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Personally it sounds like a well executed scam / hustle to me. Marlowe. Did you not question the chick? I know I would of! LOL. IDK. Maybe ask for a badge #? It goes against all rules and probably would be thrown out in court (I am not no lawyer though) and does sound like entrapment or a really dedicated UC to show you her che che's. Hmm. That would have cleared all these "what if" questions up surely though. Should of just had them arrest you. Or would that of mean their Pimp shows up? Hmm. Idk man. 2 black fm ucr officers? I mean not impossible. But when they do these stings 99.9% of the time isn't there a male or 2 male officers standing by just in case "ish goes down" ie: a struggle and or fight! I mean just a little while ago there was that botched sting off fig that ended up all over the news and a chase that followed and the UC I believed was harmed. I don't know I'm calling BS and thinking someone impersonated and that is a serious offense if so. Any more details you may have left out? Reads like a good novel nonetheless. Sucks being -$1400 though. Wow.

[QUOTE=Marlowe;2303549]I am not sure which of these it was. What I am sure of is that I was laying on the bed naked in the Notel when she (still dressed) asked me for the condom and the $. When I gave it to her she pushed me down on the bed and whipped out a badge (which was definitely real) and identified herself as UCLE.

I would welcome anyone else's take on this. I was out about $1400 but at least I got to go home in my car, with no paper record being made.[/QUOTE]Marlowe,

Sorry to hear this happened to you but you got robbed. There is no question about it:

1 - This is Los Angeles. Cars that pull up along side you want to do something bad. When it happens to me a I shrug my shoulders and say "no hablo ingles".

2 - Pulling into a location where someone can jump into your car. Not good. You never know who is hiding in the back seat.

3 - Real undercover cops will never get into a mongers car. Its too dangerous. An undercover cop posing as a hooker was robbed and had her gun taken in South LA just a few weeks ago!!

4 - LAPD badges can be purchased on Ebay for around $8. A little piece of shiny metal means nothing to me.

5 - Undercovers don't need to call for backup. They are being monitored at all times.

6 - Taking your cash? That should have been a flashing red flag to you that you were being robbed.

7 - Turn of the body mic? For what? To save the batteries? No, its called a "confidence move". Its her attempt to reinforce to you that she a make believe cop.

8 - $1000 ticket? 2 things. 1 - This is not Mexico. You don't pay tickets on the spot. 2 - Tickets don't have prices on them. You find at the cost when you goto court.

9 - Getting into the supposed UC car did you see police radios or just the sticker from the rental car saying not to smoke? Communication is super important to cops. They use super heavy duty radios (not ones you can get at Big 5 Sports). No commo no cops.

10. Driven around to get cash from ATMs? In my native Colombia its called "paseo millionario" or the millionaire ride.

11. A two hour shopping spree? Please, please please tell me you made that up or are joking!! I'm having trouble computing that. . .

[QUOTE=Marlowe;2303564]I was wondering about that. Maybe she was just a Sheriff's reserve member. I don't know if they are well paid. Maybe she was just looking for some extra Christmas cash and saw an opportunity. All I know is that I was naked and she had a badge, so I was just worried about my life being ruined. The money was a little more than 1/3 a month's pay. I can make that back because I still have a job, and will still have a pension. If I were arrested formally, all bets are off on that.

It happened exactly as I described, I don't have any reason to make it up. Everyone should be on the lookout for two Black chicks ina white Toyota 4 Runner and give them a wide berth.[/QUOTE]I go with the con artist, I don't think a real LEO would spend that much time, and in a store they will be seen and photographed surveillance in you change your mind. If by chance you had their license number, I would call in in to LEO and thye would jump on it for impersonating a cop.

However, I might have done the same thing in your position, so I home I won't get in that position.

I think in LB, on LBB someone was working it the same way. As an old white guy, a hot black chick in a car rolled her window down and asked if I wanted a date, I said no and reported it here (and the response back they were working a scam.

Alos, anything in the world can be faked, so why not a fake badge.

[QUOTE=PincheGringo;2300912]My ID has NEVER been scanned at a no-tel. Strip clubs are another story. I would only use it at no-tels. Hell, taking a prostitute to a no-tel is illegal. It is my problem if I get caught. I am a big boy.[/QUOTE]Just letting you know dude. They in fact did scan my I'd (so it does happen.) I had the same thought to get one (decided not to.) Yes, dating ****** is illegal. Fake ids are federal felonies!

