[QUOTE=Prurient6;2739825]Whereas gargantuan butts are a dime a dozen. Yet they are being peddled as if they were a fabulously desirable rarity. A happy and lecherous new year to everyone.[/QUOTE]That's about right. There are some people whom I've seen, like the girl whom changes her name daily and has the 3 stars tatted on her legs, I've seen and couldn't even get hard with.
I hear you, and really appreciate your input / thoughts. Thanks!
[QUOTE=Amateur11;2740028]Some girls really are into what they do. I'm not talking about making friends, I've posted before that I'm against that for the reasons you likely well know yourself, which are many (!), just that some girls seem to LOVE what they do, but 85%+ hate it and fake it because they are either too dumb, too dysfunctional, too high, or too lazy to make money any other way.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Amateur11;2740028]Some girls really are into what they do. I'm not talking about making friends, I've posted before that I'm against that for the reasons you likely well know yourself, which are many (!), just that some girls seem to LOVE what they do, but 85%+ hate it and fake it because they are either too dumb, too dysfunctional, too high, or too lazy to make money any other way.[/QUOTE]I'd say 98% hate it I've been fortunate to have met a few in that 2% but they either develop a conscious or they get burned out too and become disconnected automatons.
[QUOTE=Arjay111;2739454]Thanks for the answer, first I want to follow the rules and not post anything incorrect. Last Sunday I was not very smart and did something I should not have done. I always like to make sure I know who I am visiting. Please searfor the subject. The lady is 24 and she is Durham, I usually don't go into Durham but I was not able to meet anyone that day so I didn't follow my rules. I was at the place I was getting comfortable turned around for a few minutes she was gone with flowers. I don't like to say bad things about people and she may have had a bad day and a lot of things going on in her life. If anyone has any input that might shed some light on this please do post but I think I need to let someone know about this.[/QUOTE]This is your second post about the unusual experience you had and yet you are still failing to make your point. It's not useful and you are not breaking rules by posting the link or name. That's what this forum is all about and feel free to share your real experience. If you want to help avoid other people here not to go through what you have gone through, then just get to the point. Or send me a PM, I will do it for you. 😉.
[QUOTE=Amateur11;2739612]A lot of this is really gross, and you feel for anyone, on either side who has to put up with retards and bad hygiene / etc, but in general, you can clearly see it (she even said it), this is about NOTHING but money for her. We all know these girls, they're the ones who give shitty service and who are not into it at all. She's as shitty as the clients she is speaking of.
Of course, they're ALL in it for money, but I don't have to explain the difference between "I'm a complete **** so I might as well do what I'm good at and get paid for it,' and "Fuck, I'm screwed, I guess I'm just gonna go sell my ass because I hate my life and it's all fucked up and I'm bitter and just HAVE to pay the bills the easiest way possible"[/QUOTE]Yes. It was more disgusting than funny and she sounds like a horrible asshole.
[QUOTE=Amateur11;2740028]Some girls really are into what they do. I'm not talking about making friends, I've posted before that I'm against that for the reasons you likely well know yourself, which are many (!), just that some girls seem to LOVE what they do, but 85%+ hate it and fake it because they are either too dumb, too dysfunctional, too high, or too lazy to make money any other way.[/QUOTE]Women learn at a very early age how to manipulate little boys and later older men. It's not rocket science. Very, very few of these girls any of us see are truly into it, or love what they do. 98% of addicted to something and lined up with this trade as a means to satisfy that addiction. There are exceptions to any rule, but those of you who think the average working girl is into it, are dreaming.
I've befriended several working girls over the years. True friendship and got inside their minds more than you can count. And they all tell a similar story about the Johns they see. Most will take offense to it, but here goes.....
