Rants, Raves and Opinions AKA "The Octagon"

You are new so have some things to learn. Your name can be interpreted by some as being a cop. When you call up a provider, they do not know who you are so are being extra careful. Are you experienced with references, a newbie or a cop? Never ask in detail what they offer. They are being careful so don't want to tell the wrong person details of what they do. Once you have seen some providers and they can give you a reference, the ladies will talk more. Same in regards to asking too specific a question to other Bd members. Read the BDs, gather knowledge, post, and once you have more posting and senior status, you will find many members who are helpful. Just some things to think about.

KC.

[QUOTE=Deepblue798;2590662]I mentioned this in another post but I will talk about it again.

When I talk with a provider to setup something, I always ask about the menu in detail. I have some deal breakers like no dfk, no cim, no deal at all.

Some of the girls are being extremely cautious and refuse to talk about these details on the phone. They think I am a cop to hunt them down on the phone. Somehow, they believe providing this info on the phone will get them arrested.

Some of them tells me that they will not provide this information on the phone. That's fine, I just move on.

Some of them breaks the communication at that point. That is rude.

Some of them are just plain crazy. A couple of them asked me to send them a picture of my tool with my face in it, just to prove that I am not a cop. Ohh really?

I don't know the right word for this (weird, funny, annoying, absurd or whatever) but the most common response is "We will talk when you are here". I will not be there if I can't get answers to my questions honey. Why would I drive all the way to you, just to get my answers and then decide to stay or not stay after talking with you?!

Anyway, by now I got used to this and nothing much surprises me in this subject anymore. I just move on and don't think about it too much. Like I said, I believe some of these girls are extremely cautious but some of them are just plain idiots.

Now this happened to me very recently.

I PMed a senior member about a contact infomation which he possibly might have and I got this reply. Not the same exact words but something in this line.

"Mr. Deepblue with 5 posts, I will not share it with you OFFICER".

Sometimes I am wondering how these people with this much stupidity can manage to survive life? Sometimes I am thinking, this much "stupidity" should be a crime and these people should be locked up.

Then I remember the infamous saying "Ignorance is bliss".

Maybe they are having a happier life than I am just because they are plain stupid.

I am NOT here to offend anybody, just saying.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Deepblue798;2590662]I mentioned this in another post but I will talk about it again.

When I talk with a provider to setup something, I always ask about the menu in detail. I have some deal breakers like no dfk, no cim, no deal at all.

Some of the girls are being extremely cautious and refuse to talk about these details on the phone. They think I am a cop to hunt them down on the phone. Somehow, they believe providing this info on the phone will get them arrested.

Some of them tells me that they will not provide this information on the phone. That's fine, I just move on.

Some of them breaks the communication at that point. That is rude.

Some of them are just plain crazy. A couple of them asked me to send them a picture of my tool with my face in it, just to prove that I am not a cop. Ohh really?

I don't know the right word for this (weird, funny, annoying, absurd or whatever) but the most common response is "We will talk when you are here". I will not be there if I can't get answers to my questions honey. Why would I drive all the way to you, just to get my answers and then decide to stay or not stay after talking with you?!

Anyway, by now I got used to this and nothing much surprises me in this subject anymore. I just move on and don't think about it too much. Like I said, I believe some of these girls are extremely cautious but some of them are just plain idiots.

Now this happened to me very recently.

I PMed a senior member about a contact infomation which he possibly might have and I got this reply. Not the same exact words but something in this line.

"Mr. Deepblue with 5 posts, I will not share it with you OFFICER".

Sometimes I am wondering how these people with this much stupidity can manage to survive life? Sometimes I am thinking, this much "stupidity" should be a crime and these people should be locked up.

Then I remember the infamous saying "Ignorance is bliss".

Maybe they are having a happier life than I am just because they are plain stupid.

I am NOT here to offend anybody, just saying.[/QUOTE]Almost all your questions can be answered if you take the time to read reviews. Newer girl with few reviews? Your loss. Look at the more established providers.

[QUOTE=Deepblue798;2590662]I mentioned this in another post but I will talk about it again.

