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[QUOTE=Bertlong;4123912]Tactic or not she still refused to fuck. I try offering more money and it was no go and believed me I am not an ugly guy we had drinks and log talks and dances also but still no go. I even speak Spanish so her and I can communicate better and still no go. May by you had that charm that captivated her but so far no guy is doing that. I will keep trying and if it gets too much I will call it quits but for now is her and now I going after genavin she is hot hot hot.[/QUOTE]Just to clarify one thing, I have not been OTC with her either. I was just stating that all of them, including her will fuck for the right price. Now G is hot. Also next on my OTC list.
Cheers.
TM.
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Recent club visits
At Raiders had CR dances from Elana (a plastic surgery failure), Tatiana, Karen, and Carolina. Karen and Carolina were HJ only experiences with Carolina being the best. Tatiana is so sexy and hot. It was a satisfying experience.
At Venom had cabanas with China, Evie, Monica, Jamaica, and Brandy. All were exceptional performances except Evie who I don't recommend.
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Strip Club Rates
I have never been a fan of strip clubs because in my experience I end up blowing a lot of money and just go home horny. Because of that I only go on the rare occasions like my married friends actually getting to go out or the occasional bachelor party. That being said, I have been to most of the strip clubs in Tucson over the years and the only one with real talent that I have actually risked asking about take out was Tens and I have had no luck, (haven't tried in a few years though).
Lately I have been contemplating giving the clubs a try though, because every attempt to try out new talent on the escort scene lately has led to a wasted night of searching, texting, getting no replies, stupid screening requests or getting ridiculous rates from non reviewed and non attractive providers. The few I have actually seen have been mediocre at best and I am really getting sick of wasting my time and money. So here I am checking out the strip club forum.
My main concern is the overall cost and if it's actually worth it though. Will someone please break this down for me? I realize that it differs from club to club and dancer to dancer, but I'm just looking for an estimate or average that you would normally expect to pay. I am wondering what the overall cost is, (cover charge, drinks, dances, etc) for the following:
1. Getting a BJ in the club.
2. FS in the club.
3. Cost of takeout for half hour.
4. Cost of take out for a full hour.
I do realize that talking specifics is a touchy topic now a days so if you prefer, please send me a PM.
Thank you in advance.
ILH.
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Damage?
[QUOTE=StripperLuv;4124290]At Raiders had CR dances from Elana (a plastic surgery failure), Tatiana, Karen, and Carolina. Karen and Carolina were HJ only experiences with Carolina being the best. Tatiana is so sexy and hot. It was a satisfying experience.
At Venom had cabanas with China, Evie, Monica, Jamaica, and Brandy. All were exceptional performances except Evie who I don't recommend.[/QUOTE]Hi,
I've seen Carolina before never had the chance to take her CR. What was the damage for HJ?
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My 2 cents
For extras venom is best with raiders in second.
Floor dances are 10. Cabana or Champaign room are $20.
Venom has the cabanas which is basically a closet, very practical but it's $25 entrance fee. Raiders has no fee Champaign but not as private and girls are less willing to cross lines. Still happens though.
1. Getting a BJ in the club. Most I've heard is $100.
2. FS in the club. $100-$200.
3. Cost of takeout $200 in my experience but I don't have a lot. Avoid pay now scams. They've rarely discussed time just activities.
Get a floor dances first. If she colors outside the lines she'll let you know. Let your hands wander so she knows your down.
Venom girls know what the Cabana is for but you may want to be more circumspect at raiders. The champagne room is more legit than not.
Avoid PHX girls unless they're reviewed.
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The boat
I visited the boat tonight about 6:30. Had 4 table dances with Momo. She us a young blonde with a cups and a fantastic ass and pussy. She gives great table dances. Pussy rubbing. Titty sucking. Fiv. She told me in the Champaign Room, She will be sure I cum. She will not put anything in her mouth, but she will put whatever I want in mine. So all in all a fun time if you don't want a BBBJ or FS.
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6 weeks for mongering
Got back to Tucson Monday night for six weeks for work. Hit up the boat Monday night. Very quiet. For a while I was the only customer there. Ran into Kaylani. She's a light complected AA who I knew from Venom. She's now at the boat and also works at Eden every so often. She is pretty and has a thin build. Too tall to be a spinner. The only other dancer I knew there that night was Hazel. Monday was the first time she didn't attack me when I walked in the door to try to get me to go to the champagne room with her. Met an attractive small framed girl, probably Hispanic, named Ella. Hit the champagne room with her for five dances. Very sensual dances. Nothing over the top. Would like to see more of her. Seems very intelligent. Says she works as a barista during the day.
