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If you really have a kindred spirit, teach the women PROPER English so they learn something that can assist them in the future. I love watching mongers out on dates with AMP girls talking like mouthfull pre schoolers on a day trip. Teach them English those who actually can spell and command the language. The rest of the illiterate average ones can just continue with grunts and hand jestures because you will only be a customer anyway. LOL
[QUOTE=Smoke & Mirrors;1176178]If you really have a kindred spirit, teach the women PROPER English so they learn something that can assist them in the future. I love watching mongers out on dates with AMP girls talking like mouthfull pre schoolers on a day trip. Teach them English those who actually can spell and command the language. The rest of the illiterate average ones can just continue with grunts and hand jestures because you will only be a customer anyway. LOL[/QUOTE]Smoke'? Have you been out and about, seeing Batgirl, without her mask on? On dates?
Anyone breakout there IPhone translator app yet?
"Teaching english"brought back a memory of a session I had with Alice. She told me she liked talking to me because I used new words and expressions for her to learn but unfortunately she left town before we could have a few more lessons.
Connie from Pleasant, as moody and temper-mental she may have come across to some, was quite articulate and had excellent command of the spoken word.
[QUOTE=AsianLPGAfan; 1176370]Smoke'? Have you been out and about, seeing Batgirl, without her mask on? On dates?
Anyone breakout there IPhone translator app yet?
"Teaching english"brought back a memory of a session I had with Alice. She told me she liked talking to me because I used new words and expressions for her to learn but unfortunately she left town before we could have a few more lessons.
Connie from Pleasant, as moody and temper-mental she may have come across to some, was quite articulate and had excellent command of the spoken word. [/QUOTE]I always try and teach the girls new words. They seem interested and intriqued and are usually very attentive and receptive towards it. Most of them are hard on themselves. For example I recently asked one of the girls for her phone number and she replied "but I don"t speak englsh very well and you"ll get angry with me when we talk". I assured her I would be very patient and would love to be her english teacher. Now as far as dialect and pronunciation I believe this is an entirely different matter. We all know the V always comes out as the B but I'm not sure we will turn this around any time quick. One of the words I teach all of them is "intimacy". When I can't explain it with words I teach demonstratively with soft hugs and gentle caresses, that sort of thing. They nod their head and smile and tell me how most guys grab them and are rough and they appreciate the gentlemen. Some of their english is so bad however it can be very frustrating trying to communicate and teach them at all.
Michelle is 26 and has been a spa girl for 8 months and is based out of Las Vegas now, having entered the USA 2 yrs back and lived in Los Angeles previously. She's 5-4 but looks taller and maybe 120 lbs or so, almost a medium build, pushing the 8 range, has nice look, and her skin is golden brown. I got a showup with new girls Michelle, Pink, and Gina, one after the other over 5 to 10 minutes or so, and apparently all 3 are non-smokers, and can confirm Michelle for sure.
Now the (older) mamasan believes her to be a cross between Jackie and Coco, which of couse is not really true, but she apparently meant she had Coco's skin tone. She's on the hot side for sure, but not that level. Any girl that was actually a cross between Coco and Jackie, would have no need to work in a spa or work anywhere else for that matter, if she so chose.
She said she learned English from her hispanic-american boyfriend, that she was with for 8 or 9 months before starting in the business, but he's tied up now for 10 years min (with good behavior that is) Michelle comes across very sweet, nice personality, one of the more feminine girls I've encountered, and its was a huge turn-on to me. Her voice, ultra feminine personality, and just the way she carries herself, just all very nice. She has a few tatoos, not huge but of course not typical for most spa girls.
She let it go sort of a passive GFE, more one way, so I cannot say real kissing, but pretty close, obviously a no-kiss girl at some level. Real good conversation and just alot being with her. DATY ok with her, her feminine charm such a turn-on I couldn't resist in her case.
I recall in Oct of 2009 right before the law change, and they gave me a showup of at least 6 or 7 girls (many high 6's and 7's) and there was only maybe hot, and they even looked a bit worn. To me at least, the quality seems to have gotten better, as once again they can bring in 3 brand new girls, all pushing 8, each one would be one of the hottest girls elsewhere around town. They say the (younger) Mamasan has something to do with getting all these hot girls in. She's doing a pretty good job I think.