When I talk with a provider to setup something, I always ask about the menu in detail. I have some deal breakers like no dfk, no cim, no deal at all.

Some of the girls are being extremely cautious and refuse to talk about these details on the phone. They think I am a cop to hunt them down on the phone. Somehow, they believe providing this info on the phone will get them arrested.

Some of them tells me that they will not provide this information on the phone. That's fine, I just move on.

Some of them breaks the communication at that point. That is rude.

Some of them are just plain crazy. A couple of them asked me to send them a picture of my tool with my face in it, just to prove that I am not a cop. Ohh really?

I don't know the right word for this (weird, funny, annoying, absurd or whatever) but the most common response is "We will talk when you are here". I will not be there if I can't get answers to my questions honey. Why would I drive all the way to you, just to get my answers and then decide to stay or not stay after talking with you?!

Anyway, by now I got used to this and nothing much surprises me in this subject anymore. I just move on and don't think about it too much. Like I said, I believe some of these girls are extremely cautious but some of them are just plain idiots.

Now this happened to me very recently.

I PMed a senior member about a contact infomation which he possibly might have and I got this reply. Not the same exact words but something in this line.

"Mr. Deepblue with 5 posts, I will not share it with you OFFICER".

Sometimes I am wondering how these people with this much stupidity can manage to survive life? Sometimes I am thinking, this much "stupidity" should be a crime and these people should be locked up.

Then I remember the infamous saying "Ignorance is bliss".

Maybe they are having a happier life than I am just because they are plain stupid.

I am NOT here to offend anybody, just saying.[/QUOTE]I have to have seen you before I would even think about talking about what I offer. You can however look at my past reviews and my website if you would like to know more. It is for safety reasons the same reasons I ask for references it is not only for my safety but, for yours as well. Hope this helps you understand a little bit.

Always,

VR.

[QUOTE=Grizzler;2591094]The deal is pretty straightforward. Saying it's "this much money and I do xyz" is evidence of intent to sell "xyz" for "this much" money. Hard to back away from that. Or pretend it was just for her time. So that is why most will avoid it. Might even scare experienced men away if she discussed business over the phone or in text. Same reason we don't hand the money directly to her. Because it creates a small window of deniability. You just put the money down. She picks it up later. You didn't give her the money. She found the money. It's bullshit. But technically it might be enough to wiggle out of a bad time.

As far as anyone choosing not to share information with you. They don't know you. They only have a few posts to get a feel for who you might be. What kind of guy you are. Why should you be shared with at all? Why should a guy take a chance on you? See the parallel? Also. Your name is deepblue. Would be stupid of cops to call themselves that. But cops who work a useless beat like vice. Well. I think most of us would call anyone who dedicates their life to immorally upholding a law that is unjust as being the worst kind of stooge. Seems like if you were willing to compromise your honor in this way. You might also be an idiot.[/QUOTE]I read his posts and I've seen nothing that would allow me to trust him with info. You can't get specific with girls on the phone or text it's way to incriminating, I don't know what this guys rant is about but to me it's pure BS and post count buildup. HL29.

If you had bothered to read anything on here you'd know that nearly all of the things you post below are verboten in the world of pay for play, plus you decided to create a username that elicits quite a bit of suspicion in these parts. Then you label everyone that doesn't trust you or want to cooperate ignorant?

I'm surprised you have managed to get laid at all if you're for real, because you are pretty ignorant.

Not trying to offend you. Just sayin.

[QUOTE=Deepblue798;2590662]I mentioned this in another post but I will talk about it again.

When I talk with a provider to setup something, I always ask about the menu in detail. I have some deal breakers like no dfk, no cim, no deal at all.

Some of the girls are being extremely cautious and refuse to talk about these details on the phone. They think I am a cop to hunt them down on the phone. Somehow, they believe providing this info on the phone will get them arrested.

Some of them tells me that they will not provide this information on the phone. That's fine, I just move on.

Some of them breaks the communication at that point. That is rude.

Some of them are just plain crazy. A couple of them asked me to send them a picture of my tool with my face in it, just to prove that I am not a cop. Ohh really?

