"Sugarbabies" / "Arrangements" Amateurs or Not?

Just wanted to give a quick update on one of my SBs I saw recently.

My CL Teacher SB is probably in the top 3 all-time in terms of looks and performance from the SBs I've had in the last several years. The hottest SB I ever had was a Russian European bombshell that I wrote about on these boards last summer. She was a perfect 10 across all rating standards you can think of. Victoria Secret model quality but willing and eager to do anything sexually, and very intelligent. The apex of my Sugar Bowl career thus far. But truth be told, she was too perfect for me and I had no where close the means to hold on to her. Her previous boyfriends / lovers were literally millionaire sugar daddies, the top 1%. I was fortunate to stumble on to her because she was in a phase where she didn't want to be controlled by rich guys and wanted to have more independence in her life. I got lucky that she was genuinely attracted to me and wasn't looking for me to completely support her just a little help here and there. But I imagine not after too long she got sucked back in to the lifestyle of her rich boyfriend. She even told me that he kept calling her daily trying to get her back even while I was seeing her. So when she finally went radio silent on me, I assume he finally got her back into the nest. If I was him, I'd be doing the same thing. Anyway sorry for rambling about the past I just get wistful every time I think about her...

...anyway my CL Teacher is definitely one of my ATFs. She's 5'2", large perky natural Cs, firm flat stomach, and nice shapely bubble butt. You'd normally expect this body type from a young latina or mixed girl, but not a white girl. The sex with the CL Teacher is very passionate and we really get in sync. I'm also able to talk to her several hours straight before we even have sex, so conversations flow very easily with her. She also has very modest budget needs and she actually has never once asked me for money. Never. Which is a first among my long term SBs.

The biggest negative I have with her is that she's flaky. For one reason or another, I'm lucky to see her every 3-4 weeks. On literally half of our scheduled meets, she will go radio silent 24 hours leading up and never texts to cancel. A few times afterward she may give an explanation, but sometimes I never get an explanation and she'll just text me days later pretending nothing happened. For the past several months it's been the same roller-coaster and I tolerated it because our times together were so hot and she never talks about money.

But about week or so ago, after yet another flaking with no warning, I had to lay the hammer down. I told her I was fine with plans changing but she at least needed to notify me ahead of time that she needs to cancel. So we made plans to meet this past week but when she didn't respond to one of my texts the night before I thought another flaking was in store. And on the day of, I hadn't heard from her until I finally get a text from her in the mid afternoon (We were suppose to meet in the late afternoon and evening). I was getting ready to blow off the date but technically she wasn't late yet. So I erased my half-written cancellation text and instead told her the time we could meet that evening.

Well I'm glad I didn't cancel. We talked for a while (just about random things) and then had another fantastic sex romp. To be honest, it was fantastically short. We had plenty of foreplay, oral, and everything but when it came to the sex I lasted just 2 minutes. She hopped on my dick in cowgirl and her tightness and the sight of her perfect tits, flat stomach, and my hands on her perfect ass, I didn't last long at all. Tried thinking about baseball, the IRS, and etc but nothing worked. What was great though after I exploded she just stayed on top of me for several minutes, gently stroking my dick and kissing me.

So glad I didn't cancel the meetup. I wish some of these babies had better communication, but often we don't see the full picture on the other side. She could be wrestling with guilt, she may have a new guy friend she's interested in, could have friends talking in her ear, and etc. I'm just happy that she keeps coming back to me and I know it's not 100% because of the money. I think of the big reasons she keeps coming back is that it's truly been a "No Drama" relationship. Even when she's done things that have annoyed me, I don't lash out at her like I would if I was in a normal relationship. I take a casual approach to it and even when I laid the hammer down about flaking on me, I did it in a soft non-confrontational way. You got to remember many of these girls already have enough drama in their life. So if you can truly be a source of "No Drama" they'll appreciate it and they also feel they can return to your nest without confrontation if they're out of pocket for a bit.

So resist the temptation to always want to scold your SB if they do something that bothers you. Now if you're fine with cutting her loose at any time, then scold away. But if you have a SB that you want to hold on to, explain your expectations but keep the drama and confrontations to an absolute minimum. You'll likely be rewarded for it down the line.

We recently started a "freebies / non pro" thread and I've been reading yours looking for tips advice and the how to. I know about sites like WYP and SA. Are there others? CL seems difficult to navigate with wording requirements. Also doesn't seem worth it with fighting all the spam etc...