Hey, marlow was one of the BSW lite skin / cute? Was flagged by a suv a while back. Don't remember the model tho.

[QUOTE=PoonHound;2303864]Hey, marlow was one of the BSW lite skin / cute? Was flagged by a suv a while back. Don't remember the model tho.[/QUOTE]1st of all it was a Rav4, not a 4 Runner, the Rav4 is smaller, but definitely white. The one that made the "bust" in the room was not really lite skinned, more medium complected. Actually she resembled Tye, that crazy BSW that used to cruise LBB trying to get people to pull over and date her, the one that stole BC's cameras, but she would have to be older than this chick was.

I guess I would add the following addendums to try to prevent such a situation happening to any of you: #1-don't ever disrobe until the girl takes her clothes off-we all have probably done this several times, but no more. #2-$50 is a lowball offer, be suspicious of any girl who starts at that price, no matter where you are discussing it.

I am pretty sure it was a scam, but then there was that badge! Also the way she was speaking at first was very believable, as we were driving around I became more and more suspicious, especially because of her skanky friend's driving. However, since they had my keys, phone and wallet, there was nothing I could do but play along and hope for the best.

Some of us might have just slapped her phone out of her hand, told her hell no, beat it, put on our clothes and left, but that only works if she didn't have back up. When the black and whites break down the door and cuff you, you would have regretted it. Anyway, that is not how I roll.

[QUOTE=FunTrust;2303748]I go with the con artist, I don't think a real LEO would spend that much time, and in a store they will be seen and photographed surveillance in you change your mind. If by chance you had their license number, I would call in in to LEO and thye would jump on it for impersonating a cop.

However, I might have done the same thing in your position, so I home I won't get in that position.

I think in LB, on LBB someone was working it the same way. As an old white guy, a hot black chick in a car rolled her window down and asked if I wanted a date, I said no and reported it here (and the response back they were working a scam.

Alos, anything in the world can be faked, so why not a fake badge.[/QUOTE]I didn't get the license # unfortunately and they drove off in a rush after tossing me my belongings so I didn't really have a chance to. I will never accept any type of solicitation from any girl, no matter how hot, it isn't worth the risk. However, if what she told me is true, that you can pick up a UCLE decoy on the street and take them to a Notel, and experience the same scenario, then I will confine myself to dating only girls that I know.

My questions are, she drove up and asked me to pull over and talk to her, she exposed herself to me in my vehicle and solicited the act and even quoted the price, then rode in my vehicle three blocks to the notel. Isn't this entrapment? Are there no longer any limits on the actions of UCLE decoys?

[QUOTE=ChrisPoontang;2303727]Marlowe,

Sorry to hear this happened to you but you got robbed. There is no question about it:

1 - This is Los Angeles. Cars that pull up along side you want to do something bad. When it happens to me a I shrug my shoulders and say "no hablo ingles".

2 - Pulling into a location where someone can jump into your car. Not good. You never know who is hiding in the back seat.

3 - Real undercover cops will never get into a mongers car. Its too dangerous. An undercover cop posing as a hooker was robbed and had her gun taken in South LA just a few weeks ago!!

4 - LAPD badges can be purchased on Ebay for around $8. A little piece of shiny metal means nothing to me.

5 - Undercovers don't need to call for backup. They are being monitored at all times.

6 - Taking your cash? That should have been a flashing red flag to you that you were being robbed.

7 - Turn of the body mic? For what? To save the batteries? No, its called a "confidence move". Its her attempt to reinforce to you that she a make believe cop.

8 - $1000 ticket? 2 things. 1 - This is not Mexico. You don't pay tickets on the spot. 2 - Tickets don't have prices on them. You find at the cost when you goto court.

9 - Getting into the supposed UC car did you see police radios or just the sticker from the rental car saying not to smoke? Communication is super important to cops. They use super heavy duty radios (not ones you can get at Big 5 Sports). No commo no cops.

