Non Pro's

[QUOTE=DrtyHarry;5933332]... Sorry this happened to you bro, but I have always been super careful about my identity with hookers or SA. They think I am sharing a lot because I have well rehearsed stories, but none of them are true although they all sound very convincing and realistic. I actually love pillow talk between rounds, and have well rehearsed stories that I have used for years. Funny thing is, even if it is not true, if you say it enough times, you actually sound pretty convincing. Either way. Sorry this happened to you, but you seem to have handled it very well after the fact.[/QUOTE]I am pretty careful with my personal info, and my accounts are set up carefully to make sure something like this can't happen or get very far. Can't give out all the details here, but everything is locked down pretty tight by default and anything that is out of pattern for me that isn't previously arranged causes alarms to go off and things to lock down. And to resolve it I have to physically show up at an office to clear everything up. Yes, it can be a pain in the ass.

What throws me about this was I didn't share a lot of personal info, and she came across as pretty legit. She claimed she worked for Cisco, had business cards for Cisco on her luggage tags and a lanyard badge. She also dropped names of people I knew and knew of in that world. The only thing I can think of is that her phone died a couple of times and she borrowed mine and used that to sneak some piece of spyware onto my phone. However, both of the times she did that she did so right in front of me and made a phone call (once on speaker) to her "manager" which sounded like business and didn't mention me at all. Later on when Goldman Sachs security and some feds interviewed me (it was an awkward if friendly interview) I got the impression that she had done this quite a few times before with a similar MO and gotten away clean each time. The major difference with me is that she didn't get away with any money, well other than the $500 or so I gifted her for each night we spent together and a couple hundred bucks spent at the hotel store.

Her description: she was about 5'10", really slender (maybe 125 lbs), late 20's (she claimed 27), blonde hair, bright green eyes. She said her parents were Swedish but she grew up in Texas. Southern accent that sounded legit, but I got the impression from the investigators that she had other accents she used as well.

From what the investigators said, most of her victims were guys working in the tech industry. Most of them were married and pretty high up the executive chain and apparently weren't as paranoid as I am. I can't know but this might have started as some kind of industrial espionage operation but they went indy.

The moral of the story is that there are some scary bad people operating in this world and you need to watch your ass.

Sharing with the community but understand that maybe I got lucky. Anyways I have done sa before a cpl times but wanted to try something new so I joined secretbenefits. Bought a $169 package of credits. Used them all quickly. I had replied to girls messages and sent a bunch with no engagement back which was odd considering many were from people who messaged me first. I decided to just delete my profile and when I emailed them to delete it I mentioned it felt like they were scamming me and without me even asking, they refunded me fully and deleted my profile. Not sure why this was done but maybe a good way to try it and then get your money back. Good luck.

[QUOTE=MarkoRamius;5933672]I am pretty careful with my personal info, and my accounts are set up carefully to make sure something like this can't happen or get very far. Can't give out all the details here, but everything is locked down pretty tight by default and anything that is out of pattern for me that isn't previously arranged causes alarms to go off and things to lock down. And to resolve it I have to physically show up at an office to clear everything up. Yes, it can be a pain in the ass.

What throws me about this was I didn't share a lot of personal info, and she came across as pretty legit. She claimed she worked for Cisco, had business cards for Cisco on her luggage tags and a lanyard badge. She also dropped names of people I knew and knew of in that world. The only thing I can think of is that her phone died a couple of times and she borrowed mine and used that to sneak some piece of spyware onto my phone. However, both of the times she did that she did so right in front of me and made a phone call (once on speaker) to her "manager" which sounded like business and didn't mention me at all. Later on when Goldman Sachs security and some feds interviewed me (it was an awkward if friendly interview) I got the impression that she had done this quite a few times before with a similar MO and gotten away clean each time. The major difference with me is that she didn't get away with any money, well other than the $500 or so I gifted her for each night we spent together and a couple hundred bucks spent at the hotel store.

Her description: she was about 5'10", really slender (maybe 125 lbs), late 20's (she claimed 27), blonde hair, bright green eyes. She said her parents were Swedish but she grew up in Texas. Southern accent that sounded legit, but I got the impression from the investigators that she had other accents she used as well..[/QUOTE]Man, sorry you had to go through all that. It definitely makes me not want to see an unknown provider, unknown in terms to me not having any session with her. Your post is an excellent tutorial on this issue.

