[QUOTE=NoFearToTry;6081853]Zen on hall by 7-11 ?[/QUOTE]Yeah next to 711 no luck there. I'm only 5 minutes away. No extras for me so far.
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[QUOTE=NoFearToTry;6081853]Zen on hall by 7-11 ?[/QUOTE]Yeah next to 711 no luck there. I'm only 5 minutes away. No extras for me so far.
[QUOTE=BillJ1984;6080312]If we let them do that next is 20 dollars and then 30 dollars. They need our business we got the power. These granny's think they can rip us off and call the shots. Nope not going to happen to me.[/QUOTE]It's not the girls that are raising the house fee, but the owners. Depending on the place, the girl might not get any of the house fee and is only working for tips. The rising tip fee is the girls though.
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[QUOTE=MeeLikeeAsians;6083895]Have been to ZFM at least 2 dozen times and never left without extras. This is a prime example of the YMMV concept in this hobby. If the lady doesn't want to provide extras to a particular customer, she's not going to even if it means she misses out on some extra tip money.Not every worker at a AMP is desperate and money hungry.[/QUOTE]I'm not as verbal as most of you, I've met several good people. One thing in common is that, they all have their bottom line. As mentioned previously a lot of it has to do with the customers attitude. If you're an asshole they'll just process you out the door as quickly as possible. Most of them have become, it not a little callous a good judge of character. What they do and how they act is totally up to them. One thing perhaps you're not aware of is that they're very touchy about being looked down upon. So go in there pleasant and respectful perhaps things will change for you. What you do and how people act is none of my business I just throw in my 2 cents.
It's been a couple years now since I went in but ZFM was a sure thing for me every time. I never tried for bareback but Jasmine was always down to fuck.
[QUOTE=BarqBiter;6084111]It's been a couple years now since I went in but ZFM was a sure thing for me every time. I never tried for bareback but Jasmine was always down to fuck.[/QUOTE]Any advice for me? I still can't seal the deal LOL.
[QUOTE=Trumpeter;6083587]It's not the girls that are raising the house fee, but the owners. Depending on the place, the girl might not get any of the house fee and is only working for tips. The rising tip fee is the girls though.[/QUOTE]The price of everything is going up, so we shouldn't be surprised if more spas raise their rates to 50/70. We should be complaining about the necessities we need to live being overly expensive now, not complaining because we're paying an extra $10 for an extracurricular activity. If guys don't like the prices or can't afford the expensive hobby then they should rub one out at home and save the $100-$150, or choose a cheaper hobby like bird watching.
[QUOTE=Dexxzy;6067256]Anyone been to the place near SE 160th and Glisan (Red Star) recently? Saw Amy a few times, but I think she's gone now.[/QUOTE]I did a recon recently. Attractive MILF showing some boob with a great smile. She called out the other girl that was taller and slimmer and she looked good too. Recon only I didn't have a session.
[QUOTE=NoFearToTry;6081853]Zen on hall by 7-11 ?[/QUOTE]I know the owner, she he works very hard and extras are available if you are generous. She is also licensed and probably gives the best massage in town. You just need to be nice.
[QUOTE=PaulPdx;6075546]Long time / First time. I thought I should contribute. I went to Sweet Spa in Vancouver (it's been mentioned here several times recently). 2 girls working when I was there.
The lady I saw was nice looking and around 35 yr old with good English. .[/QUOTE]Last week I happened to be in the area and thought I would check out the new girl. I was met by a mid 40's attractive provider with a nice smile. She came over to give me a hug and I returned the same noticing she was wearing body armor under her shorts. My guess is no chance for FS at this shop. The rate is 60/60 now but 50/30.
I recently stated that most of the places I have been to are now 50 and 70 for 30/60 minutes. After seeing some posts, I decided to do a survey. I rarely go to Vancouver so I did not include any of those shops. These are all in Oregon, specifically Portland metro.
40/60.
Aurora, Division.
Angel, Hall.
Blue Ocean, Division.
Healing Touch, 82nd.
50/60.
Blue Rose, Powell.
Joy, Barbur.
50/70.
1 Feug Qi, Powell.
2. Asian Rain, McLoughlin.
3. Skylight, Barbur.
4. Sunny, Cornell.
5. Sunny, Hwy 99.
6. Lucky, Naito.
7. EZ, Park.
8. Zen, Hall.
9. Barbur, Barbur.
10 Elemental, Boones.
11 Lucky, Cornell.
12 Foot, Hwy 99 (Across from JoAnn fabrics).
13 Red Star, Glisan.
14 Relax, Oregon City.
15 2 spa, Mcloughlin.
15 Q Wellness, Hwy 99.
16 Asian Rain. Mcloughlin.
17 Yi Chi, 82nd.
18 Green Tea, Mcloughlin.
19 Yoyo, Willamette.
20 Nice Day, Boones.
21 Foot Heaven, Harrison.
22 Message Magic, Foster.
23 Foot Body, BiMart parking lot, Oregon City.
24 Message Magic, 82nd.
As you can see, the majority of the places are charging 50/70.
I'm ok with this, just like I'm ok with spending 20 extra dollars to double my time.
I've had FS at 2/3 of these shops.
[QUOTE=BillJ1984;6084335]Any advice for me? I still can't seal the deal LOL.[/QUOTE]I kinda worked up to it with her over a couple of sessions but I found that when she straddled my head to rub my back, she was receptive to me reaching up her skirt and grabbing her ass, and then rubbing her pussy. Then she got on the table with me and made out with me for a while, and then started pulling my dick towards her crotch. After that session she was pretty much game whenever I showed up.
Usual advice about being clean (or at least not smelly), polite, pleasant, not too grabby, etc.
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[QUOTE=VacMaster;6085909]I know the owner, she he works very hard and extras are available if you are generous. She is also licensed and probably gives the best massage in town. You just need to be nice.[/QUOTE]Idk the 5 times went over there I was super nice and very generous. I showed up on time, clean and I still got a terrible massage with a jack hammer finish. Made my guy swell, had to put ice on it.
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