Asian Rosters Reviews Guides

[B]CAKD Amy[/B] - Beautiful exotic face, hourglass body, tits and ass, a big ass, C or D MMs, tanned, freestyle service rather than kgirl routine, knows how to have fun. Good suction on bbbj, active and aggressive, sex positive. Has a balance of looks and service but different vibe than other girls. Being respectful goes a long way to having fun. GFE but ymmv. Very firm massage. Very unique ymmv vibe. Important: active and aggressive as mentioned, not for guys who want gentle and passive. She is slimmer now. S-Tier face.

[B]CAKD Aoi J[/B] - Skinny, C cup tits natural, maybe 5'4", great body, good face, late 20s, long straight black hair. Body is her strong point. Good ass for an Asian, has a trimmed bush, pussy is good. Bbbj is good for HYA, good attitude and sweet voice. Elegant face, good figure. I like her all natural look and prefer skinny. Body is her strong point. Sweet demeaner after sex, very cute and expressive while vibing. Sometimes playfully teases you. Superior vibe to most jgirls, "wife style service". Would repeat. She is 350 hr, 100 bb.

[B]Get9 Baby Naye[/B] - Tiny spinner at 5'1", C or D cup MMs, white skin, thin waist, small hands and feet, good pussy, enjoys sex. Very cute. Good in many positions, good attitude. Long dark brown hair with curls. Cute vibe, very nice smile, I agree she is like a maid cafe girl. Same inner-eye highlights as Laurent (hope more girls try it). Service style is submissive. Very DTF. She has improved since last year in looks and skill, has a high tier pussy.

[B]CAKD Lauryn[/B] - Exotic mixed beauty, wonderful smile, submissive, still learning. 5'6", skinny with some hips, B or C cup MMs, feminine, long hair with some curls, about 30, pear shaped body, some English. Good attitude, nice personality, seems new. Looks over service, seems to enjoy all we did. She is quite beautiful with a hint of mature looks, same as Amy. She has model level looks and style. She had the #1 best smile until MH Yua showed up. It is still a top tier smile. Excellent choice of music, more girls should choose well. "Her smile is what all men wish to see."

[B]FA Eve[/B] - tall at 5'7", tanned, thick and meaty, dtf, she will fuck back a lot. 20s, B or C cup tits, GND face, waist reminds me of Baby Blue. Good attitude, newish, enjoys sex.

[B]Get9 Scarlett[/B] - Service queen MILF, she still has her looks. Very good face, C or D MMs a bit hard, petite, skilled, loves sex. Good BBBJ skills, in my journal I wrote and I quote "no teeth for miles". Pound town. Sweet girl, easy to vibe with decent English. Ad photos based on her, not far off especially the face. A service hunter will probably describe her better than me.

[B]CAKD Misaka J[/B] - Late 20s, pure white body, natural B or C, 5'4", womanly body, good pussy, all natural. Strong point has good pussy that gets wet naturally. Full body, GND face, ad photo based on her with usual PS. Seems to enjoy sex, no problem taking dick just start slow as usual. Good if you like all natural look with pure white body. No real vibe.

For looks, there is also [B]Harper[/B]. For service, [B]Maru[/B] and [B]Allie DD[/B]. For body, new [B]Daisy[/B]. [B]Erica[/B] is back soon, she is the most similar girl in body to [B]Allie[/B] aka Mina no that Allie is gone. Some other options like Jenny K and Avani K are on vacation.

[B]LA Options[/B]
[B]MH Lily[/B] (No3) - Good face and body, about 20, 5'5", C cup MMs, whitish skin with light tan, good ass, great figure with curves. Light bush, good pussy, enjoys foreplay, daty, and sex. Lots of tongue play. She has a cute vibe but also newish. She puts in the effort, but she is still learning skills especially bbbj. Sometimes playful, cooperative and a nice smile. Good in bed if you help out.

[B]Minji[/B] - Nice young body, good face, petite, dark skin, sharp tan line, late 20s, nice MMs. Some resemblance to Yeji's face but darker skin tone and wider nose, softer face line. Knows how to ride but passive otherwise. Bring your own service and take the lead. Little English. Hard to say if you will vibe, typical HYA as far as that.

[B]Baby Hami[/B] - HAM (Hot Asian Mom). High service and high looks, OG kgirl service. 5'6", D MMs, beautiful HAM face, high tier body that could pass as 20s from some angles, white skin with light tan line, good figure, some ass, takes dick well. Pleaser with good attitude, not much of a talker, good feedback, occasional hot eye contact. Good after service and massage. A looks A service, as good looking as some HYA due to her nice body.
[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pUXyCXUko9g&t=66s[/URL] Mother Lover

You can also search my mentions of Baby Arin, Prada, Kiwi, Viviana, and Akari J. Baby Arin is HYA but LA is starting to actually review HYA again so hopefully they eventually stop repeating her and Love Q so we have a turn someday. Baby Joo is back again. MH Lily is maybe an even nicer looking version of Baby Joo, but I welcome others to chime in.

[B]Future Latina Options[/B]
Someday, one of these two Latinas may show up suddenly at FirstAsians. FA Isabella is better looking than every single kgirl by my standards, even though I normally prefer Asians. She ranks just under model Go Mal-Sook in looks and is head to toe wonderful. Isabella also has good service for a Latina, she puts me at ease and is a pleaser. So when she is back, I might not even mention it. She only works for FirstAsians and BLUE (Blue Rocket), so not to be confused with the 15 other Isabellas in Socal.

[B]FA Isabella[/B] - [B]HYL[/B]. Maximum S-Tier looks. Very beautiful head to toe. Strictly GFE. European looks, late 20s. Skinny overall with natural Bs and a great ass Asians can only dream of. Even a BBL can't match Isabella's ass, it actually feels better than it looks so hold on tight. Limited English but always a sweet smile. Very good attitude and effort, enjoys it all.

[B]FA Claudia[/B] (Latina) [B]HYL[/B]. A-Tier looks, still learning bbbj but knows how to bang. 20s, C MMs, very nice face, very nice full round ass, good figure, hair dyed blonde. Ass jiggles plenty during doggy, it is beautiful. GFE only, young vibe. Some skills. Good visuals with bbbj, have her sit in front of the mirror for the best view. Lots of LFK. Face is very nice to look at, like Sarah Michelle Gellar from Buffy in the later seasons. Decent English, good attitude.

[B]SD Options[/B]
Eventually, I'm sure Kiko will be back SD. When she is, I might not have time for rosters so here is her description in advance:

[B]BLUE Kiko[/B] - Skinny, D MMs, tanned, amazing body like a stripper, TOAS. Good long bbbj, enjoy sex, good pussy. Quirky personality, decent English. Loved everything I did and I could go to town. Good looks and performance. OG kgirl service, Legendary kgirl. Kiko has a magic pussy, look for Kiko in this ass guide:
http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?33105-Hot-Young-Asian-Girls-in-OC&p=7344128&viewfull=1#post7344128 Biggest Asses in Town

[B]Sammy[/B] (Latina) - Fantastic S-Tier body. Body over face, C or D MMs, tits and ass. The very best ass, tight and well-toned body. Better body than most strippers. A bit short, maybe 5'3", tanned. Fun and playful. New ad photos now. Her face has improved a lot lately. No shower preview as with most Latinas. Strictly GFE only. Not much kissing, sex is good and she loves to bang. The hh rate is amazing value imo if you want a good bang, her ass is next level. Limited English. She is a sweet girl.

[URL]http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?35890-LA-J-Girls&p=7402051&viewfull=1#post7402051[/URL] "Looks Only" and "Face Only" Rankings
[URL]http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?37370-Asian-Rosters-Reviews-Guides&p=7389052&viewfull=1#post7389052[/URL] The Lizza Guide and other tips
[URL]http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?37254-Korean-Agency-and-Independent&p=7401753&viewfull=1#post7401753[/URL] Legends collection
[URL]http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?35890-LA-J-Girls&p=7402534&viewfull=1#post7402534[/URL] Final Legends

[B]The Lone HYA Hunters[/B]
I said goodbye forever to my first ATF long ago. I was lost and ended up making rosters as a way to cope. Perhaps to find my next true ATF. It was hard on my body interviewing one HYA candidate after another, but don't worry I'm alright.

[B]The Ultimate Kindness[/B]
My first ATF warned me long in advance that she would retire. That is when I started roaming the lands, curious if there was any other girl who could match her. In a way, there never was. But apart from how much I liked her, she did give me The Ultimate Kindness. It was the same true gift that many Nali and MH Cherry fans privately got. A sincere goodbye forever from her heart.

