"Sugarbabies" / "Arrangements" Amateurs or Not?

[QUOTE=Ltnric;2077303]So I guess I am a noob. I have only used SA for a few months and the only action I have seen is coffee with a potential and then there was some miscommuication long story short not sure if that will pan out. I've been chatting up this girl who goes by the name Rose is 21 and lives in Tabb Virginia. She feeds me some line about how the last guy used to give her $2,000 per visit and finally drops to $500 minimum. I tell her I will do $300 and I'll drive to her (we are about an hour away). She said fine and she asks me what I want. I play it safe and I suggest we go grab lunch and come back to my hotel room and give her a massage and see how things go. I finish up by saying that I hope she understands what I want and I hope we are both on the same page. She emails back "what are you expecting and like a noob I say I was looking for some oral fun. She said ok. Does this sound like a set up. IF anyone has had an experiece with Rose who is 21 and from Tabb VA let me know. Thanks.[/QUOTE]$300 for just oral? Way too much.

[QUOTE=Ltnric;2077303]So I guess I am a noob. I have only used SA for a few months and the only action I have seen is coffee with a potential and then there was some miscommuication long story short not sure if that will pan out. I've been chatting up this girl who goes by the name Rose is 21 and lives in Tabb Virginia. She feeds me some line about how the last guy used to give her $2,000 per visit and finally drops to $500 minimum. I tell her I will do $300 and I'll drive to her (we are about an hour away). She said fine and she asks me what I want. I play it safe and I suggest we go grab lunch and come back to my hotel room and give her a massage and see how things go. I finish up by saying that I hope she understands what I want and I hope we are both on the same page. She emails back "what are you expecting and like a noob I say I was looking for some oral fun. She said ok. Does this sound like a set up. IF anyone has had an experiece with Rose who is 21 and from Tabb VA let me know. Thanks.[/QUOTE]For 3 $ you should be getting multiples walks up to the buffet, all roads open, and it should be a GFE / PSE experience for at least 1-2 hours.

[QUOTE=Ltnric;2077303]So I guess I am a noob. I have only used SA for a few months and the only action I have seen is coffee with a potential and then there was some miscommuication long story short not sure if that will pan out. I've been chatting up this girl who goes by the name Rose is 21 and lives in Tabb Virginia. She feeds me some line about how the last guy used to give her $2,000 per visit and finally drops to $500 minimum. I tell her I will do $300 and I'll drive to her (we are about an hour away). She said fine and she asks me what I want. I play it safe and I suggest we go grab lunch and come back to my hotel room and give her a massage and see how things go. I finish up by saying that I hope she understands what I want and I hope we are both on the same page. She emails back "what are you expecting and like a noob I say I was looking for some oral fun. She said ok. Does this sound like a set up. IF anyone has had an experiece with Rose who is 21 and from Tabb VA let me know. Thanks.[/QUOTE]Most of these girls are manipulating us to improve their station in life. In this case, it is important to avoid discussing sex and money in the same conversation. It is unlikely that this girl is an agent of the Law trying to set up SDs. She just wants to know how much work she is going to have to. She is a hustler and GPS and does not want to have sex with you. Only a moron would think that they will get $300 for showing up, but that doesn't mean they won't try. For $ in that area you should expect the whole enchilada.

Tell her that an allowance will be paid only after you enter into a relationship, and you will discuss the ins and outs (so to speak) of that relationship when you see her. When asked, tell her you are looking for a sweet and sexy girl (like her) to spend some quality private time with every (week, month, etc) when you have a hotel room in her area. It is your hope that this relationship will be like any special one that would include romance. Any allowance you pay would be just for her expenses. You expect to spend (hrs, days, seconds,) with her when you are together. Ask her if this something she is interested in? Stay general until you know her and are doing the deed. Then you can be specific about services you like and expect.

RE: Donald Sterling. It demonstrates that even Billionaires don't have common sense when dealing with pussy. He is being played like a Banjo by this little dirtbag. And who in their right mind would give an SB 3 cars? You see, even he has to show her how big his balls are.

Well I am now 2-3 months in the bowl and loving it. I am still playing mostly in WYP and SDT sites. Have two babies set up and working regularly. One maybe a long term keeper. Right now just having lots of fun. More dates set up this week. Mid afternoon today. Will be a onetime thing as she is not my type, but could be a lot of fun and cost is right 100. Tomorrow a new college SB 19 for lunch, first date. She is texting the right things and appears to be ready to go. Not sure about her age though. Any advice for babies under 21? Wednesday night will be an all-nighter with existing baby. Thursday lunch is another college baby. Been texting about 3 weeks and finally meeting (maybe). If not, have my HOT mixed college SB for Thursday night. All night.

I have been thinking about a job description for SB's and SD's. Has anyone put any thought into this? I am thinking something I can send out early with a good job description for what I am looking for instead of dragging it out through texts and messages over days. Not sure if an approach this direct would work. Thoughts?

