Rants, Raves and Opinions AKA "The Octagon"

[QUOTE=LusciousLips;2569031]Ok, I'm beginning to understand the username you chose. Please read my entire response before, once again, posting your assumptions. You do know what they say about people who make assumptions. Exactly!!

Let's try this again my fine gossiping friend with entirely too much time on his hands. Read this response Slowly, maybe it will sink in this time, and then, unless you have Facts, as in I set you up, or you have inside knowledge of someone I set-up, Leave me ALONE! I also asked in my last post for any men I have hurt or wronged to please speak up, and again crickets. No men accusing me of anything, just you, someone I have never met!!

Ok, here we go, remember, read slowly!! There were 2 sisters operating out of Goshen, Loveland and advertising here, on USA. They were seeing clients in a very heavily patroled apartment complex in the middle of a small town. The area became hot. I moved. Once again, get a hobby, for Christ sake, Go SEE a girl, anything! Just leave me alone, You do not know me![/QUOTE]Were you, LusciousLips, the provider who formerly posted as Tiffanyn30? This is not a difficult question.

When I was young (er) I had stories like this! I still have them, I just pay to make them a reality.

[QUOTE=NdayGuy;2579213]When I was young I would sit on the pot and read stories like that in Playboy. Glad to see you enjoyed yourself.[/QUOTE]

Put up a few request in ISO thread. I got good responses to my request through PM's. After sending back answers and exchanging ideals and wishes I narrowed it down to just a few. It ended up being a waste of time, it would be days in between return PM's and two in particular I gave my number to and other information that was asked for for verification up to a certain point, I'm not going to just dish out everything about myself to someone I have not even meet with yet. I was always very polite and gave clear answers to the questions that were asked. I even had respect enough to message the ones back that I chose not to pursuit thanking them for responding to my ISO. In the end the ones I liked the most wanted X amount of references. I admitted from the outset that I have not played very much since starting the hobby and the only one I see with any regularity has made it clear that she does not want here information given out. I strive to be as safe as possible in all of this but short of putting all my personal info out for all to see what the hell is there left to do. Playing the back and forth game is a waste of time and wears me out. If you don't want to actually proceed then don't pm. Or at least respond in some sort of timely manor, I don't think that's to much to ask.

But I'd be shocked if an ISO actually yielded anything worthwhile. Once one gets a few regulars going I would think it would be worked through them. I've gotten access to high dollar hotties because I was vouched by a provider that recommended them to me after I mentioned what I was looking for. I'm not putting down the whole ISO thing, but really. In this activity and ISO is the equivalent of throwing up a flair. It's just a last ditch effort. That isn't likely to result in much IMHO.

[QUOTE=Roman97;2580996]Put up a few request in ISO thread. I got good responses to my request through PM's. After sending back answers and exchanging ideals and wishes I narrowed it down to just a few. It ended up being a waste of time, it would be days in between return PM's and two in particular I gave my number to and other information that was asked for for verification up to a certain point, I'm not going to just dish out everything about myself to someone I have not even meet with yet. I was always very polite and gave clear answers to the questions that were asked. I even had respect enough to message the ones back that I chose not to pursuit thanking them for responding to my ISO. In the end the ones I liked the most wanted X amount of references. I admitted from the outset that I have not played very much since starting the hobby and the only one I see with any regularity has made it clear that she does not want here information given out. I strive to be as safe as possible in all of this but short of putting all my personal info out for all to see what the hell is there left to do. Playing the back and forth game is a waste of time and wears me out. If you don't want to actually proceed then don't pm. Or at least respond in some sort of timely manor, I don't think that's to much to ask.[/QUOTE]

See'Mon. Lugnutz. She's clearly passing the pepsi challenge right now and has pretty good reviews. What difference does it make? If things go bad, it will show up here.