I don't know the right word for this (weird, funny, annoying, absurd or whatever) but the most common response is "We will talk when you are here". I will not be there if I can't get answers to my questions honey. Why would I drive all the way to you, just to get my answers and then decide to stay or not stay after talking with you?!

Anyway, by now I got used to this and nothing much surprises me in this subject anymore. I just move on and don't think about it too much. Like I said, I believe some of these girls are extremely cautious but some of them are just plain idiots.

Now this happened to me very recently.

I PMed a senior member about a contact infomation which he possibly might have and I got this reply. Not the same exact words but something in this line.

"Mr. Deepblue with 5 posts, I will not share it with you OFFICER".

Sometimes I am wondering how these people with this much stupidity can manage to survive life? Sometimes I am thinking, this much "stupidity" should be a crime and these people should be locked up.

Then I remember the infamous saying "Ignorance is bliss".

Maybe they are having a happier life than I am just because they are plain stupid.

I am NOT here to offend anybody, just saying.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=HuntLadys29;2591449]I read his posts and I've seen nothing that would allow me to trust him with info. You can't get specific with girls on the phone or text it's way to incriminating, I don't know what this guys rant is about but to me it's pure BS and post count buildup. HL29.[/QUOTE]One thing though. He has the matter-of-fact demeanor of a seasoned / jaded veteran monger. It took me at least 100 posts before I developed that much sense of entitlement and overall level of douchbagginess.

Am I the only one that thinks tbe majority if not all the providers are charging to much fucking money?

Theres no way a bng should ever be $60 or even $40 that shit is ridiculous. And when I see a provider for cfs I don't have the time to spend with them. So I seek a qv. I want to get in get off snd get out chances are fifteen minutes and I'm out the door. I don't need to be cuddled or sweet talked so why the hell would I pay $60 $80 or $100 or more. I'm not a bad looking fella and ill be damned if I'm going to pay these broads more by the half hour than I make myself in a whole hour. The sad thing is fellow mongers pay these outrageous prices and these girls feel like there entitled because of it. I understand that some girls are better looking than others but in the end its the same fucking result. I'm going to drop my load and be out.

[QUOTE=Deepblue798;2590662]I mentioned this in another post but I will talk about it again.

When I talk with a provider to setup something, I always ask about the menu in detail. I have some deal breakers like no dfk, no cim, no deal at all.

Some of the girls are being extremely cautious and refuse to talk about these details on the phone. They think I am a cop to hunt them down on the phone. Somehow, they believe providing this info on the phone will get them arrested.

Some of them tells me that they will not provide this information on the phone. That's fine, I just move on.

Some of them breaks the communication at that point. That is rude.

Some of them are just plain crazy. A couple of them asked me to send them a picture of my tool with my face in it, just to prove that I am not a cop. Ohh really?

I don't know the right word for this (weird, funny, annoying, absurd or whatever) but the most common response is "We will talk when you are here". I will not be there if I can't get answers to my questions honey. Why would I drive all the way to you, just to get my answers and then decide to stay or not stay after talking with you?!

Anyway, by now I got used to this and nothing much surprises me in this subject anymore. I just move on and don't think about it too much. Like I said, I believe some of these girls are extremely cautious but some of them are just plain idiots.

Now this happened to me very recently.

I PMed a senior member about a contact infomation which he possibly might have and I got this reply. Not the same exact words but something in this line.

"Mr. Deepblue with 5 posts, I will not share it with you OFFICER".

Sometimes I am wondering how these people with this much stupidity can manage to survive life? Sometimes I am thinking, this much "stupidity" should be a crime and these people should be locked up.

Then I remember the infamous saying "Ignorance is bliss".

Maybe they are having a happier life than I am just because they are plain stupid.

