Philly Sugar

Yeah when I made a fake female profile, I saw my competition, which is a bunch of people in their 20's definitely without the financial means to be supporting a sugar hobby, so I can see why they might think being younger I might be the same. But I just want to be careful about hinting at money too soon, since 1) I want to do PPM which I believe seeking will ban you for so I try to discuss that via text, and 2) again I feel like some of the younger women on the site don't want to be thought of as escorts even though they basically are, so I don't know if bringing up money will turn them off.

[QUOTE=Glhfddka;4015093]Yeah when I made a fake female profile, I saw my competition, which is a bunch of people in their 20's definitely without the financial means to be supporting a sugar hobby, so I can see why they might think being younger I might be the same. But I just want to be careful about hinting at money too soon, since 1) I want to do PPM which I believe seeking will ban you for so I try to discuss that via text, and 2) again I feel like some of the younger women on the site don't want to be thought of as escorts even though they basically are, so I don't know if bringing up money will turn them off.[/QUOTE]It's pretty simple to make a chick profile? Never tried, but do they get automatic access that we don't?

Wasn't hard for me. Dunno if I got lucky or whatever. Wouldn't let me message people though, which I wanted to do to message myself to test how that worked on both ends, as well as favoriting a profile.

BTW thanks for all the advice and stuff, I've changed game up a bit, and instead of just trying to move right to phone number immediately after 1-2 messages, I'm spending maybe 5-10 more messages before asking for a number, and making it clear, though not explicitly, that I'm willing to pay for intimate dates and I'm not just on the site to try to get free hookups. This lets the woman feel a bit more comfortable with me I think, and makes it feel less transactional to them (ironically despite the fact that I'm making the $ aspect of it clear), and they don't think I'm just looking for a warm hole to park my junior into.

In the past 2 days, I've scheduled too many m&gs to honestly hope to go to all of them, so things are looking up. Just needed to change things up a little tiny bit.

Has anyone seen this one? Have been in contact with her for awhile she's pretty young but for the most part knows her stuff just a little hesistant to pull the trigger. Thank you gentleman!

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/662e5328-1391-8d79-ae19-0632d171f436[/URL]

Is this one a pro?

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/b9cd335e-1b60-4a7c-85df-39e75436266e[/URL]

If yalls looking for philly area with discretion, where do you do the intro meet? I heard the temple area has the largest concentration of young 20's.

How do you guys find enough new blood to message? Maybe my standards are too high, but I'm getting tired of seeing the same 30 or so women over and over again with my search criteria on SA. A bunch of them aren't really serious about doing anything. Many have unreasonable expectations. Some have no means of transportation (I live in the burbs). Of the few remaining, I've messaged all the ones I'm interested in, and there aren't enough new members joining up regularly to make the site worthwhile.

[QUOTE=Glhfddka;4027377]How do you guys find enough new blood to message? Maybe my standards are too high, but I'm getting tired of seeing the same 30 or so women over and over again with my search criteria on SA. A bunch of them aren't really serious about doing anything. Many have unreasonable expectations. Some have no means of transportation (I live in the burbs). Of the few remaining, I've messaged all the ones I'm interested in, and there aren't enough new members joining up regularly to make the site worthwhile.[/QUOTE]I found it to be the same. I'm looking for someone more my age early 30's and their aren't many options. I've had extended off site convos with several of them but they don't seem to driven. The younger girls are very driven to make $ but scare me.

Can anyone make any recommends?

So just wondering if you had any luck beyond m&g.

[QUOTE=Glhfddka;4016502]Wasn't hard for me. Dunno if I got lucky or whatever. Wouldn't let me message people though, which I wanted to do to message myself to test how that worked on both ends, as well as favoriting a profile.