I never forgot. That is why I became a wanderer, and after meeting SC Emily I even experienced HYA Hunter Ascension in the process. My hands looked the same as before, but now I feel different for the rest of my life. And for the better - my eyes are always open during appointments. There are many such HYA Hunters now. The quality of girls has shifted as high service girls retire without being replaced. But some replacements do have high looks at least. There is no stopping that shift in my opinion.

[B]A Phoenix Reborn[/B]
One day, a maximum S-Tier kgirl will appear like a phoenix reborn. The process is HYA+ Ascension, the "looks only" version of Dragon Ascension. Service hunters will roll their eyes, but HYA hunters will hop in their cars when word spreads.

I have only met one jgirl who was worth a full 600 hr premium for her looks, though a second jgirl came close. A few kgirls may be worth 500 hr at most, which is why I recommended SBC Daisy at 450 hh for those on the fence to try out. But next year that may change as new girls show up.

[B]The Resistance[/B]
What is the Resistance? Well, anyone can join the Resistance instantly. They are those who rebel against ad inaccuracy and choose to rely on intel instead. Intel is the true lighthouse which prevents great explorers from getting shipwrecked. The other tool being to walk at the door aka "abandon ship". It is less pleasant, but a last resort.

[B]The Dark Minefield[/B]
I've known many looks first people who did a pilgrimage of recommended girls based on rosters. Since they carefully chose girls that were a good match, they had a lot of fun and it was just one success after another. But when that list ran out and they started seeing girls blind, it was much harder. It is a dark minefield. For that reason, please review. Don't worry about what others say, a variety of opinions is normal and helpful.

[B]Mapmakers Needed[/B]
The only solution is useful intel. I focus on rating face, body, boobs, height, skintone, hair, body versus face, looks versus service, and strengths vs dealbreakers. Then comment about ass or tattoos as necessary. These specs are a map to help new explorers navigate dangerous waters without getting shipwrecked. When they have good adventures and survive unscathed, they can update the maps.

Attached is actress SMG from Buffy, the closest version of her that matches Claudia. It was close enough I felt like I was banging SMG when looking at her at the right angle. Also attached are images showing the Dark Minefield mapped out by the Mapmakers. Intel plus match making leads to smooth sailing. Also attached is a meme for pre-MILFs with both good looks and good service.

This is a guide copy from the 10/7 LA update:
[URL]http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?26373-Korean-Agency-BB&p=7410111&viewfull=1#post7410111[/URL]

[B]Top 20% "Looks only" Rankings[/B]
S-Tier: MH Yua, FA Isabella, MH Nina, Yua Japan, FA Jira, Gingira Nanase, (Sakura Le Sserrafim), Laurent, Baby Sugar, Katie K, MH Mitsuki aka BB Asuka, SBC Daisy, SBC Freesia, Etsuko aka MH Cherry

A-Tier: Lizza aka Baby Dalli, Winter aka Seven, SC Emily, Kuzumi J, Hanni, MH Lily, CAKD Melody aka NYCSE Marin, Baby Peach, Nara, FA Claudia, CAKD Yua, Chanel2, Aoi J, Elsa aka MH Ella, Baby Ayaka, CAKD Drea, Nakamura, Mido, MH Juliya, CAKD Amy Viet, Purple K aka Tiara, Kiko aka Tomi aka Gigi, Yulie, 2025 Ichika Nagano, Leslie K, Minji, Allie, Baby Arin, MH Yan Jia (No2), CAKD Minami, Baby Hami

B-Tier: June, Baby Mint, Haven, Megan, Baby Blue, Baby Evian, Daniel, Swan, Elsa aka MH Ella, SDAG Cherry, Jenny K, Krissy, Apink, Monet, Yiseo, FA Sammy, Sia aka Prada, SDAG Mari aka Namiko aka AG Mari, Baby Naye

If you like kgirls instead of jgirls, just take every jgirl on my list and drop them 1/2 tier. There are clear exceptions like MH Cherry and Kuzumi J who had broad appeal.

My personal taste will boost girls who have these traits: Young, cute, beautiful, skinny, white skin, toned (muscle vs fat), petite, jgirl style, nice tits, nice ass, natural, good ass to hip ratio, beautiful pussy. In this order. This is beyond an average guy's taste, meaning it is an extra adjustment - most guys like young, but I prefer it more than the average guy. Many guys do not particularly value cute, many prefer sexy for example.

To use Baby Blue for an example, she is young, cute, white skin, jgirl style, natural, nice ass. She is not skinny or petite. Her giant ass gets a double bonus. So the result is high B-Tier, but I understand many other guys might rate her C if they don't care for half the things I liked. Way lower if they hate thick girls which is a very common dealbreaker. I don't mind thick, I simply favor very skinny.

Some girls like Jira and Gingira Nanase score very high because they check 11 out of 12 boxes (both girls are Team Seven body type). I have posted many photos of Nanase so it is clear enough how she looks (Jira is 90% similar). The nice thing is if you read either girl's description block, you can then adjust their tier by identifying which of the 11 out of 12 specs you don't care about and estimate her tier "for you". Examples of Team Seven:
[URL]https://www.instagram.com/seb1nnn/?hl=en[/URL] Team Seven S-Tier
[URL]http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?31240-Asian-PLEASER-discussion-forum-(please-post-reviews-in-the-review-forum)&p=7397581&viewfull=1#post7397581[/URL] Gingira Nanase Review
[URL]http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=784910&d=1758393079[/URL] Gingira Nanase photo

A few girls I've seen but don't appear in rankings either because it's been too long (ex. Ericka) or I need to repeat them more times before I rate them. I've noted that girls like Haven and Jenny have the Nali Effect where once they make sweet love to you, you find the more attractive than they were every visit. Since that is so ymmv and relies on repeats, "looks only" ignores that growth factor. So in my scale, "looks only" is a different thing than "attractiveness" which is much more ymmv.

I'll attach some face guides. First is Eunha (S-Tier), who has same face type as Katie K (S-Tier). Next is Yeji and Minji. Next is a singer and model who has both the same face and body type as Aoi J. Then Bomi who resembles Winter. Then Hanaraki Mai who has same face type as Misaki J. And Su Hyun and Baby Blue. Then Sasaki Saki (S-Tier) who has the same face type as CAKD Melody (A-Tier). Next image is Tzyuyu (S-Tier), who has the same face type as Baby Hami (A-Tier).

It's true that many of the model photos like Eunha are slightly hotter than their matching girl (Katie K), but they're usually on the same general level. Not a big difference. Of course, Eunha is dyed hair while Katie K is black. As a rule, I won't use a photo model if the gap is more than 1 tier. Naturally, all of this depends on make up and style that day, or if they had a good sleep.

[B]Baby Mury[/B] (Get9, CGLA) - [B]HYA+[/B]. Baby Mury is cute and beautiful head to toe, early 20s, 5'4", C tits, normal skinny, petite and well proportioned, body has some curves, with a young cute thin face. Good looking head to toe. Low S-Tier looks. She has a very high tier pussy, good skills for a HYA, has a relaxing attitude, and knows her job. Her pussy even looks great too. Vocal feedback is natural and subdued which I prefer. She has a very sweet and unique vibe. Some English, no problem understanding basic conversation but needs time to respond.

It's up to taste, but among kgirls I rank Baby Mury in-between Katie K and Daisy in looks. Her strong point is a young and cute face. Guys who prefer a more mature or sexy face would probably rate Katie K or Daisy higher. Her body type is normal skinny and petite, which I also prefer. She wore a very nice fitting bikini to greet me. For guys on a budget who want a taste, the best value is 400 hh. I could get everything done for one-shot within hh. Baby Mury scores very high in looks and pussy, and for a HYA she has great service.

[B]Three levels of HYA[/B]
Since Baby Mury looks under 25 and is low S-Tier, she is HYA+ to me. This only has special meaning to guys who want extra young and high tier youthful looks. To normal HYA Hunters, it's no different than regular HYA which is mainly a code word for "not a MILF or even close". HYA+ are 15-20 years away from MILF town. Whereas regular HYA are 10-15 years away, not much different.

The strict cutoff for regular HYA is under 30 and A-Tier (ex: Kuzumi J, Lizza, Baby Peach), with a more lenient borderline HYA being under 34 and B-Tier (ex: Jenny K, Krissy, Tiana). To me, the lenient HYA definition is always acceptable but since opinions always vary this makes the strict HYA cutoff an easier rec to HYA hunters. Plenty of HYA Hunters like Jenny or Krissy, it's just less likely than the main HYA list.