Let's say I hit WYP or SA. Is the norm to offer say .2 for lunch then discuss a more high value plan over a meal? And what should I be looking at $ wise for day 2 or 3 visits a month?

Honestly any advice would be greatly appreciated. I've been hitting up the bookstores but the providers have all stopped coming so now it's just dirty old men chasing you around and I want nothing to do with that. The AMPs down here are a good time but for the $.20-60 it takes to have an above average time I think I could probably help out a college girl or whatever and be a lot happier!

Thanks for whatever advice you might send my way. As always PM are more than welcome.

[URL]http://www.tmz.com/2014/04/26/donald...udio-clippers/[/URL]

This babe has gotten at least a million a year for 4 years.

There is SOO much wisdom on this board. It really is amazing.

Seniors, what is the best way to contact you. Board postings or PMs? Or is it a Senior to Senior kinda thing?

Thanks.

[QUOTE=JohnGSmith;2075706]Just wanted to give a quick update on one of my SBs I saw recently.

The biggest negative I have with her is that she's flaky. For one reason or another, I'm lucky to see her every 3-4 weeks. On literally half of our scheduled meets, she will go radio silent 24 hours leading up and never texts to cancel. A few times afterward she may give an explanation, but sometimes I never get an explanation and she'll just text me days later pretending nothing happened. For the past several months it's been the same roller-coaster and I tolerated it because our times together were so hot and she never talks about money.

So resist the temptation to always want to scold your SB if they do something that bothers you. Now if you're fine with cutting her loose at any time, then scold away. But if you have a SB that you want to hold on to, explain your expectations but keep the drama and confrontations to an absolute minimum. You'll likely be rewarded for it down the line.[/QUOTE]There is absolutely no good excuse for a SB flaking like she does. She is irresponsible and doesn't respect you. However, your advice is good JG. She is obviously worth the pain since she takes care of business when you are together. The damage to you is twofold 1) disappointment when you are looking forward to getting into that pussy when she flakes and 2) You might not have enough time to arrange a backup plan, so you go with blue balls for a while. The +s outweigh the -s.

My FB I advanced $$ to flaked on on our regularly scheduled time. Strike 1 . She had a good excuse but I will see. She owes me 4 sessions before she gets paid again. I still think she will produce but we all know what can happen. Next visit we will try a little bondage and spanking.

[QUOTE=HollywoodGuy;2075116]Got a hit off my CL ad. When I saw the pics I thought this has to be TGTBT. Within two days I found myself in the apartment of a beautifull 5'2" 22 year old latina. She was a college grad and now Jr Executive living alone in a fashionable apt in Hollywood.

She greeted me in a little black dress and heels. I was in shock and awe when I saw her. Just an amazingly beautiful and very refined girl, looking to widen her experience in life with a mature, considerate and devilish older guy.

We just went straight at it for the next 90 minutes. I think we were both taken off guard. Trying to be objective she was at least a 8/9/10/8. Paid my $ and went home. Can't wait to see her again.[/QUOTE]Hollywood, You are THE Man! You score another OSCAR in Tinsel Town. She's a hottie!

Brneyehound, welcome to the blog. Everything you are asking has been written about in exquisite detail. All of your??s will be answered, just read the whole thing.

[QUOTE=HollywoodGuy;2076074][URL]http://www.tmz.com/2014/04/26/donald...udio-clippers/[/URL]

This babe has gotten at least a million a year for 4 years.[/QUOTE]She's attractive but I've met girls from SA in the last year that looked as good or better. None of them have met a billionaire. Problem with this story is that those girls will be thinking "why not me?" and will tend to lose touch with reality. Second problem is that this guy is such a douche that some girls will be thinking "even for big bucks, I'd never do it! As for her, in a just world, after banking that much and then throwing the guy under the bus, deservedly or not, she would be a pariah; but in our world she will probably get a reality show next year.

[QUOTE=Dsprdo;2076362]She's attractive but I've met girls from SA in the last year that looked as good or better. None of them have met a billionaire. Problem with this story is that those girls will be thinking "why not me?" and will tend to lose touch with reality. Second problem is that this guy is such a douche that some girls will be thinking "even for big bucks, I'd never do it! As for her, in a just world, after banking that much and then throwing the guy under the bus, deservedly or not, she would be a pariah; but in our world she will probably get a reality show next year.[/QUOTE]

http://www.heavy.com/news/2014/04/v-stiviano-donald-sterlings-girlfriend-racist-comments-tape/

Maybe this link will stay up.

