Safe Sex Information and Advice

[QUOTE=Fuzzyek;2690297]Don't you people know BBBJ is pretty much the same as BBFS when it comes to diseases.[/QUOTE]Man, I don't know where your getting your information but BBBJ and BBFS are not even close having the same incident rates of stds, BBFS definitely has a greater probability of transmittable stds. If you will review the work done on stds by The Center for Disease Control in Atlanta Ga, what you will find is, stds transmitted by oral sex while not unheard of are very unlikely, stds transmitted by normal sex while more likely to occur then while having oral sex the incident rate is still very low. Catching an std while having oral sex is highly unlikely, catching an std while having regular sex while still unlikely has a much higher occurrence rate than oral sex. Bottom line is while both practices have a transmittance rate, oral sex has a transmission rate that's considerably lower than normal sex. Neither practice is not with out it's dangers but BBBJ enthusiasts have a far better chance of non std occurrence than BBFS participants. I've participated in both practices and I'm not passing judgement in any way just passing along information. Don't believe me? Go read the the info for yourself, it's available for anyone that wants to take the time to find and look at it. JD.

[QUOTE=Budd2;2690981]About 15 years ago I got gonorrhea from a car date BBBJ. A few years later got it again from an escort date that was bbbj and cfs.[/QUOTE]Number 6 stay away from number 7. LOL.

A few interesting opinions there.

I would say though, that thinking that it is " less likely" to get STD from BBBJ is just a comforting thought.

For example, even if its standard incidence is 0. 01%, to one who gets STD, incidence is 100 %.

Not to forget, that we are dealing with a very high risk population here. (most of the the girls have had sex with hundreds of men, thousands of time).

[QUOTE=Budd2;2690981]About 15 years ago I got gonorrhea from a car date BBBJ. A few years later got it again from an escort date that was bbbj and cfs.[/QUOTE]I have a buddy that had worse luck. He's not a monger and certainly not interested in p4 p anymore. Both times he picked up an SW he got ghonnorea from BBBJ. After reading the CDC research after the first time he decided he was just incredibly unlucky. So he gave it another shot so to speak and got it again. He decided the game wasnt for him. Is he the unluckiest sob on the planet. Probably. Fact is for him infection rate was 100% and guys like him don't show up in CDC data because the go to paid healthcare.

If a girl is just sucking on your head, just make sure she doesn't have a cold sore and your good to go.

Gonorrhea lives in the back of the throat, and if you are getting a deep BJ that hits the back of her throat then the risk of transmission is high.

But, you get a shot in the ass and you're right as rain. The Herp is what scares me more than anything.

Hi Guys,

I dreamt of Henrioco spinner or Caitlin last night and during the encounter my condom broke, I didn't feel it till I pull out ready to pop. I am really scared right now, not sure what would happen. Does anyone have good suggestion, do you know any place to go for discrete treatment. Did some internet searching and found PEP [URL]http://www.cdc.gov/hiv/basics/pep.html[/URL], is good to consider to prevent anything really bad. Can you guys suggest where I can get prescription without using my insurance or identity? Any suggestions are welcome, please PM me if you don't want to post in the board.

[QUOTE=Mautanka;2695841]Hi Guys,

I dreamt of Henrioco spinner or Caitlin last night and during the encounter my condom broke, I didn't feel it till I pull out ready to pop. I am really scared right now, not sure what would happen. Does anyone have good suggestion, do you know any place to go for discrete treatment. Did some internet searching and found PEP [URL]http://www.cdc.gov/hiv/basics/pep.html[/URL], is good to consider to prevent anything really bad. Can you guys suggest where I can get prescription without using my insurance or identity? Any suggestions are welcome, please PM me if you don't want to post in the board.[/QUOTE]Anyone who's had this happen knows it's nerve racking. Odds are you're fine, but if I'm you here's what I do:

*if you're very worried about HIV buy a test (oraquick) and pay her to take it. Results take 20 minutes, and if she s negative there's no need for PEP.

* assuming she's negative for his, I would wait a week or so to see if symptoms show up. If none appear and you want peace of mind you can test w / std express or another reputable online company. In the unlikely event you have something they will have a dr call in an Rx to treat chlamydia or gonorrhea. If you ARE showing symptoms get to a local health department as they have by far the most knowledge in treating a curing run of the mill STDs.

* of course if she tests positive you need to get to an emergency room and get on PEP.

