Massage Parlor Reports

[QUOTE=NotDeadYet;3288272]So we can fool the LEO. . .[/QUOTE]I am replying to an answer to someone wondering why someone cannot give an actual amount. I have been involved in this hobby for years and get totally confused at times. $. 7? $. 2? And to answer the above answer, it is illegal to pay $1. 00 for sex, so I'm not sure what the difference is between $200 and $300 other than the fact that someone is illegally paying $100.00 more. Ask LEO whether or not he cares whether it is $200 or $300. I get a real laugh out of 70 "roses". Are there any attorneys reading this- would that really protect someone from prosecution?

[QUOTE=Ump1969;3304620]I am replying to an answer to someone wondering why someone cannot give an actual amount. I have been involved in this hobby for years and get totally confused at times. $. 7? $. 2? And to answer the above answer, it is illegal to pay $1. 00 for sex, so I'm not sure what the difference is between $200 and $300 other than the fact that someone is illegally paying $100.00 more. Ask LEO whether or not he cares whether it is $200 or $300. I get a real laugh out of 70 "roses". Are there any attorneys reading this- would that really protect someone from prosecution?[/QUOTE]When the Feds went after a RICO and Organized Crime cases back in the 70/80's the newspapers published wiretaps that were full of misleading language. Juries were informed what the codewords and phrases were indicating. Convictions were obtained. Not being a lawyer I cannot say what the difference is legally. It may come down to how motivated LEO is to put down his donuts and dance with you.

Look, I'm not an attorney either, but this aspect of this "hobby" has always made me laugh. I agree with your comment about language. I mean who are we kidding here? The intent of every online post on this and every other sex website, whether an ad or review is to participate in activities that are illegal in most of the US. Having "dreams", paying with "roses", paying for companionship only, paying $$. 2. The intent is clear. Frankly, I'm surprised that LE doesn't just shut all the online sex sites down and I'm not at all surprised by what has happened to Craigslist, Backpage, etc. Afterall, we are just a court order and IP address away from LEO knocking on all our doors.

So, anybody know where I can get a 21 yo dd spinner into GFE, BBBJ, FUMA, COF that speaks Greek in the western suburbs? <wink, wink .

[QUOTE=E2304;3304687]When the Feds went after a RICO and Organized Crime cases back in the 70/80's the newspapers published wiretaps that were full of misleading language. Juries were informed what the codewords and phrases were indicating. Convictions were obtained. Not being a lawyer I cannot say what the difference is legally. It may come down to how motivated LEO is to put down his donuts and dance with you.[/QUOTE]

No, but I know of one BBBJWS, CIP, CIM. LOL.

[QUOTE=ToplessnCago;3304993]Look, I'm not an attorney either, but this aspect of this "hobby" has always made me laugh. I agree with your comment about language. I mean who are we kidding here? The intent of every online post on this and every other sex website, whether an ad or review is to participate in activities that are illegal in most of the US. Having "dreams", paying with "roses", paying for companionship only, paying $$. 2. The intent is clear. Frankly, I'm surprised that LE doesn't just shut all the online sex sites down and I'm not at all surprised by what has happened to Craigslist, Backpage, etc. Afterall, we are just a court order and IP address away from LEO knocking on all our doors.

So, anybody know where I can get a 21 yo dd spinner into GFE, BBBJ, FUMA, COF that speaks Greek in the western suburbs? <wink, wink .[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=ToplessnCago;3304993]Look, I'm not an attorney either, but this aspect of this "hobby" has always made me laugh. I agree with your comment about language. I mean who are we kidding here? The intent of every online post on this and every other sex website, whether an ad or review is to participate in activities that are illegal in most of the US. Having "dreams", paying with "roses", paying for companionship only, paying $$. 2. The intent is clear. Frankly, I'm surprised that LE doesn't just shut all the online sex sites down and I'm not at all surprised by what has happened to Craigslist, Backpage, etc. Afterall, we are just a court order and IP address away from LEO knocking on all our doors.

So, anybody know where I can get a 21 yo dd spinner into GFE, BBBJ, FUMA, COF that speaks Greek in the western suburbs? <wink, wink .[/QUOTE]Guys, the admin has explained this so many times that he is probably sick of it. The hosting of this site, I. E. , the computer servers, are OUTSIDE the United States. It would take the the fed's and / or state attorneys a ton of time and resources just to make the request, and the foreign country involved could just ignore it anyway. I know, you are thinking the government can hire hackers to get the info, but then, they would have to admit to state-sponsored hacking to bust guys getting handjobs from 50 year old Asian women. As for blocking the site, then who are we? China? North Korea? Besides, LE does not want this site to go away, it is free intel for them to find out what is going on in their community.