This one was quite agreeable to my arrangement overtures. Then she stated she needs $400 by Thursday for her hair extension appointment (white girls get hair extensions? Private pics are hot. $400 for ppm wouldn't be bad but I suspect she wants you to send her $400. She is setting off my scam radar but maybe I'm too skittish. I'm sure one of you can take a chance, "see what happens". LOL.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/f315aea1-24cb-493d-8e91-b3269a1dba5d[/URL]

[QUOTE=PoonHound1969;5932627]If anyone has a suggestion please share.[/QUOTE]Damn it now my original SB, can't make it.

Now I need to hunt out something new.

Sorry, this intel is old news as she hasn't been active in 6 weeks. I chatted with her earlier this year as she seemed right up my alley. She asked me my ppm, I said $400 and she replied she'd expect $800. No thanks, I've had younger and hotter for half that.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/3e18e52a-8b1c-416f-bd71-b90601da8dd3[/URL]

As I've mentioned in other posts I'm not a fan of Secret Benefits. But if you are on there this one might be worth your credits.

[URL]https://www.secretbenefits.com/next/profile/5e03bf6737b01104[/URL]

This isn't a timely review. I met her in late 2020 when she was active on Seeking. She doesn't seem to be active on Seeking now but is on SB. I chatted with her on there a couple months ago. Can't vouch for how she looks now but she was a good deal less fit than her old pics and profile indicated. That said was certainly interesting, very forward and talked a big game at meet and greet. A few days later we had a hotel date, $300, never mentioned a condom (I don't ask in advance) so busted in her raw. Not a bad time but she didn't quite do it for me and I never repeated. One could do worse.

[QUOTE=BugManLet;5934236]This one was quite agreeable to my arrangement overtures. Then she stated she needs $400 by Thursday for her hair extension appointment (white girls get hair extensions? Private pics are hot. $400 for ppm wouldn't be bad but I suspect she wants you to send her $400. She is setting off my scam radar but maybe I'm too skittish. I'm sure one of you can take a chance, "see what happens". LOL.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/f315aea1-24cb-493d-8e91-b3269a1dba5d[/URL][/QUOTE]Tell her you have her hair extensions at home on layaway. If she comes over right now and works for it, she can have her extensions. Alternatively a young girl like herself should have other old fat men she can milk for the money. That would be my response.

[QUOTE=WalterWhite99;5933914]Man, sorry you had to go through all that. It definitely makes me not want to see an unknown provider, unknown in terms to me not having any session with her. Your post is an excellent tutorial on this issue.[/QUOTE]Known or unknown, I like to say that the nicer SB / provider is an emergency away (. I. e. Sick kid) from becoming a blackmailer.

Protect you identity at all cost.

[QUOTE=MarkoRamius;5933672]I am pretty careful with my personal info, and my accounts are set up carefully to make sure something like this can't happen or get very far. Can't give out all the details here, but everything is locked down pretty tight by default and anything that is out of pattern for me that isn't previously arranged causes alarms to go off and things to lock down. And to resolve it I have to physically show up at an office to clear everything up. Yes, it can be a pain in the ass.

What throws me about this was I didn't share a lot of personal info, and she came across as pretty legit. She claimed she worked for Cisco, had business cards for Cisco on her luggage tags and a lanyard badge. She also dropped names of people I knew and knew of in that world. The only thing I can think of is that her phone died a couple of times and she borrowed mine and used that to sneak some piece of spyware onto my phone. However, both of the times she did that she did so right in front of me and made a phone call (once on speaker) to her "manager" which sounded like business and didn't mention me at all. Later on when Goldman Sachs security and some feds interviewed me (it was an awkward if friendly interview) I got the impression that she had done this quite a few times before with a similar MO and gotten away clean each time. The major difference with me is that she didn't get away with any money, well other than the $500 or so I gifted her for each night we spent together and a couple hundred bucks spent at the hotel store.

Her description: she was about 5'10", really slender (maybe 125 lbs), late 20's (she claimed 27), blonde hair, bright green eyes. She said her parents were Swedish but she grew up in Texas. Southern accent that sounded legit, but I got the impression from the investigators that she had other accents she used as well.

From what the investigators said, most of her victims were guys working in the tech industry. Most of them were married and pretty high up the executive chain and apparently weren't as paranoid as I am. I can't know but this might have started as some kind of industrial espionage operation but they went indy.

