The Raleigh area "Sugar Bowl" (SA, WYP, SD4 ME)

[QUOTE=Hiamey;4732370]I told a potential SB that am paying my current SB but there is no intimacy because I don't find her sexually appealing to me. The potential SB got upset for using the "Pay". She complained that I don't "PAY" an SB. She only gets an allowance. So I looked up those 2 words, LO AND BEHOLD they are truly synonymous. So who is wrong me or the potential SB. For some reason, these young girls feel they can get an ALLOWANCE and provide intimacy but they are not prostitutes. Just wanted to see what others here think.[/QUOTE]Confused on many levels here:

You have a current SB you pay but "no intimacy because I don't find her sexually appealing to me".

Potential SB you guys are debating over the vernacular of pay vs allowance. Who give a fuck if its. Pay. Allowance. Gift. Help. What ever they want to call it. Fuck them. Give it to them.

And what are you paying the ugly chick for. Sounds like pity.

[QUOTE=Pubb69;4730978]It's all about leverage. They are all out there for your money and want to do as little as possible to get it, it's shameful that some don't get that concept and allow themselves to be used. The majority of the girls on that site are inexperienced with life in general and have some big ideas but are too lazy to achieve anything on their own so they think the site is a shortcut to success and personal achievement. My view is they are just delusional hookers and the current situation is going to let reality sink in real fast.[/QUOTE]I'm not desperate to date one of these chicks, and having some control will play out in the end. I'm sure there are a few girls out there like in times past, if everyone shows patience the girls can finally find some reality.

[QUOTE=Hiamey;4732370]I told a potential SB that am paying my current SB but there is no intimacy because I don't find her sexually appealing to me. [/QUOTE]Dude, no offense but I'm going to need some clarification here. If you're paying her but there's no intimacy what does she bring to the relationship? Unless you mean you're still fucking but it's more provider / client relationship and not more intimate like a pseudo girlfriend?

[QUOTE=Hiamey;4732370]I told a potential SB that am paying my current SB but there is no intimacy because I don't find her sexually appealing to me. The potential SB got upset for using the "Pay". She complained that I don't "PAY" an SB. She only gets an allowance. So I looked up those 2 words, LO AND BEHOLD they are truly synonymous. So who is wrong me or the potential SB. For some reason, these young girls feel they can get an ALLOWANCE and provide intimacy but they are not prostitutes. Just wanted to see what others here think.[/QUOTE]Yes both are the same. But it's just a term they fill better about. That's all. Doesn't make her feel like a hooker. It's also kind of like a father giving his daughter an allowance.

[QUOTE=Banger12;4732617]Confused on many levels here:

You have a current SB you pay but "no intimacy because I don't find her sexually appealing to me".

Potential SB you guys are debating over the vernacular of pay vs allowance. Who give a fuck if its. Pay. Allowance. Gift. Help. What ever they want to call it. Fuck them. Give it to them.

And what are you paying the ugly chick for. Sounds like pity.[/QUOTE]I find you totally funny.

[QUOTE=LookinGood;4732646]Dude, no offense but I'm going to need some clarification here. If you're paying her but there's no intimacy what does she bring to the relationship? Unless you mean you're still fucking but it's more provider / client relationship and not more intimate like a pseudo girlfriend?[/QUOTE]No. We are not fucking. She's just an innocent young gal who needs some money so she can go out with rich friends, and also dress like them. She is getting a degree in engineering.

[QUOTE=JohnHandCock;4732554]Yes it's their illusion so why bust their balloon or argue with them about it. Certainly doesn't get you anywhere and end up costing more than it's worth.[/QUOTE]Completely agree. A SB that is actually going to college or single mother and just needs some help, she gets an allowance. No need to bust anyones bubble or treat her like an STG provider. In their minds, they are not prostitutes because they are doing it for different reasons. IMHO, they should be treated with respect. But the entire time, both parties understand money is being exchanged for sex, so call what you want.