10. Driven around to get cash from ATMs? In my native Colombia its called "paseo millionario" or the millionaire ride.

11. A two hour shopping spree? Please, please please tell me you made that up or are joking!! I'm having trouble computing that. . .[/QUOTE]I am not making any of this up. It sure seemed like we were in there that long, it may have been less than an hour, but they kept asking for different items, and adding to them. I wasn't even going to report about it, I was so embarrassed, but then I remembered how I have been helped by others posting their misfortunes, so I felt I owed it all of you to put out the word so nobody else falls for this. I wonder what would have happened if I had had less that $100 in my wallet, if the extra cash created the opportunity. What would you have done once she had your wallet, keys and phone?

[QUOTE=Gpc1085;2303628]Personally it sounds like a well executed scam / hustle to me. Marlowe. Did you not question the chick? I know I would of! LOL. IDK. Maybe ask for a badge #? It goes against all rules and probably would be thrown out in court (I am not no lawyer though) and does sound like entrapment or a really dedicated UC to show you her che che's. Hmm. That would have cleared all these "what if" questions up surely though. Should of just had them arrest you. Or would that of mean their Pimp shows up? Hmm. Idk man. 2 black fm ucr officers? I mean not impossible. But when they do these stings 99.9% of the time isn't there a male or 2 male officers standing by just in case "ish goes down" ie: a struggle and or fight! I mean just a little while ago there was that botched sting off fig that ended up all over the news and a chase that followed and the UC I believed was harmed. I don't know I'm calling BS and thinking someone impersonated and that is a serious offense if so. Any more details you may have left out? Reads like a good novel nonetheless. Sucks being -$1400 though. Wow.[/QUOTE]The point is that I couldn't afford to challenge her. I had to be at work today, the last day before a three week break, and if I had been arrested, that would have been a problem. I am sure it was a scam now, but at the time I had no choice but to play along. I am home, safe, and I have my car. Wasn't willing to risk any of that by being difficult.

[QUOTE=Christophe1;2303604]A third possibility is that they are parking enforcement, aka meter maids. If memory serves me right, those people have official metal badges and are ruthless as hell. Overtime is dependent on writing tickets and some make triple digit incomes from stealing our money.

I know there is corruption in LA LEO, but it's hard to think that cops would be that dumb. I mean, who really doesn't know ATMs have limits? LEO = YES, Meter Maid = NO.

PS. That sucks Marlowe. You were breaking a few monger rules. Don't have so much cash on hand. Sex for money is illegal. Don't break the law.[/QUOTE]Agreed. The reason that I had that much money is that a friend had paid me back what he owed me, and I was too lazy to find an ATM and deposit it. I wasn't trying to find a date, I was just on my way home, as unbelievable as that might seem, but it had been a hard day at work, and I wasn't thinking too clearly when the opportunity presented itself. We learn from our experiences, both good and bad, and I certainly learned from this one. Had I seen anything in the HG that I liked, I would have stopped and put the extra cash in the trunk in my briefcase before approaching her, I'm not a novice, it was just a crime of opportunity and I got caught slipping.

[QUOTE=Marlowe;2304176]I am home, safe, and I have my car. Wasn't willing to risk any of that by being difficult.[/QUOTE]In the end, that may have been cheaper. I never trip about losing some cash in a screwed up situation. The potential downside to many confrontations makes the money lost trivial by comparison.

[QUOTE=CresProphet2;2304196]In the end, that may have been cheaper. I never trip about losing some cash in a screwed up situation. The potential downside to many confrontations makes the money lost trivial by comparison.[/QUOTE]That says it all. We can always make more money.

[QUOTE=Marlowe;2304176]The point is that I couldn't afford to challenge her. I had to be at work today, the last day before a three week break, and if I had been arrested, that would have been a problem. I am sure it was a scam now, but at the time I had no choice but to play along. I am home, safe, and I have my car. Wasn't willing to risk any of that by being difficult.[/QUOTE]I see. Thanks for sharing! There's a lot of possibilities at play here. Could of been UC rogue / shady LE that went against standard practices? You never know these days. But really really really unlikely. 0001% chance if you ask me. I see you're a senor member so I don't discount this story is real one bit & that this happened to you and I do feel for you that that in fact happened. And yes some are saying it's better to just cut losses and fork the $ over especially since like you said you had work next day. The problem is (I don't post much on here used to read moresoRB but I'm sure you guys had a safety & rules thingy on here at some point as well) You did (even as a senior member) go against a couple golden rules though my brother which done different I don't know if it puts you in the same situation regardless if these 2 blk UC's were legit or really really good scam artists and essentially "scum". (We could debate whether they were real or not all day here).

