Upcomming Trial of X. Will You Attend?
So the trial of X is set to commence on April 13th, two days before Tax day! So who is planning on attending?
I guess if there is enough interest we could rent a party bus and go down and see the proceedings. Not sure it would be a good idea to bring a bunch of ladies along on the Party Bus, but it is a thought! Central meet up, will be conveniently located just off the expressway at the Days Inn on Belle Hill Road.
A memorial with drinks & refreshments will be served afterwards at the Days Inn, Room 209! Not sure how many girls plan to attend the Memorial, but I am sure We will Have a Fun Time!
Party goers are requested to park in front of the room, exit their vehicle, turn and wave to the pole cam and then proceed to the room! Oh and party proceedings will be video taped using GoPro cams, strategically located in the room.
I know for many it will be a sigh of relief and others a chance to mourn their loss. We could book adjacent rooms for those who need to get away from the proceedings for a bit or those who forget to bring a designated driver.
Entry to the party will be free, just need to verify you, so send a picture of you and you ID and one of just your ID to the party line to get confirmation and a [U]slot[/U] in this party.
So who is in?
Message Board Use: Interesting Approaches
I see there are quite a few screen names with low post counts engaging the conversation these days. Hey, that is great! Either we have some new blood or these are new IDs created as a result of the WHFT fiasco. Hey new blood is great and new perspectives are always needed and welcome.
Now that said, I see some "interesting" trends in the way many post here. Perhaps I won't state this well, but here goes a try. Seems like, like azzh*les, everyone has an OPINION and thinks it valid to share that opinion. OK, I get that. But when one is just plain wrong or ignores the history of the threads when posting that opinion then Hmmmm.
Not to pick on anyone poster but an example comes from a recent post where a dude posted a picture of a girl and asked for information on her. Apparently the dude had a picture with two girls in it and cropped out one girl and asked about the other, the girl on the right of the picture. That probably was a mistake, poster should have posted the pic of both girls and asked who was the girl on the right AND identiy the girl on the left. But some monger comes along and states with conviction that the girl's name was ABC when in fact that was not true: the girl who was cropped out of the picture was ABC. OK, so the dude had wishful thinking and was excited: been there & done that! No worries. But what I found "interesting" was that this started a huge debate with many wrong "opinions" being posted and it wasn't until three or more dudes confirmed facts that the debate ended. Oh and in the middle of it, a few thought it was a good idea to take shots at others. So for a while we had the blind leading the blind. But hey, I guess if one is of the internet culture then this is the way they chose to live their lives and think. History has no value and all posters are scammers until proven otherwise in real time? Ignoring history or ignoring experience can be detrimental to one's safety. I'd caution others to think deeper, use history and understand that some of the LT posters are here to be helpful, they don't need to post, but do so to help others. So if you want to discount what someone says based on style, that is your prerogative. Boards would be much more useful if 'exercises in futility' were kept to a minimum, ego was checked and personal attacks eliminated.
Then I see a trend toward posting an opinion or what one "could do" which is theoretical in nature and something which the poster has no direct knowledge of or experience with. OK, new ideas are good and help dudes adapt as needed. But are these posts from a place of being helpful or seeing one's post in print? Are we seeking admiration and accolades from others? Are we getting some satisfaction from challenging others or taking counter-points from them? I have always said, [U]this is only wh*rem*ngering![/U] As such who cares if one gets accolades from some anon mongers on a MB? Nothing you can add to your resume, share with your friends or hold up in the town square. Maybe there are many who love this kind of "Survivor" mentality and take credence with those who counter punch the most? Hey that is anyone's choice to believe and act that way. I think it leads to the blind leading the blind, which in my experience is poor risk management approach.
Then I see dudes setting up strawmen only to turn around and knock them down. Again, what is the purpose in doing that? How does that advance the discussion? More self engrandization? More Survivor mentality?
[B]These boards can be what you make of them.[/B]
My advice, based on my experience over many years and many learning experiences is to use the history and advice here to learn and develop some skills. Any hobby has a learning curve. Many experienced dudes who have gone before you have left bread crumbs and good advice. There are risks in this hobby and how one chooses to manage that risk is a choice one makes or ignores. Have seen too many become statistics because of ignorance (lack of knowledge) when indeed the knowledge was right on this site for them to learn.
So a few thoughts on the trends I see here. Hope this trend doesn't continue as constant engagement on this level is of little interest.
Good luck & stay safe Amigos!
STDs The Third Rail of this Site
Gents wake up! You can not talk about STDs on this site but in few select threads and you are specifically prohibited from posting that any girl is has an STD " in the forum unless substantiated by links to internet-accessible public records. ".
For those who missed it, a few years ago there was a law passed called HIPPA. One of the things this law does is protect you from having your medical records released to anyone unless you give specific authorization.