Now as far as giving away money with no intimacy, I would never do it but I kinda understand and can respect his decision depending on the context. If you are the type of person to give money to a friend who is not going to pay it back or a bum, which are very similar in definition, then why not give it to a legitimate struggling college student; kinda makes sense. I don't think he is an idiot for doing it, although, I disagree with this practice because it starts a new standard. If ugly chicks are getting money for nothing then hot chicks should get double pay for nothing and triple for GFE sex. Second, I like a return on investment and anyone on the website knows what the site is about and its not free money. Everything comes with strings. Start giving away money makes it harder for the next guy at the negotiating table. Perfect example is all the ADs requiring deposit requirements on STG. Guess how that started.

[QUOTE=Hiamey;4732894]No. We are not fucking. She's just an innocent young gal who needs some money so she can go out with rich friends, and also dress like them. She is getting a degree in engineering.[/QUOTE]It's your choice of course how or what you choose to do with your money. Just my opinion but in this day and age there are so many more appropriate choices as to who to give money to. A spoiled college girl who is too lazy to work and wants to act high class would not be my first choice or for that matter any choice. Do everyone a favor and tell her to get a fucking job and act responsible with her money.

[QUOTE=ArmyChoc;4733043]Completely agree. A SB that is actually going to college or single mother and just needs some help, she gets an allowance. No need to bust anyones bubble or treat her like an STG provider. In their minds, they are not prostitutes because they are doing it for different reasons. IMHO, they should be treated with respect. But the entire time, both parties understand money is being exchanged for sex, so call what you want.

Now as far as giving away money with no intimacy, I would never do it but I kinda understand and can respect his decision depending on the context. If you are the type of person to give money to a friend who is not going to pay it back or a bum, which are very similar in definition, then why not give it to a legitimate struggling college student; kinda makes sense. I don't think he is an idiot for doing it, although, I disagree with this practice because it starts a new standard. If ugly chicks are getting money for nothing then hot chicks should get double pay for nothing and triple for GFE sex. Second, I like a return on investment and anyone on the website knows what the site is about and its not free money. Everything comes with strings. Start giving away money makes it harder for the next guy at the negotiating table. Perfect example is all the ADs requiring deposit requirements on STG. Guess how that started.[/QUOTE]There's an old rock and roll song which says " Money for Nothing. Chicks for free ". I like the song but I don't remember the name.

[QUOTE=Hiamey;4733161]There's an old rock and roll song which says " Money for Nothing. Chicks for free ". I like the song but I don't remember the name.[/QUOTE]By Dire Straits.

My social media chat is overwhelming, right now. I honestly can't keep straight which girl I'm talking to. I'm creating a spreadsheet. Not joking.

Dancers, salon girls, waitresses, bored and broke college girls. I think the tide has turned in our favor.

I'm just saying, if you don't use burner social media accounts you should be creating them and active.

DON'T DM me, yet!

If any are open to multiple arrangements, I WILL ask and report back / share, of course.

I'm all about generosity, after all. Otherwise I wouldn't be a sugar daddy. RIGHT? Bwahahahahaha.

[QUOTE=VincentCor74;4734525]My social media chat is overwhelming, right now. I honestly can't keep straight which girl I'm talking to. I'm creating a spreadsheet. Not joking.

Dancers, salon girls, waitresses, bored and broke college girls. I think the tide has turned in our favor.

I'm just saying, if you don't use burner social media accounts you should be creating them and active.

DON'T DM me, yet!

If any are open to multiple arrangements, I WILL ask and report back / share, of course.

I'm all about generosity, after all. Otherwise I wouldn't be a sugar daddy. RIGHT? Bwahahahahaha.[/QUOTE]Manna must have fallen from the heavens. I have similar good experiences. I can't keep up with the communication. Am not seeing any of them until this CoronaVirus thing is over. From Raleigh, Greensboro to Charlotte.

[QUOTE=IneptPlayer;4716313]She moved to Fayetteville & goes by Riley. There are some reviews on the Fayettevillle escort board. Here is one of her ads:

[URL]http://fayetteville-nc.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/caucasian_w/if-youre-looking-for-the-best/965989137035[/URL][/QUOTE]Brothers of Raleigh -.