Wendi Deng Murdoch.

Just google her name... Her husband has a net worth of 13 billion. He knew what he was doing. She unashamedly slept her way to the top. And as awesome as she probably is, she isn't any better in the sack than some of the girls we nail (for a whole lot less).

[QUOTE=HollywoodGuy;2076502]Wendi Deng Murdoch.

Just google her name... Her husband has a net worth of 13 billion. He knew what he was doing. She unashamedly slept her way to the top. And as awesome as she probably is, she isn't any better in the sack than some of the girls we nail (for a whole lot less).[/QUOTE]A couple of years ago I was in a SE Asian country and went to a "strip club". It was basically a club where the girls danced in unison like the rockettes and you get to pick the one you want. I ended up with a beauty pageant contestant that was WAY hotter than this Murdoch chick. I actually thought to myself that this girl could go to the USA And find a sugar daddy or rich husband and not have to do this. And she wasn't even the hottest working that night. If any of you wealthy guys want to find girls like that and are willing to travel let me know and we can come to an arrangement.

[QUOTE=HollywoodGuy;2076472]http://www.heavy.com/news/2014/04/v-stiviano-donald-sterlings-girlfriend-racist-comments-tape/

Maybe this link will stay up.[/QUOTE]Both girls banging these rich guys are soso to me. You'd think with their money they could get something better. But perhaps they are dream girls for these two. I would pay them $200 per visit but not a penny more. There are so many gorgeous girls around, and each and every one of them has a price.

Joe Blow, Post most of your issues on the forum, because everyone here can learn something. I'm sure you have a lot to teach the rest of us in some way. If you have personal or private questions PM someone.

Half price for 20 mg name brand cialis. Seniors pm for details. Not sure if I can post this. If not. Sorry to moderator.

So I guess I am a noob. I have only used SA for a few months and the only action I have seen is coffee with a potential and then there was some miscommuication long story short not sure if that will pan out. I've been chatting up this girl who goes by the name Rose is 21 and lives in Tabb Virginia. She feeds me some line about how the last guy used to give her $2,000 per visit and finally drops to $500 minimum. I tell her I will do $300 and I'll drive to her (we are about an hour away). She said fine and she asks me what I want. I play it safe and I suggest we go grab lunch and come back to my hotel room and give her a massage and see how things go. I finish up by saying that I hope she understands what I want and I hope we are both on the same page. She emails back "what are you expecting and like a noob I say I was looking for some oral fun. She said ok. Does this sound like a set up. IF anyone has had an experiece with Rose who is 21 and from Tabb VA let me know. Thanks.

[QUOTE=Ltnric;2077303]So I guess I am a noob. I have only used SA for a few months and the only action I have seen is coffee with a potential and then there was some miscommuication long story short not sure if that will pan out. I've been chatting up this girl who goes by the name Rose is 21 and lives in Tabb Virginia. She feeds me some line about how the last guy used to give her $2,000 per visit and finally drops to $500 minimum. I tell her I will do $300 and I'll drive to her (we are about an hour away). She said fine and she asks me what I want. I play it safe and I suggest we go grab lunch and come back to my hotel room and give her a massage and see how things go. I finish up by saying that I hope she understands what I want and I hope we are both on the same page. She emails back "what are you expecting and like a noob I say I was looking for some oral fun. She said ok. Does this sound like a set up. IF anyone has had an experiece with Rose who is 21 and from Tabb VA let me know. Thanks.[/QUOTE]Take a pass. You are getting played big time unless she is a super model down on all fours.

[QUOTE=Dsprdo;2076362]She's attractive but I've met girls from SA in the last year that looked as good or better. None of them have met a billionaire. Problem with this story is that those girls will be thinking "why not me?" and will tend to lose touch with reality. [/QUOTE]Actually, it could benefit us. According to this article:

[URL]http://www.thesmokinggun.com/documents/Donald-Sterling-deposition-excerpts-687243[/URL]

...he only gave her $500 each time they had sex. If that's all a billionaire will lay out, these girls can't expect a lot from us normal guys.

She does sound like a fun girl, though.