yet she had regrets after and reported me. Not worth arguing but it sucked because I asked for verbal agreement before we moved to each step. She's still on the site, sigh.
Final thought is you'll be more successful if you have a few sessions with pure platonic cuddlers and get good karma. Don't even hint at or try anything. That might be too much time /$ when you can get exactly what you want via massage / escorts / AMPs / SBs but again, if you like the chase and seduction, it can be good. If you have no karma, no public pic you may not even get a reply from most cuddlers.
Some of the most vocal cuddlers on Cud comfort forums who relentlessly post about boundaries / platonic cuddling have done more but it was because we built trust, not because I offered more $. The vast majority fucking hate guys who expect extras and even more who are predatory about it. There's really high turnover because of that and what used to be a wonderful option has gotten much tougher. Truly a 'That's why we can't have nice things. ' self-inflicted wound.
Does anyone have a SDM account. I need help figuring out if a particular person blocked me or is no longer there. I have a dummy account but if you don't pay you can't search.
Sorry no URL, I think she deleted her SA, or blocked me. Just pics.
18 yo, messaged me for a week and a half. Definitely a real girl -- one of the pics is from her LinkedIn, her name is Casandra S. (DM me for her full name & email).
Since I knew she was real and she seemed on board to meet for dinner, I sent her money and gifts upfront. BAD IDEA.
She kept me waiting 2 hours for our date with a BS story about feeling unwell and then a traffic jam.
This girl spent 2 weeks scamming me for $150. She would have made double that on our first date even with a little kissing and no sex.
Don't reward scammers and catfish.
[QUOTE=LaterGreen;6124806]Sorry no URL, I think she deleted her SA, or blocked me. Just pics.
18 yo, messaged me for a week and a half. Definitely a real girl -- one of the pics is from her LinkedIn, her name is Casandra S. (DM me for her full name & email).
Since I knew she was real and she seemed on board to meet for dinner, I sent her money and gifts upfront. BAD IDEA.
She kept me waiting 2 hours for our date with a BS story about feeling unwell and then a traffic jam.
This girl spent 2 weeks scamming me for $150. She would have made double that on our first date even with a little kissing and no sex.
Don't reward scammers and catfish.[/QUOTE]Please everyone stop sending money to women before you meet. You are setting the standard and then it will only get worse and open everyone to getting played. I'm sorry you lost your money, but you should know better than fronting any woman you haven't met before.
[QUOTE=JohnJjjj8888;6124945]Please everyone stop sending money to women before you meet. You are setting the standard and then it will only get worse and open everyone to getting played. I'm sorry you lost your money, but you should know better than fronting any woman you haven't met before.[/QUOTE]You are 100% right and I have been doing this long enough to know better. Shame on me. Learn from my mistake! Never again!!
[URL]https://members.seeking.com/messages/inbox/e6c0f2a8-2a1d-4723-9c4e-34ef8dca96cc[/URL]
This time I didn't send her money first. We agreed on (expensive restaurant) at my suggestion. The time was of her choosing and she agreed to my monetary offer for her conversation during dinner and clearly stated no expectations of anything else. Ghosted me totally. All she had to do was show up have a nice meal and walk away with a generous but not crazy amount.
What is wrong here man?!
[QUOTE=LaterGreen;6126944][URL]https://members.seeking.com/messages/inbox/e6c0f2a8-2a1d-4723-9c4e-34ef8dca96cc[/URL]
This time I didn't send her money first. We agreed on (expensive restaurant) at my suggestion. The time was of her choosing and she agreed to my monetary offer for her conversation during dinner and clearly stated no expectations of anything else. Ghosted me totally. All she had to do was show up have a nice meal and walk away with a generous but not crazy amount.
What is wrong here man?![/QUOTE]Do you really need to wine and dine these girls to fuck them? I never used [URL]seeking.com[/URL] but it seems like a hassle if I had to do all that crap for average women (going to a bar might yield better results and you don't have to waste money, LOL). Let me know how you do it if you're an expert at it.
