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[QUOTE=ClintWoods;7010416]First of all, I would like to give kudos to this group for providing such great advice on how to deal with and counter a Rob.
I stopped by Synn COI to check out the crowd. Kassandra, a dancer from Sahara (burned down) approached me and I agreed to a 2-4-40. She seemed cool and wanted to do VIP. I asked for more details and she said $500 FS. I said no way. She asked how much I had, I told her $200. She agreed to BJ for $200. I asked for details, she convinced me it would be worth it. So I went for a 30 min VIP. At this point, it was 1:48 am. She did NOT deliver as she promised and she stopped right before 2 am. She just refused to do anything BB and she would not let me attempt a DATY. I pretty much got a 15 min HJ. Still, I politely tipped her $100 and she got mad. I told her she did not perform as promised so she tried to pull the "Let's go see the manager they have cameras in the VIP". I called her bluff and said, "OK! As I walk out she said, "Where are you going?" I told her, "To see the manager". She said, "You owe me $200 and there are cameras. " I said, "OK, let's go talk to the manager. I walked out, she did Not follow. So I left; after all, the place was closed. Kassandra is a Rob who will lie to get your $$ Keep away![/QUOTE]Wait, she didn't take your money at the start of the VIP? Every time I have gone VIP the dancer insisted on cash upfront.
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[QUOTE=StubbornMule;7019525]Wait, she didn't take your money at the start of the VIP? Every time I have gone VIP the dancer insisted on cash upfront.[/QUOTE]Dancers often ask me for money up front and I tell them that I pay at the end. I'll sometimes show her that I have money in my pocket. Rarely does a girl insist after I push back. If she does then I'm prepared to do a vanilla VIP with her.
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[QUOTE=StubbornMule;7019525]Wait, she didn't take your money at the start of the VIP? Every time I have gone VIP the dancer insisted on cash upfront.[/QUOTE]I have seen it both ways plenty. I won't go into the details of why that may be since it will make you sad to hear, but some girls strongly prefer money after.
Also, if a girl says to go to the manager (and I've had this before), it is a laughable bluff. She will never admit to extras in front of her manager, she will be fired that instant and he will telll her she's lucky he didn't call the cops (he wouldn't, for exactly the same reason). 100% she is not going to have that conversation.
You just say she didn't deliver, but do not say anything about promised acts. You paid your VIP fee everything else is a tip. Obviously. She cannot possibly say you promised to pay her for sex acts, and even if she did go that route (again, she never will) you simply say she never performed those acts. Is she going to confess and say nuh uh I did commit that crime now pay me?
So obviously she did nothing for you, you paid your VIP fee and that's all you owe her. Even if she said something legal you just say first of all no she didn't second of all I never said I'd tip for that.
Oh there are cameras on VIP? Okay, can I get a copy to bring home and watch? Bullshit an extras club is going to delete anything they do record of that so they don't go to jail in an open shut case. Cameras are for safety, not for their own prosecution.
One time a girl said where's my $200 after, I said I already paid her what we agreed. She said she did two things for me so I should pay her twice, which is a lie. She then escalates by saying I raped her out of nowhere (she gave me a hj while I did nothing at all lol). So I said okay, I don't need this money, here is $200 more and I'm going to talk to your manager about what you just said. First I went to the VIP cashier and said I want to speak to the manager, this girl says I raped her. Loudly so other dancers could hear. I then said to the manager's face "This girl says I raped her. I didn't. She demanded extra money. She is a liar and should be fired." As I was telling this out loud for everyone to hear, she marched up to me fast and slammed my money down and said here "Here, take it." She then turned around as fast as she could and left.
Now that I'm older I wouldn't have been confrontational. I just wouldn't have given the $200. But at that young age I dared her to have that convo with me in front of the manager. What a beggar, for just $200 she would do that.
I mean I really didn't need the money, it was just principle. I could have insisted "No you keep this $200 so I can keep badmouthing you this money means nothing to me but you will call someone a rapist for it" (100% my true feelings btw). But since she capitulated I didn't want to make a scene. It was a really wild and fun night until then, the club was very memorable. It was Mitchell Brothers O'Farrell Theatre in SF, now closed after Covid.
Never admit to anything, only describe in legal ways that she did not deserve a tip.
If anything, any video would show she sexually assaulted me. Watch the security footage of me laying back and enjoying a handjob from her for a tiny bit of money. Can I have a copy to jerk off to later?
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[QUOTE=CaseyX;7019543]Dancers often ask me for money up front and I tell them that I pay at the end. I'll sometimes show her that I have money in my pocket. Rarely does a girl insist after I push back. If she does then I'm prepared to do a vanilla VIP with her.[/QUOTE]This is great advice that some should consider. If she insist for money upfront, either show, or tell her you're comfortable paying after. If she refuses, just get the vanilla VIP.
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Vee synn
Anyone know her rates or her menu.
Came from the cafe. Vee.
Also adore?? Black female??
Data or daty??
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Adore
[QUOTE=KingMg23;7019824]Anyone know her rates or her menu.
Came from the cafe. Vee.
Also adore?? Black female??
Data or daty??[/QUOTE]I went during the day in Mayish and Adore quoted me 700.
I would never pay that so I got another girl for 200.
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Belle synn
Anyone got any info on her she is petite been wanting to ask for a while but she ignores me everytime I go.
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Synn Daytime
Walk into synn today avoiding the Triple digit heat on my way back to the IE and damn if you thought the Temps were high today! Sheeesh they were nothing compared to these chicks prices.
Dream came by and chatted for a bit $500 next.
Went up to Fendi and was quoted $500 but was willing to go down to $350!
Chatted with Kat $150 for BJ no FS offered.
