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Singing to Choir
[QUOTE=TruthSeaker; 1137770]Let me see if I understand this. You tipped. 6 and were still a few Jax lite? Since when did AMPs start getting 1. 7 and up for a massage. Is this the norm or am I just out of touch and too cheap? For those amounts I can find something on the high end FS scale. I would love to hear from the members on what is the norm. I know I have been way overcharged by one girl at Joans as compared to what other members have told me they donate, so I would love some input as to what is reasonable at an AMP.
Thanks[/QUOTE]I posted a response last night but it didn't take. If it comes through later, sorry for a double post. I posted a couple of weeks ago about this issue wondering why the costs of AMPs vs providers was so out of whack. For the right experience, it can be worth it but generally, no. The AMP experience is all over the place and most often doesn't compare with the better providers out there. My tipping is in line with Nohassles and that's why I only had. 6 to give. A few months ago, I was in a Tampa AMP and the girl was explaining how I had tipped her. 8 the last time I was there. I told her it was impossible because I had never tipped that much before to anyone. I may go a bit higher in this case but would have to be farting soap bubbles and walking rubbery-legged. The AMP advantage to me is the availability on short notice even though it's a crap shoot.
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The Routine
Does this sound familiar?
The massage is over and you lay down $30-$40. Immediately you get the pouty face followed by. Is that all you have for me? More pouty face this time with furled brow. This is followed shortly by the push from behind until you are out the door.
It is meant to make you feel guilty so next time you bring more money.
There are some superstars in the business who deserve $50+. Not for extras but because of the effort they put into the massage. I have encountered two such women in many years. Just like in any business, they let their performance do the talking. There was no need for a pouty face.
When the pouty face comes out, smile as big as you can and say. Maybe next time.
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Tipping
Alway's keep it simple. If the door fee is $50, $60, $80 ect: Alway's tip between $20 to $40 dollars depending on service and attitude. If F / S is included. Double the door fee.
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Such a Deal
[QUOTE=Exec Talent; 1138149]Does this sound familiar?
The massage is over and you lay down $30-$40. Immediately you get the pouty face followed by. Is that all you have for me? More pouty face this time with furled brow. This is followed shortly by the push from behind until you are out the door.
It is meant to make you feel guilty so next time you bring more money.
There are some superstars in the business who deserve $50+. Not for extras but because of the effort they put into the massage. I have encountered two such women in many years. Just like in any business, they let their performance do the talking. There was no need for a pouty face.
When the pouty face comes out, smile as big as you can and say. Maybe next time.[/QUOTE]I had one lady at an AMP in Tampa go bezerk when I gave her. 4 because my regular showed up after we got started and apparently told her that she got. 6 My regular got that because she earned it while the other did not. I'm wondering how many burgers she would have had to flip for that and I just had her prepare 1 lousy hot dog.
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Double the door fee
[QUOTE=Light6364;1138202]Alway's keep it simple. If the door fee is $50, $60, $80 ect: Alway's tip between $20 to $40 dollars depending on service and attitude. If F / S is included. Double the door fee.[/QUOTE]I personally don't go to an AMP for FS but are you trying to say that if you go to an AMP that has a $70 or $80 door fee and you get F / S, that you normally tip 1. 4 or 1. 8 on top making your visit cost 2. 10 to 2. 40? Thats insane.
And if thats true you are the type of guy thats destroying the tipping curve for the rest of us.
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Double the door fee? So 240 all together? No way!
This was the same issue I had with the Nuru place, for the same price you can get an escort to rub you down and do anything you want.
The tipping scale went like this in Jax (where most places have a. 70 door fee).
Massage with HE. 2.4 (depending on how great it was)
Massage topless with HE and lots of play. 6.
Massage with lip service. 8.
Massage with f / s. 1.
There were at least two places that offered the whole menu and were always happy with that scale and one of the two had girls that look like the fake pics that are put up in the ads here.
Here (and there) I put the tip on the table before anything starts. They know what to give you based on the tip. If they are lousy or don't come through, don't go there again. This has almost always worked out for me and avoids any awkwards conversations. All the transitions are nice and smooth. The only time this didn't work for me was with Kim at SS who I can't figure out.
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Tipping
My Daddy didn't have much money, but he taught me young that if you tip well in a restaurant, you get paid back in great dividends over time. When I walk into a restaurant today, servers almost fight over who gets to wait on me. I apply the same rule to an AMP. If I get great service, I tip bigger than most of my fellow Mongers would be comfortable tipping. In fact most would be angry with me.
If I get average service (which I am primarily concerned with the massage) , I will tip $40. If I get great service, the sky is the limit. There is one AMP I frequent where the ladies know me well and take care of me well. If there are two ladies available, I often get two working on me for the price of one. The ladies even give me gifts when I leave because the want me to come back. These ladies I tip between $80-140 (above and beyond the doors fee) , depending of the effort and results. It is kind of like Cheers."Sometimes you want to go where everybody knows your name and everybody's glad you came." They may not know my name. But they are always glad I came.
One guiding principle though is that the massage itself needs to be incredible.