Relax. Odds are you're fine. Try and stay calm and let reason / logic get you through.

[QUOTE=KyGuy30;2696628]Anyone who's had this happen knows it's nerve racking. Odds are you're fine, but if I'm you here's what I do:

*if you're very worried about HIV buy a test (oraquick) and pay her to take it. Results take 20 minutes, and if she s negative there's no need for PEP.

* assuming she's negative for his, I would wait a week or so to see if symptoms show up. If none appear and you want peace of mind you can test w / std express or another reputable online company. In the unlikely event you have something they will have a dr call in an Rx to treat chlamydia or gonorrhea. If you ARE showing symptoms get to a local health department as they have by far the most knowledge in treating a curing run of the mill STDs.

* of course if she tests positive you need to get to an emergency room and get on PEP.

Relax. Odds are you're fine. Try and stay calm and let reason / logic get you through.[/QUOTE]Dude, this is great idea. Thanks, if she tests negative for HIV that will be lot less stress. If she is positive that means I have to go ER. Great advice! Still on 40 hours so I have some time.

[QUOTE=Mautanka;2697299]Dude, this is great idea. Thanks, if she tests negative for HIV that will be lot less stress. If she is positive that means I have to go ER. Great advice! Still on 40 hours so I have some time.[/QUOTE]Let us know how things go.

[QUOTE=KyGuy30;2696628]Anyone who's had this happen knows it's nerve racking. Odds are you're fine, but if I'm you here's what I do:

*if you're very worried about HIV buy a test (oraquick) and pay her to take it. Results take 20 minutes, and if she s negative there's no need for PEP.

* assuming she's negative for his, I would wait a week or so to see if symptoms show up. If none appear and you want peace of mind you can test w / std express or another reputable online company. In the unlikely event you have something they will have a dr call in an Rx to treat chlamydia or gonorrhea. If you ARE showing symptoms get to a local health department as they have by far the most knowledge in treating a curing run of the mill STDs.

* of course if she tests positive you need to get to an emergency room and get on PEP.

Relax. Odds are you're fine. Try and stay calm and let reason / logic get you through.[/QUOTE]Once Again thanks a bunch, as you advised, I visited her and did Oraquick test, which came out negative. But those 20 minutes were really long. You saved me great deal of trouble, I will still be on lookout for other STI, but the big one is out of question now.

[QUOTE=Viktor213;2722177]Creflo (love the name).


3) Can't agree with you here. Lots of mongers go BBFS with SWs and report no issues. There are medical people on this forum that have convincingly argued that BBBJ is more risky than BBFS. Not endorsing either way but this is open for (heated) debate.

Safe hunting.[/QUOTE]Just to throw some numbers out there:

If you're a man, and you have sex with a woman who IS HIV positive, you have a 1 in 2500 chance to get infected (if you actually inject HIV-infected blood into yourself, it's 1 in 500, to give a sense of the virility of the virus).

Now, Atlanta is one of the top cities for HIV infection, and mostly it's in the lower income black community (where almost all SWs come from, of course); about 75% of that is gay black men. Of course, SWs could be sharing needles with their gay black friends, or fucking switch-hitters, or whatever. In Atlanta, about 0. 25% of black women are HIV positive (1 in 400), so just to ballpark it, let's say SWs are ten times more likely to be infected, and that gives us about 1 in 40 (this is an off the cuff ballpark, since I don't have time to review CDC data at the moment.).

That gives us an aggregate risk, if you stick your dick into random, black SW pussy, of about a 1 in 100,000 chance of HIV infection. It's not really very likely (to compare, you have a 1 in 12000 chance of being struck by lightning during an 80 year lifespan). Of course, if you're fucking SWs daily on the way home from work, you'll elevate your risk considerably.

But I'd say fear of HIV infection isn't a rational basis for declining BBFS; arrest and robbery are probably the BIG risks.

(The other big risk is chlamydia; if you fuck 34 random women, you'll probably contract a chlamydial infection, and it's especially rampant among young black women. So if you play raw with SWs fairly often, just consider it a reality that you'll be downing a gram of azithromycin from time to time!

O.

[QUOTE=Ozymandias;2722511]Just to throw some numbers out there:

If you're a man, and you have sex with a woman who IS HIV positive, you have a 1 in 2500 chance to get infected (if you actually inject HIV-infected blood into yourself, it's 1 in 500, to give a sense of the virility of the virus).