But because there is no discussion of STDs on the information threads, should in no way lead gents to let their guards down on the subject.
Good luck to all and stay safe!
The rest on my thoughts are here:
Post #1125.
[URL]http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?4227-Safe-Sex-Information-and-Advice&p=4651432&viewfull=1[/URL]#post4651432.
I respectfully disagree Amigo
[I] moved this convo here since this is the closest thing I could find to a fight thread on this site and as to not cross any lines with the mods. Hope the thread Mod doesn't object and delte the post?[/I]
[QUOTE=RugByMan;4849390]Shew, the wrath of Shampoo. Yes, I have found many sites. Most girls have not. There is no new blood, just the same old same olds posting on them. I think we can all agree it has slowed things down and its rough out there. I was just making a very general comment. Sorry it offended you so my friend. I'll buy you an Asian Massage so you can get some of your pent up anger out. 😄.[/QUOTE]I respectfully disagree. There is lots of "new" pussy to be found and since things opened up, things have picked up.
That list has hundreds of girls on it in all price ranges, not just the same girls. Oh sure there are a few sites that are consolidators or re-posters, but if one looks around there are many girls that are real that are available. Shoot, every time I do DD I find one of those sites and often do a little look around on the site. I set aside a girl who looks interesting and as a result have tens of possibilities on my 'list' as POTs.
I guess if one has to conclude there is no new blood, that they have not cast a very wide net or are fishing in the same fishing hole. [u]Be like the Marines, adapt, improvise and overcome![/u]
* When the sites were slow because of lock downs, the streets were bustling. (adapt) I keep seeing reports of "new" girls on the strolls all of the time.
* I see a few DE mongers on the Philly boards and I too include that in my search area. (adjust) Shoot the airport is a short drive up 95. No need to go to NE Philly, plenty in SW Philly or the burbs between here and there (upto and including West Chester).
* Or one can go upscale and try some of the pricier sites: eros, tryst as the "same girls" aren't there as on CXG! (crazy but do-able).
* Oh and if one wants new girls there are always the SB sites, but hey that takes some effort. (adapt).
* Then of course I have a stable of regulars I can go to AND who often can find me a new girl on demand. (improvise).
* If you want truly "new" and unreviewed go hit the GPB stroll! (adjust).
* Oh and from time to time there is a creative monger that reports success picking up Single Moms in Wally World or Wawa or where ever (improvise).
So from my view I can find many more girls that I could ever date and I am baffled by so many guys bemoaning the loss of CXG!
So I didn't get up on the wrong side of the bed. [b]Got to wonder what is one's criteria such that they see the glass half empty?[/b]
If you want help why not state what are your search criteria? Size, shape, color, attributes. Where are you looking is it a narrow area? What is your price range?
Sorry for not agreeing and not being all Kumbyah, just many dudes in the same boat. Can't find anyone because the one site they used is down. [b]What is the real issue here?[/b]
This site is about helping others find girls. I have done that by pointing out resources. If one wants specific type of girl then state what you are looking for and perhaps another will share?
Lets Rip the bandage off.
[QUOTE=Shampoo55;4961322]There are two things I'll comment on.
First, yeah, it takes no time to give answers, but one has to think how the other guy got those answers? So what the "big deal is" is that he probably invested his time and experience in doing the research. Or he spent his time and MONEY having an encounter. [B]Someone spent time, money and effort to get those answers, like a paralegal, why should his efforts be free?[/B].
Problem is that history around here shows that too many dudes show up with their hand out and take, take, take. They go see the girls but never provide reports back. How is that fair? Also there is a HUGE contingent of lurk only types as well. (would be interested to see the number of registered users in DE versus regular posters) Read the threads and one will see that it is a small number of guys doing all of the work. So how is it fair that the others getting off 'scot free'? [B]The way this works is that EVERYONE reading here contributes a little.[/B] But I suspect we'll continue to see numerous posters with no reports, demanding free information or info that can be found by a bit of research.
Second, [B]going and doing the research is a matter of safety and security.[/B] This is a free country and one is always free to choose to ignore basic safety steps! The record shows HUNDREDS of guys ignored that in the X case. We see posts frequently from guys who got ripped-off when posts indicated the girls were bad news or the guys rushed in and were unaware of the basic 'rules' of the hobby.
But hey, I don't see many newbies asking 'how to' questions. Why is that? Hubris? It looks easy? Ignorance? Afraid to look un-knowledgeable in public? This place is the best thing, next to a bunch of YouTube videos, on 'how to,' it is shocking how few use the resource.
[U]If one is afraid they are going to do research wrong, then they clearly have much to learn![/U] Now I get no one wants to hear that something as easy as scooping a girl or responding to an online advert is complex or requires a bit of learning. But again, each person is responsible for their own safety! You can't farm that out to posters on a MB! You need Spidey Senses, techniques, knowledge and gile in your quiver when sh! T happens. No time to stop, post on a thread and get a reply.
