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[QUOTE=HobbyOneknoby;1725859]Drove by today on my way to DVCOI. Saw sign up at Monarchs "now hiring entertainers". I think this is new. Anybody know how long this has been up? Ended up at DVCOI today HJ in the topless for. 4 Unremarkable but this place has stepped up it's game since HT. Been hittin Paradise and DV and occasional SR. Hoping to see a new mgmt style from SR at Monarch if they ever open. Big mistake would be to run like SR. They still have the ripoff approach to their customers. Short songs etc. Hoping they come up with a new business strategy.[/QUOTE]Completely agree with you Hobby about SR's ripoff business culture. I won't touch the place and have enjoyed their struggles trying to get Monarch's opened for like 2 years now? It was typical SR arrogance to even attempt it given the local laws and they've probably been kicking in rent and other overhead each month that they couldn't take in a dime of revenue. You can imagine how hungry they must be to bail themselves out by bleeding the wallets of desperate horndogs who would kick in the mortgage payment for promised intimacies with an ugly bimbo who looks OK in the dark.

I noticed a classified ad they published in LA Weekly looking for staffing and saying they'd open either late April or early May. It may be that they'll open as a topless club and try to profit from alcohol sales. They've done a good job of this in Torrance where they operate a pretty decent topless bar. For me, another SR Torrance would be preferable to another SRI in COI. But I don't know. Haven't seen any details of whether the club will be juice nude or topless with full bar.

I do believe they will finally open. However, this will not be the first time they announced an imminent opening and held an advertised "job fair". They may have even thrown a grand opening party the last time around but nothing but darkness since that night over a year ago. But here's hoping that COI sucks 'them dry the way they work our wallets at SRI (or try to) before they can sell the first 39 second $40 lap dance on the premises of the late great Hawaii Theatre.

Danced w / a pretty brunette (latina?) named alexis at dvcoi tonight. Has a tattoo of a woman's face on her upper back and another tat on the left side of her stomach. An absolute stunner. Took her for a topless dance to test her out. Nice and sensual but didn't let me feed on them. Played defense down there but let me brush my hand against her kitty. Asked her about her menu but she said she doesn't answer those questions. After the dance she asked if I wanted another but I made it clear what I was looking for. She said that was only 1 dance and it gets hotter. So I went for a second topless 341 and it was pretty much the same. Should have stopped then, but she asked if I wanted to go to the VIP (which is $ on thursdays). She said it would be special. I asked, real special? I'm going to leave happy? And she was like oh yeah.

So basically it was about 20 mins. Of the same crap. She took off her bottom but she never even showed me her kitty. Barely any grind and no stick shift or anything. The last 10 mins she basically laid on top of me and was falling asleep. She said she hadn't slept well in a long time. That's great. Take a nap on my dime.

Will never repeat. She's definitely a beauty so if you just want a sensual, low mileage dance from a stunner then go for it. But if you want any kind of mileage avoid her.

Has anyone seen Harmony recently? She looks like she's pregnant. Or is that the way her stomach always looks?

[QUOTE=Youngster420;1727033]Has anyone seen Harmony recently? She looks like she's pregnant. Or is that the way her stomach always looks?[/QUOTE]Been trying to see her but I read ok zbone she's pregnant.

I saw her at Paradise today, yeah, that looks like a baby bump. Wasn't so obvious just a couple of weeks ago. I didn't get a chance to buttonhole her, though, she had a nonstop line of suitors and I didn't want to stay that long.

[QUOTE=Youngster420;1727033]Has anyone seen Harmony recently? She looks like she's pregnant. Or is that the way her stomach always looks?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Vengo;1728707]I saw her at Paradise today, yeah, that looks like a baby bump. Wasn't so obvious just a couple of weeks ago. I didn't get a chance to buttonhole her, though, she had a nonstop line of suitors and I didn't want to stay that long.[/QUOTE]Who's that baby papi?

Great ass, cute face, but low mileage.

She's been there for at least 5 years and has never been a dancer who puts out. She's more the low mileage, friendly type, who is there to give lap dances in between getting stoned in the hallway near the Smoke Room.