Now, Atlanta is one of the top cities for HIV infection, and mostly it's in the lower income black community (where almost all SWs come from, of course); about 75% of that is gay black men. Of course, SWs could be sharing needles with their gay black friends, or fucking switch-hitters, or whatever. In Atlanta, about 0. 25% of black women are HIV positive (1 in 400), so just to ballpark it, let's say SWs are ten times more likely to be infected, and that gives us about 1 in 40 (this is an off the cuff ballpark, since I don't have time to review CDC data at the moment.).

That gives us an aggregate risk, if you stick your dick into random, black SW pussy, of about a 1 in 100,000 chance of HIV infection. It's not really very likely (to compare, you have a 1 in 12000 chance of being struck by lightning during an 80 year lifespan). Of course, if you're fucking SWs daily on the way home from work, you'll elevate your risk considerably.

But I'd say fear of HIV infection isn't a rational basis for declining BBFS; arrest and robbery are probably the BIG risks.

(The other big risk is chlamydia; if you fuck 34 random women, you'll probably contract a chlamydial infection, and it's especially rampant among young black women. So if you play raw with SWs fairly often, just consider it a reality that you'll be downing a gram of azithromycin from time to time!

O.[/QUOTE]How I admit in the pass the only thing I contacted was Gonnerhea but not sure it was from a SW cause I had sex with lots of females about half I didn't use protection.

My mongering, on a regular basis, was to begin exactly 26 years ago, today, and I've always made it strict policy to go bare back. Masturbation beats rubbering up. About half the time, however, SW's insist. Once I'm unable to work things out with them upon a couple of dates, I dump them. In the meantime I try to make regulars out of the willing.

As I've mentioned repeatedly, I take a cup of water and slosh a couple of cap fulls of Clorox in it. Immediately, after fucking, I wash my dick with this solution. I even take a syringe full of it to douche out my pisser. They use about the same thing, Dakin's solution, to wash out wounds, before butchering people at the hospital. People in Mexico even put a little bit of bleach in their drinking water. How else do they get by down there especially in the prisons? Any date, when I rent a notel, I Clorox the shower basin to avoid athlete's foot, and as always bathe thoroughly after any date. Not only that, but I find it expedient to hose down the bed with Raid. Once you get scabbies or a bunch of chigger bites, some previous moger has tracked in, you will, yourself, be convinced that STD's come in other shapes, forms, and fashions besides what is pussie juice transmitted.

One of my regulars has had four kids via abortion therefore leaving her pussie with her maiden rugae. Her pussie is a perfect warm creamy fit, and I worship her pussie more than would God or Satan provided I was able to actually comprehend the ethereal. All this aside, however, save for recommendations, as to safe sex mental health aspects, I've made some unusual observations pertaining to Astroglide usage.

My regular lets me go bare back, but only calls me up during Jane Flow time. As I've mentioned her pussie will slide the way a gal's does, after being run through with a couple of babies, but has maintained a superlative texture as result of her record of having much more premature aborts. We fuck for ten or fifteen minutes, only for her exuberant creaminess to become all gritty directly as I shoot my load. When I pull out, I notice the Astrolglide has formed a condom like sheath over my dick. Her menstrual shedding covers the outside of this with the same rugae texture as the walls of her pussie has. This occurs with th exception of where the Asroglide sheath finally came to rupture.

Point is, that I more than likely had something tantamount to a rubber with the Astroglide along with my regular's shedding being less likely, than fresh bleeding, to be dieseased. These are things the MD won't answer, when asked about, or may not even know for himself. One can, nevertheless, read up on their own. With Astroglide along with Jane Flow fucking, I'm pretty sure I get even more time to clean up, after fucking, before any AIDS or less than that has a chance to reach titer.