Part of doing research, like hobbying, is learning how to. Instead of insisting others do or think for them, each dude needs to learn "how to" for himself! Mistakes will be made in the hobby, it is each guy's choice of the severity of those mistakes by the knowledge they obtain. You can learn "experientially" on the streets, hotels, etc or "book learn" here. Oh the later will make you a bit of a nerd, but the former could cause financial loss, arrest or physical harm. Your choice: learn to do "research" or blindly stumble along.
So what are the arguments against learning to do research on one's own?
So while we are all here for the same purpose, please do not forget to 'do your part' and post reports or ask technique questions.[/QUOTE]Shampoo55. I'll speak for myself only. My comments had you in mind at the top of the list. And I'm almost sure that the others on this thread have others in mind. But you specifically targeted. We all appreciate wisdom. But your comments on every damn post that is put up. Really shits all over the reason this forum exists.
I'm a grown man. And at this point in life. I don't need the teacher to review my book report.
Sometimes boards are best served when you sit back and read. And stop the attempt at being the superior Monger here. And in at least in 2 other states.
Monger on!
What kind of Douchebag does stupid stuff like this?
Due invites a girl over to his house (Dooh #1) Now girl knows his Name, Address type of car and oh BTW what is his profession (unique).
Then dude solicits sex acts from the girl for money (illegal) (Dooh #2) and instead of having money available, tells her he has no cash and will get some tomorrow when his people come over (Dooh #3).
Then the girl provide all of these details to yours truly. (Dooh #4).
So dudes, WAKE UP and think! You think it is smart to rip these girls off? What if she and her hood rat friends decide to make a visit to your house and cause a scene. What if she decides to cry rape? I am sure she would be glad to trade charges with you: take the misdemeanor prostitution charge against your charge for rape (felony) that won't look good on your record.
The Way Things Work Around Here
So yeah, my post about my weekend activities generated some interest. Understandable.
But one dude shows up and literally BEGS for digits! I mean 3 Pleases in a row? (Please Please Please) So I look at the dude's profile and see here's been around for 2 years (8/2018) and has a total of 3 posts!
So it needs to be said, if types like this bother to read the boards. Here is how things work around here!
You need to build some "cred" around here before anyone will take you serious! How do you do that?
1) Post reports about the dates you had. The more explicit the better. Don't just say it was nice or the the girl was nice. We want to know how things went:
* What services did you get?
* How was the girl at providing those services? The best you ever had? Average? Was she too toothy with head, too fast, used her hand. How many positions, tight, loose. Etc.
* Where was the place you dated? Did she provide it? Was it clean, messy, safe?
* Where did you find her: street scoop? (where) Walmart pickup? Website (which one), referral?
* Is he with an agency? Independent? Has a BF, cousin? Handler?
2) You need to post a screen shot of her advert. Don't know how to do that on a smart phone? Google taking a screen shot on Android / iPhone. This does a few things. First it preserves the advert for others to see. Posting just a link is often useless and the posts or websites often go down. With the post captured, we have some info about the girl and about rates and contact info.
3) You need to post naked pictures of the girl! You can get those from her post, often girls will send one or take one during your date. Most won't object it you leave her face out of the frame and / or avoid any unique tats. Doing this builds instant cred. If you don't know why then you don't know what you need to know to be in the hobby.
4) One can build cred by telling about what methods or techniques one has used and asking for advice on how to improve. Think you know it all of that it is easy? The hobby has many lessons to teach, and one can learn those lessons by posting here, OR by getting ripped-off, scammed, injured or arrested.
5) If you are asking for something, have something to give in return. That is only fair. Why should any guy do all of the work and you just get a free ride? You may think you are a special case, but the person you asked has no idea that is the case. Your desperation isn't anyone else's concern to fix. We can help you learn "how to" so that you never need to be desperate again.
But showing up with your hand out with zero cred? I mean I guess it might work with a few that don't get it or those who work for LE. But this isn't Reddit or some other social media site. Guys have learned the hard way and want something in return. How does anyone know you aren't LE trying to set them up? We all know some level of LE lies like a rug and anyone who has watched a cop show knows they are permitted to lie in many circumstances. So how big a jump is it from referral to pimp? Might be low probability, but you want to have a convo to prove or refute such or have to hire a lawyer to get out of a jam?
So the bottom line is, show up and POST REPORTS! Build some cred, make some friends by helping out. Do that and the info flows freely through b / c.
The Esseance of Ignorance!
So I have a stalker, a dude who likes to slam my posts and send me hate mail every opportunity he can find to criticize something I wrote. Best I can tell the dude is jealous of what he's not getting? But hey I could be wrong.