[QUOTE=Ltnric;2077303]So I guess I am a noob. I have only used SA for a few months and the only action I have seen is coffee with a potential and then there was some miscommuication long story short not sure if that will pan out. I've been chatting up this girl who goes by the name Rose is 21 and lives in Tabb Virginia. She feeds me some line about how the last guy used to give her $2,000 per visit and finally drops to $500 minimum. I tell her I will do $300 and I'll drive to her (we are about an hour away). She said fine and she asks me what I want. I play it safe and I suggest we go grab lunch and come back to my hotel room and give her a massage and see how things go. I finish up by saying that I hope she understands what I want and I hope we are both on the same page. She emails back "what are you expecting and like a noob I say I was looking for some oral fun. She said ok. Does this sound like a set up. IF anyone has had an experiece with Rose who is 21 and from Tabb VA let me know. Thanks.[/QUOTE]Most of these girls are manipulating us to improve their station in life. In this case, it is important to avoid discussing sex and money in the same conversation. It is unlikely that this girl is an agent of the Law trying to set up SDs. She just wants to know how much work she is going to have to. She is a hustler and GPS and does not want to have sex with you. Only a moron would think that they will get $300 for showing up, but that doesn't mean they won't try. For $ in that area you should expect the whole enchilada.

Tell her that an allowance of $ will be paid only after you enter into a relationship, and you will discuss the ins and outs (so to speak) of that relationship when you see her. When asked, tell her you are looking for a sweet and sexy girl (like her) to spend some quality private time with every (week, month, etc) when you have a hotel room in her area. It is your hope that this relationship will be like any special one that would include romance. Any allowance you pay would be just for her expenses. You expect to spend (hrs, days, seconds,) with her when you are together. Ask her if this something she is interested in? Stay general until you know her and are doing the deed. Then you can be specific about services you like and expect.

RE: Donald Sterling. It demonstrates that even Billionaires don't have common sense when dealing with pussy. He is being played like a Banjo by this little dirtbag. And who in their right mind would give an SB 3 cars? You see, even he has to show her how big his balls are.

Seniors in the DC Metro area - (not sure where to post) - she's in MoCo and $ can NOT host and open to everything but greece. Nice personality and is just in a hard spot with no job etc. Got to be nice to this one LOL. Hit me up for e-mail.

[QUOTE=FredMoore;2077765]Most of these girls are manipulating us to improve their station in life. In this case, it is important to avoid discussing sex and money in the same conversation. It is unlikely that this girl is an agent of the Law trying to set up SDs. She just wants to know how much work she is going to have to. She is a hustler and GPS and does not want to have sex with you. Only a moron would think that they will get $300 for showing up, but that doesn't mean they won't try. For $ in that area you should expect the whole enchilada.

Tell her that an allowance of $ will be paid only after you enter into a relationship, and you will discuss the ins and outs (so to speak) of that relationship when you see her. When asked, tell her you are looking for a sweet and sexy girl (like her) to spend some quality private time with every (week, month, etc) when you have a hotel room in her area. It is your hope that this relationship will be like any special one that would include romance. Any allowance you pay would be just for her expenses. You expect to spend (hrs, days, seconds,) with her when you are together. Ask her if this something she is interested in? Stay general until you know her and are doing the deed. Then you can be specific about services you like and expect.

RE: Donald Sterling. It demonstrates that even Billionaires don't have common sense when dealing with pussy. He is being played like a Banjo by this little dirtbag. And who in their right mind would give an SB 3 cars? You see, even he has to show her how big his balls are.[/QUOTE]And if you read deeper he admitted they and some past SB's didn't even have sex that often. But the millions he spends are worth less to him than the thousands we spend. It's all relative. Hope I get rich again so I can move up to $$ per date. LOL. At that price I would have them lining up around the block 100 deep.

Thanks for all the inquiries about the C. It has all gone to a trusted senior member.

[QUOTE=Ltnric;2077303] Does this sound like a set up. [/QUOTE]The post sounds like Ltnric and the girl are not on the same page.