I am NOT here to offend anybody, just saying.[/QUOTE]Us providers need safety too and for us to talk about our menus to a stranger on other end of phone is a no no. We don't know who you are, what you are, what your about and what your going to do. We take enuf risk but we are far from stupid when it comes to safety. You obviously don't care about safety at all. How do you ever know who your really talking too. Unless it's a well reviewed provider as myself you actually wouldn't know. I don't even talk menu over phone with seniors or after reference verification. Reviews say it all though and unless you research your most likely not going to know anything on a provider. But for real to call us stupid and downgrade us like this, is flat out disrespectful and rude. We are humans too and have family kids etc. You are not worth us losing everything we have because of your selfishness. Money doesn't come first to me and some other providers but safety does. I really think you need to quite thinking of only yourself and quite being selfish and show some respect. Just saying.

[QUOTE=Deepblue798;2590662]I mentioned this in another post but I will talk about it again.

When I talk with a provider to setup something, I always ask about the menu in detail. I have some deal breakers like no dfk, no cim, no deal at all.

Some of the girls are being extremely cautious and refuse to talk about these details on the phone. They think I am a cop to hunt them down on the phone. Somehow, they believe providing this info on the phone will get them arrested.

Some of them tells me that they will not provide this information on the phone. That's fine, I just move on.

Some of them breaks the communication at that point. That is rude.

Some of them are just plain crazy. A couple of them asked me to send them a picture of my tool with my face in it, just to prove that I am not a cop. Ohh really?

I don't know the right word for this (weird, funny, annoying, absurd or whatever) but the most common response is "We will talk when you are here". I will not be there if I can't get answers to my questions honey. Why would I drive all the way to you, just to get my answers and then decide to stay or not stay after talking with you?!

Anyway, by now I got used to this and nothing much surprises me in this subject anymore. I just move on and don't think about it too much. Like I said, I believe some of these girls are extremely cautious but some of them are just plain idiots.

Now this happened to me very recently.

I PMed a senior member about a contact infomation which he possibly might have and I got this reply. Not the same exact words but something in this line.

"Mr. Deepblue with 5 posts, I will not share it with you OFFICER".

Sometimes I am wondering how these people with this much stupidity can manage to survive life? Sometimes I am thinking, this much "stupidity" should be a crime and these people should be locked up.

Then I remember the infamous saying "Ignorance is bliss".

Maybe they are having a happier life than I am just because they are plain stupid.

I am NOT here to offend anybody, just saying.[/QUOTE]By posting something useful. An actual review would be astonishing, although I doubt any gal will see you. You seem like too much of a douche.

[QUOTE=Kc148;2591292]You are new so have some things to learn. Your name can be interpreted by some as being a cop. When you call up a provider, they do not know who you are so are being extra careful. Are you experienced with references, a newbie or a cop? Never ask in detail what they offer. They are being careful so don't want to tell the wrong person details of what they do. Once you have seen some providers and they can give you a reference, the ladies will talk more. Same in regards to asking too specific a question to other Bd members. Read the BDs, gather knowledge, post, and once you have more posting and senior status, you will find many members who are helpful. Just some things to think about.

KC.[/QUOTE]It takes time to develop trust. Read the posts. Once you have visited and reported on some providers there is lots of help around here. Include some details you would not know if you had not been there. This will make seasoned veterans more comfortable if they realize the only way you would know this is to have been there. I have seen more than one bogus post knocked out. It is almost comical when you read of someones visit yesterday and 3 veterans come back with she has been on vacation for 2 weeks now.

Once you have a history your reports will not need to include as much detail because the participants will come to trust you.

KC is actually the first on here to give me assistance. His reply did not go into much detail, he simply stated " you will have fun" and boy did I ever. Listen to him. No one starts at the top. If you follow a few rules it may help keep you out of trouble.

Now go have fun.

Fdx.

[QUOTE=Nky777;2591607]Am I the only one that thinks tbe majority if not all the providers are charging to much fucking money?

Theres no way a bng should ever be $60 or even $40 that shit is ridiculous. And when I see a provider for cfs I don't have the time to spend with them. So I seek a qv. I want to get in get off snd get out chances are fifteen minutes and I'm out the door. I don't need to be cuddled or sweet talked so why the hell would I pay $60 $80 or $100 or more. I'm not a bad looking fella and ill be damned if I'm going to pay these broads more by the half hour than I make myself in a whole hour. The sad thing is fellow mongers pay these outrageous prices and these girls feel like there entitled because of it. I understand that some girls are better looking than others but in the end its the same fucking result. I'm going to drop my load and be out.[/QUOTE]That pays premium rates for all those services you don't like. I'm glad I'm ruining it for you, because you appear to be a dick.