[QUOTE=Kelso111;6127607]Do you really need to wine and dine these girls to fuck them? I never used [URL]seeking.com[/URL] but it seems like a hassle if I had to do all that crap for average women (going to a bar might yield better results and you don't have to waste money, LOL). Let me know how you do it if you're an expert at it.[/QUOTE]From my experience on seeking, no, you do not have to. I don't use seeking anymore because it seems the membership prices keep going up and up. I can say though, in the past I have probably met 25 girls on there and each one we met first at a local coffee shop just to verify that I wasn't being catfished or robbed and all of them were cool with that. The casino is another good place to do a first visit to sit and have a drink, most coffee shops are small so I always feel like I have to rush to let someone else have the table. There is much more involved in a sugarbaby relationship because to some girls, if you connect, it's not a transaction, but sometimes they will want to come over or have you over just for fun. I've even connected with some and never paid anything at all.
[QUOTE=SpaSearcher;6128117]. There is much more involved in a sugarbaby relationship because to some girls, if you connect, it's not a transaction, but sometimes they will want to come over or have you over just for fun. I've even connected with some and never paid anything at all.[/QUOTE]That's what I like, prop to you.
Phoenix used to be amazing for sugaring. There used to be, lots of girls willing to meet a traveler and have hotel fun for $$.
Not anymore. Most are asking $5 just to meet. Here is a summary:
StunningBaby=750.
Arizona_babe= Headcase. Will not discuss anything, wants to meet in person. Not text communication.
Scarlette=Only want to video chat.
Wittybritty= 800-1200.
PeteteBeauty=Fake. 2 girls Claim to be in Tempe. 507 area code.
Temptationlyyours=500/ week. 218 area code.
Ksunflower25= Drama Queen. No intention of meeting. Just online arguments.
Bossybunny=400/ hr to meet for drinks.
BARBIETEA=500. But has anger issues.
And the Real Evil ones:
Babygirl22= Spoke to her on the phone. She demanded I Venmo her money. And how I do not understand the hard life of a poor female student.
Treatmenice1107= This curvy girl is a blackmailer. Set up a date on the phone. And then started demanding 600-1000 at the time we were supposed to meet. Here is a tip, NEVER give a girl your hotel address or room number.
HonestPrincess= Nothing honest about her. Her Voicemail is full. She gives a Sob story. Makes dates, and never shows up.
I have about 40 phone numbers. Ended up meeting no one.
Senior members, if you want phone numbers of any of the girls listed DM me.
[QUOTE=Happtrav;6134622]BARBIETEA=500. But has anger issues.
Senior members, if you want phone numbers of any of the girls listed DM me.[/QUOTE]I love angry girls, LOL. Did you end up sleeping with her?
Hey Az Daddies. Just posting this so you guys don't waste a week of your life texting this catfish like I did.
Of course first red flag was 19 why o & TGTBT. I've banged a few 18-22 why o absolutely gorgeous princesses over the last couple of years on Seeking, so if communication is good I do get enticed.
Hers (him?) was first rate. Even sent a couple of specific pics I requested.
Oh, I'm in Richmond, Va & she was previously showing being in Sterling, Va. Up near DC, about an hour and a half drive. She was hitting all the right notes, sounded like a newbie who's GF had used SA & was making some $ seeing older Daddies. We had established she would come to a hotel about half an hour west of her hometown, straight to my hotel Sunday afternoon. Confirmed she knew what she was coming for.
Then last night I text her & get the STOP text. Checked her profile & now she shows up in Scottsdale. I'd say avoid her but do a long time SM a solid. Could everyone bombard her inbox. Offer her $2,000! Fuck with her, since she (he?) has no intentions of fucking anyone!
[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/b0522fa5-df89-4abf-8189-6c8df6a7933b[/URL]
[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/abe25c3a-dd75-441d-a146-3ca9d82c3b22[/URL]
This young black stripper has been messaging me. She admits to having one child and being all about the Benjamins. She has yet to set a firm price.
[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/45ffce6f-f559-4d88-942c-79e9e9b17880[/URL]
This one is married and wants a $4,000 a month allowance.
Just curious if anyone here on the + side of 60 is having success with any of the SB sites. I haven't used such a site yet, but I'm thinking the chase could be part of the fun. I'd be looking for more mature SBs I think. I think I like the idea of PPM than a longer term situation. Appreciate any feedback from fellow senior SDs.