1- You said they had a badge but did they have handcuffs and ever threaten or say they would cuff you?

2- A Badge # is key as I said before. I know in the moment you didn't think of it.

So one got in your car at carwash and the other followed in their own car?. Is this correct? I mean LE has been bending a lot of rules if you haven't watched the news lately but for the life of me I can't see them being LE. Risking their jobs for $1,400? Last I checked they get paid pretty well. And the fact that they went shopping for 2 hours as you stated with the cash while having you there? (were you in car? Or store with them? This makes 0 sense to me here hmm.) would just be dumb because like someone else stated they would have been on surveillance.

Curious to know what you're going to do, if anything, now Marelowe? Keep us updated and thanks for sharing bro. We need to share so these 2 can be exposed. That is what msg boards like this are essentially for in the first place! So thanks again for sharing your story and stay up bro!

[QUOTE=Marlowe;2304248]That says it all. We can always make more money.[/QUOTE]Marlowe that sucks. It's a scam not UCLE in my opinion. I've had the girls pull along side and try to offer it up I just look at them like I'm completely offended and roll up the windows, especially after reading about other victims here. This is an elaborate scam that you had done on you. They know you're unlikely to call the Po po because you don't want your name on it. I think you did the right thing forking over your pocket money.

[QUOTE=Ivonnahumpalot;2304338]Marlowe that sucks. It's a scam not UCLE in my opinion. I've had the girls pull along side and try to offer it up I just look at them like I'm completely offended and roll up the windows, especially after reading about other victims here. This is an elaborate scam that you had done on you. They know you're unlikely to call the Po po because you don't want your name on it. I think you did the right thing forking over your pocket money.[/QUOTE]Thanks, and if this ***** rolls up on anyone else, don't fall for it, but report, report, report. The more that we report on her, the faster she will have to give this scam up. I hope you are all correct, and that UCLE decoys can't openly entrap us.

[QUOTE=Marlowe;2304375]Thanks, and if this ***** rolls up on anyone else, don't fall for it, but report, report, report. The more that we report on her, the faster she will have to give this scam up. I hope you are all correct, and that UCLE decoys can't openly entrap us.[/QUOTE]Marlowe, thanks for sharing this, we can all learn from this, a good reminder for me to never let my guard down when I'm on the hunt, no matter what.

Was there ever a gun shown?

The Tall Man.

[QUOTE=Marlowe;2304375]Thanks, and if this ***** rolls up on anyone else, don't fall for it, but report, report, report. The more that we report on her, the faster she will have to give this scam up. I hope you are all correct, and that UCLE decoys can't openly entrap us.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the heads up. Hope that never happens to you again. I am a big fan of your reports.

[QUOTE=TheTallMan;2304427]Marlowe, thanks for sharing this, we can all learn from this, a good reminder for me to never let my guard down when I'm on the hunt, no matter what.

Was there ever a gun shown?

The Tall Man.[/QUOTE]No guns were shown, just the badge. After that she had all of my things, car keys, wallet and phone, so I was pretty much at their mercy. I didn't think that the UC decoys carried guns anyway. She couldn't have hidden one given the tight clothing she was wearing. I am pretty sure this was a scam, but I couldn't afford to take the risk of challenging them. Money can be replaced.

What I am waiting for is for these two con artists to pull this scam on another monger and to see if: 1) they report about it, and 2) how they react to it given that they have info that it is probably a scam. If I had known about this, most likely I would have just driven off without stopping to even talk to her, let alone let her get into my car to discuss business. That was my 1st inclination anyway, but it had been a hard day at work, and the little head got the better of me.

On another note, what a difference a day makes. Yesterday was my last day working, I retired after 37 years. It means that now if I did get arrested, I wouldn't have to worry about losing my license, because I no longer need it, so I might have been more likely to brazen it out with these bitches, actually only the one, because I would never have gotten into their vehicle, if it was a scam I would have retrieved my belongings got dressed and left, and if it was a legit bust I would have left in cuffs in the back of a squad car. I don't know if I would have challenged her but I like to think that I would have.