My advice to any guy planning to monger at DVCOI would be to check the numerous resources available that provide dancer reviews. Way too much intel out there unless you are one of the guys that like to "fly blind" and just see what happens.

DVCOI is kinda so-so lately. Nothing new and really exciting that would make you want to reach for the old ATM card on primal impluse.

[QUOTE=JohnhMundy; 1726128]Danced w / a pretty brunette (latina?) named alexis at dvcoi tonight. Has a tattoo of a woman's face on her upper back and another tat on the left side of her stomach. An absolute stunner. Took her for a topless dance to test her out. Nice and sensual but didn't let me feed on them. Played defense down there but let me brush my hand against her kitty. Asked her about her menu but she said she doesn't answer those questions. After the dance she asked if I wanted another but I made it clear what I was looking for. She said that was only 1 dance and it gets hotter. So I went for a second topless 341 and it was pretty much the same. Should have stopped then, but she asked if I wanted to go to the VIP (which is $ on thursdays). She said it would be special. I asked, real special? I'm going to leave happy? And she was like oh yeah.

So basically it was about 20 mins. Of the same crap. She took off her bottom but she never even showed me her kitty. Barely any grind and no stick shift or anything. The last 10 mins she basically laid on top of me and was falling asleep. She said she hadn't slept well in a long time. That's great. Take a nap on my dime.

Will never repeat. She's definitely a beauty so if you just want a sensual, low mileage dance from a stunner then go for it. But if you want any kind of mileage avoid her.[/QUOTE]

Was at DVCOI last night. Didn't get much action. Here's a quick summary:

Carolina. I took a dance with her because for some reason I thinking Cameron when she said her name. Her dance is pretty much what you read in her reviews. Charged $20 to touch the kitty. Paid and pretended it was a nude dance which sorta works out monetarily. Lighting is better in the topless so was a better deal for me. Offered standard pricing on extras, but didn't go for anything else. Overall dance wasnt bad, but don't like the fee system with her so I don't plan to dance in the future.

Vica, Miranda, Courtney. All pretty much the same mileage. Allowed access on top. No stick shifting, some would brush the package with their leg or grind. Okay dance none that I want to repeat.

Brooklyn Carter. Wasnt planning to lap with her since I've lapped with her before, but the girl I wanted was busy all night. Ended going for her since I usually get a good dance and I did. Plenty of stick shifting and enjoyed the dance. She offered her usual menu, but my budget was done for the night. Wished I didn't lap with any of the other girls, but wanted to try some new girls (new as in I haven't lapped with them before).

Monarchs grand opening today. Free 7pm to 2 am.

If anyone goes please report.

Well had to go for some reason. Since it was new I had to check it out. Bottom line expensive and no mileage at all for now. Admission was free I assume this was an opening day special. Just asked me to buy a drink. Place is completely renovated and reaks of SR style interior in a small space. One of the notable layout issues is the addition of a short wall that runs along the one side of the interior. Behind the wall is just bench seating with about 6 feet of space. This puts the next row of seating right up against the back of the stage seating. So if you sit there people a squeezing by the whole time as this is the main walkway too. Not the best design especially since the seating behind has more space then it needs. Looks like that area could be a dancer space but presently its not. There is an additional mini stage right by the entrance and they were rotating dancers from there to the main stage. The mini stage has seating on both sides of it and it is very narrow. Dancers on this stage are really watching that they don't fall off. There is a pole there also. The main stage is about the same as before. Private dances consisted of topless, nude & VIP. $20 & 40 and 3X40 for VIP. Dances are in the area of the old HT bench space but now its 2 raised levels. The first row up is topless and the second all the way back is nude. Odd thing here is the topless area has a window in the back so if your in the nude section your watching the topless action in front of you. If this was intended as a feature I don't get it. Lighting was pretty bright in the topless area so it was impossible to not feel like you were supposed to look. Also partook of the VIP with what I hoped would be the right dancer. That area is a wide open area behind a wall that presently has no privacy. Didn't matter nothing is going on in this place yet. My dancer said in a week they are supposed to put up curtains in the VIP for privacy. They are probably waiting to see if there is any local code or heat issues. Meanwhile there is nothing worth spending a dime for in the VIP. Mileage overall was really low for COI. This is probably going to change with time but nothing worth spending any monger dollars on for now.