[B]Where is MILF Town[/B]
BTW if you do want MILF town where the HAM (Hot Asian Moms) are, see [B]Baby Hami[/B] or [B]MH No1 Remi[/B]. For true mother lovers, Baby Hami is on full repeat for me for "something different" to refresh my service needs, after one too many HYA gave me weak service. And to be clear, these are MILFs who are simply better looking than many young girls. Hami is exceptionally good looking for her age and was probably S-Tier when younger. Her service gives her a high overall score.

[B]Shelby[/B] FA (FirstAsians aka HX TokyoGirls) - Tall at about 5'7", huge DD tits, late 30s. She has a great womanly body, has tits and ass and really gets into it. Experienced, good thorough bbbj technique edge of bed. Bbbj skilled, fantastic P2P, tight pussy. Really good English, personality is as much native as Korean. Blonde hair when I saw her. She is a good GFE choice.
[URL]https://www.humaniplex.com/profiles/TokyoGirls[/URL]

Shelby has a next level pussy and even with GFE is better than many girls bb. She is DTF.

[B]Baby Rose[/B] is another HYA option. [B]Dallas[/B] and [B]Shelby[/B] fans should know they are back to OC 10/14. They are listed as VIP for FA which simply means the rate is 30 min for 240, 45 min for 280, 60 min for 320. It is one of the cheapest base korg rates anywhere. I assume Dallas is 50 bb upcharge, which would be 290 total. FA also hosts latina [B]Star[/B] who is new. FA is the goto korg for Latinas in OC. XO will sometimes host them too. [B]Tifa[/B] is back in town 10/14 if you want a hot MILF.

Scroll down to see more descriptions on girls like [B]CAKD Amy[/B], [B]CAKD Aoi J[/B], [B]Get9 Baby Naye[/B], [B]Get9 Scarlett[/B], and more.

Attached are ads for Baby Mury, Baby Rose, Shelby, and Dallas.

At FA, [B]FA Tomi[/B] is in OC, with Star (Latina) listed last day Friday and Dallas back on Monday. Shelby is also back. Schedules can change a lot but are useful hints. FA's strength is they have by far the cheapest base rates. Tomi and Dallas are tagged VIP, which means 30 min for 240, 45 min for 280, 60 min for 320. It's 50 for bb, which makes it 290 bb for hh. For other girls, it's 20 less (220/260/300).

At CAKD, [B]Lauryn[/B]'s last day is listed as 10/20. [B]Amy[/B] (Viet) is still at CAKD, [B]Harper[/B] on vacation. Lauryn doesn't tour very long and feels like a natural civilian hookup. Keep in mind she is GFE only and a higher rate. [B]Aoi J[/B] is a favorite for me since I like jgirls. People generally like her body and sweet vibe as her main attraction.

[B]FA Tomi[/B] - High looks and high service, ATF. Tomi is skinny, C or D MMs, about 5'3", tanned, and has an amazing well-toned body like a stripper. Petite TOAS body type (TOAS = tits on a stick). She has very good bbbj skills and can go long, and she really enjoys sex, good pussy. Good long bbbj, enjoy sex, good pussy. Her pussy is S-Tier, one of the few available. Quirky personality and easy to laugh, her English is very good. OG kgirl service, Legendary kgirl. If you vibe with her, it is next level fun. She is currently the best value girl imo.

[URL]https://www.humaniplex.com/profiles/TokyoGirls[/URL] FA (FirstAsians)

Tomi has often said she is not a morning person, so I try to skip 10am and try 11am or after on her suggestion. She has always been in a good mood with me, but I've heard others say it is ymmv. I tend to go with the flow so maybe that helps. To me, Tomi is the best value bb kgirl in Socal. [B]Value = (looks + service) / price[/B]. Allie in LA and Jenny K (on vacation) being 2nd and 3rd:

[QUOTE=Download X;7413429][B]Budget Value[/B]
Many guys are on a budget, so I will list three top budget / value girls in order..With Nali gone, the list is [B]FA Tomi[/B] (OC), [B]Allie[/B] (LA), and [B]Jenny K[/B] (when she comes back). That's it. There are other girls I like a bit more, but they are a lot more expensive.[/QUOTE]

[URL]http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?31130-Korean-Agency-BB&p=7413429#post7413429[/URL] Budget Value BB Guide

[B]Baby Peach[/B] - [B]HYA[/B]. High looks and service. Cute face like a doll, baby face, 20s, about 5'4", C or D MMs, wide hips and ass, white skin, beautiful black hair with curls, smells good, good looking overall. Professional kgirl vibe, good skills and service. Lots of tongue play. I really like her face but there are varied opinions. Some say she has a plastic look with upgrades. Normally I prefer all natural, but she checks a lot of other boxes for me so I like her looks overall. Ad photos give some idea of her body type. Important: Book Peach hh only. She has high performance, but like Evian it may be hard to vibe after.

Baby Peach is the only girl left from my August guide which lists out girls who had both looks and service. In order, the list was MH Cherry, Baby Peach, Allie, and Jenny K:

[URL]http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?31240-Asian-PLEASER-discussion-forum-(please-post-reviews-in-the-review-forum)&p=7361901&viewfull=1#post7361901[/URL] High Looks High Service Guide

[B]Baby Mury[/B] (Get9, CGLA) - [B]HYA+[/B]. Baby Mury is cute and beautiful head to toe, early 20s, 5'4", C tits, normal skinny, petite and well proportioned, body has some curves, with a young cute thin face. Good looking head to toe. Low S-Tier looks. She has a very high tier pussy, good skills for a HYA, has a relaxing attitude, and knows her job. Her pussy even looks great too. Vocal feedback is natural and subdued which I prefer. She has a very sweet and unique vibe. Some English, no problem understanding basic conversation but needs time to respond. A princess.

Baby Mury has a young vibe, much like Lizza, Purple K, and even Baby Arin. Some guys are "young vibe hunters" and may like her for that. While others may be turned off by it. I am in the "young vibe hunter" camp so if that is not your thing you'll probably like her less than me.

Vibe and style of service are two common service dealbreakers for HYA Hunters. It divides HYA Hunters into distinct camps. For example, Lizza and Purple K have a "normal girl" vibe which some guys love and other guys hate. Whereas Baby Arin and Baby Peach are pros who are safer recs with broader appeal. That said, Baby Mury has pretty good skills for HYA and performs well in bed. These are the Skill and Performance aspects to Service. With Vibe and service Style being two others. We could see with Kuzumi's reviews the perfect example of everything coming down to Vibe. Guys mostly agreed on the rest with face being her strong point. To sum up, Vibe is how a girl talks and behaves with you apart from the main performance.

[B]Baby Naye[/B] - Tiny spinner at 5'1", C or D cup MMs, white skin, thin waist, small hands and feet, good pussy, enjoys sex. Very cute. Good in many positions, good attitude. Long dark brown hair with curls. Cute vibe, very nice smile, I agree she is like a maid cafe girl. Same inner-eye highlights as Laurent (hope more girls try it). Service style is submissive. Very DTF. She has improved since last year in looks and skill, has a high tier pussy.

It's nice to see Baby Naye has some fans. She is a cute and tiny spinner with a sweet smile. She is submissive style of service which I like, but it's an important warning since some service guys consider that a dealbreaker. Her looks and style have upgraded a lot since previous tours.

[B]Amy (CAKD)[/B] - Beautiful exotic face, hourglass body, tits and ass, C or D MMs, tanned, freestyle service rather than kgirl routine, knows how to have fun. Good suction on bbbj, active and aggressive, sex positive. Has a balance of looks and service but different vibe than other girls. Being respectful goes a long way to having fun. GFE but ymmv. Very firm massage. Very unique ymmv vibe. Important: active and aggressive as mentioned, not for guys who want gentle and passive. She is slimmer now. S-Tier face.

Amy's looks have broad appeal, and with her slimmer look that has only improved.

[B]CAKD Lauryn[/B] - Exotic mixed beauty, wonderful smile, submissive, still learning. 5'6", skinny with some hips, B or C cup MMs, feminine, long hair with some curls, about 30, pear shaped body, some English. Good attitude, nice personality, seems new. Looks over service, seems to enjoy all we did. She is quite beautiful with a hint of mature looks, same as Amy. She has model level looks and style. She had the #1 best smile until MH Yua showed up. It is still a top tier smile. Excellent choice of music, more girls should choose well. "Her smile is what all men wish to see."

