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[QUOTE=Trash Talk]Been a long time lurker and finally registered.
At Executive you get a service. A massage and good company with a happy ending. It is only rite to tip. If you get a massage at a day spa you tip. If you go to a restaurant you tip. It is expected. These girls can't tell you you must tip or they risk thier jobs. They can't tell you much of how they really feel or they can be fired.
You truly are cheep if you don't tip.
I have been going to that place for years and see various girls. I am thankful for that place and the service provided. I respect the girls and show it. I don't judge these girls for what they do or how they look. WE are the ones going there paying them for "attention" in everyway. They are there to make a living. We are the ones who should be looking in the mirror if we want to judge anyone.
We pick them. They do not pick us. I am sure "from what a few girls have told me" if they could deny half of us they would.[/QUOTE]
I have no difficulty with TTs philosophy...........go for it.
I disagree that tip is expected by the employer - if so, they shouldn't tell you over the phone - "no tipping is necessary." No day spa or restaraunt would tell a customer that over the phone.
I give 20% tips at restaraunts. Why? I've worked those jobs - and the pay is min. wage plus tips. Not so at the ERS. The 1 hour gives the girl a good percentage of what she earns for the house.
If I want to spend more than .8 or .85 for a HJ, I won't do it. Hell - I'll spend as little as possible to have a great time. I don't intend to see them again. At an AMP - I pay .4 or .6 at the door, and $ for everything. Anything more - forget it. It aint cheap - it's downright expensive! Go anywhere else in the world and you'll see what I mean.
Not complaining here - I see TTs point - but it isn't about compassion - it's about economizing. No tip has never equaled bad service.
ci-traveler
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[QUOTE=Call Me Booger]I've only been to CLV and Exec in the daytime. From what I understand from asking the ladies, Exec has the same crew on all day, but CLV has a night time crew. Has anybody been to either at night? Any talent worth making a special evening trip?
Also, I do have an interesting sidenote for Senior members and regular bevidere posters.[/QUOTE]I believe the Exec is only open to 6pm weekdays and 8pm Fri & Sat. that's' why they only have one crew. The last time I was there I had a good session with a brunet I'd see again, I think her name was Jennifer.
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Exec.
I think they're open to 8pm during the week. BTW, if you show up at 7:59pm, they'll hate you, and you'll hate yourself for not getting there eariler.
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Clv
Hello All,
I appreciate the recent reports on Belvidere. Anyone know if Sophia is still at CLV? Have not been able to get out there since last August. Hope she hasn't forgotten me.
Thanks,
Mannamik
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[QUOTE=Jimbo33]I haven't been to exec in awhile. Does anyone know if Candace
is still there?[/QUOTE]
I'll take a stab and say she's gone. I was there this last weekend.
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Tr
[QUOTE=KingDd]I think they're open to 8pm during the week. BTW, if you show up at 7:59pm, they'll hate you, and you'll hate yourself for not getting there eariler.[/QUOTE]
I forgot if it's 8 during the week and 9 on weekends, but it's definitely 9 on weekends.
Oh, and I saw Sara. I think someone said not to go and see her, but I didn't realize it until I actually made my pick. Some new faces, but are all old, except for one (I'll get to that last). I'll give a 4 overall.
Sara is skinny, not as skinny as Nicole, but about the same. Good massage, actually has a natural instinct. Reverse massage is awful, too many restrictions (as in, nothing available). Yes, I didn't tip. I'll be glad to NOT choose her next time I go there.
Saw Kara again. Man, how did I forget her? Yes, she's big, about right in line with the rest of them. However, the big rack more than makes up for that. Normally accessible on the reverse unlike others (Sara, Jenny's sister). Kara would be a 9 if she lost like 30 lbs (she's got plenty to spare in the rack). I'll giver her a 7 (maybe an 8) for the breast thingy she does when you're on your stomach. They call this a body slide in Australia. Man, do I miss Australia. She doesn't quite have the technique down yet.
Two new girls. I want to say Jackie. Ugh, how did I forget. She's like a platinum blonde, but old. I said no thanks.
Other girl is Jessica. I ran out of time to see her. She's Sabrina's sister (left a while ago). I was talking to her, and i have no idea why I didn't wait for her. Young, way bigger rack than her sister, and taller. I can only hope that restrictions are normal.
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Jessica
Jessica - Many restrictions. She's cute, but looks better with clothes on. No tip.
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Clv-tr
I took it upon myself to do some scouting in Belvidere today. I went to CLV and had the choice of three Ginger, Pepper, and Sophie. The rest were busy.
I selected Sophie. Sophie has dark hair, short, nice curves with a little extra padding, and about 38 y/o. Sophie offers a light massage that feels good, but if you have some knots in your back she's not your gal. Sophie offers a very good finish, really knows how to drag things out in a very good way. I would repeat.
Door Fee:$95
Tip:$30
Also, I did find out that shift change happens at 6:30, and that most daytime girls do not work nights. So does anyone have anything to report about a night time visit?
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Nikki
I recently saw Nikki. She is younger, nice chest and large dark nipples, tanned all over. YMMV, but I have a new favorite at Exec. This was as close to a gfe as I've had at this place. By that, I don't mean there were any extras beyond what is usually provided. But it was the kind of massage that I received when I was dating girls I genuinely liked back in college. Fairly soft/light technique, but totally unrushed and accompanied by enjoyable conversation.
A little junk around the trunk, but she is recently back after having another child.
Finish was outstanding. She is not only coachable, but listens well and implements the game plan. Showed a willingness to audible at the last minute when conditions change. Not a clockwatcher.
Pleasant, fun, and very relaxing.
