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[QUOTE=Stoner]Thats one of the most useless posts I've seen on these board, SF. No need for a pissing match about who's been through the court system more, or an episode of COPS? Come on!

Lots of great advice and thoughts have been said. Not always in the best way, but who gives a shit.

One thing I am curious about. Would anyone be willing to post about their LEO encounter and actually dealing with the legal system and shit? [/QUOTE]Sure, I'll post mine. Was in August 2004, in a city out west. I pulled up to a SW in front of a motel. I think she asked if I was looking for a date, or she said she was working. I did not commit to anything, I just asked if she wanted a ride, I think. So she got in. That took about 5 to 10 seconds. In the car she asked what I wanted, and said she could give a blow job in the car. I said I prefferred motel rooms, and asked if she had a room. She said yes, back at that motel. It was pretty sleazy. I asked if she's go up to the downtown area and stay all nite at a better place. She said sure, and was thinking about price. She wondered aloud what all nite would cost. So during this time, I'm driving around a few blocks, and suddenly there's a blue light behind me, blue light on the dash on an unmarked car. She said we were fine, we were not doing anything. And we exchanged first names real quick, and that we knew each other. Police had me get out, and she stayed there. As it turns out the motel was under surveillance. I got asked what we agreed to, and for how much. I said we agreed to nothing, and did not talk about money. I got pressed to tell more, but I didn't. I said I just picked her up and we were going to the casino to gamble for a bit. Meanwhile, she was telling the truth. Yes, she was a SW. The police wanted info on the motel. They were looking for a racketeering sort of thing. Came up with nothing. After 20 minutes, my interviewer became cordial, friendly. And let us go. I asked if I was going to get a citation or written warning, and they said no, they would just record that they made contact with me. They told her they did not care if we went for a "date" or not. But that was enough thrills for one nite. I drove her back to the motel, dropped her off, and thanked my lucky stars and went home.

[QUOTE=Stoner]One thing I am curious about...would anyone be willing to post about their LEO encounter and actually dealing with the legal system and shit?[/QUOTE]

Most posts in the Boston forum are completely useless. Cruiser D is a simple example of an someone who thinks he's not a criminal and the police are all Nazi-like. We all know the game and we are all players. Some play smart, some don't.

As for posting information on LE encounters and dealing with the misdemeanor criminal violations, well, I know that stuff INSIDE OUT. I'm willing to share some information, time permitting, but typically through the PM system which is where I share 99.99% of my info related to this forum's topics. Legal and otherwise.

BM, I don't think you'll be chuckling all that much when you end up on the registried sex offender list if you are convicted.

SF, my past and current postings speak for themselves. Anyone who has any real life experience knows that they jive with reality. Considering how easily offended you got I would guess you are some how related to LE, but obviously not directly on the line - unless you live in Mayberry. You seem to have a problem being able to clearly read my postings. I would be more then happy to explain them to you but I really don't think we have anything else to say, do we?

Do I think I'm not a criminal - well...I can say I don't think there should be any vice crimes and leave it at that.

As far as cops being Nazis. I have no idea where you got that from. Cops in the NE are just guys who did some poor career planning, took a test and landed a good job. I however have a problem with the MSP, you know the guys you blow by you doing 85-90mph on the highway and then pull you over for doing 85-90mph the next day. And I have a big problem with their wacko unless psuedo military training for recruits. Cops are just like any other city or state employee; generally useless, sometimes helpful, sometimes annoying.

[QUOTE=Boston Monger]You can argue courts. You can argue cops. But basically it comes down to Karma. That's right gentlemen. It's what the cop feels like at the moment. He could care less about a "conviction". He knows by merely picking you up, he's given you a major hassle, if not life changing experience. Who needs a conviction when will you already be convicted by your family? Face it, the court fine is merely an embarresment. Hey, if I was single, I would just laugh.

Now down to brass tacks. Say nothing, be polite and coopertive. Sounds contradictory? Well it should. Because a million thoughts will be going through your head but the ultimate motive is to drive away. Do what it takes SHORT OF ADMITTING ANYTHING. Even breaking down and crying is OK.

That is advice if you are caught. But with a little common sense you shouldn't get caught. You can sense when things aren't right. And don't believe that decoys are all fugly. Two years ago I saw decoy in Lawrence that would make your head spin.

[url]http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=197248&postcount=295[/url]

Basically good luck. You know the risks. You know the consequences.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=SF Boarder]Most posts in the Boston forum are completely useless. [/QUOTE]

I agree but there are good reasons for this.

One is that there are hardly any SW's working out there and only a fraction of these are worth picking up or reporting on.

Another is that we all know for a fact that members of the Boston Police Department monitor the Boston thread.

Therefore posting information on an SW encounter is the exact same as telling a vice officer face to face or announcing at the watch briefing a detailed description of who we saw where, when we saw them and what acts they're willing to perform for how much.

So posting specific information either leads to a crackdown whenever SW activity increases, which I've seen happen right after someone posts about the increase even though it's been going on for weeks or it incriminates you in criminal activity which can be traced back to you unless you're using a throwaway e-mail address and a proxy IP.

[QUOTE=Phat Bastard]So posting specific information either leads to a crackdown whenever SW activity increases, which I've seen happen right after someone posts about the increase even though it's been going on for weeks or it incriminates you in criminal activity which can be traced back to you unless you're using a throwaway e-mail address and a proxy IP.[/QUOTE]

Nail on the head my man. Sharing general information isn't too dangerous. Being very specific is just plain silly. However, I have a hard time believeing that LE learns something from this board that they don't already know. Do you think a patrolman in certain area on grave shift doesn't know that there was a certain SW at a certain intersection?