Most of them are overweight, slobs, insecure, small penises, half can barely get it up and the other half cum in seconds. Bad breath and BO is very common, most think they know how to handle a pussy, but very few do. I here this mantra time and time again. Myself? I do not fit that criteria. In any way. So when I walk through the door, I hear over and over again, "why are you paying for it, I should be paying for you, look a real cock that works, you smell so nice, fuck look at your abs, look at your body, I never get a guy like, etc, etc, etc. Am I being fed a line of shit? No I'm not, because I get the same comments in the real world. Why do I pay for it once in a while? Because I'm a fucking man and my urges to cum, without drama of a girlfriend overcome me. Do I get very special treatment above what I think many here have described? Not always, but more often than not, I believe I do. Many of the girls ask me to drinks, or want to meet for dinner, or cuddle with me, or hangout on their own time. So yeah, it's real.
Moral of the story? Want more of a possible experience and real connection? Smell good, lose the fucking gut, get in shape carry yourself with some confidence, get your dick working, rock hard on command again, take a shower and brush your fucking teeth and learn that these girls are people. Talk to them like a real person. They are messed up, but they are still people. Goes a long way.
Dirty.
[QUOTE=DirtyDeeds38;2740860]Women learn at a very early age how to manipulate little boys and later older men. It's not rocket science. Very, very few of these girls any of us see are truly into it, or love what they do. 98% of addicted to something and lined up with this trade as a means to satisfy that addiction. There are exceptions to any rule, but those of you who think the average working girl is into it, are dreaming.
I've befriended several working girls over the years. True friendship and got inside their minds more than you can count. And they all tell a similar story about the Johns they see. Most will take offense to it, but here goes.....
Most of them are overweight, slobs, insecure, small penises, half can barely get it up and the other half cum in seconds. Bad breath and BO is very common, most think they know how to handle a pussy, but very few do. I here this mantra time and time again. Myself? I do not fit that criteria. In any way. So when I walk through the door, I hear over and over again, "why are you paying for it, I should be paying for you, look a real cock that works, you smell so nice, fuck look at your abs, look at your body, I never get a guy like, etc, etc, etc. Am I being fed a line of shit? No I'm not, because I get the same comments in the real world. Why do I pay for it once in a while? Because I'm a fucking man and my urges to cum, without drama of a girlfriend overcome me. Do I get very special treatment above what I think many here have described? Not always, but more often than not, I believe I do. Many of the girls ask me to drinks, or want to meet for dinner, or cuddle with me, or hangout on their own time. So yeah, it's real.
Moral of the story? Want more of a possible experience and real connection? Smell good, lose the fucking gut, get in shape carry yourself with some confidence, get your dick working, rock hard on command again, take a shower and brush your fucking teeth and learn that these girls are people. Talk to them like a real person. They are messed up, but they are still people. Goes a long way.
Dirty.[/QUOTE]Depends on how they handle themselves, if they stay at low end hotels and offer Quick visits with high volume and are run by a pimp than what you describe is mostly what they are going to attract. I would say that high end providers do care about hygiene.
But I assure you that your delusional if you think they care about your performance or anything else that is not directly related to money.
[QUOTE=Pubb69;2741008]Depends on how they handle themselves, if they stay at low end hotels and offer Quick visits with high volume and are run by a pimp than what you describe is mostly what they are going to attract. I would say that high end providers do care about hygiene.
But I assure you that your delusional if you think they care about your performance or anything else that is not directly related to money.[/QUOTE]I agree with Dirty. I've had a few encounters (can count with both hands) where I stayed way longer than my paid visit to keep pounding or even go eat right after and come back and spend the if jt at her hotel or even just chill out because they were tired after and talk about whatever and cuddle. Now in no ab having guy. Have a little gut and pretty average size but I know how to work it and treat a lady. Of course we all have our opinions but I agree with Dirty here. They're and we're all people. Just some of us look for a quick relief or fantasy. And in any case YMMV. It is what it is.
[QUOTE=DirtyDeeds38;2740860]Women learn at a very early age how to manipulate little boys and later older men. It's not rocket science. Very, very few of these girls any of us see are truly into it, or love what they do. 98% of addicted to something and lined up with this trade as a means to satisfy that addiction. There are exceptions to any rule, but those of you who think the average working girl is into it, are dreaming.