[QUOTE=Lugnutz;2580351]Were you, LusciousLips, the provider who formerly posted as Tiffanyn30? This is not a difficult question.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Glockman;2576401]This is Annabelle, a Memphis MILF with a stated age of 29. A tiny girl but very muscular. Her hobby is kick boxing and I'm sure she could kick the shit out of me. Luckily I stayed on her good side! And she swallows.[/QUOTE]Need to find a customer in Memphis.

Been in the hobby now three years or so and have seen many really nice professional girls. Had my first no show today. Got to the location and the texts stopped being returned. I guess it was inevitable that my good luck would end. It's frustrating wasting time and in other more painful ways. Ladies, if something comes up and you need to cancel, that's fine, just have the courtesy and professionalism to let your client know. I always make sure I keep my provider aware of scheduling changes. OK, I feel better. I still want to see the girl, so I.

'm going to try again. I know, I now, I'm being a glutton for punishment, but she's really cute. I guess its the little head overriding the big one. Be safe guys and gals.

I'm glad someone said something about this. And best part, none other than queen Ally ;).

I am tired of it as well and can only hope sanity and common sense will prevail. On a separate note, totally irrelevant to this awesome site, same shit happens on BP. E. g. , Starr is spamming that site like crazy with a new ad every 2 seconds. LOL.

[QUOTE=SinfulDreams;2583018]Is there a particular reason why so many ads of the same girl need to be placed?? I don't get it. And I can tell you the guys don't care for it also, and in the long run that is who you are trying to impress. Remember that when you are placing numerous ads, and yes I know not all of us are great at spelling and grammar, but can you use spell check? In this business you want to show yourself as an educated professional. Saying add instead of ad, and CUM in big bold letters doesn't do it. If you want to just be that girl who is a revolving door, and you don't care, then by all means keep doing what you are doing. But, if you want to make a great profession at this, like several of us have, then clean it up a bit.

As far as the multiple ads, I promise you if you just do one, it will stand out versus multiple that they will just scroll past. Just a bit of advice whether you take it or not.

Rant over.[/QUOTE]

Taking this to the octagon as there been provider on this board asking about Voyeurism. And all I get from my I. S. O. Is that providers 85% for the most part want full donation or double the donation because it would be myself a female friend who wants to watch. For the exception of Candice. I mostly have been going thru craigslist and the cheviot show couple. And backpage and having to weed thru that monkey farm to find what I want. I just confused that more providers do not clearly list this service? And at a price that is fair for the service render. It like in the movie fields of dreams, build it and they will come? Hope fully this will start a forum that perhaps shed some light on me on why this is happening.

[QUOTE=ChickaAmante;2583282]I'm glad someone said something about this. And best part, none other than queen Ally ;).

I am tired of it as well and can only hope sanity and common sense will prevail. On a separate note, totally irrelevant to this awesome site, same shit happens on BP. E. g. , Starr is spamming that site like crazy with a new ad every 2 seconds. LOL.[/QUOTE]I remember a while back that the famous Fab 4 where there posted so many ads. Like four pages full before you seen another providers. But it much better now. But still a pain in the ass. Don't think running more ads equates to getting more business. But try telling that to some providers.

[QUOTE=SinfulDreams;2583018]Is there a particular reason why so many ads of the same girl need to be placed?? I don't get it. And I can tell you the guys don't care for it also, and in the long run that is who you are trying to impress. Remember that when you are placing numerous ads, and yes I know not all of us are great at spelling and grammar, but can you use spell check? In this business you want to show yourself as an educated professional. Saying add instead of ad, and CUM in big bold letters doesn't do it. If you want to just be that girl who is a revolving door, and you don't care, then by all means keep doing what you are doing. But, if you want to make a great profession at this, like several of us have, then clean it up a bit.

As far as the multiple ads, I promise you if you just do one, it will stand out versus multiple that they will just scroll past. Just a bit of advice whether you take it or not.

Rant over.[/QUOTE]What She Said! Couldn't have been said better.