Lauryn has an exotic mixed look with a hint of mature. A very classy girl and unique specs. Her type is rare so that could make her a higher priority for some guys.

[B]CAKD Aoi J[/B] - Skinny, C cup tits natural, maybe 5'4", great body, good face, late 20s, long straight black hair. Body is her strong point. Good ass for an Asian, has a trimmed bush, pussy is good. Bbbj is good for HYA, good attitude and sweet voice. Elegant face, good figure. I like her all natural look and prefer skinny. Body is her strong point. Sweet demeaner after sex, very cute and expressive while vibing. Sometimes playfully teases you. Superior vibe to most jgirls. Would repeat. She is 350 hr, 100 bb.

She outlasted a lot of other jgirls, so I guess she has fans. She is special and is also a rare spec combo which makes her ATF for me.

[URL]https://www.humaniplex.com/profiles/IndyAzn[/URL] CAKD
[URL]https://www.humaniplex.com/profiles/KCupids[/URL] CAKD

All of the above girls are top 20% looks to me (mid B-Tier or higher). There were other girls like Scarlett who I had a good time with and even had a nice face, but I'm trying to only list the top 20% looking girls this time to play it safe. About age, FA Tomi is a MILF but the best looking MILF I know, I would choose her over many HYA. She keeps her body in good shape. Amy and Lauryn have a hint of mature so we can either say pre-MILF or borderline HYA / pre-MILF. They are beautiful so it makes no difference to me and I'd also choose them over many HYA. But it's worth mentioning since some guys are young themselves or have specific tastes and age cutoffs. The goal of reviews is to increase every guys' chance of picking a good match.

I also tried to rank the above girls in order of pussy, but actually all of them are very good currently. FA Tomi, Baby Naye, and Baby Mury being especially good. Aoi is very tight, which is going to depend on the guy. Amy in particular has no trouble taking bigger guys.

[B]Attached Photos[/B]
I'm going to attach photos in order of how close they get to the girl. First photo of a tanned skinny girl on her knees looks super close to Aoi J's body. It is 95% close. Second photo is a new Baby Peach ad which gives a good idea of her. 90% close. Next is a model who looks a lot like Baby Mury in face and body type. Of course, it is not her and if you see this photo used for a different girl's ad it's not that girl either. People reay too much into ad photos when they are often copied off Instagram. Next is Baby Mury's ad and it is close to her if she were to do full make up. It's 85% close. Next is an ad from FA Tomi which gives the right idea - it is accurate except Tomi looks better than the ad photo imo. Last is an alteranate old ad for Baby Naye, which doesn't quite look like her but gives the right idea of young cute spinner. Naye also looks better than this alternate ad imo.

I've seen some girls like Aoi J several times and face is going to vary by level of make up and how much sleep they got. It's always face variation, the body doesn't change much between visits. To use Krissy as an example, I've seen make up, sleep, and sweat vary her appearance on repeats. To where I saw her with C-Tier, B-Tier, and A-Tier face (B being the most common). If I only saw either girl just one time, obviously all I can report is what I saw. It's one reason I have not yet ranked some HYA in my full rankings, because they seemed to have an off day and it showed. So I need to repeat them again. Or in another case, I haven't seen her in a very long time. Many girls like Amy or Naye changed by 1 whole tier in a year.

Most kgirls do NOT look as good or even near their ad photos btw. It's just that if I list girls near A looks, they'll tend to be at ad photo level. D-Tier girls will use A-Tier ads of course. People really still don't get it so I'll repeat it once again: [B]D-Tier girls will use A-Tier ads of course![/B] Be warned.

[QUOTE=DownloadX;7417978]At FA, [B]FA Tomi[/B] is in OC, with Star (Latina) listed last day Friday[/QUOTE]Has anyone found any intel on Star yet? Some were positing she may be on Sammy level of looks, or perhaps even Isabella (based on photos, which we all know may or may not be super accurate). Any word on her looks (or service) tier as of yet? I'm sure guys in LA and SD (where she may be headed next) would like to know.

I'm going to leave a copy of my [B]Baby Winter[/B] PLEASER here. I heard [B]Baby Rose[/B] has just under a week left so I'll attach her ad photo.

[B]Baby Winter Get9[/B]
P: Ads based on her with usual PS, ad of her leaning against rail is closest. Face is PS'd up, but body is slightly better than ad.

L: She is young, decent GND face, petite body with round C MM tits. A good spinner candidate. Her waist is skinny and her body is in great shape, it's her strong point. She's about 20s, body over face.

E: A little English, not much talk, but understands body language and basic English if you use simple words and speak clearly.

A: No typical kgirl vibe but good in bed. Takes some time to warm up but once you're into it she really loves it. She particularly loves the main act, few girls seemed as delighted with DATY and PIV. She seemed very genuine about that.

S: She has good bbbj skills and went at it a long time with varied technique. Very good for HYA but not MILF level, bbbj is better than 90% of younger girls and one of the highlights. She really liked DATY and warmed up well. And she seems to really love dick. I follow a girl's reactions to figure out how she likes it. We could do everything well together and she loved it. This is her other highlight, she is good in bed.

E: 320/ hhr.

Are: Yes, she is good value. She does good long bbbj and loves everything we do in bed. I don't care that she can't communicate a lot or is low vibe, once I got to know her we got along very well.

[URL]https://get9irl.com/BabyWinter[/URL] Baby Winter

It should be automatically clear to everyone, but Baby Winter has no relation to CAKD Winter. Names get re-used all the time.

[B]PLEASER Reviews[/B]
PLEASERs are a great review format because it reminds people to talk about each point. It's more natural for beginners to read, and a good way for beginners to review. If you follow the PLEASER format, it's almost foolproof and no one can complain. Even Veterans like the straightforward nature of the format, and it prevents writer's block.

[URL]http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?30696-Asian-PLEASER-Reviews-only[/URL] PLEASERs go in this thread - [B]no replies allowed[/B]
[URL]http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?31240-Asian-PLEASER-discussion-forum-(please-post-reviews-in-the-review-forum)[/URL] Replies go in this thread - hit reply and copy it

[B]Description Blocks[/B]
The reason I write description blocks is it's more intel dense for listing out many girls. It increases accuracy overall and is more suitable for veterans to convey information to other veterans. Concise descriptions let people focus on and pick over the most critical specs and pros and cons. It cuts out any ymmv narrative. Just one or two words says a lot. For example, I'm always deliberate when choosing between these 5 values for skinny vs thick: very skinny, skinny, normal, thick, very thick. They each mean something different and I feel this scale avoids the most confusion. Baby Eve and Yiseo are examples of very skinny. Skinny/thick is a spec people agree on mentally, but communicating it into the right words is the critical part. Worst case, we can use photo guides.

Looks is a more ymmv spec where you are going to get a bell curve and normal disagreement. It is important to split looks by face, body, and boobs since they often have no relation to each other. I used to have people say they didn't like a girl, and when I asked "Wasn't her face beautiful?" they said yes but she had no boobs. I like boobs, but they are so low priority compared to face for me. So this is why we have to split up the ratings into parts. Face is the most ymmv part.

Of course, service is the most ymmv by far. But if you split service into skills, performance in bed, vibe, and attitude, you get more agreement. Evian is an example where people who didn't like her service actually agreed she had skills and was good in bed. Their opinion on skill and performance was basically the same as the people who liked her - when people who like and dislike and agree on something, it's a pretty sure thing. You just couldn't tell this info from their review though, because if something sucks the review will focus on that. Here is the most critical distinction. Without doubt, that guy did not like the girl and shouldn't feel otherwise just because he agrees she had good skill and performance. But when it comes to [I]helping other people decide on a girl[/I], that is useful info we don't want to lose.

[B]Young Girls[/B]
Attached are the closest ad photos for Baby Winter and Baby Rose. Baby Winter's appeal is her young spinner body, bbbj skill, and love of dick. Baby Rose's appeal is her beautiful face, body, pussy, ass. I'd book Baby Rose hh if you are going to go, you have to bring the service. Baby Rose is a high looks HYA and she looks a bit better than her ad especially her body. People who liked [B]Baby Mury[/B] would probably like her and vice versa. People who didn't maybe wouldn't.