I've befriended several working girls over the years. True friendship and got inside their minds more than you can count. And they all tell a similar story about the Johns they see. Most will take offense to it, but here goes.....
Most of them are overweight, slobs, insecure, small penises, half can barely get it up and the other half cum in seconds. Bad breath and BO is very common, most think they know how to handle a pussy, but very few do. I here this mantra time and time again. Myself? I do not fit that criteria. In any way. So when I walk through the door, I hear over and over again, "why are you paying for it, I should be paying for you, look a real cock that works, you smell so nice, fuck look at your abs, look at your body, I never get a guy like, etc, etc, etc. Am I being fed a line of shit? No I'm not, because I get the same comments in the real world. Why do I pay for it once in a while? Because I'm a fucking man and my urges to cum, without drama of a girlfriend overcome me. Do I get very special treatment above what I think many here have described? Not always, but more often than not, I believe I do. Many of the girls ask me to drinks, or want to meet for dinner, or cuddle with me, or hangout on their own time. So yeah, it's real.
Moral of the story? Want more of a possible experience and real connection? Smell good, lose the fucking gut, get in shape carry yourself with some confidence, get your dick working, rock hard on command again, take a shower and brush your fucking teeth and learn that these girls are people. Talk to them like a real person. They are messed up, but they are still people. Goes a long way.
Dirty.[/QUOTE]Dude I couldn't agree more with you! This game is definitely a YMMV thing, but first impressions do count Not ONLY THAT but it will determine how the session will go and how well you connect with your provider! This is why I always try to Look and smell at my best before my session, I experienced this with ALY (Colorado girl) was a provider that was here not too long ago I totally had a GE with amazing DFK, I'm pretty sure I went over my time both sessions I had with her and she didn't say a thing, she saw the reviews that we wrote about her here! I remembered one of the members mentioned that he attempted to kiss her and she told him NO KISSING, and I questioned her about it she said she didn't kiss him cause he had bad breath and wasn't really her type! She told me I been here for less then a week and you wouldn't believe all the weirdos that have come to see me, she mentioned a guy that asked her to piss in his mouth (of course she declined that) , she told me about another guy that were asking her weird questions like have you ever been a woman? She was like WOOT those stupid questions really turn me off LOL! She mentioned another indian guy that paid 200 bucks just to talk about stupid stuff with his broken English LOL also other things like little dicks, sweaty fat man and bad hygiene she was here for like 5 days and she was sick of it, she straight up told me man I can't wait to be done with this but I really need the money! Not even a week here and I could tell that she was sick already of the profession, the 2nd time I went to visit her she told me, she was soo glad to see me and she was like Dude why do you do this? You are a very attractive guy! I just giggled and said hehe you better quit lying, she was like noo I'm serious your the most attractive client iev gotten so far! I really don't consider myself a very attractive guy (even thou I been told by some providers that I'm cute) and I won't brag about my abbs cause I don't have any, I do work out and I am in a decent shape and keep my hygiene at my best, and best of all I try to be as nice as possible everytime I get to a session and they open the door I always go like hey can I give you a hug! I always do it just to break the ice and make my provider feel more comfortable, and doing all these things have helped to make a good connection with my providers, Not only that but it opens more options in the menu witch is awesome! So yall better tighten up guys maintaining a good hygiene and look does matter True talk.
[QUOTE=DirtyDeeds38;2740860]Most of them are overweight, slobs, insecure, small penises, half can barely get it up and the other half cum in seconds. Bad breath and BO is very common, most think they know how to handle a pussy, but very few do. I here this mantra time and time again. Myself? I do not fit that criteria. In any way. So when I walk through the door, I hear over and over again, "why are you paying for it, I should be paying for you, look a real cock that works, you smell so nice, fuck look at your abs, look at your body, I never get a guy like, etc, etc, etc. Am I being fed a line of shit? No I'm not, because I get the same comments in the real world. [/QUOTE]Providers Prefer:
1. [B]Big Money[/B].
2. [B]Small Dick[/B].