But this recent PM takes the cake, he send me a note slamming me for writing that I stopped and talked to a girl and tossed her a few buck and bought her something to drink. Said that doing that made me a sucker and it was embarrassing! Just goes to show how stupid or dumb, or should I say ignorant (uneducated), some long term hobbyists are. Do you think this kindness is a waste of time?
I hope this isn't a case of people hating my style so they reject the message. That would be a bit silly - ignore what can help you because it isn't wrapped in Kumbayah?
If you don't know or understand why it is I did what I did then I can say with a certainty that you do not know what you need to know to be safe in the hobby. Hey that is fine ignorance is bliss and the cops need to arrest someone and the girls ripping off guys need to see you and perhaps you should date those with STDs too.
Running around the streets with so little knowledge, skills or understand of how to play the game is what is truly embarrassing!
Good luck Hobby!
Seriously? Again? Pissing Cotest Continues
[QUOTE=WeatherMan2;5008259]"resent others" he says. Nah just you LOL.
You over think everything. Your right first scoop was in 2017, and? If anything it just makes you look worse making a career out of trying to pick someone up since you've been around for decades. "sigh" .[/QUOTE]Just resent ME? OK, I get it! Some one show up and displays more knowledge than you and that gives you a hard-on for them. Got it! Maybe you should look inside and stop being a hater and open your mind, perhaps you could learn something? But then again, you think mongering is easy!
But you are now setting levels of mongering? You think someone who has been around a while is worse than one around a short time? Whoremongering is whoremongering! Look in the mirror you are no better, no worse. See you just have to put me down in order to prop yourself up. Sigh.
But like I noted, you just can't help yourself can you?
[QUOTE=WeatherMan2;4999411]Alright this will be the last time I go back and forth with you, because I'm sure others are tired of this soap opera. I need to do a better job of ignoring you and I will.
Alright that's it I'm done, you won't hear from me anymore just post whatever you want.[/QUOTE]LOL! Keep going. Guess you like wet shoes?
I am curious, which one are you? Jim Carey or Jeff Danels?
Getting Tired of Wet Shoes?
[QUOTE=Dbf3251;5039179]Are you even a real monger. I went back and in your last 100 posts. Yes ONE HUNDRED you have, count 'them, ZERO reviews. Do you ever help the community? Do you even have one review of a girl on here. Again, tone down the BS. Post a review if you actually saw a girl. You brag about a big stable. I know lots of girls in the area. I think you know none.[/QUOTE]LOL! Who died and made you Board Moderator? According to you, helping others learn to monger & stay safe and improving the quality of the boards is BS? There is more to these boards than just girls names & numbers!
[b]You are just a hater. [/b] I get it! I posted pictures of three UTR girls I dated. You sent me a PM asking for their numbers. I asked the girls if they wanted their names & numbers shared and THE GIRLS DECLINED! So now you have a hard-on for me? Didn't get what you wanted, so now are attacking me?
Keep going, I have a fire hose, if you want to keep up the wet shoes routine!
Observations, and Enough.
It becomes pretty clear who who is active, who is information mining etc, who is just taking up bandwidth.
Likewise who has or had multiple names usernames.
Then there are others because of their stupidity and or poor decisions got caught up in BS now believe they are the expert.
An expert with a different name.
Some are multiple screen name people are still alive and active, others dead. I don't mean dead as inactive. Well, I mean dead as in not living.
The Tri-State Area boards are becoming the Craigslist Rants and Raves section as they were up until a few years ago when changes to allowable posts on their board in general migrated people away. That is not a negative comment to USA but to a few posters.
Many mongers and providers have both taken a leave or semi leave of absence, myself included out of an abundance of caution. I still keep up on the boards both here and of providers. Fortunately, two things recently occurred for me, the opening of 1719 and the return of the VA's. So I am again active.
But I wish the Admin would take a serious look at the useless posts, posts without any reviews, review information that is actually the experience of others, and put a lid on constant Dribble on all of the DE Boards, S. Jersey and Philadelphia of Shampoo.
The individual consistently comments on the actions of others, believing he is providing sound advice. While countless others have provided sound advice to him to curtail the constant dribble and provide Real Useful Reports. Their suggestions are met with attacks.
While Censorship is a terrible thing, banning is even worse. Exercising self-control in posting is what this individual needs. I just don't know if that will happen. But another member in the Wilmington Board last night or this morning had a good post on the same, which was met with a response from him.
Clearly enough is enough. Shampoo can PM members if he has useful suggestions or information for them.
But being the self appointed Procedure, Health and Safety Sheriff and the accompanying Multiple Daily Posts are not welcomed by many.
It is OK to Attack but resent when you get a reply?
[QUOTE=JRichard;5040753]
[b]Then there are others because of their stupidity and or poor decisions got caught up in BS now believe they are the expert.[/b]
[/QUOTE]This is really the crux of the matter isn't it? A few posters think they are the experts and want to be the King of Mongers here! So guys like you attack.