I'm not worried. I use a different VPN for each day of the week along with several burner phones so my tracks are covered, LOL. But seriously this is a very astute observation and practically speaking spot on.

[QUOTE=PeterNorth9;3306246]Guys, the admin has explained this so many times that he is probably sick of it. The hosting of this site, I. E. , the computer servers, are OUTSIDE the United States. It would take the the fed's and / or state attorneys a ton of time and resources just to make the request, and the foreign country involved could just ignore it anyway. I know, you are thinking the government can hire hackers to get the info, but then, they would have to admit to state-sponsored hacking to bust guys getting handjobs from 50 year old Asian women. As for blocking the site, then who are we? China? North Korea? Besides, LE does not want this site to go away, it is free intel for them to find out what is going on in their community.[/QUOTE]

[blue]Some of the guys get an extra thrill pretending they are Tony Montana or something I think. I can just see some up and coming assistant DA going to his boss for a half a million dollars to serve TWO international warrants under the Hague Conventions to not one but two other countries (we don't live where the servers are) in order to pick up some misdemeanor handjob busts.

I don't think the cops even bother, everything here is hearsay, none of it can be used in court and they have guys who do nothing all day long except drive around looking at shit. Cops know where you can get a handie before any of you guys even get their let alone have time to read about it. When somebody tells them to they go bust them.

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[QUOTE=PeterNorth9;3306246]Guys, the admin has explained this so many times that he is probably sick of it. The hosting of this site, I. E. , the computer servers, are OUTSIDE the United States. It would take the the fed's and / or state attorneys a ton of time and resources just to make the request, and the foreign country involved could just ignore it anyway. I know, you are thinking the government can hire hackers to get the info, but then, they would have to admit to state-sponsored hacking to bust guys getting handjobs from 50 year old Asian women. As for blocking the site, then who are we? China? North Korea? Besides, LE does not want this site to go away, it is free intel for them to find out what is going on in their community.[/QUOTE]They don't need this site to know what is going in the different communities.

They have informers that tell them what's up in spas too, not just what Bangers are doing.

The City has its own LE division that works with the BACP part of the city govt that pretty much is vice, and they are the ones who will usually bust the spas when they get the order to do so.

There's more to this but I'm done.

[QUOTE=Confucius;3306455]They don't need this site to know what is going in the different communities.

They have informers that tell them what's up in spas too, not just what Bangers are doing.

The City has its own LE division that works with the BACP part of the city govt that pretty much is vice, and they are the ones who will usually bust the spas when they get the order to do so.

There's more to this but I'm done.[/QUOTE]Anybody have any good stories about the flower shop or ivy (sorry, just trying to change the conversation) just kidding. It all comes down to everybody including admin is safe. Non of us (I hope) are using real emails and hopefully not real names, mine is not meijerslp if you tried to google my address. As far as anybody is concerned, it's a bunch of guys / girls / LEO telling stories, nothing wrong with that. Are there any site rule that we have to use the abbreviations for money and / or a bare back BJ, or can we spell it out as we wish?

Last few times I've been, saw an older Korean lady, many miles but very pleasant lady. Just standard level 1 service but very skilled at DNA extraction. I think many would pass her by but I like her. Not sure if the owner changed hands but the big first room is now remodeled and is very small. Another addition is the there is a lady sitting at the desk taking money. This makes a lot of sense.

I stopped in the other day and had a okay visit. The massage was good but when it was time to.

Look at the menu, the prices have gone up. And she was average all the way around. She has to.

Be a knock out for me to spend what she asked for. A c note for CBJ. I laughed and told her it would have to be BBBJCIM for that price. I could get that at the apartment and more with a younger chick. She said that amount was standard. I laughed. I told her she was off her rocker and I'm going to pass. I just laid there and enjoyed the massage. She asked me to flip and I did. After a couple of minutes of me ignoring her she asked if I wanted a hand shake. I said"not for 80". She said I could give her what ever I wanted. After that I left 40 and thanked her. These people are nuts to be asking for that amount. I have been going to apts for a few years and only stop by these places for.

A quick unplanned break. Doesn't break my heart to stand my ground.

I think the good old days, good times at IVY have come and gone and it may also be true for the now stale AMP scene. Maybe the pendulum will swing back one of these days but I'm not holding my breath.