I got 3 sets of dances from 3 girls. First was a special at least they said it was. It was buy 2 get 2. It amounted to 4 songs and you paid for 2 since I was opting for nude it was. 8 Sorry forgot the dancers name but it wasn't anything worth writing about. She gave a good grind and played with the meat over pants. But nothing that going to get a guy off. Privacy in the nude area isn't good so don't think any mileage is ever likely here except maybe over time in the very end stalls in the back. 2nd dance was with a gal by the SN Heather, She looked like a stripper version of Ariel from Disneyland. Really flat and pale skin bright red hair might of been a wig but I don't think so. This dance was lame and not worth even writing about. She even said at the end that she would like a tip also. I said no. 3rd dance was a 120VIP with Jasmine. She is a very attractive Asian. Nice body and pleasant. This is where I find out that there is no privacy at all in the VIP for now. What exactly makes it VIP nothing. Waste of money no tipping or mileage. Again there are supposed to be curtains coming in a week I was told.

Overall waste of money at least for now. Song length isn't good but not as bad as SR is sometimes. Buy the lady a drink hassle is in full force I simply declined and they went away each time.

To summarize this place is going to offer no value while the opening hipe is in force. Time might make this place better, but I recommend waiting. Good advise I should have taken.

Went to check out the soft opening. The interior totally felt like rhino but crammed into a closet. The layout has 2 stages, one main and one piece of shit one. Its like they have the dancer walking the plank on the 2nd stage. It was nice being back in the old confines of HT but the vibe was totally different. I did recognize one HT vet. Guess she has returned to the game after trying to backpage her ass for awhile. Anyone else recognize the HT vet? Here's a hint,"I bet you've never been with an indian before." hahaha that's right priya was there with her fake nasties all brick hard. She hasn't changed her sales pitch which had me laughing inside.

Overall, this club aint going to make it unless they make it more down and dirty but with better talent that its competitors which aint going to happen

Thanks HobbyOneknoby for taking one for the team. I'll wait about a month or 2 before I check it out.

Went for the soft opening on 4-11. It was sort of strange being back in HT, but the club decor is definitely Rhino. There were simply too many bouncers, at around 10pm, bouncers still outnumbered the girls (never a good sign). One of the girls, Phoenix, a regular at the SR COI told me that they have VIP there, but no curtains.

Building off of what was posted before, did anyone else think the sound system was overpowered for such a small space. I left and it felt as if I had been shooting trap / skeet for an afternoon w / o hearing protection. Or maybe that has just weakened my ears to the point where the slightest bass sets off my tinnitus.

Song length for the dances is ok, not as short as SR, but definitely not the best around. Prices are standard SR COI prices. As HobbyOne mentioned, the regular lap area is now tier. Topless front, nude back. For some-reason, I sort of like this setup. While it can be a distraction, it is a useful way to conserve space and still maintain a separation of the dancing areas. One of the managers mentioned they still need to push one of the walls out. Not sure if this is BS, considering how much work it took for them to simply open, I can't imagine doing this unless there was a guaranteed cash-flow from this club.

In short, the Pros: The club is new, so everything is clean, it has a sort of old HT feel under a layer of SR decor, and hey, it was where I got my first dance when I turned 18 so. Memories and all.

The Cons: Expensive, pushy waitresses, most same girls as SR COI and other SR clubs, no / limited privacy, it's in a very crowded market for clubs.

I say take a shot, stop in to see the club while it's free cover. But if you already have a favorite club where you get what you want. Monarchs isn't going to have too much draw for you.

Wow. Three bad dances in one night. Must be a record at Paradise!

[url]http://abclocal.go.com/kabc/story?section=news/local/inland_empire&id=9069755[/url]

Very disturbing indeed but the attack occurred at Spearmint Rhino Rialto not in the City of Industry.

[QUOTE=NoShame2010;1721514]PM me for details.[/QUOTE]You're inbox is full. Can you pm me your email. Would appreciate it, bro.