Whatever the case, will the next victim or intended victim be brave enough to report about it. This helps us all.

[QUOTE=Marlowe;2304936]What I am waiting for is for these two con artists to pull this scam on another monger and to see if: 1) they report about it, and 2) how they react to it given that they have info that it is probably a scam. If I had known about this, most likely I would have just driven off without stopping to even talk to her, let alone let her get into my car to discuss business. That was my 1st inclination anyway, but it had been a hard day at work, and the little head got the better of me.

On another note, what a difference a day makes. Yesterday was my last day working, I retired after 37 years. It means that now if I did get arrested, I wouldn't have to worry about losing my license, because I no longer need it, so I might have been more likely to brazen it out with these bitches, actually only the one, because I would never have gotten into their vehicle, if it was a scam I would have retrieved my belongings got dressed and left, and if it was a legit bust I would have left in cuffs in the back of a squad car. I don't know if I would have challenged her but I like to think that I would have.

Whatever the case, will the next victim or intended victim be brave enough to report about it. This helps us all.[/QUOTE]All information is helpful. Hopefully you don't think I was ragging on you as that was not my intention. I've made plenty of mistakes mongering myself.

Glad to hear that you can monger in peace now. Did you treat yourself to some of LA tastiest SWs last night?

After 37 years I would have tried my best to overdose on hookers.

I am sure they didn't spot you on Florence. They probably tracked you down fig. An old white guy rubernecking for pussy. They spotted a target. That target was you.

Bummer. 1400 scratch buys a lot of street pussy. Glad you are ok.

[QUOTE=ChrisPoontang;2304961]All information is helpful. Hopefully you don't think I was ragging on you as that was not my intention. I've made plenty of mistakes mongering myself.

Glad to hear that you can monger in peace now. Did you treat yourself to some of LA tastiest SWs last night?

After 37 years I would have tried my best to overdose on hookers.[/QUOTE]No. I am still a little gun shy, not to mention what the loss put a dent in my budget for such things. And there wasn't anything worth loking at on SB last night, lately there rarely is.

[QUOTE=Marlowe;2305160]No. I am still a little gun shy, not to mention what the loss put a dent in my budget for such things. And there wasn't anything worth loking at on SB last night, lately there rarely is.[/QUOTE]The best way to get over being gun shy is to pull your weapon out of its holster and let off a few rounds.

I know I always feel better after a good discharge (internal or other wise).

My current favorite is a girl named Pleasure. She Hawaiian / Asian is usually on Western from 1 am to 4 am and then Sepulveda from 4 am to 6:30 am.

You should look her up.

[URL]www.usasexguide.info[/URL] amazing. Thank you and success in your work!

Remember street mongering we're dealing with the lower end of society after about one year ago an angry dude suddenly ambushed me when I was about get into a motel saying that's her underage sister immediately demanded all my material belonging as compensation. Well I am not stupid if you want to rob me just say so don't lie, anyways that's why I stick to sex parlor now no need worry about safety.

Retirement = Extreme boredom. Anyone who is soon retiring should look at this period as a new opportunity to expand into something new.

Paying for friends. Sometimes I'm too busy or too lazy to try something other than defaulting to the easiest thing. Then again, why not lay your money down on something you believe in?

Nothing beats being with people that get you, and accept you for who you are. To me, we're all a bunch of bros by the camp fire spending the things that matter; time, life experience, and comradery. Viva "Amor Vincit Omnia" muchachos.

Be safe. Be in love. Live like you're dying.

[QUOTE=Marlowe;2305160]No. I am still a little gun shy, not to mention what the loss put a dent in my budget for such things. And there wasn't anything worth loking at on SB last night, lately there rarely is.[/QUOTE]After getting in trouble a few years ago due to my association with a particular girl I was convinced every other girl was some UC tryin to get me. I broke numerous dates with girls over it. And it was all in my head. I still keep my guard up but not to the point of being overly paranoid. You"ll get over it soon enough.

You never pull over or acknowledge a SW trying to get your attention or waving you down while you are driving.

Never.

The sheikh shopping spree is pretty hilarious.

Learn from your mistakes and don't let it happen again.

Also.

Don't ever take off your clothes first and just jump on the bed waiting and lying completely nude.