[QUOTE=Biscuit123;3320217]I stopped in the other day and had a okay visit. The massage was good but when it was time to.

Look at the menu, the prices have gone up. And she was average all the way around. She has to.

Be a knock out for me to spend what she asked for. A c note for CBJ. I laughed and told her it would have to be BBBJCIM for that price. I could get that at the apartment and more with a younger chick. She said that amount was standard. I laughed. I told her she was off her rocker and I'm going to pass. I just laid there and enjoyed the massage. She asked me to flip and I did. After a couple of minutes of me ignoring her she asked if I wanted a hand shake. I said"not for 80". She said I could give her what ever I wanted. After that I left 40 and thanked her. These people are nuts to be asking for that amount. I have been going to apts for a few years and only stop by these places for.

A quick unplanned break. Doesn't break my heart to stand my ground.[/QUOTE]

I have tried giving PT a few chances and I have been disappointed each time. I dropped by and got a grandma, asked for a younger girl and was told next time. I stayed for the massage and turned down the extras, had a talk with Mamasan and was told I could see the 1 young girl they have. I came back a few days later and ask for the young girl up front and was told she was busy I reminded Mamasan about her promise and she said to come back an hour later, I came back and she said she was still busy offered me a grandma again so I left. Tried again a few weeks later, called first and asked for Rose, the young girl, Mamasan told me I can't request the girls because she might not be available when I get there. I reminded her about her promise and she said "we see when you get here" I didn't go back and I don't plan on it until I see lots of happy reports. I am beginning to wonder if Rose even exists!

Perhaps PT good old days have also come and gone. My last three visits were lack luster.

[QUOTE=AlBundy78;3322523]I have tried giving PT a few chances and I have been disappointed each time. I dropped by and got a grandma, asked for a younger girl and was told next time. I stayed for the massage and turned down the extras, had a talk with Mamasan and was told I could see the 1 young girl they have. I came back a few days later and ask for the young girl up front and was told she was busy I reminded Mamasan about her promise and she said to come back an hour later, I came back and she said she was still busy offered me a grandma again so I left. Tried again a few weeks later, called first and asked for Rose, the young girl, Mamasan told me I can't request the girls because she might not be available when I get there. I reminded her about her promise and she said "we see when you get here" I didn't go back and I don't plan on it until I see lots of happy reports. I am beginning to wonder if Rose even exists![/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=DMichaels69;3322726]Perhaps PT good old days have also come and gone. My last three visits were lack luster.[/QUOTE]Angel was the only one that was young / good at PT. That was a couple of months ago, I wonder if she is still there!

On all local TV news shows Pine Tree busted again. 3 girls arrested with mug shots shown on TV. WTF? Leave them alone!!

[QUOTE=MarkLipper;3327201]On all local TV news shows Pine Tree busted again. 3 girls arrested with mug shots shown on TV. WTF? Leave them alone!![/QUOTE]Photo in BP as is similar. They have a number or legit positive reviews back to at least 2015.

[QUOTE=Ufeelmylove143;3322957]Angel was the only one that was young / good at PT. That was a couple of months ago, I wonder if she is still there![/QUOTE]+1.

Angel is a force of nature.

They got busted because someone said nothing was going on there and LEO got curious. Good job Mr Lipper! LOL.

[QUOTE=MarkLipper;3327201]On all local TV news shows Pine Tree busted again. 3 girls arrested with mug shots shown on TV. WTF? Leave them alone!![/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=AlTango21;3287165]Went there for 2nd time and drew Daisy. Petite girl and fun.

Massage was good and FS avail. Definitely one of my better experiences at an AMP.

80 door fee. $. 40 for full service tip. Pricey but she was a little hottie.[/QUOTE]Petite is nice, but I'm not into girls over 30. Not fucking weird young either.

Stopped by, very busy so did not wait. Young girl answered the door, see thru shirt on, huge puppies, j-lo ass. I imagine many mongers wanting to get behind that. I've stopped by a few times in the last several months and had a pleasant time. I stick to level 1 with ample roaming so I don't have to be bothered with negotiations. I've seen the older Kimchi lady and the bottle blonde. The K lady has some good stories, very entertaining. This might be a better alternative then IVY at the moment but keep the flowers and candy at home as they like the green backs, LOL.