I tend to visit SR on Friday or Saturday so I decided to go on a Monday night for the first time for the their 15min 150 VIP special. Saw 4-5 dancers mostly by the fireplace on their cell and around 6 PL. I was expecting to see more action considering 150 is a bargain for SR. Of course Alyssa was there, chatted a bit she wanted 700 for full FS. She's has a killer body but for that kind of money I could get all you can eat room service all day long. No thanks, took devon a long blonde hair skinny gal with natural knockers. Got full service for 150 no tip requested and took the whole 15min to make my worth it, she didn't rush me no bs like that. She started with CBJ HOLY COW her BJ skills are so good it hurts in a good way, full deep throat, gagging the whole porn star experience. When it came to the FS all positions were available. She wanted to CIM, but I don't play that game so finished on her tits. In the VIP rooms they now allow dancers to change the setting of the light from bright as hell to near pitch black and they have new couches. When I was in the VIP in front of couch right side corner of the ceiling I saw a white object with black dots that resembles a night vision camera. I was starring at it if thats a cam or a smoke alarm but the black dots around the corner was strange. I know like in Vegas they have cameras in the VIP section but here I mean I really don't care if they are watching me but cmon this is COI we all know whats up in the VIP section. As for the shooting, I feel safe at CIO sure you see some gangster type people but if you mind your own business all is good. I hope the dancer makes a full recovery.

Stopped by Friday night and I've never been to this club when it was this dead. The energy level was low, the place wasn't very packed. Dancers seemed discouraged because of the lack of action as well. Dancers seemed unmotivated to try and offer extras either and I figured it was just not one of those good nights. Quite honestly I haven't been here in awhile but I was surprised that the lineup was so bad on a Friday night.

-Woodyee

Now I have been mongering for awhile now.

Went to paradise. Guys. This is whale city. I must be seeing something totally different than everyone on the board. I was shocked.

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There was no rollcall yesterday and still none today. = (

Where's the Paradise roll calls at?

Just receive a text from Monarchs that they have free admission all day today and VIP 4 songs for 100.

Don't know if you need to show the text or it's for everybody.

[QUOTE=Youngster420;1750400]Where's the Paradise roll calls at?[/QUOTE]I do not believe Paradise gives out roll calls. I have never been able to find any RCs on other websites either.

[QUOTE=Akara;1751146]I do not believe Paradise gives out roll calls. I have never been able to find any RCs on other websites either.[/QUOTE]Me neither, and I've been looking. Bouncer said they show up when they want. Anybody know when Texas works these days?

[QUOTE=Akara;1751146]I do not believe Paradise gives out roll calls. I have never been able to find any RCs on other websites either.[/QUOTE]There seem to be roll calls at boned in dot com.

[QUOTE=Meerlo;1753544]There seem to be roll calls at boned in dot com.[/QUOTE]Those are posted by other please, not by anyone officially affiliated with the club.

Ok, two parts to this story. The first will be brief. I went to monarchs. It is a very well-designed place. It has a real classy feel. The problem is that it's in Industry. The place was super dead, and only one of the 4 girls approached me (that Indian one, who I politely declined). My visit ended within 20 min of sitting there. If that place wants to last, they better have deals that are too good to be true; otherwise, they are going under. The good news is that if you're in the area, it's free admission this month, so it's worth checking out since it's free.

So after my quick visit to Monarchs, I went to trusty ol' Paradise. I wrote a report a while back about "#23," and after waiting around for a while, the little spinner came by. We chatted for a bit, and then she asked if I wanted a dance. I was totally ready since I'd been sitting around doing nothing, so we hit the couches. What happened next was risky, irresponsible, but incredibly satisfying. Hopefully my dick doesn't fall off.