[QUOTE=Skraper;2741535]She is most def 'hooked' on that 'stuff'. There is not a middle ground when it comes to addiction and escorts. They are either clean (rare) or full blown addicts. I know several of these girls personally outside of the 'hobby', and know there habits. I've seen the large redhead former BP girl at NA meetings, and surprise, she doesn't post anymore. Several other girls I know from outside the hobby and they don't even know I know what they do and they are all on powerful drugs. Other girls I know from a friendship with a well known long term provider, ie: from in the hobby are also on heavy amounts of hard drugs. The girls who do this full time are living very hard lives and often come from extremly disfunctional families with trauma dating back to childhood. Always remember that when you are dealing with them. It is easy to think of them as ****** and nothing more, but they are people with families who are from this community too. Many of them went to school here and have families / friends that know what they do and why they do it and it is a life full of pain and shame for many of them. The provider I know best is borderline insane from the life and has attempted suicide more than once and compared to the other providers I know her drug use is pretty calm. There girls, the full timers that is, live day to day, call to call, hoping to make enough money to keep a hotel room, have a few meals, and support their habbit, and maybe have something left to help support a kid or two (or 4). When you realize they deal with mostly sleazy scum bags who use them like animals to fulfill perverted fantasies constantly it shouldn't be surprising they resort to harder drugs. And I promise you that they see calls as nothing more than a paycheck, there is no emotional connection and 99 percent of them don't enjoy their visit with you no matter what you think. They don't respect you, don't like you, and aren't attracted to you; they want you to think you are different than the rest, but you aren't. I'm saying this in general about all hobbyists, not anyone specific. If it bothers any of you that the girls are 'out of it' or 'loopy' or have needle marks or smoky and dirty hotel rooms then you need to take a min to think about the world you are entering when you step into their rooms and lives. This is a hobby for you, but a life for them, and make no mistake it is a very hard life even for the most attractive and well reviewed providers. I've been involved in other aspects of this hobby and have known a number of providers in town over the last several years and feel a bit of empathy for them. I don't feel that bad because there are other options in life for these women, they chose to do what they do and most in gboro don't have pimps or anyone forcing them to do things they don't want to do; they are however humans living a dark lifestyle and where there is a life of pain and a history of abuse there is almost always substance abuse. If you don't know by now there is a huge drug epidemic in Guildford county as there is all over these days and backpage girls are very likely to be involved in that side of the business too. No one out there is doing this to save money to buy a condo or a nice car or an education, they are doing it to survive and / or support an expensive habit. That is not news to everyone here, but some posts I've read recently seem really naive. When you pay these girls, you can rest assured that many times that money is going straight to a dealer. If that bothers you then you are in the wrong hobby and need to get a normal girl friend. If it doesn't, and it shouldn't, good. Just a reality check post.[/QUOTE]I tried posting this experience earlier but I was edited for including an arrest report. I have removed references to that and reposting this review. Somebody wishes they had seen your post back in 3rd week of October when he paid her and her friend a visit. Probably the biggest mistake of his life. A visit he have been regretting every day since. She is definitely very hooked on drugs. The guy had the bad luck of cancelling an event the day he went to their place and brought forward his visit one day. Its bad luck because the next day she wasn't available and he would have missed her and her friend which would have been a wonderful blessing that is immeasurable. They are / were extremely high volume girls; very very high volume. Another guy arrived just when the guy I know was still there and they rushed him into another room while they welcomed the new guy and pretending that they had been patiently waiting for the guy all along. After they took the new guy into the room another younger girl (might have been one of their daughters) they were living with now let him out of the house The guy I know has used about 6 to 7 providers and always used latex even for BJ's. After using a massage parlour with a happy ending 3 weeks prior he decided to get a BBBJ and that is a decision he started regretting after seeing them take another guy just like 3 minutes after they were giving him BBBJ to finish they were with another guy mostly because of how potentially easy it was to contract stuff. Well about a week later his fears were confirmed and since then till now its been a total nightmare. 3 minutes BBBJ and a 15 second deepthroat in a 20 min visit has translated in almost $1,000 in out of pocket treatments and complications requiring a urologist visit & hopes of avoiding surgery or permanent damage after almost 3 months of agony with no idea when this will all end. If he had walked in and given them $500 and walked out without touching them he would have come out ahead compared to months of not being able to sit down at work and being forced to lay down all the time. A 30 min visit could easily change your life in ways you never imagined. Most of these girls are not your imaginary booty call substitute or a regular hookup substitute or "friends with benefits" substitute or "kept lady" substitute. They are living hard lives and just want your money for the next fix. They have next to no desire to see you and just need a fix and are doing anything to get that fix. 2 minutes before you came in it was another guy & 2 minutes after you leave its still another guy. They don't care about you nor are they looking out for your health or well being. Those of you who couldn't connect with them in late October / early November got really really lucky. Dodged a real bullet there unless they were the type that did CBJ 100% of the time with no exception. Always do a CBJ with these BP and other girls. Always without exception guys. You are not missing anything and its not less enjoyable if you realize what you are protecting yourself from.