Stopped by and a couple times in the last few months and had my old manager friend who keeps finding her way back to the sunny side of the street. Last time I drew a younger girl who gave me a killer massage and better than average finish. Very friendly nice person and affectionate. Overall I would say the massage has always been good here. Last time many cracks were heard and I left very relaxed. Level one place with a couple exceptions over the years. If you want a full on brothel visit the flower shop.

I've gone there several times and the blonde (Bella) has got to be one of the rudest individuals I've met. Sophia was a pleasant level 1 service. I've gone for years and it can be a hit or miss.

Yes, not really a charmer but pleasant enough.

[QUOTE=EvilMan1856;3333110]I've gone there several times and the blonde (Bella) has got to be one of the rudest individuals I've met. Sophia was a pleasant level 1 service. I've gone for years and it can be a hit or miss.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=DMichaels69;3330430]. Level one place with a couple exceptions over the years. If you want a full on brothel visit the flower shop.[/QUOTE]Would agree with this. Stopped by and drew a nice gal. Massage was more on the sensual side. Left happy and would probably return.

[QUOTE=ShogunMaster;3294735]I saw Daisy once. She was very friendly & fun. I was still pretty new to the hobby but she made me feel comfortable. As I left she gave me a big hug & kiss and promised more next time.[/QUOTE]Rates must have went up. Daisy was 120 recently.

This is my second review and unfortunately isn't great. I probably shouldn't call it a review because there is nothing to review. Anyway I stopped by the Flower Shop today in between deliveries. When I pulled into the lot I was driving real slow and saw a older Asian woman looking out the door at me and the lot. Only two cars parked nearby but not close so I assumed they weren't busy inside. I kept driving to the back like I was going to the apartments. I do you-turn come back and park. When I got of the car and was walking up to the building a woman and 2 kids walked by probably to the apartments. I go in and the older lady who was looking out the door was standing inside. Man she looked familiar like I had seen her at another AMP. Her English was horrible. She says "not now, no taking customer come another time". She seemed real nervous and kept looking out the door while talking (or trying to talk) to me. And when I get in my truck and was backing out a guy parks in front of spa and goes in. I made it to the main road and when I look in the mirror he was already getting in his car. I don't know what spooked her but she must've seen something. Crazy!

[QUOTE=DocDan;3342080]This is my second review and unfortunately isn't great. I probably shouldn't call it a review because there is nothing to review. Anyway I stopped by the Flower Shop today in between deliveries. When I pulled into the lot I was driving real slow and saw a older Asian woman looking out the door at me and the lot. Only two cars parked nearby but not close so I assumed they weren't busy inside. I kept driving to the back like I was going to the apartments. I do you-turn come back and park. When I got of the car and was walking up to the building a woman and 2 kids walked by probably to the apartments. I go in and the older lady who was looking out the door was standing inside. Man she looked familiar like I had seen her at another AMP. Her English was horrible. She says "not now, no taking customer come another time". She seemed real nervous and kept looking out the door while talking (or trying to talk) to me. And when I get in my truck and was backing out a guy parks in front of spa and goes in. I made it to the main road and when I look in the mirror he was already getting in his car. I don't know what spooked her but she must've seen something. Crazy![/QUOTE]Some signs of LEO activity? This one has been getting some reviews for full action recently.

That place is probably not the best place to be going in the back door with those apts being so close. My hunch is a lot mongers may ask the girls to meet them out back to talk or whatever. Its also possible more cars are waiting around back while its busy all of which may cause the Gladys Kravitz's to start wondering. The shop needs to do more due diligence to cut down on the attention. Proper screening, cutting off the " I want a Chinese gf/wife" mongers etc etc. This is very fixable.

[QUOTE=ArielDude28;3342647]Some signs of LEO activity? This one has been getting some reviews for full action recently.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=DMichaels69;3342806]That place is probably not the best place to be going in the back door with those apts being so close. My hunch is a lot mongers may ask the girls to meet them out back to talk or whatever. Its also possible more cars are waiting around back while its busy all of which may cause the Gladys Kravitz's to start wondering. The shop needs to do more due diligence to cut down on the attention. Proper screening, cutting off the " I want a Chinese gf/wife" mongers etc etc. This is very fixable.[/QUOTE]Not sure what happened. But something happened just before I got there. Unless they were expecting a visit by someone. It could be totally by chance like one of the girls was sick or they had to leave. Either way I'm going back just based on the reviews. Not to mention I like the subdued location.

I agree. This is just one of those places with a weird setup. Even though the entrance isn't on the main road the front door has a an office building in front of it and the back door has those apartments. Usually on the weekend or later at night it's pretty calm around but other than that there could be a lot of nosey people watching.