So after having read about AMPs on this forum, I thought I'd take the plunge. Normally I'm not into asian, but a couple weeks ago I got the craving. Have been to OS twice now, both good experiences. The first time I saw "Bea".5'9", very pretty nice B cups. Gave a great TS and a really good massage which I was in need of at the time. I didn't know what to expect at the TS, but she guided me thru it with her limited english and it was also a good experience. After the massage, she covered me and we had some fun. Nice cuddle afterwards. Second visit saw Gina, a petite pretty stereotypical asian. Very nice C cups. Spoke pretty good english. Massage wasn't as good as the other girl, but the rest certainly was. Paid house plus $140. I'm thinking of trying 1021 next.
Mamasan on phone said 4 girls, but as is typical they have only 3, other one on "bacation" I guess.
Got lineup, and they all have similar makeup and hair style like 3 japanese dolls, but of course Korean, now one is very petite Cookie, sort of cute, maybe 5-0 and 100 lbs. And then Mya. 5-1, cute but a few extra lbs. Then the tall girl Suzie, and she has a true medium build, meaning an extra 20 lbs but still hot as it looks natural for her.
I picked Suzie who actually is 5-4 but looked very tall next to other girls, probably 130 to 140 lbs, maybe late 20's early 30's, She went wild GFE right away, which to me is heavy aggressive DFK kissing, just real got into it very fast, great kisser and sort of sexy, pretty face, and very affectionate and claimed session was like "making love" Very engaging personality, and talked about chemistry and how she can sense when a customer doesn't look down upon her. No shower and no message, so the session was very long, no rush or anything, very relaxing. Only tipped at end, no mention before.
Pretty good session.
As I said before, there is at least one other guy out there who apparently agreed with my multiple posts on Jackie referring to her as having Maxim cover girl quality. Plus the personality along with it.
Dropped some cash on main mamasan to cross-check what other mamasan told me a few weeks back about the status of Jackie."Moo-Moo" finally confirmed Jackie is now mistress to some very wealthy older guy. She also added a few facts, that upon intrepretation means the guy has to worth multi-millions. As I've stated before Jackie mysteriously left a week early on Feb 1st, which later turned out to be a gambling trip with a customer. Then on Feb 15th "Moo-moo" said Jackie was looking forward to returning to OS, liked it very much there, and probably in a month or so." Then the story a few weeks later went to "never coming back". Now its "might come back someday" Moo moo and Jackies are close friends and this might just reflect Jackies's day to day perceptions on her prospects as a mistress going forward.
Very very few women are willing to work as prostitutes, high volume or otherwise, however many women would consider being mistresses 1. Because such arrangements generally are not even legally deemed prostitution 2. They are often hard to distinguish between a rich guy and his girlfriend situation. Ideally, a high earning prostitute would not be a good candidate for a mistress because her opportunity cost in foregone income is just too high. A top end FS spa girl can earn min 160k to 200k a yr for an intense 6 months of work but 6 months off, so its hard for a sugar daddy to match that, and if they did, they might just take the cash and run.
Basically SD's will try to offer a lifestyle with paid for. Apts, cars, credits cards, plane trips etc, the idea being to addict the girl to the lifestyle w / o having her accumulate too much cash. The going rate in NYC for a top end girl is only around 10k a month right now, and even lesss in some cases, but that's' nothing compared to what a top end prostitute earns. Also its a buyers market and that's why Coco has been looking for so many months. In some ways Jackie and Coco are comparable, each one's got a look but Jackie is way over her in terms of intensity of personality and sense of humor, and with her 5-7 height, its hard to match her. I am sure Coco got the full story on what the deal was with Jackie, so that may explain why she was so depressed, feeling maybe she missed out by arriving a month too late in Feb. Jackie also happens to have great technique on kissing and everything, quite a bit beyond Coco.
Had my sixth session with Ruby Tues morning. As usual she seemed happy to see me and said that I was away too long (3 weeks). We started with LFK and caressing then to the TS. As usual it was good with just the right amount of teasing and touch and then back to the room. This time I tryed something different before I went. I had some some manual release about 1hr before I went. Now I'm young at heart and body but over 60 in age. I was worried that I wouldn't get another erection but with Ruby you'd have to be dead not to. So we get back to room and started in like two kids and got naked. We LFK and explored each other I went in for DATY which she likes and reached her first O. Then she climbed on top and went for 69. After about 15 min of this she O'd again and was very wet. Then on to the main event. We started out with her bent over the table and then turned her around sitting on the edge and me standing. Next some doggie and Mish, GC, RGC. She had another O. Me not yet. At this point we were going at it for about 35 min. Then it got a little weird. She says why you no cum. I explained that sometimes older men get the feeling but don't cum. She's says to long I sore and tired. I asked to give me oral again she said no finished. She seemed a little iritated. So I asked her to lay beside me and cuddle which she did and said again why you no cum. I don't know if she felt like she didn't do her job or what. I tried to reassure her that everythingwas okay. Then she told me I should try other girls there. I really like Ruby and feel like there is good chemistry and that I wouldn't get the same service that I get from her. By the way the experiment was a success.
