[QUOTE=MickeyDee;6416197]Which one would you recommend Yuyu or Angela?[/QUOTE]Yuyu all the way. Much more attention than Angela.
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[QUOTE=MickeyDee;6416197]Which one would you recommend Yuyu or Angela?[/QUOTE]Yuyu all the way. Much more attention than Angela.
[QUOTE=MickeyDee;6416200]Hey guys,
I went to get my massage done on Pond in Ashland and didn't order any extras because I wasn't in the mood but the provider still tried to hustle me for tips. Is this normal?[/QUOTE]Tips are customary for regular massage whether at legit places or not. In places that provide "extras", most of the money paid for the hour goes to the house. Not tipping is a dick move.
[QUOTE=MickeyDee;6416200]Hey guys,
I went to get my massage done on Pond in Ashland and didn't order any extras because I wasn't in the mood but the provider still tried to hustle me for tips. Is this normal?[/QUOTE]I don't think 'forced' would be an accurate word to use.
It was never unusual for the worker to say something like 'you take care of me? Or 'you be good to me?
However, I may be having one of those time warp moments, but it seems to me that in more recent years demanding that an agreed tip be paid up front has became more of the norm than it used to be.
[QUOTE=Blately;6416739]Tips are customary for regular massage whether at legit places or not. In places that provide "extras", most of the money paid for the hour goes to the house. Not tipping is a dick move.[/QUOTE]I agree. Many / most places the house gets the house fee. The girls work just for tips.
[QUOTE=MickeyDee;6416200]Hey guys,
I went to get my massage done on Pond in Ashland and didn't order any extras because I wasn't in the mood but the provider still tried to hustle me for tips. Is this normal?[/QUOTE]You tip your waitress, barender, barber, hotel house keeping. Why in the world would you NOT tip your masseuse??
[QUOTE=MickeyDee;6416200]Hey guys,
I went to get my massage done on Pond in Ashland and didn't order any extras because I wasn't in the mood but the provider still tried to hustle me for tips. Is this normal?[/QUOTE]Foolish, despite the urge not to respond, you just can't help it. This is one of them. Agree, why would you not tip. Because you like negative attention? You are rude? You are inconsiderate? Or, let's see. You just need attention. I have never been to this place-Pond-however, it sounds like a place where there are extras. And unless you are an idiot, you know that this is how the girls in places like this make their money, not from a platonic massage. That is the whole point of the place. And there are hundreds of platonic massage facilities available. Yet, you choose to go to this one and screw the girl over. Oh-let me extend my sympathy to you because she asked you or "hustled you (not heard that one since the 70's) for a tip. NOT.
Sadly, this nonsense is prevalent on all forums on the internet, even regular ones for platonic interests, and non-massage / escort sites.
Why should I be expected to pay more than the cost of the service that's false advertising.
In fact people who overtip the providers are the problem because they inflate prices for everyone and now the providers are demanding 100 for a basic BJ.
I stopped in at Forever Young on Millbury. It should be renamed Forever Old. I drew Anna a late 50's plumper with almost zero skills, whether legit or not. I was playful from the get go and started the session face up, after a little tease, which lacked any sensuality whatsoever, she offered the universal HJ signal. I suggested she use her mouth instead and she was agreeable but refused my starting offer of 80 and claimed, everybody gets 140 or at least 120. I bumped my offer to 100 with a no cover caveat. That was a hard no so I said, no problem, I will leave. Suddenly a BJ with the little baggie was available at 80. What the heck, lets give it a go. It was pretty bad. She dropped her tight stretch pants to her thighs but didn't allow any touching of her snatch, her legs were glued together. Her bra was up over her natural Bs but the view of her belly overhanging her bikini line was off putting. As I found it difficult to even keep it up during her BJ I opted for a well lubed HJ. That too was challenging and unremarkable and honestly, not pleasurable. Total time was about 19 minutes. I tipped as agreed and left politely but, in a hurry to get out of there.
We have so many more AMP options today than years ago but it seems more and more are just getting in for a fast buck and then moving on before their reputation catches up. With few exceptions Worcester offers mostly grandmothers and at best, decent young looking 45 year olds.
Keep sharing here and maybe things will improve if we stay informed about crappy service.
ARG.
[QUOTE=MickeyDee;6417592]Why should I be expected to pay more than the cost of the service that's false advertising.
In fact people who overtip the providers are the problem because they inflate prices for everyone and now the providers are demanding 100 for a basic BJ.[/QUOTE]You're question was already answered, but I'll post the answer again.
"Tips are customary for regular massage whether at legit places or not. In places that provide "extras", most of the money paid for the hour goes to the house. Not tipping is a dick move. ".
[QUOTE=MickeyDee;6417592]Why should I be expected to pay more than the cost of the service that's false advertising.
In fact people who overtip the providers are the problem because they inflate prices for everyone and now the providers are demanding 100 for a basic BJ.[/QUOTE]No one said anything about over tipping.