BTW thanks for all the advice and stuff, I've changed game up a bit, and instead of just trying to move right to phone number immediately after 1-2 messages, I'm spending maybe 5-10 more messages before asking for a number, and making it clear, though not explicitly, that I'm willing to pay for intimate dates and I'm not just on the site to try to get free hookups. This lets the woman feel a bit more comfortable with me I think, and makes it feel less transactional to them (ironically despite the fact that I'm making the $ aspect of it clear), and they don't think I'm just looking for a warm hole to park my junior into.

In the past 2 days, I've scheduled too many m&gs to honestly hope to go to all of them, so things are looking up. Just needed to change things up a little tiny bit.[/QUOTE]

I agree with most of what you said. It's the game of patience and follow your instinct in my opinion. You don't wana regret if your instinct asked you to leave to me, I am a bit scared of 18-20 crowd, and just feel a bit safer with 21-28 crowd. What I have also seen to be working is the longer date incentive, meaning lunch / dinner + activity+ home run. If someone buys into that then that's almost like 90% success guaranteed. M&Gs are tricky especially w / o allowance. Success there is less than 40%. The biggest challenge is to figure out Pro vs true SB. At times one also needs to think if that indeed matters if you find the right one who is willing to spend an evening with you but not at an hourly rate. At the end of the day, all that matters is the experience you are able to get. If that meets your expectation in terms of looks, quality of conversation and with passionate ending. You may need to have your own scale for these three buckets and see which one is more important.

[QUOTE=LikeMFlat;4014774]Sometimes it works out that way. One of my favorite SBs was a 19-year-old college student. I wrote to her one evening. She had replied in the morning, and during the day we messaged then texted. We met that night and hooked up. She's one of the most beautiful girls I've been with. Blond hair, 5'9", slim but with nice tits, and a truly beautiful face. I almost bailed on her because she asked if she could bring a friend to the meet and greet. But I'm really glad I didn't. I saw her often until I moved out of town, and I still see her once in a while when we're in the same area. I've had a few other girls who I met and hooked up with within a day or two. You do need some amount of flexibility and you need to be ready to jump in if you meet a good one.

Another time I messaged a girl, moved to text, then met her for coffee the next morning. She was almost an hour late. This is why I often schedule meet and greets for coffee at a place I like. Even if she doesn't show I'll have a good coffee and breakfast. I would usually not wait an hour for a girl, but she looked beautiful in her photos. When she showed up, I was finished my coffee and I was about to leave. She was a mess. She was high, smelled like stale weed, maybe a little drunk, and still had her makeup on from partying the night before. She was a bit of a narcissist and a wannabe model, but she was also friendly and sweet. She was so out of it that when we left the coffeeshop she literally walked right into a parked car and fell over. I was thinking I'd never see her again. But later that day she texted me, apologized, and we made a date for the next evening. She also turned out to be really great, and she was also among the most beautiful girls I've been with.

I guess my point is that an arrangement can speed things up if you meet the right person..[/QUOTE]

Any info on these? Texting convo with all. But not sure yet.

Asking for 4, wants to skip lunch / coffee.

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/21ba001a-f136-f0b3-9f11-956ac76d8a7e[/URL]

Felt like a pro?

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/0d573153-93bb-4c99-9c6e-cafc0bb35679[/URL]

Not sure about yet.

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/751e442a-c093-bc51-49b3-318e7e390b26[/URL]

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/196dbebf-22d9-420b-8f08-03f12b7b7529[/URL]

Total Flake: last minute drop out.

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/9a6302ce-0c14-47ff-9a68-839cd6289ce6[/URL]

[QUOTE=Apothecary;4083427]So just wondering if you had any luck beyond m&g.[/QUOTE]Didn't go that well hahaha. Over 1/2 the scheduled M&G flaked or were absurdly late. I did end up seeing some of them intimately, but most of them weren't worth it at all. Attitude issues, poor hygiene, bad in bed, untrustworthy, etc. I did meet one somewhat regularly who is beautiful, fun, etc. But I guess its a curse. I get bored of seeing the same women repeatedly no matter how great they are.