[QUOTE=Knight62;1179542]Had my sixth session with Ruby Tues morning. As usual she seemed happy to see me and said that I was away too long (3 weeks). We started with LFK and caressing then to the TS. As usual it was good with just the right amount of teasing and touch and then back to the room. This time I tryed something different before I went. I had some some manual release about 1hr before I went. Now I'm young at heart and body but over 60 in age. I was worried that I wouldn't get another erection but with Ruby you'd have to be dead not to. So we get back to room and started in like two kids and got naked. We LFK and explored each other I went in for DATY which she likes and reached her first O. Then she climbed on top and went for 69. After about 15 min of this she O'd again and was very wet. Then on to the main event. We started out with her bent over the table and then turned her around sitting on the edge and me standing. Next some doggie and Mish, GC, RGC. She had another O. Me not yet. At this point we were going at it for about 35 min. Then it got a little weird. She says why you no cum. I explained that sometimes older men get the feeling but don't cum. She's says to long I sore and tired. I asked to give me oral again she said no finished. She seemed a little iritated. So I asked her to lay beside me and cuddle which she did and said again why you no cum. I don't know if she felt like she didn't do her job or what. I tried to reassure her that everything was okay. Then she told me I should try other girls there. I really like Ruby and feel like there is good chemistry and that I wouldn't get the same service that I get from her. By the way the experiment was a success.[/QUOTE]Ruby is a doll for certain and I would rank her easily in the top 10 of all time and possibly in top 5 there at 1021. Before my ATF girl returned I exclusively was seeing only Ruby and I swear each time I saw her she was better!
I have experienced exactly what you wrote about regarding cum with these girls and I swear they feel as though it is something they did or didn't do and I do believe they take it personally. I actually was there today with my ATF and had an incredible mind blowing 90 minute session that did not include any massage at all. LOL! First round went on for a very long time but I was able to finish happily, then we cuddled and held each other for about 15 minutes when my girl for some reason decided to start a full blown HJ which felt incredible but after about 20 minutes she was not going to get any final results! At first she looked a bit upset but after I explained that 2 times in less then an hour was virtually impossible for me and I'm only 48! Sucks getting old. LOL. She even sat up on my legs and did kind of a CG HJ thing which was out of this world but still. No end result! Even though I could not give a second batch I still immensely enjoyed myself and what she was doing.
Next time you go save up for several days and give her all you got to prove to her she is able to please you. LOL! Ruby is a sweetheart for sure but I think her days are numbered there as she has been there for a while now!
Muffy
[QUOTE=Offshore Racer; 1179418]As I said before, there is at least one other guy out there who apparently agreed with my multiple posts on Jackie referring to her as having Maxim cover girl quality. Plus the personality along with it.
Dropped some cash on main mamasan to cross-check what other mamasan told me a few weeks back about the status of Jackie."Moo-Moo" finally confirmed Jackie is now mistress to some very wealthy older guy. She also added a few facts, that upon intrepretation means the guy has to worth multi-millions. As I've stated before Jackie mysteriously left a week early on Feb 1st, which later turned out to be a gambling trip with a customer. Then on Feb 15th "Moo-moo" said Jackie was looking forward to returning to OS, liked it very much there, and probably in a month or so." Then the story a few weeks later went to "never coming back". Now its "might come back someday" Moo moo and Jackies are close friends and this might just reflect Jackies's day to day perceptions on her prospects as a mistress going forward.
Very very few women are willing to work as prostitutes, high volume or otherwise, however many women would consider being mistresses 1. Because such arrangements generally are not even legally deemed prostitution 2. They are often hard to distinguish between a rich guy and his girlfriend situation. Ideally, a high earning prostitute would not be a good candidate for a mistress because her opportunity cost in foregone income is just too high. A top end FS spa girl can earn min 160k to 200k a yr for an intense 6 months of work but 6 months off, so its hard for a sugar daddy to match that, and if they did, they might just take the cash and run.