There are many high looks HYA where it is just as important to scare away service hunters than to invite HYA hunters. I get it, we all want to explore. So some service hunters are naturally curious and want to "try one out". But in that case, better to try a high service HYA like [B]Baby Arin[/B] or [B]Baby Peach[/B]. Maybe they can be won over. Or if the service hunter is still disappointed, we know it's hopeless for him and he needs to stick with service queens. It is too risky for service hunters to randomly try a medium or lower service HYA.

Be warned of trying HYA. Several long-time service hunters tried out HYA and had a profound change. They looked down at their hands and they were the same, but the felt different forever. A few of them did become HYA Hunters and experienced HYA Hunter Ascension. It is very expensive.

[B]Baby Rose[/B] and next [B]Baby Mury[/B] are two very good looking HYA options in OC imo, but for rich guys only. If you do a CTRL+F search for her on this page, it contains all a HYA Hunter needs to know. Again, for rich HYA Hunters only. For jgirl lovers, [B]Saki J[/B] is finally in OC too. [B]Yaya J aka Ria J[/B] is in LA.
[URL]http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?33078-Hot-Young-Asian-Girls&p=7421707&viewfull=1#post7421707[/URL] Yaya aka Ria
[URL]http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?33078-Hot-Young-Asian-Girls&p=7422256&viewfull=1#post7422256[/URL] Other LA HYA options

Other S-Tier girls will come in future weeks, though not necessarily OC first. I've already reviewed them.

[B]What is Value?[/B]
Value means getting more for your dollar. There is a crude formula I use to evaluate value. The rules are:

1) Rank a girl in looks and service as usual. For example among ATFs, Jenny K is B-A (B looks A service), Peach is A-A, and peak Katie K is S-A. Everyone will score girls differently, these are just my ratings.

2) Next, convert those scores into points. S=5, A=4, B=3, C=2, D=1.

3) Value = (Looks + Service) / Cost. Multiply by 1000 and round to get an integer score. 10 = average kgirl, 15 = occasional repeat for me, 20+ = priority repeat. I call this the [B]Value Rating[/B]. To make a consistent comparison, I main use hh rates with bb since that is the best way to cheaply see girls for 'just the main event'. I'm normally one-shot.

Using the three examples from step 1, I get:
Jenny K = B-A / 300 hh = (3+4)/300 = 23 points
Peach = A-A / 420 hh = (4+4)/420 = 19 points
Katie K = S-A / 350+150 hh = (5+4)/500 = 18 points

This is pretty similar to my gut feelings. Peach and Katie are beautiful and I look forward to seeing them, but I feel like I could see Jenny K more often and cheap. For regular rotation, I see girls like Jenny K. If I want an occasional luxury, I see Peach and Katie K.

Peach and Katie scored close to each other, and I felt it's true that Peach at 420 was similar value to peak Katie K at 500. But let's suppose Katie got tired and her service dropped a point or two, then she'd score 16 or 14 points in value and be more a backup option. She still scores much higher than the average kgirl who is 10 points (ex. D-C at 300 hh), which is why I repeated Katie. So this formula reflects how I naturally evaluate girls anyways.

While it's true that the very best cheap girls are the best value, it's not true that other cheap girls are good value. [B]A girl you like is always going to be better value than a dud[/B], even if she costs more. A dud is roughly 10 points and under to me.

What does value mean for us in practice? I noticed that every ATF is great for the first visit, but I only repeated certain ATFs all the time while rarely the others. The main reason was value. You could say that "first visit" I am strongly "looks first" but for repeats, I suddenly care about service and price and this combined concept of value. For guys on a very limited budget, I suspect they may even feel that way about first visits too. I repeated Peach and Katie K since they were ATFs, but it was harder to justify [I]frequent repeats[/I] when there were good alternatives.

[B]Average Kgirl Value Rating[/B]
Here is how a dud looks to me in value. I removed the names since it doesn't matter - we all encounter them and there is an endless supply of mid girls. The first girl didn't have looks and was new. A nice girl but didn't have much to offer:
Dud = D-D / 300 hh = (1+1)/300 = 7 points
Dud = C-C / 300+100 hh = (2+2)/400 = 10 points

7 points falls short of the 10 point benchmark. I was in an adventurous mood so I didn't mind as much, but it made me less likely to toftt for a while. Sometimes I want a "sure thing", so my choice is either a high scoring ATF I already know or to try a well-reviewed HYA from reviewers I recognized. The C-C dud was a HYA to other guys and I believe them, she just wasn't my type and she wasn't in a great mood either when I saw her. I can see her appeal and other guys probably got a lot more than 10 points out of her since they reported good attitude. But the 100 upcharge with okay service/attitude made it barely worth seeing her for me. This is why I aim for B-Tier if I'm willing to see C-Tier, or I aim for A-Tier if I'm willing to see B-Tier.

I don't deny that premium girls are overpriced from the POV of normal guys and normal budgets. They are for rich guys. But I also always say that duds are even more overpriced than premium girls, and this Value Rating is what I mean. Below D-Tier, I would not see them even for free. Not even if they paid me.

It's worth pointing out that most guys enjoy the novelty of a new girl, so many guys are happy enough to see a C or B tier girl once even if they won't repeat them. Some of these girls go on the backup list, especially if they have something special about them. You could say that new girls get a 25% to 50% scoring bonus. This bonus by default lasts only the first visit. But if you have a special connection with a girl, the bonus actually lasts (until you lose that connection). It also exists for ATFs you haven't seen in a long time.

With Nali gone, I listed the current top value imo to be FA Tomi (31 points), Allie (27 points), and Jenny K (23 points). I'm sure every guy has a different list, but this is one way to calculate it for yourself. Some girls show up in many guys' lists. Once I confirmed this formula matched what I already knew, I could then go back and test out many other girls I hadn't yet evaluated:
Premium Kgirl M = S-A / 400+200 hh = (5+4)/600 = 15 points
MH Cherry = S-S / 260+100 hh = (5+5)/360 = 27 points
Aoi J = A-A / 300+100 hh = (4+4)/400 = 20 points

[B]The Mount Everest Problem[/B]
Seeing premium kgirls the first time was satisfying for me and like climbing a tall mountain. But after seeing a hot premium HYA with good looks but not much service, many of us felt "That's it?". It's like reaching the top of Mount Everest and after a while you have nothing more to do and you just gotta leave. It is a "just one time" experience sometimes.

That's where value comes in for decision making. Value matters more on repeats for many guys. I didn't mind mind paying extra for a hot girl just one time. It just makes it hard to repeat her if she feels overpriced. Premium kgirls sometimes feel like ~15 points in value like the S-A example. Teh exception is if you manage a special connection. This is the 25% to 50% bonus that persists (until you lose that connection), turning 15 points into maybe 23 points (+50% bonus). It's probably why some guys scored Kuzumi well below 15 points while others scored her way higher than 20, depending on the connection and vibe. The scoring is very ymmv with HYA for those reasons, and it's also why you can suddenly stop liking a HYA one day. It turns out, the looks and service alone were not the real reason you repeated her so much.

MH Cherry otoh was high looks high service but priced like Nali. Her score lines up with how busy she got. Many people repeated her twice or three times in a week. Maybe I saw her five..

[B]GFE vs bb girls[/B]
The Value formula lets us compare very different girls with each other. But it's still hard to compare GFE girls with bb girls. So I will just say there are some GFE girls who have good pussy so they are as good as bb girls to me. FA Sammy (Latina) for example loves to bang:
FA Sammy = B-B / (3+3)/240 = 25 points GFE

For GFE guys, of course the list shifts around a lot since they don't have to pay upcharge. And for rich guys, the Value list doesn't mean much - they can just combine the score and get a simpler 0-10 rating. We can call that [B]Overall Rating[/B]. For me though, the Value list does predict who I want to repeat regularly. Currently, there are only 4 girls who regularly tour that score 20 or higher:
FA Tomi 31 points
Allie aka Mina 27 points
Jenny K 23 points
Aoi J 20 points

I regret not seeing my retired ATF more when she was around. She scored 27, before even factoring our connection. At the time, I did not realize how special she was because I was 80% only seeing her anyways. I had no idea what a unicorn she was. Once I turned into a HYA Hunter, I understood in hindsight that she was even better than I thought, because after seeing a lot of girls I never found a girl with her service until MH Cherry.