While girl does nothing.

(That even sounds stupid).

That's for anyone out looking for SW.

[QUOTE=Johng021;2307753]You never pull over or acknowledge a SW trying to get your attention or waving you down while you are driving.

Never.

The sheikh shopping spree is pretty hilarious.

Learn from your mistakes and don't let it happen again.

Also.

Don't ever take off your clothes first and just jump on the bed waiting and lying completely nude.

While girl does nothing.

(That even sounds stupid).

That's for anyone out looking for SW.[/QUOTE]I wouldn't be so critical if I were you. Lots of us have made mistakes and been scammed or robbed, it takes a man to report about it and try to spare others from having the same experience. I guess you have never had a SW who likes to suck your dick while clothed, then strips for F / S when she realizes you aren't going to cum from her giving you head.

I was more pointing out what others shouldn't do.

In no way did I mention others nor their mistakes.

[QUOTE=Johng021;2307832]I was more pointing out what others shouldn't do.

In no way did I mention others nor their mistakes.[/QUOTE]But stay civil. Calling someone's actions stupid is stepping over the line IMHO.

[QUOTE=Christophe1;2305371]Retirement = Extreme boredom. Anyone who is soon retiring should look at this period as a new opportunity to expand into something new.

Paying for friends. Sometimes I'm too busy or too lazy to try something other than defaulting to the easiest thing. Then again, why not lay your money down on something you believe in?

Nothing beats being with people that get you, and accept you for who you are. To me, we're all a bunch of bros by the camp fire spending the things that matter; time, life experience, and comradery. Viva "Amor Vincit Omnia" muchachos.

Be safe. Be in love. Live like you're dying.[/QUOTE]Perspective, fellas. We're all boys here.

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[QUOTE=PoppaChubby;2308253]He said it sounds stupid, which it really does. You're 60 yrs old, you live in the valley. You drive thru the hood daily.

But now its over. $1,400 scratch is friggin hilarious!! Boy, what were you thinking during the 2 hour shopping spree?

Man, I would kill to see a video of the whole thing.[/QUOTE]Wouldn't we all. If there were a video, there would be a chance of identifying this thieving ho and putting a stop to this particular scam of hers.

I'm sure the drive thru ATM got a shot of them.

[QUOTE=PoppaChubby;2312825]As did the store shopping spree video. Marlowe doesn't have the balls to go to the cops & explain how he got robbed of 1400.

And of course he didn't get the license number of the Rav4.[/QUOTE]Sure and you would have (like hell you would have). You are forgetting about Misfit and his troubles with the Ontario Oinkers just for posting pics of SW in this forum. The police are not our friends, and that s especially true during the current climate of combating Human Trafficking by focusing on the consumer (us). I might as well walk into 77th street station, hold out my hands to be cuffed, and get ready to spend $20,000 plus defending myself against a solicitation charge!

I don't think anyone in this forum is going to take a situation like this to the cops. Stop talking through your ass and face the reality of the situation.

[QUOTE=Marlowe;2313024]Sure and you would have (like hell you would have). You are forgetting about Misfit and his troubles with the Ontario Oinkers just for posting pics of SW in this forum. The police are not our friends, and that s especially true during the current climate of combating Human Trafficking by focusing on the consumer (us). I might as well walk into 77th street station, hold out my hands to be cuffed, and get ready to spend $20,000 plus defending myself against a solicitation charge!

I don't think anyone in this forum is going to take a situation like this to the cops. Stop talking through your ass and face the reality of the situation.[/QUOTE]I posted somewhere on this site about a guy that got robbed of 15 k by a crazy girl (short blond in hollywood). So one tenth of that? All knowledge comes with a price.

Hey Pappa, give it a rest. He was doing something in the eyes of LE that is an illegal act, not to mention the myriad of other thoughts that might have been going through his head at the time, I don't know, like maybe getting getting killed. So back off! I appreciate he's still alive to tell us the tale, I'm sure he's learned from the experience. It's a teachable moment for all.

Baggens.

[QUOTE=PoppaChubby;2312825]As did the store shopping spree video. Marlowe doesn't have the balls to go to the cops & explain how he got robbed of 1400.

And of course he didn't get the license number of the Rav4.[/QUOTE]