3. [B]Quick Cum and Exit[/B].
Fancy french cologne and listerine mouthwash is just icing on the cake. They don't give rat's ass about a 6-pack.
That's like 98% percent of the providers out there. There is a minute percentage who really do like sex and you're right it's probably not with the a smelly slob. But even these girls get jaded quickly. They begin to dislike / hate men very quickly. Think about it how fun can it be for them to have sex with guy after guy after guy -- and what fun can it to be pounded? Besides the above 3, I've had lots of providers tell me their favorites are old guys (65+) who usually don't even get it up but are there because they are lonely and just want to talk to them. Also, I can't find the site but there is a London apartment "models" providers forum (kind of opposite of this site) somewhere and they had this discussion about super good looking clients and I think it was something like out of 30 girls, 2 girls actually cared.
Not saying it doesn't happen that the girls likes to fuck you and is into you but it is pretty fucking rare. Most the time, you are being fed dog shit and you're eating it like it's caviar. Like the times I told you I visited Latina and Kayleigh, they were very good at what they did -- even their compliments were delivered so well. "you look so good I want to kiss you all over" "I don't usually kiss but I am slipping with you, can't help myself" "God, that was good, I should be paying you and might have to if you stop seeing me" I was like, that is some really good shit, keep saying it that way because a lot of guys are going to eat that shit up.
One bizarre thing I experience is getting off providers and neither of us acknowledges that they got off. Then I might see them again and they know and maybe want to get off. It's kind of like when I had this fine girlfriend, with the most extraordinary white girl ass you can imagine and we did anal "accidentally" and it was mindblowing how much we were both into it but we acted like it never happened. Then again and again. I never brought it up because I didn't want to lose that "privilege".
[QUOTE=XxJohnJohnXx;2741240]Dude I couldn't agree more with you! This game is definitely a YMMV thing, but first impressions do count Not ONLY THAT but it will determine how the session will go and how well you connect with your provider! This is why I always try to Look and smell at my best before my session, I experienced this with ALY (Colorado girl) was a provider that was here not too long ago I totally had a GE with amazing DFK, I'm pretty sure I went over my time both sessions I had with her and she didn't say a thing, she saw the reviews that we wrote about her here! I remembered one of the members mentioned that he attempted to kiss her and she told him NO KISSING, and I questioned her about it she said she didn't kiss him cause he had bad breath and wasn't really her type! She told me I been here for less then a week and you wouldn't believe all the weirdos that have come to see me, she mentioned a guy that asked her to piss in his mouth (of course she declined that) , she told me about another guy that were asking her weird questions like have you ever been a woman? She was like WOOT those stupid questions really turn me off LOL! She mentioned another indian guy that paid 200 bucks just to talk about stupid stuff with his broken English LOL also other things like little dicks, sweaty fat man and bad hygiene she was here for like 5 days and she was sick of it, she straight up told me man I can't wait to be done with this but I really need the money! Not even a week here and I could tell that she was sick already of the profession, the 2nd time I went to visit her she told me, she was soo glad to see me and she was like Dude why do you do this? You are a very attractive guy! I just giggled and said hehe you better quit lying, she was like noo I'm serious your the most attractive client iev gotten so far! I really don't consider myself a very attractive guy (even thou I been told by some providers that I'm cute) and I won't brag about my abbs cause I don't have any, I do work out and I am in a decent shape and keep my hygiene at my best, and best of all I try to be as nice as possible everytime I get to a session and they open the door I always go like hey can I give you a hug! I always do it just to break the ice and make my provider feel more comfortable, and doing all these things have helped to make a good connection with my providers, Not only that but it opens more options in the menu witch is awesome! So yall better tighten up guys maintaining a good hygiene and look does matter True talk.[/QUOTE]Many of the providers I have seen definitely appreciate the good hygiene and I know they mean it when they really do. There are times they are in mood to kiss and sometimes they are not. May be a guy went before us have pissed her off in some way. We never know. This is difficult for them and us too. I have had great dfk from Sara who absolutely don't kiss, but Aly didn't. In terms of hygiene, fresh smell, structure, abs -I am pretty much a girl could ask for. I get hit and miss and can't really tell what could be the reason for sure. So none of your predictions about everything is 50/50. But like fat lever said, they would have absolutely loved the guy who paid $200 to talk in broken English rather a guy with great hygiene and abs and pound her for an hour. It's common sense, so it's obvious that Aly was bullshitting you. Regardless you had good time is what matters. You can't get really connected with these girls. Its just business.
