Rants and Stupid shit in Dayton

[QUOTE=MTownUtr;3302616]No I did not offer him a good deal or any kind of deal at all. We both realize where we screwed up and he contacted me after he made that post. I respected the fact that he was willing to admit his wrong and we're going to start over. It's that simple. I don't know why you guys have to read more into things than there are. Gives you something to gossip about I guess. Just like a bunch of old ladies, sitting around gossiping with nothing better to do. Well I have better things to do so I'm out.[/QUOTE]Looks like Lady J is still trying to control us. This forum is for free discussion of our experiences, and we are not "like a bunch of old ladies". She makes a living from those of us that are allowed to see her, and she displays disdain for us. Go back to where you came from.

The issue is, this forum should be a free flow of information, just cause you made a connection or she curled your toes, someone else could have had a nightmare experience. So that's where us smart guys on the forum compile all the information and make a choice to see or not, based on all the info. I wrote a review once, and it was ok, but there was room for improvement. The word got back to her and she corrected everything and became an ATF. It works the other way also, I have heard providers say, this guy was drunk, he stank, etc, and then they write a bad review. But at the end of the day, if most of the reviews from trusted people are positive then a few negatives mean nothing, and sometime providers could learn from a negative review or two. REMEMBER this a forum, not an infomercial! So guys, let people write reviews...good or bad!!!!

[QUOTE=ByronDee;3303464]The issue is, this forum should be a free flow of information, just cause you made a connection or she curled your toes, someone else could have had a nightmare experience. So that's where us smart guys on the forum compile all the information and make a choice to see or not, based on all the info. I wrote a review once, and it was ok, but there was room for improvement. The word got back to her and she corrected everything and became an ATF. It works the other way also, I have heard providers say, this guy was drunk, he stank, etc, and then they write a bad review. But at the end of the day, if most of the reviews from trusted people are positive then a few negatives mean nothing, and sometime providers could learn from a negative review or two. REMEMBER this a forum, not an infomercial! So guys, let people write reviews...good or bad!!!![/QUOTE]We need accurate information to make a decision and that is paramount. I wish I had the honest reviews from our Cincy-Dayton boards when I was in Tampa a year ago. I made a bad decision because there was no information and I paid for it. Nothing bad happened it was a very poor date and I was out $200. However she tried to tell me what to write. LOL! I stomped her and someone else mentioned a similar experience and I still check to see if she has any ads up and I haven't seen anything. Hate to put a girl out of business but to me what we did was not business.

[QUOTE=BuxKA;3303509]We need accurate information to make a decision and that is paramount. I wish I had the honest reviews from our Cincy-Dayton boards when I was in Tampa a year ago. I made a bad decision because there was no information and I paid for it. Nothing bad happened it was a very poor date and I was out $200. However she tried to tell me what to write. LOL! I stomped her and someone else mentioned a similar experience and I still check to see if she has any ads up and I haven't seen anything. Hate to put a girl out of business but to me what we did was not business.[/QUOTE]I see the problems arise when either, 1. The reviewer is not being factual and is just trying to discredit the provider or brag for some reason or another or, 2. The one being reviewed is too arrogant and proud to do some self examination and be critical of themselves or their performance. A person that will not take criticism will never grow and improve. In the forum there us a tendancy for cheap shots that really have no basis, those posts only make a person defensive and should be ignored. If the reviewer and the reviewed would stick to the facts, take the info as a lesson learned without getting defensive the posts would then carry a lot more weight and have a good effect. Quite frankly there are some posts I completely ignore because the poster has a history of not being objective. Really the posts are only as good as the reputation of the person behind it. Good or bad. I beleive each poster is painting a picture of their character every time they post and the words should be chosen wisely. Just my 2 cents. Sorry for the crumby grammer, posting from my phone.

[QUOTE=MTownUtr;3302616]No I did not offer him a good deal or any kind of deal at all. We both realize where we screwed up and he contacted me after he made that post. I respected the fact that he was willing to admit his wrong and we're going to start over. It's that simple. I don't know why you guys have to read more into things than there are. Gives you something to gossip about I guess. Just like a bunch of old ladies, sitting around gossiping with nothing better to do. Well I have better things to do so I'm out.[/QUOTE]Certainly you have better things to do then make disparaging comments about "old ladies".

I'm with DC for two reasons. One, This board should be like Fight Club when it comes to the girls. Don't talk about it--except with advertisers. But too many guys blab about it and / or try to use a bad review as leverage--come on man. Just be straight up.

Two, Sarah and her friends are quite reasonable.

My two cents.

Cletus.

[QUOTE=Dcloser6;3301730]I've been told there are some who are threatening Sarah1983 and her partner Destiny with bad reviews if they don't drop their rates. BULLSHIT. Stop trying to bully the women here. Negotiate all you want, but DO NOT use this board and its power to sway people to take money away from them.

As a long time senior you know I never lie, will always share to those who've earned the right, and always treat the ladies with respect. It has allowed me to enjoy their company while rarely being dissapointed or taken advantage of.