Thank you so much for Riley. She is completely cool and down for most at such a great place. Outside of SA girls coming to Fay, Riley is topnotch for our area. I have sent her info to three other SDs (with her permission, of course), and they all come "WOW and she's a squirter". Have to try her out. You will come back.

Cheers,

Arma.

Brother SDs -.

Had two board buds get me into sugaring (thanks DoggieFan and MadMaxx) - what a great 10 days thus far. I'm bringing in the Raleigh and Wilmington SBs to Fayetteville. Mostly two per day about 2-3 days per week. Negotiation is key. Just weed through the pic sellers, online girls. Etc. Platonic is just a term that can change with the profile say "discretion".

Willing to share some of the better SBs. That I have encountered. DM me.

Cheers,

Arma.

[QUOTE=VincentCor74;4734525]My social media chat is overwhelming, right now. I honestly can't keep straight which girl I'm talking to. I'm creating a spreadsheet. Not joking.

Dancers, salon girls, waitresses, bored and broke college girls. I think the tide has turned in our favor.

I'm just saying, if you don't use burner social media accounts you should be creating them and active.

DON'T DM me, yet!

If any are open to multiple arrangements, I WILL ask and report back / share, of course.

I'm all about generosity, after all. Otherwise I wouldn't be a sugar daddy. RIGHT? Bwahahahahaha.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=ADreamer;4242858]Any intel on this animal lover. I see she is dbl dipping into WYP as well and eager to meet soon.

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/ba84366e-a216-4d58-8bc5-77e2e62d5f24[/URL][/QUOTE]I hear she's back in the game, has anyone contacted her or have had recent meetings?

Could you please post the WYP link? The SA link takes me to a Profile Not Found page.

Thanks!

[QUOTE=LikesGirls;4738602]I hear she's back in the game, has anyone contacted her or have had recent meetings?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=BartonFink;4738690]Could you please post the WYP link? The SA link takes me to a Profile Not Found page.

Thanks![/QUOTE]Her profile loads for me, maybe she blocked you or you blocked her?

But unlikely. If you want to DM me her WYP screen name, that'll verify what I want to know.

[QUOTE=LikesGirls;4738713]Her profile loads for me, maybe she blocked you or you blocked her?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=BartonFink;4738793]But unlikely. If you want to DM me her WYP screen name, that'll verify what I want to know.[/QUOTE]I'm not on WYP so I don't know her screen name there.

So a few things, most of us don't know anyone that has Corona, and nor do these girls. I think they are getting more comfortable meeting vs a few weeks ago.

Second, it's fucking brutal out there. No chicks are making money waitressing or dancing and car payments are coming. A few of the babes that were semi-interested are now setting something up And yes, I offer $50-75 for the first meet and greet because fuck paying a chick just for a meeting to see if you will fuck.

Third, find the girls in less competitive areas just outside the popular area. Those girls get the silent treatment since no one sees their profile and they are good to go.

Just what I'm experiencing. Be safe.

[QUOTE=MythMan2010;4741747]So a few things, most of us don't know anyone that has Corona, and nor do these girls. I think they are getting more comfortable meeting vs a few weeks ago.

Second, it's fucking brutal out there. No chicks are making money waitressing or dancing and car payments are coming. A few of the babes that were semi-interested are now setting something up And yes, I offer $50-75 for the first meet and greet because fuck paying a chick just for a meeting to see if you will fuck.

Third, find the girls in less competitive areas just outside the popular area. Those girls get the silent treatment since no one sees their profile and they are good to go.

Just what I'm experiencing. Be safe.[/QUOTE]PM me the less competitive areas just outside the popular area.

Because of this new situation we are in. I know there has too be some girls working in restaurants etc. That need a little assistance. These are the ones I want to see. So they will fuck you like there man. If you know of any let me know.

[QUOTE=HappyMan22;4742371]Because of this new situation we are in. I know there has too be some girls working in restaurants etc. That need a little assistance. These are the ones I want to see. So they will fuck you like there man. If you know of any let me know.[/QUOTE]Go on SA, or SB. Am chatting with a few right now. And I can't keep up with the communication. Am not meeting yet. Am waiting for this to blow over then I'll be spending dome good times with them.