[B]Value Rating Scale[/B]
20+ points: priority repeat
15-19 points: periodic repeat (mostly "luxury" girls)
11-14 points: one and done but satisfied due to "new girl" bonus
7-10: average kgirl (D-C or C-D girl)
New girl: 25% to 50% bonus points, extended if you really connect with her

[B]Recent Price Hikes[/B]
It is worth pointing out that before the very rapid price increases of the last 2 years, the average kgirl scored much higher. I used to consider 50% of kgirls to be good value. Now I consider only the top 25% of kgirls to be, due to excessive price hikes. To be clear, the last 2 years of price increases were higher than the previous 10 combined.

This was not inflation, just a bigger profit margin and to attract new girls. In fact, Thai orgs like [B]Khaleesi1999[/B] and [B]FirstAsians[/B] are two agencies that did not rapidly increase rates as exceptions. You can still see girls for 220-240 hh. Even corgs still charge 240 hh for starter girls. LA corgs in particular have better looking girls, both average and the best. So there is something for everyone depending on which agency you use.
[URL]https://www.humaniplex.com/profiles/Khaleesi1999[/URL] Thai girls
[URL]https://www.humaniplex.com/profiles/FirstAsians[/URL] Kgirls

[B]Special Terminology[/B]
What is Agehao?
[URL]https://www.instagram.com/reel/DN_vdS5E3eU/[/URL] Agehao
[URL]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ahegao[/URL]

What is very skinny?
[URL]https://www.instagram.com/_jung_u/reel/DNtICTxXuWq/[/URL] JHJ
[URL]https://www.instagram.com/_jung_u/reel/DPT1Os1Dx1b/[/URL] JHJ

[B]How to Prepare HYA Updated[/B]
Sometimes, we only fit 1/3 of the way in a girl. This is a general thing even a 5" guy can run into. But every time with a girl I was 1/3 of the way in first visit, on repeats I could go all the way in because she was much more relaxed. Sometimes a much smaller guy can't fit a girl but even though I'm much bigger I could. This is a ymmv factor about arousal. I cover this in the guide "How to Prepare HYA".

First, I prepare the girl by making her feel safe and comfortable. A few words, some good eye contact, gentle touching and watching her reaction. The first few minutes of introduction are key. In bed, I work on the foreplay. Same as a man, a woman gets aroused and it starts extra blood flow. The blood flow causes the vaginal walls to swell and expand..and doubles the depth on average. Every woman is aroused differently..

[B]A typical vagina starts at 2 to 4 inches depth, growing to 5 to 8 inches after arousal[/B]. Even men cannot get arousal when stressed or scared, so it pays to prepare the woman. You are the main beneficiary..if necessary let the girl show you her desired pace to start. Then take over when things look good. When changing position to doggy, start slow again the first several strokes. Once I learned and improved this, I got along with girls in bed.

It bears repeating that I could fit girls that much smaller guys couldn't, but it takes a lot of work and patience. I didn't know how to do any of this when I started out, but 10 years later I started getting much better at it. The hardest barrier is psychological for the girl - if she doesn't feel confident or is stressed / worried, that is hard to overcome first visit. So there are a few girls I could not fit first visit but could easily fit 2nd visit because of the confidence / comfort change.

[B]Special Body Types[/B]
I will be working on body type guides for a while. Three special body types I like and are "hard to find" are: Team Seven, Perfect White TOAS Model, and Perfect Normal Model. Some definitions:

[B]Team Seven[/B] - Very skinny and petite and short, but mainting perfect proportions. I.e. model proportions rather than a stocky midget. Best examples: Seb1nnn, Gingira Nanase, peak Bona, Tiana. Rare.
[URL]https://www.instagram.com/p/DP8WzCWElW5[/URL] Team Seven Body

[B]Perfect White TOAS Model[/B] - Skinny, full MM tits, very skinny waist, white body, good ass, and "not short". Best examples: MH Nina, MH Cherry. Uncommon.
[URL]https://www.instagram.com/reel/DNUiIe1yf3R[/URL] PWTM Body

[B]Perfect Normal Model[/B] - Perfectly proportioned head to toe, not skinny or thick, not short, every part very good (boobs, ass, arms, legs, hands, feet), the ideal body and model-like. Does not have to be pure white. Best examples: Go Mal-Sook, Anzu. Very rare.

Far more girls are instead "almost PWM" body with somethign missing. For example [B]Laurent[/B] and [B]CAKD Winter[/B] who had "all natural" kgirl bodies with light curves. They are close to Perfect Normal model but without big boobs or ass. But they were still all natural model bodies, which I like. Kahotan below is an example where she mainly just needs bigger boobs and ass:
[URL]https://www.instagram.com/reel/DPyRCqjk7hX/[/URL] Almost PNM body

I do like big boobs, but is a low priority compared to all natural which has a slightly higher priority. So I'd rather have natural Bs like Leslie K and CAKD Winter over MM Cs for example. MM Ds I'll accept as long as they are good MMs. But natural Ds like [B]Allie aka Mina[/B] or CAKD Rosie I do like the most, they're just rare. Allie is in PV currently.

First two images attached are examples of Team Seven, Seb1nnn herself. Next two are Go Mal-Sook a perfectly proportioned PNM girl. Then Anzu, an even better example. MH Yua is kind of in-between the two. Then another example of Team Seven. Then a model who has Baby Peach's body type.

There will be more girls with Team Seven and Perfect Normal Model bodies in the future but don't know the exact timeline. I've already reviewed them.

[QUOTE=DownloadX;7423340][B]Baby Rose[/B] and next [B]Baby Mury[/B] are two very good looking HYA options in OC imo, but for rich guys only. If you do a CTRL+F search for her on this page, it contains all a HYA Hunter needs to know. Again, for rich HYA Hunters only. For jgirl lovers, [B]Saki J[/B] is finally in OC too. [B]Yaya J aka Ria J[/B] is in LA.
[URL]http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?33078-Hot-Young-Asian-Girls&p=7421707&viewfull=1#post7421707[/URL] Yaya aka Ria
[URL]http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?33078-Hot-Young-Asian-Girls&p=7422256&viewfull=1#post7422256[/URL] Other LA HYA options

Other S-Tier girls will come in future weeks, though not necessarily OC first. I've already reviewed them.

[B]What is Value?[/B]
Value means getting more for your dollar. There is a crude formula I use to evaluate value. The rules are:

1) Rank a girl in looks and service as usual. For example among ATFs, Jenny K is B-A (B looks A service), Peach is A-A, and peak Katie K is S-A. Everyone will score girls differently, these are just my ratings.

2) Next, convert those scores into points. S=5, A=4, B=3, C=2, D=1.

3) Value = (Looks + Service) / Cost. Multiply by 1000 and round to get an integer score. 10 = average kgirl, 15 = occasional repeat for me, 20+ = priority repeat. I call this the [B]Value Rating[/B]. To make a consistent comparison, I main use hh rates with bb since that is the best way to cheaply see girls for 'just the main event'. I'm normally one-shot.

Using the three examples from step 1, I get:
Jenny K = B-A / 300 hh = (3+4)/300 = 23 points
Peach = A-A / 420 hh = (4+4)/420 = 19 points
Katie K = S-A / 350+150 hh = (5+4)/500 = 18 points

This is pretty similar to my gut feelings. Peach and Katie are beautiful and I look forward to seeing them, but I feel like I could see Jenny K more often and cheap. For regular rotation, I see girls like Jenny K. If I want an occasional luxury, I see Peach and Katie K.

Peach and Katie scored close to each other, and I felt it's true that Peach at 420 was similar value to peak Katie K at 500. But let's suppose Katie got tired and her service dropped a point or two, then she'd score 16 or 14 points in value and be more a backup option. She still scores much higher than the average kgirl who is 10 points (ex. D-C at 300 hh), which is why I repeated Katie. So this formula reflects how I naturally evaluate girls anyways.

While it's true that the very best cheap girls are the best value, it's not true that other cheap girls are good value. [B]A girl you like is always going to be better value than a dud[/B], even if she costs more. A dud is roughly 10 points and under to me.

What does value mean for us in practice? I noticed that every ATF is great for the first visit, but I only repeated certain ATFs all the time while rarely the others. The main reason was value. You could say that "first visit" I am strongly "looks first" but for repeats, I suddenly care about service and price and this combined concept of value. For guys on a very limited budget, I suspect they may even feel that way about first visits too. I repeated Peach and Katie K since they were ATFs, but it was harder to justify [I]frequent repeats[/I] when there were good alternatives.