[QUOTE=Nky777;2591607]Am I the only one that thinks tbe majority if not all the providers are charging to much fucking money?

Theres no way a bng should ever be $60 or even $40 that shit is ridiculous. And when I see a provider for cfs I don't have the time to spend with them. So I seek a qv. I want to get in get off snd get out chances are fifteen minutes and I'm out the door. I don't need to be cuddled or sweet talked so why the hell would I pay $60 $80 or $100 or more. I'm not a bad looking fella and ill be damned if I'm going to pay these broads more by the half hour than I make myself in a whole hour. The sad thing is fellow mongers pay these outrageous prices and these girls feel like there entitled because of it. I understand that some girls are better looking than others but in the end its the same fucking result. I'm going to drop my load and be out.[/QUOTE]I think you're looking for a street or back alley experience, not an escort experience. There is a market (and a forum thread) just for that sort of service and rates. Check the Streetwalker Reports thread, and you'll probably find a better fit for your tastes.

Thank you all for your replies.

I don't want to take your (or my) valuable time too much, so I will do this. Here are my responses below. Just pick whichever you feel suits to you. Feel free to pick more than one if you want to. I have thrown in some extras. Therefore, not every item has an address. Don't be confused.

Please just remember, "Life is short, but sweet for certain".

Not in any particular order. Please have fun.

1- Thank you.

2- Yes, your right.

3- No, your wrong.

4- Yes, I agree.

5- No, I disagree.

6- Let's agree to disagree.

7- No, I did not call you stupid.

8- No, thank you but I wasn't asking help in that post. Nor, I was complaining about not getting help. You missed the whole point.

9- No, I did not get offended. Why would I?

10- Don't worry about my lay count. I am doing pretty fine. Though, I am always looking for "prettier" and "finer" LOL.

11- Can you really read? I mean; can you really comprehend what you are reading?

12- You don't know what you are talking about but that's okay. I don't have the time nor the energy to explain it you. Your hopeless anyway.

13- I am sorry that you felt like you have been disrespected. It was never my intention. I don't understand why you would feel like that but nevertheless, I am very sorry.

14- No, I am not real. I am an officer to hunt you all down. LOL.

15- I appreciate you all for taking the time to respond. I really do.

[QUOTE=Grizzler;2591094]Seems like if you were willing to compromise your honor in this way. You might also be an idiot.[/QUOTE]I liked this one. Right on point.

Thank you.

[QUOTE=Nky777;2591607]Am I the only one that thinks tbe majority if not all the providers are charging to much fucking money?

Theres no way a bng should ever be $60 or even $40 that shit is ridiculous. And when I see a provider for cfs I don't have the time to spend with them. So I seek a qv. I want to get in get off snd get out chances are fifteen minutes and I'm out the door. I don't need to be cuddled or sweet talked so why the hell would I pay $60 $80 or $100 or more. I'm not a bad looking fella and ill be damned if I'm going to pay these broads more by the half hour than I make myself in a whole hour. The sad thing is fellow mongers pay these outrageous prices and these girls feel like there entitled because of it. I understand that some girls are better looking than others but in the end its the same fucking result. I'm going to drop my load and be out.[/QUOTE]Charging too much money by whose opinion. The provider sets the price. If the provider doesn't get the business they hope for by their asking price then they can decide if they are asking too much. Its up to them not you. Your option is to not see them. Not to demand they lower their price. Do you really think a provider, who is trying to make money, gives a damn what you look like. Their price is what it is. If they are comfortable in what they make for the amount they need then their price is just right. If they need more they can lower their price. If you don't like their price, its certainly your option to not do business with them. Yes we see providers all the time that seem to charge more or equivalent to other providers that we consider better service, looks, etc. And we say compared to the others she is charging too much. But if she is keeping that price, and getting sufficient business to where she is satisfied, then she is not charging too much. She is getting what she needs.