[QUOTE=FatLever;2741271]Here you go:[/QUOTE]Thanks for that.
I don't like that you are downplaying hygiene. If there is one thing you can do to have a better experience its take a shower and brush your teeth before you leave (this applies to all facets of life). Opens up menus, gets your texts responded to, might get you extra enthusiasm all of which is very YMMV.
Being a capable and attractive guy I agree most providers do not really care, and would prefer more volume. However there are still a lot of women in this because they love sex and are just tickled pink they get paid for it. Many will put on an act and god bless them that is part of what we pay for so don't buy her a car if she says you look good. In my experience about 1 in 4 regular providers will throw you significant perks if you know what you are doing.
It's a by-product of being a backpage advertiser that doesn't really screen. I've heard horror story after horror story of dudes that smell of rot. Dirty dicks with disgusting smegma, smelly armpits and halitosis breath. It's real clear that if you are a dirty sumbitch, you need to understand that a provider is not going to show you a good time so deal with it and don't ***** about a bad time. Fix yourself, work out, lose weight, work on your hygiene and be a better man. I always try to be at my very best to ensure I'm not offensive to providers and it works. Don't be a fucking weirdo. If you like weird shit, seek a provider that does weird shit or find what you are looking for on fetish websites. There is a huge base of people who like watersports, skat, humiliation and so forth. Go there, don't run off good providers with your desire to make them like your oddities.
[QUOTE=XxJohnJohnXx;2741240]Dude I couldn't agree more with you! This game is definitely a YMMV thing, but first impressions do count Not ONLY THAT but it will determine how the session will go and how well you connect with your provider! This is why I always try to Look and smell at my best before my session, I experienced this with ALY (Colorado girl) was a provider that was here not too long ago I totally had a GE with amazing DFK, I'm pretty sure I went over my time both sessions I had with her and she didn't say a thing, she saw the reviews that we wrote about her here! I remembered one of the members mentioned that he attempted to kiss her and she told him NO KISSING, and I questioned her about it she said she didn't kiss him cause he had bad breath and wasn't really her type! She told me I been here for less then a week and you wouldn't believe all the weirdos that have come to see me, she mentioned a guy that asked her to piss in his mouth (of course she declined that) , she told me about another guy that were asking her weird questions like have you ever been a woman? She was like WOOT those stupid questions really turn me off LOL! She mentioned another indian guy that paid 200 bucks just to talk about stupid stuff with his broken English LOL also other things like little dicks, sweaty fat man and bad hygiene she was here for like 5 days and she was sick of it, she straight up told me man I can't wait to be done with this but I really need the money! Not even a week here and I could tell that she was sick already of the profession, the 2nd time I went to visit her she told me, she was soo glad to see me and she was like Dude why do you do this? You are a very attractive guy! I just giggled and said hehe you better quit lying, she was like noo I'm serious your the most attractive client iev gotten so far! I really don't consider myself a very attractive guy (even thou I been told by some providers that I'm cute) and I won't brag about my abbs cause I don't have any, I do work out and I am in a decent shape and keep my hygiene at my best, and best of all I try to be as nice as possible everytime I get to a session and they open the door I always go like hey can I give you a hug! I always do it just to break the ice and make my provider feel more comfortable, and doing all these things have helped to make a good connection with my providers, Not only that but it opens more options in the menu witch is awesome! So yall better tighten up guys maintaining a good hygiene and look does matter True talk.[/QUOTE]
If you look so good and are so great ask her if you can come in a slow day to fuck her for free.