[B]Average Kgirl Value Rating[/B]
Here is how a dud looks to me in value. I removed the names since it doesn't matter - we all encounter them and there is an endless supply of mid girls. The first girl didn't have looks and was new. A nice girl but didn't have much to offer:
Dud = D-D / 300 hh = (1+1)/300 = 7 points
Dud = C-C / 300+100 hh = (2+2)/400 = 10 points

7 points falls short of the 10 point benchmark. I was in an adventurous mood so I didn't mind as much, but it made me less likely to toftt for a while. Sometimes I want a "sure thing", so my choice is either a high scoring ATF I already know or to try a well-reviewed HYA from reviewers I recognized. The C-C dud was a HYA to other guys and I believe them, she just wasn't my type and she wasn't in a great mood either when I saw her. I can see her appeal and other guys probably got a lot more than 10 points out of her since they reported good attitude. But the 100 upcharge with okay service/attitude made it barely worth seeing her for me. This is why I aim for B-Tier if I'm willing to see C-Tier, or I aim for A-Tier if I'm willing to see B-Tier.

I don't deny that premium girls are overpriced from the POV of normal guys and normal budgets. They are for rich guys. But I also always say that duds are even more overpriced than premium girls, and this Value Rating is what I mean. Below D-Tier, I would not see them even for free. Not even if they paid me.

It's worth pointing out that most guys enjoy the novelty of a new girl, so many guys are happy enough to see a C or B tier girl once even if they won't repeat them. Some of these girls go on the backup list, especially if they have something special about them. You could say that new girls get a 25% to 50% scoring bonus. This bonus by default lasts only the first visit. But if you have a special connection with a girl, the bonus actually lasts (until you lose that connection). It also exists for ATFs you haven't seen in a long time.

With Nali gone, I listed the current top value imo to be FA Tomi (31 points), Allie (27 points), and Jenny K (23 points). I'm sure every guy has a different list, but this is one way to calculate it for yourself. Some girls show up in many guys' lists. Once I confirmed this formula matched what I already knew, I could then go back and test out many other girls I hadn't yet evaluated:
Premium Kgirl M = S-A / 400+200 hh = (5+4)/600 = 15 points
MH Cherry = S-S / 260+100 hh = (5+5)/360 = 27 points
Aoi J = A-A / 300+100 hh = (4+4)/400 = 20 points

[B]The Mount Everest Problem[/B]
Seeing premium kgirls the first time was satisfying for me and like climbing a tall mountain. But after seeing a hot premium HYA with good looks but not much service, many of us felt "That's it?". It's like reaching the top of Mount Everest and after a while you have nothing more to do and you just gotta leave. It is a "just one time" experience sometimes.

That's where value comes in for decision making. Value matters more on repeats for many guys. I didn't mind mind paying extra for a hot girl just one time. It just makes it hard to repeat her if she feels overpriced. Premium kgirls sometimes feel like ~15 points in value like the S-A example. Teh exception is if you manage a special connection. This is the 25% to 50% bonus that persists (until you lose that connection), turning 15 points into maybe 23 points (+50% bonus). It's probably why some guys scored Kuzumi well below 15 points while others scored her way higher than 20, depending on the connection and vibe. The scoring is very ymmv with HYA for those reasons, and it's also why you can suddenly stop liking a HYA one day. It turns out, the looks and service alone were not the real reason you repeated her so much.

MH Cherry otoh was high looks high service but priced like Nali. Her score lines up with how busy she got. Many people repeated her twice or three times in a week. Maybe I saw her five..

[B]GFE vs bb girls[/B]
The Value formula lets us compare very different girls with each other. But it's still hard to compare GFE girls with bb girls. So I will just say there are some GFE girls who have good pussy so they are as good as bb girls to me. FA Sammy (Latina) for example loves to bang:
FA Sammy = B-B / (3+3)/240 = 25 points GFE

For GFE guys, of course the list shifts around a lot since they don't have to pay upcharge. And for rich guys, the Value list doesn't mean much - they can just combine the score and get a simpler 0-10 rating. We can call that [B]Overall Rating[/B]. For me though, the Value list does predict who I want to repeat regularly. Currently, there are only 4 girls who regularly tour that score 20 or higher:
FA Tomi 31 points
Allie aka Mina 27 points
Jenny K 23 points
Aoi J 20 points

I regret not seeing my retired ATF more when she was around. She scored 27, before even factoring our connection. At the time, I did not realize how special she was because I was 80% only seeing her anyways. I had no idea what a unicorn she was. Once I turned into a HYA Hunter, I understood in hindsight that she was even better than I thought, because after seeing a lot of girls I never found a girl with her service until MH Cherry.

[B]Value Rating Scale[/B]
20+ points: priority repeat
15-19 points: periodic repeat (mostly "luxury" girls)
11-14 points: one and done but satisfied due to "new girl" bonus
7-10: average kgirl (D-C or C-D girl)
New girl: 25% to 50% bonus points, extended if you really connect with her

[B]Recent Price Hikes[/B]
It is worth pointing out that before the very rapid price increases of the last 2 years, the average kgirl scored much higher. I used to consider 50% of kgirls to be good value. Now I consider only the top 25% of kgirls to be, due to excessive price hikes. To be clear, the last 2 years of price increases were higher than the previous 10 combined.

This was not inflation, just a bigger profit margin and to attract new girls. In fact, Thai orgs like [B]Khaleesi1999[/B] and [B]FirstAsians[/B] are two agencies that did not rapidly increase rates as exceptions. You can still see girls for 220-240 hh. Even corgs still charge 240 hh for starter girls. LA corgs in particular have better looking girls, both average and the best. So there is something for everyone depending on which agency you use.
[URL]https://www.humaniplex.com/profiles/Khaleesi1999[/URL] Thai girls
[URL]https://www.humaniplex.com/profiles/FirstAsians[/URL] Kgirls

[B]Special Terminology[/B]
What is Agehao?
[URL]https://www.instagram.com/reel/DN_vdS5E3eU/[/URL] Agehao
[URL]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ahegao[/URL]

What is very skinny?
[URL]https://www.instagram.com/_jung_u/reel/DNtICTxXuWq/[/URL] JHJ
[URL]https://www.instagram.com/_jung_u/reel/DPT1Os1Dx1b/[/URL] JHJ

[B]How to Prepare HYA Updated[/B]
Sometimes, we only fit 1/3 of the way in a girl. This is a general thing even a 5" guy can run into. But every time with a girl I was 1/3 of the way in first visit, on repeats I could go all the way in because she was much more relaxed. Sometimes a much smaller guy can't fit a girl but even though I'm much bigger I could. This is a ymmv factor about arousal. I cover this in the guide "How to Prepare HYA".

First, I prepare the girl by making her feel safe and comfortable. A few words, some good eye contact, gentle touching and watching her reaction. The first few minutes of introduction are key. In bed, I work on the foreplay. Same as a man, a woman gets aroused and it starts extra blood flow. The blood flow causes the vaginal walls to swell and expand..and doubles the depth on average. Every woman is aroused differently..

[B]A typical vagina starts at 2 to 4 inches depth, growing to 5 to 8 inches after arousal[/B]. Even men cannot get arousal when stressed or scared, so it pays to prepare the woman. You are the main beneficiary..if necessary let the girl show you her desired pace to start. Then take over when things look good. When changing position to doggy, start slow again the first several strokes. Once I learned and improved this, I got along with girls in bed.

It bears repeating that I could fit girls that much smaller guys couldn't, but it takes a lot of work and patience. I didn't know how to do any of this when I started out, but 10 years later I started getting much better at it. The hardest barrier is psychological for the girl - if she doesn't feel confident or is stressed / worried, that is hard to overcome first visit. So there are a few girls I could not fit first visit but could easily fit 2nd visit because of the confidence / comfort change.

[B]Special Body Types[/B]
I will be working on body type guides for a while. Three special body types I like and are "hard to find" are: Team Seven, Perfect White TOAS Model, and Perfect Normal Model. Some definitions:

[B]Team Seven[/B] - Very skinny and petite and short, but mainting perfect proportions. I.e. model proportions rather than a stocky midget. Best examples: Seb1nnn, Gingira Nanase, peak Bona, Tiana. Rare.
[URL]https://www.instagram.com/p/DP8WzCWElW5[/URL] Team Seven Body

[B]Perfect White TOAS Model[/B] - Skinny, full MM tits, very skinny waist, white body, good ass, and "not short". Best examples: MH Nina, MH Cherry. Uncommon.
[URL]https://www.instagram.com/reel/DNUiIe1yf3R[/URL] PWTM Body

[B]Perfect Normal Model[/B] - Perfectly proportioned head to toe, not skinny or thick, not short, every part very good (boobs, ass, arms, legs, hands, feet), the ideal body and model-like. Does not have to be pure white. Best examples: Go Mal-Sook, Anzu. Very rare.