[QUOTE=HappyMan22;4742371]Because of this new situation we are in. I know there has too be some girls working in restaurants etc. That need a little assistance. These are the ones I want to see. So they will fuck you like there man. If you know of any let me know.[/QUOTE]Just create an account on SA and start reaching out to all the girls you're describing on there. If you don't come off as a creeper you'll get more than you can handle.

I have been working on this one for a wile. Pretty sure she is real but still has GPS even in todays environment. Looking for $600.00 a meet. She really does not want to know what would be required for me to drop 6 bills LOL its definitely not a a quick 1-2 hour meet. But for all of you high rollers out there or someone with better game than you here is one for ya!

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/e39059d7-94e1-499c-b4ef-3c63734a7c7d[/URL]

I've been a paying member to SA for a few months now with moderate success. I'm thinking of letting my subscription lapse though and switch to SB. I've been a non-paying member of SB for awhile and get message notifications all the time that just seem fake. What is your guys opinion on SB as opposed to SA as far as bang for your buck? Thanks.

Anyone ever use airbnb for a meet and if so how did it go. Thinking it would be better than a hotel as its more discreet and easier to setup.

[QUOTE=Sobe69;4742901]I have been working on this one for a wile. Pretty sure she is real but still has GPS even in todays environment. Looking for $600.00 a meet. She really does not want to know what would be required for me to drop 6 bills LOL its definitely not a a quick 1-2 hour meet. But for all of you high rollers out there or someone with better game than you here is one for ya!

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/e39059d7-94e1-499c-b4ef-3c63734a7c7d[/URL][/QUOTE]I met up with her almost 3 years ago, I think for 300. She was pretty and it was a fun time, but honestly she is definitely curvy and not athletic body type, and judging by her social media she's a bit bigger now than she was when I saw her back then. I later found that she was one of a group of women at Chapel Hill that all knew each other and were on the site, and probably compared notes. Like I said, it was a fun time, but better options out there in my opinion.

[QUOTE=ErkTheOne;4743104]I met up with her almost 3 years ago, I think for 300. She was pretty and it was a fun time, but honestly she is definitely curvy and not athletic body type, and judging by her social media she's a bit bigger now than she was when I saw her back then. I later found that she was one of a group of women at Chapel Hill that all knew each other and were on the site, and probably compared notes. Like I said, it was a fun time, but better options out there in my opinion.[/QUOTE]Sounds like she has doubled up on her skills in three yrs 🤣. I haven't been on that site in months. The couple I met from there I negotiated with for around 1-120. Most all have that quick need agenda. I did land one for about 6/7 months but she graduated and moved away. Was fun while it lasted but that was set up on a monthly donation and all you could get any time she was available. Happy hunting.

[QUOTE=ErkTheOne;4743104]I met up with her almost 3 years ago, I think for 300. She was pretty and it was a fun time, but honestly she is definitely curvy and not athletic body type, and judging by her social media she's a bit bigger now than she was when I saw her back then. I later found that she was one of a group of women at Chapel Hill that all knew each other and were on the site, and probably compared notes. Like I said, it was a fun time, but better options out there in my opinion.[/QUOTE]Just a kinder way of describing a fat chick. If the market will bare it they will keep asking for those kind of rates, some.

Guys are desperate enough so they will continue to gossip with each other to find out what is the max they can get.

She and I exchanged texts about a month ago just before the NC restaurants were limited to take out only. She wanted to meet at M Sushi in Durham for 1st date but that was a trek for me so I proposed a very good seafood spot with daily fresh catch and craft cocktails that would be closer to me but no farther for her. No sushi but many other options and highly regarded in Triangle reviews. She had never been there and when she googled it replied that it was too casual and laid back for 1st date. "First few dates are usually fancy upscale restaurants. ".

That told me all I needed to know and I dropped the conversation. Not surprised to see her apparent ask for BCD is based on old photos and in inverse relation to her age and weight gain.