[QUOTE=DMichaels69;3342806]That place is probably not the best place to be going in the back door with those apts being so close. My hunch is a lot mongers may ask the girls to meet them out back to talk or whatever. Its also possible more cars are waiting around back while its busy all of which may cause the Gladys Kravitz's to start wondering. The shop needs to do more due diligence to cut down on the attention. Proper screening, cutting off the " I want a Chinese gf/wife" mongers etc etc. This is very fixable.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=EvilMan1856;3333110]I've gone there several times and the blonde (Bella) has got to be one of the rudest individuals I've met. Sophia was a pleasant level 1 service. I've gone for years and it can be a hit or miss.[/QUOTE]I used to frequent this place a couple years ago. Then went back a few times recently. Not much has changed except the women. Bella, seems to hate life, she does the job, but everything is done as if she is just going through the motions with a chip on her shoulder. The other women there aren't exactly attractive from what I've seen, but I may not have caught a glimpse of everyone. On a recent visit, within a week or so ago, there was an unmarked police car hanging around the lot area. It was not by their front entrance, but around the corner in the drive that connects the businesses, parallel to the road, facing west. It looked very suspicious to me.

[QUOTE=MarkLipper;3327201]On all local TV news shows Pine Tree busted again. 3 girls arrested with mug shots shown on TV. WTF? Leave them alone!![/QUOTE]The quality of service went down while the ages of the employees when up. We aren't missing much. I switched to apartment service in China town. Everyone is young and hot down there. Totally worth the drive into the city.

Has anyone tried the new place on Butterfield Rd. In Glen Ellyn? They seem to be pretty busy. Went by two times and there was a wait each time and they seem to have a MMS to direct things. She was wearing a necklace that had a laminated card that said "cashier" on it LOL. She didn't seem to speak much English though.

[QUOTE=Jlima;3351245]Has anyone tried the new place on Butterfield Rd. In Glen Ellyn? They seem to be pretty busy. Went by two times and there was a wait each time and they seem to have a MMS to direct things. She was wearing a necklace that had a laminated card that said "cashier" on it LOL. She didn't seem to speak much English though.[/QUOTE]Yeah sometimes there is a skinny dude with the tag on kind of strange but I'm adventurous. Good Mt there awesome massage, owners don't have the best business sense, it's the place with no sign on it doesn't help attract customers.

[QUOTE=Delta634;3353964]Yeah sometimes there is a skinny dude with the tag on kind of strange but I'm adventurous. Good Mt there awesome massage, owners don't have the best business sense, it's the place with no sign on it doesn't help attract customers.[/QUOTE]Is this the place next door to the Thai food place?

The Glen Ellyn location is a former favorite for those of you who are familiar with the Tinley area.

It is the former M, next to Jewel.

The cashier tag has a very important purpose, it's being worn for a reason.

[QUOTE=E2304;3354068]Is this the place next door to the Thai food place?[/QUOTE]It's the place I told you about last week or so that you went to.

[QUOTE=GMan25;3343591]I used to frequent this place a couple years ago. Then went back a few times recently. Not much has changed except the women. Bella, seems to hate life, she does the job, but everything is done as if she is just going through the motions with a chip on her shoulder. The other women there aren't exactly attractive from what I've seen, but I may not have caught a glimpse of everyone. On a recent visit, within a week or so ago, there was an unmarked police car hanging around the lot area. It was not by their front entrance, but around the corner in the drive that connects the businesses, parallel to the road, facing west. It looked very suspicious to me.[/QUOTE]Bella can be quite pleasant, just be nice to her. She's not one to push around and make demands. That will get you absolutely nowhere.

[QUOTE=Jlima;3351245]Has anyone tried the new place on Butterfield Rd. In Glen Ellyn? They seem to be pretty busy. Went by two times and there was a wait each time and they seem to have a MMS to direct things. She was wearing a necklace that had a laminated card that said "cashier" on it LOL. She didn't seem to speak much English though.[/QUOTE]2 therapists, one is young, thin and cute, the other isn't. Level 1 service only, nice girls. Massages are above average.

Thanks may have to give it a try a good real masssage sounds relaxing.

Has anyone been to Ivy lately. Has the service / talent improved?

[QUOTE=JamesNoper;3357917]2 therapists, one is young, thin and cute, the other isn't. Level 1 service only, nice girls. Massages are above average.[/QUOTE]