Far more girls are instead "almost PWM" body with somethign missing. For example [B]Laurent[/B] and [B]CAKD Winter[/B] who had "all natural" kgirl bodies with light curves. They are close to Perfect Normal model but without big boobs or ass. But they were still all natural model bodies, which I like. Kahotan below is an example where she mainly just needs bigger boobs and ass:
[URL]https://www.instagram.com/reel/DPyRCqjk7hX/[/URL] Almost PNM body

I do like big boobs, but is a low priority compared to all natural which has a slightly higher priority. So I'd rather have natural Bs like Leslie K and CAKD Winter over MM Cs for example. MM Ds I'll accept as long as they are good MMs. But natural Ds like [B]Allie aka Mina[/B] or CAKD Rosie I do like the most, they're just rare. Allie is in PV currently.

First two images attached are examples of Team Seven, Seb1nnn herself. Next two are Go Mal-Sook a perfectly proportioned PNM girl. Then Anzu, an even better example. MH Yua is kind of in-between the two. Then another example of Team Seven. Then a model who has Baby Peach's body type.

There will be more girls with Team Seven and Perfect Normal Model bodies in the future but don't know the exact timeline. I've already reviewed them.[/QUOTE]Nice write up. I wonder if there is any room for some "post-nut clarity" that becomes obvious during a session for the average monger, or any other potential outliers to include in calculation. For me, comes down to if I want a service or looks type of session. Long or short. Some of these girls are all hype, which is very subjective, and that is certainly why having your own set of personal value rating system can be of use. Some mongers book the HHR simply to get the deed done and move on, while those who prefer some royal service opt for the HR and can still get gypped. I would argue you don't necessarily always deserve to leave satisfied, but really more relaxed than when you came in. Many ways to skin a cat!

[QUOTE=LabiaFedora;7423377]Nice write up. I wonder if there is any room for some "post-nut clarity" that becomes obvious during a session for the average monger, or any other potential outliers to include in calculation. For me, comes down to if I want a service or looks type of session. Long or short. Some of these girls are all hype, which is very subjective, and that is certainly why having your own set of personal value rating system can be of use. Some mongers book the HHR simply to get the deed done and move on, while those who prefer some royal service opt for the HR and can still get gypped. I would argue you don't necessarily always deserve to leave satisfied, but really more relaxed than when you came in. Many ways to skin a cat![/QUOTE]

Like you, full HR is up to my mood. Sometimes it lets me vibe while other times I wish I didn't with HYA. Sometimes the girl tries her best but 30-45 minutes is all she's got. At least the second half is heavily discounted, and with younger girls I see it as "just a chance" to try. It won't always work out. If a girl is making the effort or still learning, that's good enough for me but I'll recommend hh for others. As you say, you can go a full hr and feel it's not worth it, it is hard to get a full hour of royal treatment with newer girls or low vibe girls.

I don't usually aim to be an early appointment, but sometimes I picked a girl as backup and find out I'm one of her very first. One girl was so new she didn't get in the shower with me and only undressed after [I]closing the bathroom door[/I]. She was embarrassed for me to see her naked. So I calmed her down and just had her lay naked with me as we looked at each other a while and worked on her real slow. Things got better and later I asked for some LFK since it was just a peck on the lips so far. She said - and I believe her - that she has never tongue kissed a man before. I'll skip the rest to say that I did my best to make her comfortable and it was a very nice civvie style hookup. I gave her some words of encouragement and said that if she's going to stick around, she might as well put in full effort and try to get richer so to speak. Later in her tour, I read multiple reviews of next level service. I knew at least some of these reviews were real, but it was a huge jump. So I tried her again and saw how much she improved, she had such confidence. It had been less than one week. That is how ymmv service can be, it can go up and it can go down in a matter of days.

It's true that some girls are going to be hype - usually another guy vibed well with her and got exactly what he wanted but it's not going to help you or I if we don't connect too. I don't mind that, I can see the appeal even if a girl isn't my type and move on. If I had a fair chance and she has some appeal, that's good enough for me. In the long run, I'll have many wins with that approach. Other times, I'm one of the few that like a girl. Just how it is.

One person remarked on post-nut clarity, admitting the girls were at least young and very hot. He just wondered why he paid so much. I told him you could pay 600 to be dropped off at the top of Mount Everest and you'll go "That's it?"

The idea of reaching the top of the mountain used to seem completely impossible after all.

[QUOTE=DownloadX;7423384]Like you, full HR is up to my mood. Sometimes it lets me vibe while other times I wish I didn't with HYA. Sometimes the girl tries her best but 30-45 minutes is all she's got. At least the second half is heavily discounted, and with younger girls I see it as "just a chance" to try. It won't always work out. If a girl is making the effort or still learning, that's good enough for me but I'll recommend hh for others. As you say, you can go a full hr and feel it's not worth it, it is hard to get a full hour of royal treatment with newer girls or low vibe girls.

I don't usually aim to be an early appointment, but sometimes I picked a girl as backup and find out I'm one of her very first. One girl was so new she didn't get in the shower with me and only undressed after [I]closing the bathroom door[/I]. She was embarrassed for me to see her naked. So I calmed her down and just had her lay naked with me as we looked at each other a while and worked on her real slow. Things got better and later I asked for some LFK since it was just a peck on the lips so far. She said - and I believe her - that she has never tongue kissed a man before. I'll skip the rest to say that I did my best to make her comfortable and it was a very nice civvie style hookup. I gave her some words of encouragement and said that if she's going to stick around, she might as well put in full effort and try to get richer so to speak. Later in her tour, I read multiple reviews of next level service. I knew at least some of these reviews were real, but it was a huge jump. So I tried her again and saw how much she improved, she had such confidence. It had been less than one week. That is how ymmv service can be, it can go up and it can go down in a matter of days.

It's true that some girls are going to be hype - usually another guy vibed well with her and got exactly what he wanted but it's not going to help you or I if we don't connect too. I don't mind that, I can see the appeal even if a girl isn't my type and move on. If I had a fair chance and she has some appeal, that's good enough for me. In the long run, I'll have many wins with that approach. Other times, I'm one of the few that like a girl. Just how it is.

One person remarked on post-nut clarity, admitting the girls were at least young and very hot. He just wondered why he paid so much. I told him you could pay 600 to be dropped off at the top of Mount Everest and you'll go "That's it?"

The idea of reaching the top of the mountain used to seem completely impossible after all.[/QUOTE]Yes interesting. The whole "YMMV" concept can be a double-edged sword. Many mongers are not as experienced or as patient as you to quickly and subtly identify a provider's inexperience nonetheless guide them afterwards with advice. What fittingly appeared as lacking skill and experience to you by the provider can make a naive monger feel as if she were not attracted to him or was trying to minimize effort or whatever other information we come across on threads like these. Those things matter. These trivial details become quite noticeable in the industry especially in recent years with changes we see, whether it be quality of provider, booker, or clientele. Sometimes its vital and very much necessary to call a spade a spade.

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Want to provide some feedback on the review. Saki is tanned with club girl vibe and tattoos on both upper arms. True spinner, with A cup and flat ass. I would say she is early to mid-30's. Accommodating and is DTF with good services, including light rimming. Only con is that she does use a lot of lube, and she is not super tight. At least for me, it took a few minutes to wear out the lube to feel her box. Definitely recommend if you prefer service over look.

[QUOTE=HornyToad75;7424134][URL]http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?30696-Asian-PLEASER-Reviews-only&p=7422922&viewfull=1#post7422922[/URL]

Want to provide some feedback on the review. Saki is tanned with club girl vibe and tattoos on both upper arms. True spinner, with A cup and flat ass. I would say she is early to mid-30's. Accommodating and is DTF with good services, including light rimming. Only con is that she does use a lot of lube, and she is not super tight. At least for me, it took a few minutes to wear out the lube to feel her box. Definitely recommend if you prefer service over look.[/QUOTE]Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. Some say Aoi is HYA. I beg to differ. Maybe CYA at best. Kuzumi was HYA, but maybe her personality soured her face for me. Post-nut I would downgrade her looks. Riri CYA. Cherry CYA. Yaya is CYA. Bin pretty. Love Q between cute and pretty. Saki, at least for me, I'm mesmerized by her eyes and smile. She’s between pretty and hot for me IMHO.