WOF
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The tipping scale I believe in follows very closely to Caravaggio's, though it might go up to 1. 2 w / FS if really good. And I believe in giving better tips for above average service and / or attitude, particularly during the TS and massage time.
The problem with AMPs and WOF's suggestion on tipping is the girls change too often for that to be a viable approach. Just when I get to know a girl well, and she is giving me excellent service, she disappears, and I have to start the game all over again with some knew girl who doesn't know me from Barny the Constable or Jack the Ripper.
But one thing I don't put up with is girls trying to guilt me into, or flat out demand more money. I tell them flat out to shut it, that they are getting a lousy tip since their service sucked, or that they did an average (decent) job and get an average (decent) tip.
And I NEVER leave the tip out before the massage starts. Maybe I don't have as much fun with new girls, but I don't like to shell out a big tip and get nothing in return.
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Massage Connection
Has this place changed or still the same? I called yesterday and it seems that everyone except one or two are new. Just wondering if any of the new chicks offers great service. I love Latin woman.
Cheers
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Yes I have seen Laura!
Laura works at a mp on e. Colonial near dean Road. It's called a tender touch I believe. She gives a stellar massage w HJ for about 90 total. She is very passionate!
[QUOTE=Ftguy68; 1136315]Has anyone seen this Laura before? I know there are Laura's reviewed in this thread but can't figure out if it's the same one.
Thanks!
[url]http://orlando.backpage.com/TherapeuticMassage/relax-and-unwind-with-a-full-body-massage-and-a-free-body-scrub/1923041[/url][/QUOTE]
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Mamasan
[QUOTE=Putzy; 1138506]The tipping scale I believe in follows very closely to Caravaggio's, though it might go up to 1. 2 w / FS if really good. And I believe in giving better tips for above average service and / or attitude, particularly during the TS and massage time.
The problem with AMPs and WOF's suggestion on tipping is the girls change too often for that to be a viable approach. Just when I get to know a girl well, and she is giving me excellent service, she disappears, and I have to start the game all over again with some knew girl who doesn't know me from Barny the Constable or Jack the Ripper.
But one thing I don't put up with is girls trying to guilt me into, or flat out demand more money. I tell them flat out to shut it, that they are getting a lousy tip since their service sucked, or that they did an average (decent) job and get an average (decent) tip.
And I NEVER leave the tip out before the massage starts. Maybe I don't have as much fun with new girls, but I don't like to shell out a big tip and get nothing in return. [/QUOTE]The real secret is in the one constant (typically mamasan) who lets the "new" girls know that I'm one of the good guys. I've had the mamasan stand in the room with the new girl yaking in Korean for 2-3 minutes and I know she is saying "good customer, good tipper and rock his world so he keeps coming back.
WOF
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[QUOTE=EndGame;1137442]Visited this place on the recommendation of many and asked for Kim. The oriental man at the door said she was not available but may have been with another customer rather than not working. I drew Michelle, a thin caucasian lady with light brown hair and a pretty face. She indicated that she's been doing this for a decade and it showed in the massage; excellent. I like to have my cake and eat it too, tolerating lousy massages in a trade-off for HE. Had the cake and there were crumbs on my lap. She knows her way around a man's body and hit all my trouble spots. The downside was no TS as she had on tight jeans that functioned well as a chastity belt. Probably not by accident. She said (reluctantly) that she could change into something else but I didn't push it. Next time, for sure. Good head to toe action and on the flip, mutual massage with dueling topless and a great finish. I didn't know the menu and apparently committed a faux pas with a. 6 tip as this was apparently a few Jax light. Michelle said she was best friends with Kim and they do a 4 hands deal and the menu apparently expands. I'll push bravely on and find out more about this. She also said she just works afternoons 3 days a week so that may explain a lack of reviews on this lady. A bit new-agey but a very nice lady who, in spite of the 10 yrs experience claimed, looked in the mid to late 20's range.[/QUOTE]Visited Kim myself again yesterday, as always the massage is nothing to write home about, but she has a banging little body and all I can say is I've never had better tableshowers before. When I go there if kims not up I just leave.
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Candy
I just buy mamasan candy now and then and I get the same treatment as you with new girls without breaking the bank.
To be clear. When I leave the tip before hand for the first time with a girl I don't go for the biggest, I start on the low end and I'll work my way up on return visits if she exceeds expectations.
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Kim is worth a $100 tip.
I have seen her over the years working at different places and have always enjoyed my time with her. You are right, her table showers are awesome. She takes her time and works your body good. Her rack is enhanced but looks great. She is younger. 20's, and is very nice once you get to know her.
[QUOTE=Lexo1014;1138635]Visited Kim myself again yesterday, as always the massage is nothing to write home about, but she has a banging little body and all I can say is I've never had better tableshowers before. When I go there if kims not up I just leave.[/QUOTE]
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Tipping
I have my own policy. If there is only a massage with no HE, thein depending on quality I leave 20-25. If I get an HE, then I will leave 40-50 depending on quality. Once in a while I will leave 60 but it has to be great. I do not look for FS and I do not ask. There are other places for that.