Basically SD's will try to offer a lifestyle with paid for. Apts, cars, credits cards, plane trips etc, the idea being to addict the girl to the lifestyle w / o having her accumulate too much cash. The going rate in NYC for a top end girl is only around 10k a month right now, and even lesss in some cases, but that's' nothing compared to what a top end prostitute earns. Also its a buyers market and that's why Coco has been looking for so many months. In some ways Jackie and Coco are comparable, each one's got a look but Jackie is way over her in terms of intensity of personality and sense of humor, and with her 5-7 height, its hard to match her. I am sure Coco got the full story on what the deal was with Jackie, so that may explain why she was so depressed, feeling maybe she missed out by arriving a month too late in Feb. Jackie also happens to have great technique on kissing and everything, quite a bit beyond Coco. [/QUOTE]Offshore my friend. While your posts sound as though you are very knowledgeable about the girls at OS Spa and what there intentions or plans are I must say you always leave me wondering why this type of information has any importance to 99% of the guys who read this forum. Maybe I am alone in saying that this sort of information is kind of useless unless of course you happen to be a "Multi Millionaire" and wish to have one of these girls as you "Mistress"? You are very focused in on the very highest end girl in this trade and seem to be infatuated with what it takes to be a SD.
Just relax my man and enjoy these girls for what they offer the average Joe like you and I and 99% of every guy that walks through the doors and hits the buzzer. They offer us a brief way out of a hectic, stressful mundane life and that's all. If you happen to be lucky enough to know them on the outside then you will find that not all of them are out to get the SD deals. I have been extremely close to a few in my days who were just average down to earth girls who were not all about the dollar. I am sure there are a few who are the ones looking for the SD deals but they are a minority. Just sit back and enjoy, don't worry so much about the politics of it all.
Muffy
[QUOTE=Muffythediver; 1179662]Offshore my friend. While your posts sound as though you are very knowledgeable about the girls at OS Spa and what there intentions or plans are I must say you always leave me wondering why this type of information has any importance to 99% of the guys who read this forum. Maybe I am alone in saying that this sort of information is kind of useless unless of course you happen to be a "Multi Millionaire" and wish to have one of these girls as you "Mistress"? You are very focused in on the very highest end girl in this trade and seem to be infatuated with what it takes to be a SD.
Just relax my man and enjoy these girls for what they offer the average Joe like you and I and 99% of every guy that walks through the doors and hits the buzzer. They offer us a brief way out of a hectic, stressful mundane life and that's all. If you happen to be lucky enough to know them on the outside then you will find that not all of them are out to get the SD deals. I have been extremely close to a few in my days who were just average down to earth girls who were not all about the dollar. I am sure there are a few who are the ones looking for the SD deals but they are a minority. Just sit back and enjoy, don't worry so much about the politics of it all.
Muffy[/QUOTE]It was good info to me, I found out there is no chance in hell of me ever being a sugar daddy.
Heck I can't make 10k a month for myself never mind 10k for some asian hottie.
I suspect that she somehow figured with all that acting she must have been due a break as a menber of the Screen Actors Guild. Sometimes it better to be like me- a 2 pump chump.
[QUOTE=Knight62;1179542]Had my sixth session with Ruby Tues morning. As usual she seemed happy to see me and said that I was away too long (3 weeks). We started with LFK and caressing then to the TS. As usual it was good with just the right amount of teasing and touch and then back to the room. This time I tryed something different before I went. I had some some manual release about 1hr before I went. Now I'm young at heart and body but over 60 in age. I was worried that I wouldn't get another erection but with Ruby you'd have to be dead not to. So we get back to room and started in like two kids and got naked. We LFK and explored each other I went in for DATY which she likes and reached her first O. Then she climbed on top and went for 69. After about 15 min of this she O'd again and was very wet. Then on to the main event. We started out with her bent over the table and then turned her around sitting on the edge and me standing. Next some doggie and Mish, GC, RGC. She had another O. Me not yet. At this point we were going at it for about 35 min. Then it got a little weird. She says why you no cum. I explained that sometimes older men get the feeling but don't cum. She's says to long I sore and tired. I asked to give me oral again she said no finished. She seemed a little iritated. So I asked her to lay beside me and cuddle which she did and said again why you no cum. I don't know if she felt like she didn't do her job or what. I tried to reassure her that everythingwas okay. Then she told me I should try other girls there. I really like Ruby and feel like there is good chemistry and that I wouldn't get the same service that I get from her. By the way the experiment was a success.[/QUOTE]
I recently visited 1021 again after nearly a month away. Fortunately, Ruby was available. I love my sessions with her. She is so sweet and seemingly enthusiastic, and creates a great experience, despite the language barrier. However, similar as to what was said below, after a certain point during FS she became very desperate for me to finish, and seemed quite physically sore afterwards each time (I did a double session). I hope she is holding up well. As was said, she seems to have done a particularly long tour of duty there, albeit one I have relished during my infrequent visits to Providence.