Ken
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Finally had a chance to visit ERS today. Wow it was cool... This was my second trip to Belvidere, the first one was in search of ERS. On that trip I had no luck, but found CLV. CLV was a bit of a disapointment for me, the lady whose name I forgot was a bit older, late forties, and I had to tip in advance if I wanted to see anything.
So on this trip I was determined to find ERS. What a delight. I have never seen so many pretty girls working in any AMP, or anyplace else for that matter. Now when I was there they were busy, and had remodeling going on, so I had to wait a bit. I was given a choice between three ladies when the time came, I chose Jenny. very pretty blonde, early thirties I would say, and nicely shaped all around. Any one who has been there knows the routine, so I won't add much more then say by the reports it was typical. I had a pleasant message, followed by giving her one, and then fun. No extras were asked for or offered, but the time I had was very relaxing.
so to rate my experience.
Jenny
Looks 8
Body 8 on top, 7 on bottom
Attitude 10
Technique 8+
HR finish 10
I can't wait to go back
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ERS vs CLV
I have been to the ERS about 10 times. At ERS I always feel like I am rtreated like a King. I've been to CLV twice during night shift. On a few occasions, I have called CLV during the daytime to get information on who they have on staff. Everytime, without exception, the rag that answers the phone at CLV is a major b***h. No attempt to be friendly, helpful or courteous. My simple one or two questions are responded to with a heavy sigh and noticeable annoyance at the fact that I am calling. Everytime this happens I hang up the phone and ask myself, "what did I do to deserve that" ?!? Today I called and I asked for a certain girl and was told she was not working would be back tomorrow and then she hangs up without saying goodbye, thank you, kiss my ass or anything. She just hung up.
I wonder if the ladies who do the real work there understand that this idiot they have on the phones is cutting into their incomes. After today, I don't see myself calling there or stopping in. I am willing to bet a dollar to a doughnut that others feel the same way. No wonder they had to raise their rates. Probably are having difficulty making the rent. It's a downward spiral. Go to CLV, be treated like a felen and pay more. Alternatively, go to ERS be treated liek a king for a nice price.
Anyone else?
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Ers
[QUOTE=Turkey John]I have been to the ERS about 10 times. At ERS I always feel like I am rtreated like a King. I've been to CLV twice during night shift. On a few occasions, I have called CLV during the daytime to get information on who they have on staff. Everytime, without exception, the rag that answers the phone at CLV is a major b***h. No attempt to be friendly, helpful or courteous. My simple one or two questions are responded to with a heavy sigh and noticeable annoyance at the fact that I am calling. Everytime this happens I hang up the phone and ask myself, "what did I do to deserve that" ?!? Today I called and I asked for a certain girl and was told she was not working would be back tomorrow and then she hangs up without saying goodbye, thank you, kiss my ass or anything. She just hung up.
I wonder if the ladies who do the real work there understand that this idiot they have on the phones is cutting into their incomes. After today, I don't see myself calling there or stopping in. I am willing to bet a dollar to a doughnut that others feel the same way. No wonder they had to raise their rates. Probably are having difficulty making the rent. It's a downward spiral. Go to CLV, be treated like a felen and pay more. Alternatively, go to ERS be treated liek a king for a nice price.
Anyone else?[/QUOTE]
The only problem I have is that they need to open the back door. I was told
that there is a back door but it enters into the girls dressing room. They should find another room to dress in so that people can feel a little more
secure about entering there. Or we could pass through the dressing room
and get a good preview of 'What's to come' Just my humble opinion :)
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Ers/clv
I have been going to ERS and CLV since late 80's. Also used to go to GT in Rockford (I remember when they were open in afternoon). Overall, ERS is better, because you know what you are getting. CLV can be hit or miss. I have had some of my best sessions at CLV; and I have had nothing happen at CLV as well. One time about six years ago, saw a lady at CLV one Friday night, and it was an outstanding session. Called a few weeks later and asked if she was there and was told by the talked about phone lady that she was. When I got there (drove from Chicago, made a quick stop at OTB in Rockford to play a few exactas) she wasn't. There was a hot blonde, so I was not totally disappointed, but then was told after massage and flip that "things changed last week, we cannot do that." Same thing happened to an friend of mine around same time frame.
I have not had a chance to go to either in last year or so. May take a trip out there around June time frame.
BTW, is GT still open in Rockford?
Good luck and be careful, it's an election year.
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CLV-Charmer
The charming greeter (taker of our hard earned dough) at CLV is a real crunt. She is always grumpy. I've talked to a couple of the girls about this. Basically from what I understand there are two women that typically work the door---the owner and this old crunt. The owner can actually be quite a character once you get her chatting a little bit. But the crunt is always crabby, if it was my business I would fire her ass, because it obviously costs them customers.
A few of the girls tell me that they can't stand her attitude, and they know it effects their business. The crunt always tells them they are wearing the wrong type of clothes and that they won't make any money.
Peter-I believe GT is still open but only at night. I've been there one time a long time ago, and the providers were just way to old for me.
Jimbo-I agree, I would like Exec a lot more if we had access to the back door. I promise I would avert my eyes in the dressing room if everybody else will.
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Of course...
..they were way too old, most of them are the same ones I used to see back then! However, if the lady that used to have long brown hair and a sexy voice was still there (wish I could remember her name) I would still go. She gave a good session, was entertaining, and actually made it fun. If you could have a GFE in a Rock/Bel club, she was the closest thing.
Of course, I was late 20's back then and she was late 30's, maybe pushing 40, so I was into that hotness thing.
Good luck back "home."
Stuck in Norfolk (for about one more year) unfortunately,
Pete