So keep in mind that in my previous report, I mentioned that she wouldn't kiss me. I got a few kisses today, which was nice. Here's how the dance broke down. First 341: about 1/2 a song getting her wet, and me sucking on her little tits, which gets me amped up. I pull out junior, and when I thought she was going to tease me, she gets down with sweet oral skills. It doesn't last too long, but she's super wet and horny. She climbs on top and puts him in. (this is where I should've put on protection). An amazing ride, and she's super wet, to the point where I'm just like gliding with pure ease. I tell her to slow down because I'm super sensitive and don't want to cum (I wasn't sure exactly where to cum. In her?). We keep going and when the 341 is over, I didn't get a chance to cum. So we do another. She hops back on and she's still crazy wet. I start rubbing her asshole and she seems to like it. I gradually massage my fingers deeper, and I get ZERO backlash. So I thought, shit, why not? I massage her ass till it gets nice and relaxed, and then position it in. Heaven. She's riding it and massaging her clit (at which point she cums at least twice) and then I jump in and start fingering her pussy. I can feel my cock (in her ass) from inside her pussy, which, if you haven't felt that before, will totally turn you on. I told her I'm going to cum so hard, and she gives me no direction. So I fill her ass with my huge load (I hadn't came in a few days so I know it was a lot). She didn't seem to mind. We got up, and I paid her. 80 plus an extra. 20 because she SOO deserved it (I thought of you Camel when I gave her that 20. LOL). I was supposed to get her number but she was in the back afterward for quite a while, and I had to leave. I know I'll see her again. I wonder what acronym this would make... lol BBBJ+BBFS+BBA+CIA?

Good times.

Out.

[QUOTE=Into N Out; 1754793]Ok, two parts to this story. The first will be brief. I went to monarchs. It is a very well-designed place. It has a real classy feel. The problem is that it's in Industry. The place was super dead, and only one of the 4 girls approached me (that Indian one, who I politely declined). My visit ended within 20 min of sitting there. If that place wants to last, they better have deals that are too good to be true; otherwise, they are going under. The good news is that if you're in the area, it's free admission this month, so it's worth checking out since it's free.

So after my quick visit to Monarchs, I went to trusty ol' Paradise. I wrote a report a while back about "#23," and after waiting around for a while, the little spinner came by. We chatted for a bit, and then she asked if I wanted a dance. I was totally ready since I'd been sitting around doing nothing, so we hit the couches. What happened next was risky, irresponsible, but incredibly satisfying. Hopefully my dick doesn't fall off.

So keep in mind that in my previous report, I mentioned that she wouldn't kiss me. I got a few kisses today, which was nice. Here's how the dance broke down. First 341: about 1/2 a song getting her wet, and me sucking on her little tits, which gets me amped up. I pull out junior, and when I thought she was going to tease me, she gets down with sweet oral skills. It doesn't last too long, but she's super wet and horny. She climbs on top and puts him in. (this is where I should've put on protection). An amazing ride, and she's super wet, to the point where I'm just like gliding with pure ease. I tell her to slow down because I'm super sensitive and don't want to cum (I wasn't sure exactly where to cum. In her?). We keep going and when the 341 is over, I didn't get a chance to cum. So we do another. She hops back on and she's still crazy wet. I start rubbing her asshole and she seems to like it. I gradually massage my fingers deeper, and I get ZERO backlash. So I thought, shit, why not? I massage her ass till it gets nice and relaxed, and then position it in. Heaven. She's riding it and massaging her clit (at which point she cums at least twice) and then I jump in and start fingering her pussy. I can feel my cock (in her ass) from inside her pussy, which, if you haven't felt that before, will totally turn you on. I told her I'm going to cum so hard, and she gives me no direction. So I fill her ass with my huge load (I hadn't came in a few days so I know it was a lot). She didn't seem to mind. We got up, and I paid her. 80 plus an extra. 20 because she SOO deserved it (I thought of you Camel when I gave her that 20. LOL). I was supposed to get her number but she was in the back afterward for quite a while, and I had to leave. I know I'll see her again. I wonder what acronym this would make. LOL BBBJ+BBFS+BBA+CIA?

Good times.

Out.[/QUOTE]I've been waiting for someone else to comment on this amazing story, so I guess I'll do it. I agree that this was risky and probably stupid but it sounds hot as hell! I don't know if 10% of the men here could have resisted. Thank you for the contribution Into N Out. I take my hat off to you good sir.

[QUOTE=TreasureHunter;1757638]I take my hat off to you good sir.[/QUOTE]I see what you did there, LOL.