On my way out I met two other girls there. I was still euphoric after two hours with Ruby, barely thinking straight, but I thought I recognized Sandy (whom I have been with before) ; the other girl was a little more petite and I didn't catch her name.
Still feeling randy upon returning to the car I decided to try out Bali, where I had never been. Once there, after being led to a room, I asked for Cookie, based on description given in an earlier post here, because I like petite women. I'm not sure if I got her; the height was right (5' ish) but probably not 100 lbs. Said she was 28. Decent face, with highlights in hair. Perfunctory TS and pretty good massage, strong fingers. She was pleasantly talkative, with enough English to hold a reasonable conversation. DATY and mish and doggy; again, everything was pleasant, but I've been spoiled by 1021 standards. Nice conversation, though, and a few chaste kisses at beginning and end.
[QUOTE=Knight62;1179542]Had my sixth session with Ruby Tues morning. As usual she seemed happy to see me and said that I was away too long (3 weeks). We started with LFK and caressing then to the TS. As usual it was good with just the right amount of teasing and touch and then back to the room. This time I tryed something different before I went. I had some some manual release about 1hr before I went. Now I'm young at heart and body but over 60 in age. I was worried that I wouldn't get another erection but with Ruby you'd have to be dead not to. So we get back to room and started in like two kids and got naked. We LFK and explored each other I went in for DATY which she likes and reached her first O. Then she climbed on top and went for 69. After about 15 min of this she O'd again and was very wet. Then on to the main event. We started out with her bent over the table and then turned her around sitting on the edge and me standing. Next some doggie and Mish, GC, RGC. She had another O. Me not yet. At this point we were going at it for about 35 min. Then it got a little weird. She says why you no cum. I explained that sometimes older men get the feeling but don't cum. She's says to long I sore and tired. I asked to give me oral again she said no finished. She seemed a little iritated. So I asked her to lay beside me and cuddle which she did and said again why you no cum. I don't know if she felt like she didn't do her job or what. I tried to reassure her that everythingwas okay. Then she told me I should try other girls there. I really like Ruby and feel like there is good chemistry and that I wouldn't get the same service that I get from her. By the way the experiment was a success.[/QUOTE]The bottom line we know it is still "work" for these ladies. They certainly know how to "stroke" our egos and get us to " respond" But for us older or nervous roosters we simply can not physically respond at their beckon call. In regular life There are times certain tasks we do on our jobs / lives that are a pia or just time consuming. Maybe we catch "Ruby" or our fav AMP gal at the time during one of those spells it was too much work for them at that time and their "performance"got us to respond w such disappointment or heck even rejection because it was GFE for us but not BFE for them.
I like seeing my " fav" too but I know that "Bacation" can be any day away and it will be time to find a new fav' then the cycle repeats.
[QUOTE=Legend Man; 1179803]It was good info to me, I found out there is no chance in hell of me ever being a sugar daddy.
Heck I can't make 10k a month for myself never mind 10k for some asian hottie. [/QUOTE]10k is ultra high end asian. Probably half that for conventionally pretty asian girls, or even lower in some cases. Two factors at work 1. A bad economy 2. Most girls do not want to be outright working girls. There is a stripper at Foxy I know who runs under the same pretense with her SD, she would never be a true working girl IMHO.
It so happens that two of the top end spa girls (out of only 7 or 8 around town in the past year or so) happen to have sugar daddy situations or plans of some type. Its a reality that I didn't create. My comments on Jackie are to explain what the hell happened to her, especially since she was about to be one of the rare cases of an ultra hot girl actually doing a 2nd tour in Providence, because most (except Coco so far at least) disappear and its partly why I posted so much on Jackie back in January and February, hoping to encourage others to spend $$ on her, and make her happy with Providence.
I believe alot more people monitor this site than post on it. OS alone has to have at least several 1000 customers and I'm sure a certain percentage are pretty well off, and the mamasans at OS are not good at explaining a girls overall look or attitude, if they know it. Now and then with (just a notch below ultra hot level) girls like Nicole and Soda. They do accurately describe them beforehand though.