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[QUOTE=AZHopeful;4129496]Got back to Tucson Monday night for six weeks for work. Hit up the boat Monday night. Very quiet. For a while I was the only customer there. Ran into Kaylani. She's a light complected AA who I knew from Venom. She's now at the boat and also works at Eden every so often. She is pretty and has a thin build. Too tall to be a spinner. The only other dancer I knew there that night was Hazel. Monday was the first time she didn't attack me when I walked in the door to try to get me to go to the champagne room with her. Met an attractive small framed girl, probably Hispanic, named Ella. Hit the champagne room with her for five dances. Very sensual dances. Nothing over the top. Would like to see more of her. Seems very intelligent. Says she works as a barista during the day.[/QUOTE]Dancers who work at the Boat or Venom sometimes work at Eden from 2-4, since Eden is open later. Eden is usually the worst bet for extras, but if a dancer is working 2-4 at Eden after working at another SC you might be able to negotiate something.
My experience is that Eden is pretty busy during the Gem Show- it is not great by Tucson standards, usually strict on contact and the one time I tried their cabana a bouncer stood outside the door and warned us a couple times per song about too much touching. But by the standards of other cities I've visited SCs, Eden is probably better than it is by Tucson standards. Los Angeles has very attractive dancers at most of the clubs but you have to spend a lot of money or visit a sketchy SC by the airport to get extras. Las Vegas is similar, but even a sketchy club might break the bank. Seattle is similar also. Tucson provides the most options at a reasonable price in my experience, but if you are used to overpriced SCs with stricter rules for contact then Eden or even Ten's is pretty good.
During the Gem Show, I think Venom and the Boat are still the best bet. Curves brings in out of town dancers and has a lot of attractive dancers, but it gets so busy you have to go the VIP just to get a dance. That skews supply and demand in favor of the dancer. I haven't tried Eden or Ten's during the Gem Show, but I've driven by and seen full parking lots a few times. Same for TDW. I look forward to hearing how the SCs are the next few weeks.
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Clubs
Gem show or no show, venom and the boat are your best bets for active playtime.
Curves is a lot of talk and promises for $$ and no delivery, in my experience over 10 years of this nonsense.
East and west are hit or miss but have been worthless for this ole' boy for 2 years running.
10's is a joke unless you know star.
If you hit venom know there is much talent to talk to.
CiCi gives a nice bb reverse cowgirl without any take home burning but unfortunately limits time to 3 songs in cabana. I won't be repeating anytime soon.
Jamaica is out of town for 2 weeks.
Good luck with the gem show in town and clearly OTC is out of the question unless you want to pop 120 for a 60 room.
Happy hunting.
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Diamond. Whoa!
Had a floor dance with Diamond. Wearing a slitted jumper with her meaty labia hanging out. Knew I needed to play deeper and went to champagne for two more dances. Fiv, fia, BBBJ, he and a mouthful of daty. . 5 total. Not sure how I have not seen her before. OTC available but cannot host. One of these days. She is a sweetheart.
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Thanks
[QUOTE=IkkyuSojunn;4125029]For extras venom is best with raiders in second.
Floor dances are 10. Cabana or Champaign room are $20.
Venom has the cabanas which is basically a closet, very practical but it's $25 entrance fee. Raiders has no fee Champaign but not as private and girls are less willing to cross lines. Still happens though.
1. Getting a BJ in the club. Most I've heard is $100.
2. FS in the club. $100-$200.
3. Cost of takeout $200 in my experience but I don't have a lot. Avoid pay now scams. They've rarely discussed time just activities.
Get a floor dances first. If she colors outside the lines she'll let you know. Let your hands wander so she knows your down.
Venom girls know what the Cabana is for but you may want to be more circumspect at raiders. The champagne room is more legit than not.
Avoid PHX girls unless they're reviewed.[/QUOTE]Thank you for all the great info!
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Diamond
[QUOTE=IcemanCummeth;4131232]Had a floor dance with Diamond. Wearing a slitted jumper with her meaty labia hanging out. Knew I needed to play deeper and went to champagne for two more dances. Fiv, fia, BBBJ, he and a mouthful of daty. . 5 total. Not sure how I have not seen her before. OTC available but cannot host. One of these days. She is a sweetheart.[/QUOTE]Yep. She is fun. You got all that done in two dances. Wow. You are faster than a speeding bullet. LOL. I spent 5 songs with her a year ago. She is a regular there. I don't know how you ever missed her. She wants at least 300 for otc. She also watches porn / loves anal. So it might be worth the 300.
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More Diamond at Raiders
[QUOTE=Achmed46;4131495]Yep. She is fun. You got all that done in two dances. Wow. You are faster than a speeding bullet. LOL. I spent 5 songs with her a year ago. She is a regular there. I don't know how you ever missed her. She wants at least 300 for otc. She also watches porn / loves anal. So it might be worth the 300.[/QUOTE]There is no doubt Diamond is talented. Her oral skills, alone, are worth every penny. OTC she becomes a monger's paradise.
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Monica
Monica at venom gets my highest recommendation.
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Demora
Formerly at Curves now at Venom. Best tits ever. Super table dances but nothing added in the cabana.