My premium account's run out now, and seeing as I've messaged every single SB on the site that I'm attracted to in my region, I'm going to take a break from sugaring for a while. Pop my head back up in a while, hopefully there are some new members by then.

I'm trying out vanilla dating / hooking up apps for now but its tough sledding there. Hopefully once I've built my 6-pack by the spring, I'll see a bit more success there.

[QUOTE=Apothecary;4083948]Any info on these? Texting convo with all. But not sure yet.

Asking for 4, wants to skip lunch / coffee.

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/21ba001a-f136-f0b3-9f11-956ac76d8a7e[/URL]

Felt like a pro?

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/0d573153-93bb-4c99-9c6e-cafc0bb35679[/URL]

Not sure about yet.

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/751e442a-c093-bc51-49b3-318e7e390b26[/URL]

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/196dbebf-22d9-420b-8f08-03f12b7b7529[/URL]

Total Flake: last minute drop out.

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/9a6302ce-0c14-47ff-9a68-839cd6289ce6[/URL][/QUOTE]I spoke to rayOfsunShinee and she seemed legit but I didn't pursue. She did say she liked anal too. Let me know if you have luck.

I also pursued this one for a while [URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/94205ea9-34aa-40c8-86fe-f069c43ef603[/URL] but she only seems to check in occasionally. Has anyone met her?

[QUOTE=Apothecary;4083948]Any info on these? Texting convo with all. But not sure yet.

Asking for 4, wants to skip lunch / coffee.

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/21ba001a-f136-f0b3-9f11-956ac76d8a7e[/URL]

Felt like a pro?

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/0d573153-93bb-4c99-9c6e-cafc0bb35679[/URL]

Not sure about yet.

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/751e442a-c093-bc51-49b3-318e7e390b26[/URL]

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/196dbebf-22d9-420b-8f08-03f12b7b7529[/URL]

Total Flake: last minute drop out.

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/9a6302ce-0c14-47ff-9a68-839cd6289ce6[/URL][/QUOTE]Aubrey-Lynn seems like a pro to me, she wanted to skip the meet and greet. She agreed to 300 but then started in with asking how long we'd be, saying she had a busy schedule, etc. So I bailed because she seemed a little too professional for me. She's been on the site quite a while now. I think I spoke with her about a year ago.

I spoke with rayOfsunShinee, she wanted 300 and seems legit. Perhaps also a bit of a pro. But her body isn't attractive IMO so that's why I passed. I prefer tall and slim. She's quite curvy. She does seem like fun though if you find her attractive.

I haven't had contact with the others you mentioned.

[QUOTE=LikeMFlat;4097304]Aubrey-Lynn seems like a pro to me, she wanted to skip the meet and greet. She agreed to 300 but then started in with asking how long we'd be, saying she had a busy schedule, etc. So I bailed because she seemed a little too professional for me. She's been on the site quite a while now. I think I spoke with her about a year ago.

I spoke with rayOfsunShinee, she wanted 300 and seems legit. Perhaps also a bit of a pro. But her body isn't attractive IMO so that's why I passed. I prefer tall and slim. She's quite curvy. She does seem like fun though if you find her attractive.

I haven't had contact with the others you mentioned.[/QUOTE]How about this MILF? [URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/2f3a7bc5-b502-4dd1-9746-909219d7f7ea[/URL].

[QUOTE=Xpxcx;4097573]How about this MILF? [URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/2f3a7bc5-b502-4dd1-9746-909219d7f7ea[/URL].[/QUOTE]I haven't spoken with her, she's not my type. I'm on SA for the college students, 18-22 and preferably tall and slim, and no girls with kids. I can pass for my early 30's and so I can easily hook up with good looking women in their 30's for free. But there's always so much baggage and drama with that. So I tend to date younger women, and for arrangements they need to be significantly better looking than the girls I could attract for free. We all have different taste, but I wouldn't date this one for free.