[QUOTE=Ltnric;2077303]So I guess I am a noob. I have only used SA for a few months and the only action I have seen is coffee with a potential and then there was some miscommuication long story short not sure if that will pan out. I've been chatting up this girl who goes by the name Rose is 21 and lives in Tabb Virginia. She feeds me some line about how the last guy used to give her $2,000 per visit and finally drops to $500 minimum. I tell her I will do $300 and I'll drive to her (we are about an hour away). She said fine and she asks me what I want. I play it safe and I suggest we go grab lunch and come back to my hotel room and give her a massage and see how things go. I finish up by saying that I hope she understands what I want and I hope we are both on the same page. She emails back "what are you expecting and like a noob I say I was looking for some oral fun. She said ok. Does this sound like a set up. IF anyone has had an experiece with Rose who is 21 and from Tabb VA let me know. Thanks.[/QUOTE]I NEVER discuss details of allowance or what I expect in return until we are sitting face to face having our M&G. You can usually get a feel for what they are looking for by what they post in their profile on the SB sites. I tend to believe, like others, that she is playing you. And, I would never commit to $300 without meeting her and being satisfied that I am going to get all that I am looking for. You have to ask yourself, is it acceptable to you if all she does I'd give you some oral? I would think not. No way is anyone in the Tabb Virginia area giving her $2,000 per visit. I would remind her that ship sailed. Also, do not give her a penny until she enters into the FC. Like Charlie Sheen once said, "I don't pay them for sex, I pay them to leave." I would suggest everyone absorb the fine advise that has been offered by others here. When you put it all together, you reduce your chances of being disappointed. Gentlemen, we work too hard for our hobby money to let a POT easily lift it from us. Remember, they need the green stuff from us far more than we need their pussy. If they don't want to play by my rules, I just say "NEXT!

[QUOTE=Golfcart;2078143]The post sounds like Ltnric and the girl are not on the same page.[/QUOTE]This is why I like this forum. Honest people with great insight. Thanks everyone for the good advice. Yes Golfcart, doesn't sound like we are on the same page and I ain't driving over an hour to find that out. Thanks everyone.

You guys know how this goes. The regular, 9 month in progress, "I am getting sore"are you going to come"... So the fun drains out. Back to the bowl. Had a M&G lunch with a College Babe, supposed to be hot but gotten fat and pics on SD4 M were old...how about that. Bought her lunch and dropped her off. "Aren't you going to give me something for my time"...No. "Didn't you agree when we talked"...no. "The ATM is 3 minutes away, is it a problem"yes... I got to go. Called me an asshole and threw her 1/2 a sandwich at me as I drove off. Ah...the sugar bowl. Takes patience. Mine is wearing thin lately so going low key. Only sent blow-up texts for the next 2 hrs. Think I dodged a bullet. Keep safe.

[QUOTE=Graham111;2078467]You guys know how this goes. The regular, 9 month in progress, "I am getting sore"are you going to come"... So the fun drains out. Back to the bowl. Had a M&G lunch with a College Babe, supposed to be hot but gotten fat and pics on SD4 M were old...how about that. Bought her lunch and dropped her off. "Aren't you going to give me something for my time"...No. "Didn't you agree when we talked"...no. "The ATM is 3 minutes away, is it a problem"yes... I got to go. Called me an asshole and threw her 1/2 a sandwich at me as I drove off. Ah...the sugar bowl. Takes patience. Mine is wearing thin lately so going low key. Only sent blow-up texts for the next 2 hrs. Think I dodged a bullet. Keep safe.[/QUOTE]The good thing about dating 20 year olds is that its harder to fake the pics. LOL. I like the sandwich story. Been threatened with worse. But its rare. Hang in there dude.

Long time lurker, first time poster here.

I have been following this thread for sometime now and appreciate all the advice and stories. It has helped me out tremendously. I'm not new to the sd / sb game but I am new to doing it thru the internet. When I had several busineses / stores operating I constantly had new sb to play with regularly. Now I'm looking new opportunities.

I have a membership with SA and SDFM. For my area SA seems a better site, and I prefer the info it provides. But both sites have cumbersome platforms that sometimes irritate me. I haven't been impressed with what I'm finding. I've had a lot initially respond then go dark. I know they are active on the site but I do not hear anything. I've had several keep contacting me and providing verification but they are not hot enough.

Right now I've got one that doesn't understand the concept of verifying her photos. She keeps sending me pics but nothing that personalizes it for me. So I'm dropping her.

Just now I basically got into a text war with another sb. Although she had multiple photos on the site she would not personalize a photo for me and could not understand the concept. Then she wanted me to send her a photo. Her argument was "I'm the girl dude! After trying to educate her with no success I finally told her "I'm the daddy! I'm the one with money and reputation so good bye".

I'm thinking this internet approach is too much work with the site messages, emails, and text messages.

Skin.

[QUOTE=SkinJr;2079054]Long time lurker, first time poster here.

I have been following this thread for sometime now and appreciate all the advice and stories. It has helped me out tremendously. I'm not new to the sd / sb game but I am new to doing it thru the internet. When I had several busineses / stores operating I constantly had new sb to play with regularly. Now I'm looking new opportunities.

I'm thinking this internet approach is too much work with the site messages, emails, and text messages.

Skin.[/QUOTE]Welcome Skin, perhaps you can educate us how to prospect for SBs in the real world. Even though you are an experienced SD, fishing on the web is an art form in itself. Just be patient and work it a little slower.

What do you mean by personalizing a photo? Many of us (both sexes) are reluctant to send too personal a view until we get a comfort level established with the Pot. You will be missing a lot of good Pots if you are too pushy up front. Unless it involves a long trip to see her, use the M&G as the ultimate qualifyer.