What is it about Paradise that makes these girls do bb? Honestly like 8/10 times I've been there, I get multiple dances and at least one of them will just try to sit on it bb, no questions asked. Maybe management encourages it?

[QUOTE=Not Shy Guy;1753970]Those are posted by other please, not by anyone officially affiliated with the club.[/QUOTE]They are accurate, but some of the names are wrong."Jazz" is Jess. Mya and the new teen spinners are left off the RTRC."Jenna" is Erica's sister. Etc.

[QUOTE=TreasureHunter;1757638]I've been waiting for someone else to comment on this amazing story, so I guess I'll do it. I agree that this was risky and probably stupid but it sounds hot as hell! I don't know if 10% of the men here could have resisted. Thank you for the contribution Into N Out. I take my hat off to you good sir.[/QUOTE]At the rate he's going I see two ways this ends.

1) Baby Daddy to one of the girls.

2) STD-Ville.

Enjoy the BBFS!

Thank you, Freaker, and Pjams, for your insightful commentary. -___-

atFreaker, to answer your question. "let us know what other girls you've been with since that". Your answer is [U]all of them[/U]. I don't know why my behavior should determine which girls you plan to have dances with in the future. I suspect that BBFS is not an option for you, so you're obviously protected. But you're welcome to read my reports in case you want to know all the girls with whom I've had interactions. They're all there, well many of them. BTW, what the hell is BBG (emphasis on the "g")? And if my report seems like TMI, then I think you're on the wrong site, buddy -- but then again, you did read the whole thing, so maybe it was more interesting/readable than you thought. I've seen some way more graphic images of ugly SWs than what I've posted, but I'm not one to judge. Before you criticize, build up some credibility.

atYoungster420, I'm assuming you're young / look young. If that's the case, this could be part of it. Some dancers genuinely just don't care (very few) , others are inclined to mess around if they're attracted to you or think you look innocent enough to be clean. It's dumb of them (and of me, too) , but it does seem to happen.

p.s. Apparently, my inbox was full. I'm clearing it out now.

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[QUOTE=Into N Out;1758586]p.s. Apparently, my inbox was full. I'm clearing it out now.[/QUOTE]IntoNOut. Just keep doing what you are doing. By far, you are the most entertaining / helpful poster here. BTW, BBG is BBGreek.

All of us appreciate your detailed reports. I personally have been reading them for awhile now and that's the main reason I keep coming back.

Thanks for the reports, playa!

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[QUOTE=Freaker;1759407]I have plenty of credibility as FrKr116 on Zbone. Ask around. You can see my many forum posts there now under retiredposter5413. Buddy. I'm not going to flame you or disrespect you. No worries. Please understand, from my point of view, this forum is pretty much open to all, including LE and club management. I'm not on the wrong site. Post away. But tell the truth, mister senior member. I know many of the Paradise girls outside the club, they are friends, and friends of friends, and we will call BS everytime we see it posted here. Of course, if you post something true, we will award you with the title of Master Senior Member. I did enjoy reading your post. Very good literary skills. A little over-active imagination, but good reading. Peace my friend.[/QUOTE]Congrats on being a substantial poster on zbone. There is, however, no reason for me to be over-imaginary in my postings. Not for the fear of LE seeing it, nor to impress any members here. That said, I really don't have to justify the very truthfulness of my report. As with all my reports, they are 100% accurate. I wrote it literally when I got home, exactly as it went down. I leave the fiction for the fictive (I believe George Carlin said this once). I will say, though, that when you write,"I know many of the Paradise girls outside the club, they are friends, and friends of friends," I automatically begin generating prejudices about who you are and what you look like (not necessarily a good thing). In my years of experience, girls hang out with two types of guys outside the club: 1) old guys that spend a lot of money (the group in which I figure you fall) , or 2) good looking young guys who, more often than not, don't even go to the clubs. A little about me: I'm young, very fit, and good looking, very educated, (I'm often considered by dancers as 'not the type' to be in a club); and my participation in the hobby leans mostly on the side of "paying for them to leave," rather than "paying for them." I'm in a relationship, so this hobby functions perfectly to acquire NSA action (with a multitude of women) in a very covert way. I get dancers' numbers for two reasons: to discuss their cleanliness (if we went BB) , or to get OTC privileges (I rarely do this. Takes too much commitment; I did, however, hook up with a waitress at DVCOI, which was fantastic).