Cecilia was Gorgeous took her for a 3 for40 to warm up jr LOL.
Armani sat on my lap and introduced herself to jr and that's all I needed took her for a 15 min CBJ & FS tipped her $100 and she seemed ok with it! She gave me her number to discuss OTC.
Had a couple other chicks stop by but didn't part take sense I had already blew my load.
Blair said she doesn't do Extras.
Shay had huge sex appeal but boobs too shaggy for me.
Lilly was always a good choice when she went by Doja but she a little too chubby for me now.
Took Kat for a 3 for40 to end the day and off I went!
Anyone had Saweetie? Fantasy? Coco? Honey? Cleo? Kendall?
Any info would be much appreciated!! Happy Lapping Gents!!
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[QUOTE=EzDoesIt12;7025748]Walk into synn today avoiding the Triple digit heat on my way back to the IE and damn if you thought the Temps were high today! Sheeesh they were nothing compared to these chicks prices.
Dream came by and chatted for a bit $500 next.
Went up to Fendi and was quoted $500 but was willing to go down to $350!
Chatted with Kat $150 for BJ no FS offered.
Cecilia was Gorgeous took her for a 3 for40 to warm up jr LOL.
Armani sat on my lap and introduced herself to jr and that's all I needed took her for a 15 min CBJ & FS tipped her $100 and she seemed ok with it! She gave me her number to discuss OTC.
Had a couple other chicks stop by but didn't part take sense I had already blew my load.
Blair said she doesn't do Extras.
Shay had huge sex appeal but boobs too shaggy for me.
Lilly was always a good choice when she went by Doja but she a little too chubby for me now.
Took Kat for a 3 for40 to end the day and off I went!
Anyone had Saweetie? Fantasy? Coco? Honey? Cleo? Kendall?
Any info would be much appreciated!! Happy Lapping Gents!![/QUOTE]Did a 3 for40 with Saweetie. It was a very below average dance. She didn't take off her bottoms, and asked for a tip, so I didn't even ask about VIP. She just met her quota when she walked up to me, so maybe the lack of motivation was from that.
yeah fendi is delusional. She's really not that attractive to command prices like that. Maybe she thinks she mores attractive than she really is because she's very thin where there's a lot of slim thick girls. her face is 3/10
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Fendi is the worst. I cut off a regular dance with her when she wanted $20 just to touch. Big ego for a mid girl.
Sweetie is one to not bother with if you are not going VIP. And she'll expect a tip even on a clean VIP dance (which can still be a hot dance if she is in the mood).
[QUOTE=CocaCvs;7026001]Did a 3 for40 with Saweetie. It was a very below average dance. She didn't take off her bottoms, and asked for a tip, so I didn't even ask about VIP. She just met her quota when she walked up to me, so maybe the lack of motivation was from that.
yeah fendi is delusional. She's really not that attractive to command prices like that. Maybe she thinks she mores attractive than she really is because she's very thin where there's a lot of slim thick girls. her face is 3/10[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Roland2418;7026257]Fendi is the worst. I cut off a regular dance with her when she wanted $20 just to touch. Big ego for a mid girl.
Sweetie is one to not bother with if you are not going VIP. And she'll expect a tip even on a clean VIP dance (which can still be a hot dance if she is in the mood).[/QUOTE]Same, the moment a girl asks for money just to touch her in a lap dance, the dance is over. I'm doing the special to get to know a girl, and now I know all I need about her. She's not VIP worthy. Got that from Kaylani a while back, $20 just to touch.
Only way to stop this is to name them here. Thank you.
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Synn
Vee looks pretty damn hot! Dallas looks hot as-well? Diamond too, and Roxy!! Sunday night roll call. . . . . . What's the stories on these dancers? Comment the best you can. Thanks.
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[QUOTE=FruitCake;7026769]Vee looks pretty damn hot![/QUOTE]I've only met her once. Her approach line was "Hi, do you want to do a VIP?" I put her off because I had just arrived. She came back a little later and gave me the same line. "You want to dance?" is bad enough but pushing to go straight to the VIP without any interaction beforehand. Pretty much a turn off for me. Now maybe I missed out on a great experience in the back at a reasonable price. But I think it's unlikely. YMMV.
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[QUOTE=CaseyX;7026946]I've only met her once. Her approach line was "Hi, do you want to do a VIP?" I put her off because I had just arrived. She came back a little later and gave me the same line. "You want to dance?" is bad enough but pushing to go straight to the VIP without any interaction beforehand. Pretty much a turn off for me. Now maybe I missed out on a great experience in the back at a reasonable price. But I think it's unlikely. YMMV.[/QUOTE]Strip Club vibes seem very different than pre-covid. I have had the same experience. Either, "want a dance?" or the VIP line. Little to no small talk, and expecting a tip after an average dance. Doing less for more. I felt like girls put in a little more effort than they do now. Even in the VIP, they try and short change you 5-10 minutes as if they have another customer lined up when in reality, they bolt straight to the dressing room and chill there.
Anyone else notice girls working at multiple different clubs simultaneously? It's nothing new, but I feel as though I am seeing it more and more.
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[QUOTE=CaseyX;7026946]I've only met her once. Her approach line was "Hi, do you want to do a VIP?" I put her off because I had just arrived. She came back a little later and gave me the same line. "You want to dance?" is bad enough but pushing to go straight to the VIP without any interaction beforehand. Pretty much a turn off for me.[/QUOTE]It's a huge gamble there for sure. With one girl, it turned out that she was just stupid. She was great, very hot, anything allowed. But no sales skills, she gets by on being super hot and open. That's the exception though. You are taking a gamble if a girl doesn't have a good attitude from the start.