[QUOTE=AzBadger7;4742928]I've been a paying member to SA for a few months now with moderate success. I'm thinking of letting my subscription lapse though and switch to SB. I've been a non-paying member of SB for awhile and get message notifications all the time that just seem fake. What is your guys opinion on SB as opposed to SA as far as bang for your buck? Thanks.[/QUOTE]Am a paying member on both and I think the only difference is SB, what you pay can last for months or years depending on how often you respond or initiate convos. While on SA your payment only lasts for a month with unlimited texts.

Any one have any info / experience with Shae? Tried searching on Greensboro board, but not a lot of info other than she used to escort for an agency.

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/f3f46bce-71e0-41c2-897a-b00c8fd5ec1b[/URL]

[QUOTE=AzBadger7;4749564]Any one have any info / experience with Shae? Tried searching on Greensboro board, but not a lot of info other than she used to escort for an agency.

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/f3f46bce-71e0-41c2-897a-b00c8fd5ec1b[/URL][/QUOTE]Met her probably about a year ago. I believe she said she lives in Burlington at the time, but we met in Raleigh. Decent looking girl, nice body, although I remember being disappointed overall and expecting a better experience. I think she has been around for several years, and has been fairly high volume, so it was a very transactional experience.

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/7231b274-249b-4771-bfb0-74609f2ad91e[/URL]

Careful. Possible time waster. Chatted with her a week or two ago (from Tinder) as she's my type and recognized her picture on SA. After texting back and forth she disclosed she's in PA for the foreseeable future, which didn't stop her from asking for 'allowance' for texting and pictures. I ignored her $ requests and just said I'm happy to meet in person when she's back in town.

Yaya.

[QUOTE=ErkTheOne;4750572]Met her probably about a year ago. I believe she said she lives in Burlington at the time, but we met in Raleigh. Decent looking girl, nice body, although I remember being disappointed overall and expecting a better experience. I think she has been around for several years, and has been fairly high volume, so it was a very transactional experience.[/QUOTE]Met her today, and agree with everything you mentioned. She stills lives in Burlington but we met in Raleigh hotel. Chatted for about 10-15 minutes on SA horror stories, coronavirus and arrangement expectations before getting to the fun. Cute girl like her pictures. Didn't smell like a smoker but as we were kissing, got a mouthful of menthol flavor.

Asked before meeting whether BBFS was possible and she gave me the "I'm not sure. If you're asking me, that means you probably ask other girls. Let me think about it. " No hesitation during the session as far as BBFS, so YMMV. She moans a lot during the session but didn't seem that into it. Finished with CIM with her running to the sink to spit. Not sure about repeating with her, good but not for the price. We originally agreed on 250, but I threw her an extra 50 for having cancelled twice previously on her.

[QUOTE=ADreamer;4242858]Any intel on this animal lover. I see she is dbl dipping into WYP as well and eager to meet soon.

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/ba84366e-a216-4d58-8bc5-77e2e62d5f24[/URL][/QUOTE]So. Has anyone seen her recently? She seemed eager to meet when I contacted her a week and a half ago but I had to cancel for work reasons. Wondering if anyone has any more recent intel.

[QUOTE=AzBadger7;4749564]Any one have any info / experience with Shae? Tried searching on Greensboro board, but not a lot of info other than she used to escort for an agency.

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/f3f46bce-71e0-41c2-897a-b00c8fd5ec1b[/URL][/QUOTE]Seen her a few times. Gotten a bit bigger than those pics. Used to be super in shape body. Her blonde friend does doubles with her. They are ok fun. Nothing spectacular. I'm probably done with that experience.

Anyone ever met this one? She seems pretty open to whatever.

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/66854348-5f54-4341-82b5-6f6b146d9d20[/URL]

[QUOTE=Svt4628;4757944]Anyone ever met this one? She seems pretty open to whatever.

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/66854348-5f54-4341-82b5-6f6b146d9d20[/URL][/QUOTE]Whenever I click on the links for this site it always says profile not available even though I'm logged in. Anybody else have this problem or am I just having issues?