I will say, though, that I'm obliged you thought my experience was unreal. It only proves how insanely privileged I was to have received what I did. And BTW, I went back on Thursday, and received the same treatment, minus the BJ. Good day to you, sir.

P. S. I'm "sirlapdancealot" on zbone (I've posted a couple of times, but I prefer this site more). ... and thank you, JonHomes.
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[QUOTE=Freaker;1759407]I have plenty of credibility as FrKr116 on Zbone. Ask around. You can see my many forum posts there now under retiredposter5413. Buddy. I'm not going to flame you or disrespect you. No worries. Please understand, from my point of view, this forum is pretty much open to all, including LE and club management. I'm not on the wrong site. Post away. But tell the truth, mister senior member. I know many of the Paradise girls outside the club, they are friends, and friends of friends, and we will call BS everytime we see it posted here. Of course, if you post something true, we will award you with the title of Master Senior Member. I did enjoy reading your post. Very good literary skills. A little over-active imagination, but good reading. Peace my friend.[/QUOTE]Your perspective is appreciated and you're not alone. Many here have no doubt been skeptical of some of I&O's posts over the years. But having observed the arc of his reports and played in his playgrounds in some cases directly following some of his leads, my opinion is that the only time I believe his posts are ruled by imagination over factual reporting is when he tells us and himself that the day has arrived when he will insist on safe play even when the dancer is building a reckless momentum. We've heard that a few times from him but the little head rules, as it does most of us most of the time.

If you are a player during Paradise day shifts in these times, I don't know how you can be so skeptical. The place is absolutely out of control. I've gone to this club sporadically since it first opened and I've never seen it cutting loose as it has been over the last 1-2 years. I can't speak to night shift or most weekday dayshifts. But I have been a semi-regular on weekend dayshifts for a couple of years and nothing would surprise me. The service itself is nothing surprising - its more the willingness of enough of the more desirable girls to just go for it without discussion and without a front end contract for a tip. Some of my own behavior has surprised me by going along with what a few of these dancers have been perpetrating. Not that I've dived into any chica's culo, nor would I if I was invited, even with protection.

FWIW, my bona fides with Zbone are at least equivalent of yours under different handles at a different time. I'm not there anymore beyond a short peek in since I'm a 20th Century man and the new ZBone is for denizens of the 21st Century. Though I think I still have mod status. I was basically a "founding father" of the ZBB when Z opened it up in the late 90's and we were a tight group back in the day. Z, Sax, Benn, et al. Regular ZCons, the "Sumo" era. Dancers were often involved participants and it was all good will and wide open sharing. Almost innocent by comparison to these cynical times. I also have had way more than my share of dancer "friends" and even a couple of dancer friends with benefits, and had my own very close up view behind the curtain.

One of the lessons I learned early on is that most dancers are no straighter with their colleagues and friends than they are their customers. It's black smoke all around to cover the white smoke. True friendships among dancers rarely exist. Strip club world is a model of rapidly shifting alliances. Quality time spent with "true friends" and special customers only affords the opportunity for more profound myth building. As a "friend" you get skyscrapers built on lies instead of mere townhouses that a casual customer may inhabit. Though over time enough of the truth may spill out to where a real biography may be constructed. And finally, the very last thing most dancers share with each other is their most reckless behavior with customers and they do their best to put up cover. 2 weeks ago I did a couple of dance sets with a young veteran of some notoriety among a few members here (she's not around all that often these days). Her program worked its way from simmer to very hot, but when the dance area cleared and it was only she and I, she turned it up to a rolling boil and I'm not proud, but I went all I&O and shocked myself by going with the flow that she initiated. Then last week the other side of the coin when another notorious dancer provider lowered the heat 70% from what I and others have come to expect from her. Quite surprising but still hot enough for me.

Its StripClubWorld. A world where preset expectations are routinely crushed, for better and for worse, knowledge is merely an educated hunch, and lines of logic easily get bent and redirect to anarchy and chaos.