While Backpage tries and figure things out with Visa some girls like to now put up 5 or 6 at a time. I know one girl in particular.

And it's so annoying.

[QUOTE=JSmith90;2583413]What She Said! Couldn't have been said better.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=FirstHalf;2581849]See'Mon. Lugnutz. She's clearly passing the pepsi challenge right now and has pretty good reviews. What difference does it make? If things go bad, it will show up here.[/QUOTE]And as far as I know, guys who've seen LusciousLips lately seem to have had a good time.

It's interesting, however, that she won't answer the one simple question, which is whether she used to be Tiffanyn30. Why she won't answer this may also be interesting.

I don't spend a lot of time here anymore, because I really don't get much out of it. However, I'm pursuing this on the principle that a provider who has ever cooperated with LEO should not get business from us. One reason is that plenty of providers have been popped over time and never turned, so why support one who did?

If LL is indeed the artist formerly known as Tiffanyn30, then I did see her at one point last year. I was not one of the guys who got stung subsequently in Goshen. I did PM with a "friend" of one who did get stung, who had a lot of credible details. And unlike most rumors of provider / LEO activity, there was documentary evidence to support what he said, given the charges brought against five guys for soliciting in Goshen last August.

It would be helpful if one of the guys who got popped would provide details here. It is, after all, an anonymous forum if you use it sensibly, and there's additional safety in numbers given that there were five of you. But, I haven't seen that happen yet.

Just hypothetically, I would say just because a provider cooperated with LEO once doesn't mean she will again. I'm sure she fulfilled her end of the bargain. However, I don't think she should get our business in the future for a couple of reasons. One, if she gets popped again, the same thing is likely to happen. Two, it's the principle. However much contempt we may feel for one another (and, certainly, I feel a fair amount for many here) we are all brothers in a sense. We cum from the same wombs, so to speak. If we patronize a provider who participated in setting up other mongers, it sends a pretty bad message that this sort of behavior will be tolerated. I'm not of the school that snitches should meet with violence or other forms of illegal payback. Shunning and boycotts, however, are another story.

[QUOTE=FirstHalf;2581849]See'Mon. Lugnutz. She's clearly passing the pepsi challenge right now and has pretty good reviews. What difference does it make? If things go bad, it will show up here.[/QUOTE]And as far as I know, guys who've seen LusciousLips lately seem to have had a good time.

It's interesting, however, that she won't answer the one simple question, which is whether she used to be Tiffanyn30. Why she won't answer this may also be interesting.

I don't spend a lot of time here anymore, because I really don't get much out of it. However, I'm pursuing this on the principle that a provider who has ever cooperated with LEO should not get business from us. One reason is that plenty of providers have been popped over time and never turned, so why support one who did?

If LL is indeed the artist formerly known as Tiffanyn30, then I did see her at one point last year. I was not one of the guys who got stung subsequently in Goshen. I did PM with a "friend" of one who did get stung, who had a lot of credible details. And unlike most rumors of provider / LEO activity, there was documentary evidence to support what he said, given the charges brought against five guys for soliciting in Goshen last August.

It would be helpful if one of the guys who got popped would provide details here. It is, after all, an anonymous forum if you use it sensibly, and there's additional safety in numbers given that there were five of you. But, I haven't seen that happen yet.

Just hypothetically, I would say just because a provider cooperated with LEO once doesn't mean she will again. I'm sure she fulfilled her end of the bargain. However, I don't think she should get our business in the future for a couple of reasons. One, if she gets popped again, the same thing is likely to happen. Two, it's the principle. However much contempt we may feel for one another (and, certainly, I feel a fair amount for many here) we are all brothers in a sense. We cum from the same wombs, so to speak. If we patronize a provider who participated in setting up other mongers, it sends a pretty bad message that this sort of behavior will be tolerated. I'm not of the school that snitches should meet with violence or other forms of illegal payback. Shunning and boycotts, however, are another story.