But paying for the basic cost of the service is expected. And that means tipping an appropriate amount. Even if it is a legit massage you tip. The tip amount does vary based on service but it is not 0. 20 - 30 is the tip for no extras.
Dudes like you that don't tip what they should are the problem. Causes girls to haggle and want to interrupt the session to be paid before providing any extra service.
Since you are so concerned about cost and are not paying what you should, maybe this hobby is not for you. Seems you can't afford it and will just ruin things for the guy that comes in after you.
[QUOTE=Sounds;6417963]No one said anything about over tipping.
But paying for the basic cost of the service is expected. And that means tipping an appropriate amount. Even if it is a legit massage you tip. The tip amount does vary based on service but it is not 0. 20 - 30 is the tip for no extras.
Dudes like you that don't tip what they should are the problem. Causes girls to haggle and want to interrupt the session to be paid before providing any extra service.
Since you are so concerned about cost and are not paying what you should, maybe this hobby is not for you. Seems you can't afford it and will just ruin things for the guy that comes in after you.[/QUOTE]Well said. Sad thing is, he's not alone. The quality of humans that our society produces is steadily deteriorating. There was once a time when generosity was considered a virtue.
[QUOTE=Blately;6417902]You're question was already answered, but I'll post the answer again.
"Tips are customary for regular massage whether at legit places or not. In places that provide "extras", most of the money paid for the hour goes to the house. Not tipping is a dick move. ".[/QUOTE]Tipping is always a difficult topic. Who do you tip? Barber / Stylist? What if the work out of their home / own the shop. There is a posted price on the wall. Why do you tip? We expect that the provider of a service is being paid a wage that is equal or greater than the government minimum wage. I guess that may not always be the case. I have been offered tips in my line of work, and I respectfully decline them. I agree to work for a wage, the customer agrees to pay X $ for the job I have done. Did I do a really good job? Maybe the customer thinks so, maybe the last person who did the work did a shit job, looked like a slob, had a bad attitude. I don't care, I agreed to do the job for X $. If you go to a massage joint for a hour massage and don't expect any "enhanced" service and don't receive any "enhanced" services, isn't the hour massage X $?
One thing I have never heard. How much (if anything) do the individual providers receive out of the house fee? Do they get paid per customer? Or per hour? Or do they subsist entirely from the patron's tips?
[QUOTE=GMB45;6418184]Tipping is always a difficult topic. Who do you tip? Barber / Stylist? What if the work out of their home / own the shop. There is a posted price on the wall. Why do you tip? We expect that the provider of a service is being paid a wage that is equal or greater than the government minimum wage. I guess that may not always be the case. I have been offered tips in my line of work, and I respectfully decline them. I agree to work for a wage, the customer agrees to pay X $ for the job I have done. Did I do a really good job? Maybe the customer thinks so, maybe the last person who did the work did a shit job, looked like a slob, had a bad attitude. I don't care, I agreed to do the job for X $. If you go to a massage joint for a hour massage and don't expect any "enhanced" service and don't receive any "enhanced" services, isn't the hour massage X $?[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=MickeyDee;6417592]Why should I be expected to pay more than the cost of the service that's false advertising.
In fact people who overtip the providers are the problem because they inflate prices for everyone and now the providers are demanding 100 for a basic BJ.[/QUOTE]But, your question is stupid. You went to a place where they offer extras, you know it, I know it, and so does everyone else. Your attempt to feign ignorance is sad. Your post wasn't about over-tipping, so don't turn it into that. The attempt at backpedaling and backfilling just makes it worse.
Try contributing positively to the forum. Or who am I to tell you what to do? Keep asking stupid questions, there is always a faction that will keep going along with you.
[QUOTE=GMB45;6418184]Tipping is always a difficult topic. Who do you tip? Barber / Stylist? What if the work out of their home / own the shop. There is a posted price on the wall. Why do you tip? We expect that the provider of a service is being paid a wage that is equal or greater than the government minimum wage. I guess that may not always be the case. I have been offered tips in my line of work, and I respectfully decline them. I agree to work for a wage, the customer agrees to pay X $ for the job I have done. Did I do a really good job? Maybe the customer thinks so, maybe the last person who did the work did a shit job, looked like a slob, had a bad attitude. I don't care, I agreed to do the job for X $. If you go to a massage joint for a hour massage and don't expect any "enhanced" service and don't receive any "enhanced" services, isn't the hour massage X $?[/QUOTE]If you're declining tips, it's because your wage isn't based off receiving tips.
The idea of basing the wages of some professions on tipping and the generosity of others is absurd. As harmful as I believe that custom is, I respect my fellow humans and try to act with compassion. As such, I tip as is customary and fair. A person may choose to use their opinion of a custom as an excuse to take advantage of another, but in my opinion, that's a poor excuse to act like an asshole.
The argument that it's too complex to figure out who to tip, and how much, is weak. You're obviously on the internet. Three minutes on google is enough to understand the tipping customs of a planned service. Is the fair treatment of your fellow humans worth that 3 minutes?