Posting phone numbers and names of SWs is what I don't understand. Let's just share publically the best times and locations and whether or not a specific SW is an ROB.

I have less than 100 public posts, but I've traded well over 1000 PMs since I started using this board. I've covered Washington DC, Baltimore, San Francisco, Las Vegas, Orange County, CA, San Diego, TJ, and now Boston/Lowell. SFRedbook.com is great for San Francisco information. Well, it was a few years ago. Nothing but trash posts now.

As for throw away e-mail addresses and proxy surfing ... doesn't everyone do that? There are plenty of Aisian-based free proxy servers to choose from.

Lastly, if anyone wants to learn the truths around the legal system, enroll in law school instead of watching 'Cops'.

[QUOTE=Cruiser D]BM, I don't think you'll be chuckling all that much when you end up on the registried sex offender list if you are convicted.

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That never dawned on me.

I'm sure the ADA will forget to mention that to you when he offers a 'great' plea bargin. ;)

[QUOTE=Boston Monger]That never dawned on me.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=SF Boarder]Posting phone numbers and names of SWs is what I don't understand. Let's just share publically the best times and locations and whether or not a specific SW is an ROB.
As for throw away e-mail addresses and proxy surfing ... doesn't everyone do that? There are plenty of Aisian-based free proxy servers to choose from.
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I'm the only person that I know (aside from cyber buddies) that uses proxies and throwaways. Everyone I mention it to wonders what the hell I'm up to that I need to be so secretive about;)


What's a ROB?

[QUOTE=Phat Bastard]I'm the only person that I know (aside from cyber buddies) that uses proxies and throwaways. Everyone I mention it to wonders what the hell I'm up to that I need to be so secretive about;)


What's a ROB?[/QUOTE]

ROB = Rip-Off Biotch.

It's always wise to use proxies when you surf these sorts of site, or any sites for that matter. It's never a bad thing to make a web site to think you're surfing in from Kazakhstan.

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From Boston.com;


MILFORD -- Five men were released without bail in Milford District Court yesterday on a single charge apiece of sex for hire after police arrested them in a sting operation.

The men allegedly consulted craigslist, the popular online site, to find sex for a fee. Instead, they allegedly encountered a female state trooper posing as a prostitute.

One of the men, a Newton Highway Division employee, could face disciplinary charges because he allegedly used an official city car for the assignation.

Milford police Lieutenant James Falvey, head of detectives, said he had ordered the sting in an effort to keep prostitutes out of town. Police conducted a similar sting last March and made four arrests.

''They're advertising, and they're willing to travel," Falvey said. ''We don't want them to travel to Milford."

Jim Buckmaster, craigslist's CEO, said in an e-mail message yesterday that he could not comment on an ongoing police investigation, but that ''craigslist strictly prohibits all illegal activities on the site, including sex-for-hire."

Falvey said that after noticing a section of craigslist labeled ''Erotic" apparently included women advertising sex for hire in Milford, he ordered his detectives to post an ad. The ad gave a physical description of a female state trooper who acted as a decoy, and an e-mail address that police monitored.

''We started getting swamped with e-mails," Falvey said.

On Wednesday, he said, several men contacted the trooper by cellphone and found her at a prearranged location near the intersection of Beaver Street and Medway Road, an area of strip malls, fast-food joints, and a couple of hotels.

The arrests occurred after the men allegedly specified the kind of sex they sought and the fees, ranging from $75 to $125, according to court documents.

The Newton employee was placed on paid administrative leave pending an internal investigation, said a city spokesman.

All five defendants, who live in Methuen, Franklin, Waltham, and Leicester, pleaded not guilty.
© Copyright 2006 Globe Newspaper Company.

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Can anybody tell me where the sw are in boston? maybe tell me a few possible locations. Thanks if anyone can help.

Been trying to work the Chelsea area, lately. I've never had any luck in the KA area, and today was no different. A couple of LE in the area, though, so I just kept driving.

HS area was dead. Saw a couple of HSWs there, yesterday. One was older, heavier, maybe a 2-3. The other was about a 6-7, and I was willing to give her a go, but another monger swooped in for the kill just ahead of me.

This is the fifth or sixth sting or arrest I've heard about relating to Craig's List. It was bound to happen. Providers are being far too blatant with their postings. Months ago I arrived at Quint's, the Asian place in Brighton, only to see two detectives questioning the guy who ran the place standing in the doorway of the house. I drove by the house, kept going and never went back. A few weeks later they where busted and shut down. Quint's was running dozens of adds a day flaunting there location and telling guys to just email for directions and come on over. LaBella was doing the same thing and now they are running almost underground in order to avoid publicity.

The cops don't care who's lives they ruin, they know that busting and parading johns will scare a lot more guys than busting and parading a prostitute. We can watch some hooker getting booked on Fox 25 and say to ourselves "She was stupid, she got caught, there are hundreds more where she came from". When we read about guys getting busted in a sting it's hard not to say "this could happen to me".

We can be as carefull as possible and still be in the wrong place at the wrong time because some CL discount escort ran 30 adds a day flaunting the fact that she was in downtown Whatevertown and pissed off the local police chief.

I've found some great deals on CL but now I'm starting to wonder if it's worth the risk.

I found this last night as I was cruising MSN .com, anyone else see it?
[url]http://msnbc.msn.com/id/10879309/[/url]

If you notice, the "stings" are happening in suburban, kinda "upscale" areas where the police are bored beyond belief. Arlington, Milford, etc. aren't exactly Lowell, Somerville, etc. I stated it before, but one more time for those just joining, do not hook up on CL in nice area. Period. I will thow out Lowell as an area where I would feel comfortable.