The moral of the story is that there are some scary bad people operating in this world and you need to watch your ass.[/QUOTE]All I can say is that I am sorry you went through this ordeal after being so careful. I guess at the end of the day none of us are really "safe" within reason. Glad you managed to shut it down, but really if my financial broker and FBI got involved. I would be pretty miffed. She seems like a really experienced person and given her description, she sounds fucking hot.

[QUOTE=DelToro;5934524]Known or unknown, I like to say that the nicer SB / provider is an emergency away (. I. e. Sick kid) from becoming a blackmailer.

Protect you identity at all cost.[/QUOTE]I don't know if I would play in this space if I thought I had any risk of being blackmailed. Honestly it would be hilarious if somebody threatened to out my hobby activities to my employer. And I'm not married.

Her profile reads as a stg ad.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/42dbd1ec-e7b2-4251-900e-da1947a43b12[/URL]

[QUOTE=PoonHound1969;5936209]Her profile reads as a stg ad.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/42dbd1ec-e7b2-4251-900e-da1947a43b12[/URL][/QUOTE]I applaud koochie's no-nonsense approach to the site and I wish other women were as direct. Having said that I could not agree with you more. She is going be flagged soon. Good find.

Sweetlammy.
[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/8885b0e1-2cc0-4e01-af3e-f85e1c7b8436[/URL]
Scammer, openly offered 1 hr raw for $250, the catch is that she requested half in advance through cashapp.

LizyMMo.
[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/20d28a4b-309c-4d0a-993c-5d4a5a3c5c30[/URL]
Time waster, stood me up twice for a first meeting in West Seattle with the pain that is to get there.

Redspyze.
[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/24ea388c-6e81-4d94-9bd2-9c313c52b061[/URL]
Time waster and a scammer, had a couple of hours of steamy chatting to end up requesting money in advance for the nanny to be able to meet.

StunningMizz
https://members.seeking.com/member/3523468b-2dc6-4998-9f6a-8d20c51912c6
Picture Seller

LisaMarie
https://members.seeking.com/member/33faa263-bfff-40e2-a6d6-9413727c4295
A bit of a time waster. She is legit. I met her at a nice lobby bar in downtown. She said she was just testing the waters, that was like three months ago. I reached this week an according to her she has not gone all the way with anybody yet and she is not sure if she will but she loves the attention she gets on the site

[QUOTE=DrtyHarry;5937176]I applaud koochie's no-nonsense approach to the site and I wish other women were as direct. Having said that I could not agree with you more. She is going be flagged soon. Good find.[/QUOTE]Actually, not a good find. I tried to meet her about a year ago. She was on STG. I posted about it here when it happened, but basically:

We scheduled a car date at (I could be off on the time) 9:30. I had a very, very small window of time. I contacted her about an hour beforehand she told me where to meet her at. About 20 minutes before my arrival, I contacted her and told her I was 20 minutes away. During that conversation, she tried to raise the price of the date by $20-30 (for a BJ, she wanted to upsell to a "better" BJ). I was ready to cancel and go home, but when she got the impression I was ready to bail, she decided that original price she stated was fine.

So, I get to the location about 5 minutes earlier than planned and called her. She said she was there waiting for me, I looked around and didn't see her. I told her that and she said, "Oh, you're there already, I'll be there in 20 minutes". So, I drove around Renton for 20 minutes. I called her after 20 minutes and she once again said she was at the meeting spot. I drove around looking for her and saw no one. She then had me go to a second meeting spot where she was at. When I went there, she had me go to another location where she said she was at (all like a block away from each other). I call her again and she told me to stay at the third location and she would be right there. Well, Renton Police were also hanging out nearby and being a car sitting in the empty lot of a closed business didn't look good. 10 minutes later, I call her and she said, "I'll be there in 5 minutes. ".

At that point, it was about 45 minutes after the time were supposed to meet, so I said, "fuck this" and left. As I was driving off, a very, very large woman was standing there chatting with a man about a block from the where we were supposed to meet. She leaves him standing there and starts walking over to the meeting spot. It was her. She was much larger than advertised and I was pissed that she's hanging out chatting with someone when she's already 45 minutes late.

She then calls me and starts screaming that I'm a game player and she was depending on that money and that I fucked her over. I told her she was 45 minutes late and I didn't have time to wait any longer. I then got text after text saying she was an idiot to depend on me showing up because she knew that I wouldn't. More texts calling me an asshole and that she doesn't leave her place until I show up because of people like me. More name calling, etc. ,. Until I blocked her.