Sarah has ALWAYS been a true provider and Destiny while young and maybe a bit sharp tongued has not tried anything bad or made me feel cheated or lied to. My eyes are open and I'm very very careful so I kow all the tricks. STOP abusing them. Here are two offering you paradise for a very reasonable rate and someone here is runing that for us.

So, if I find out who you are, be prepared, I will be glad to share my displeasure.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=MontyCliff;3304052]Certainly you have better things to do then make disparaging comments about "old ladies".[/QUOTE]Oh oh, now you've done it, she will cross you off her compliant list and not see you. Welcome to the Lady J reject list.

Be safe and careful my friends! I am mostly in Cinci but watch the Dayton board as well. Looks like lots of fun up there this week, but watch out for Uncle as well.

Not sure where to post this, guess this as good as anywhere. Wondering what swing clubs you all would recommend checking out. Anywhere between here and cincy possibly further if you know of a real good one not to far away. Got a lady friend who is really interested in checking one out and having some group fun. Pm if you don't want to post in the open forum. Thanks in advance!

[QUOTE=Jmoney69;3313235]Not sure where to post this, guess this as good as anywhere. Wondering what swing clubs you all would recommend checking out. Anywhere between here and cincy possibly further if you know of a real good one not to far away. Got a lady friend who is really interested in checking one out and having some group fun. Pm if you don't want to post in the open forum. Thanks in advance![/QUOTE]Best club = Princeton in Columbus.

Good club = Club Sinday near Middletown.

OK club = Club 101 in Dayton.

[QUOTE=HoBeau;3313460]Best club = Princeton in Columbus.

Good club = Club Sinday near Middletown.

OK club = Club 101 in Dayton.[/QUOTE]101 is ok but very clicky.

440 in Milford I personally don't like.

Princeton is a great club.

Sinday is picky about who they let in.

[QUOTE=Jmoney69;3313235]Not sure where to post this, guess this as good as anywhere. Wondering what swing clubs you all would recommend checking out. Anywhere between here and cincy possibly further if you know of a real good one not to far away. Got a lady friend who is really interested in checking one out and having some group fun. Pm if you don't want to post in the open forum. Thanks in advance![/QUOTE]Club 101.

I had great times there for awhile but it was years ago.

I always went alone and within an hour some horney housewife would come grab me and say my husband / boyfriend wants to watch. LOL.

Most were in their 30's to 40's and decent looking.

Better looking and better bodies in fact then most "providers".

[QUOTE=PleasureGiver;3313702]Club 101.

I had great times there for awhile but it was years ago.

I always went alone and within an hour some horney housewife would come grab me and say my husband / boyfriend wants to watch. LOL.

Most were in their 30's to 40's and decent looking.

Better looking and better bodies in fact then most "providers".[/QUOTE]This is definitely some stupid shit, but just a story of how I came to exist in our hobby, that the USA Adult Classifieds link proclaiming "why waste your time and money on 'free' pussy" has me inclined to tell. I don't know what the average age of a hobbyist here is, but I have an inclination to believe that being in my mid 30's I am probably in the youngest 20% of our members, and still single. I got tired of going to bars and clubs and wasting money on overpriced drinks and competing with 1-4 other dudes for a piece of ass that I had no guarantee of getting. Sometimes I got lucky, oftentimes I didn't. Not to mention the risk of being arrested for DUI on the way home. I realized that by taking up this hobby my monetary losses would probably be around the same as my weekend excursions at the clubs. And I had a veritable cornucopia of guaranteed ass to choose from, and as long as I played it safe the chances of me being arrested for doing this were far lesser than being arrested for DUI. Well, 8 years later and here I am still. Maybe I'll settle down before I hit 40, but I doubt it LOL.

[QUOTE=BuzzWeiser;3313581]101 is ok but very clicky.

440 in Milford I personally don't like.

Princeton is a great club.

Sinday is picky about who they let in.[/QUOTE]That sums the current situation up nicely. In the glory days a decade ago, there were four clubs in the Dayton area: Dayton Swim & Social, Temptations, 440, and 101. Only 101 remains, 440 moved south, the landlord shut down Tempations, a fire ruined it for Dayton Swim & Social. I heard that there was a new club in the New Carlisle area in the last year or two, but I don't know the name.

I thought I'd post more on the swingers clubs than just my initial quick response. My wife and I are members of Club 101. We have been for many years. We don't go very often anymore as right now she's dealing with the change of life. However we've had the pleasure of going to many clubs here in this state and some out of state as well. Each club has its own clicks and regulars that go almost every weekend. Some clubs welcome "single"men but usually charge them a premium to get in. 101 is this type of Club. Some of the others don't allow single men and others only allow a certain number of single guys. These clubs thrive on couple's and thus try and limit singles access as much as possible. When I say singles I mean men. A single lady is almost always a guaranteed entry in hopes she is the elusive unicorn. Club 440 is also a decent club. Myself I just don't like the travel time to get there and the fact that it's hard to get a room when you want to play. Single guys are at my last visit welcome but again at a premium and that did limit the number at one time.

Club SinDay. We went there once. This place at the time of opening was for the pretty people. Maybe they have changed now I personally don't know but when they were new you had to be like Brad Pitt and Angela to fit in. They may have changed attitude if they are still open. Most clubs like this don't last if they aren't open to all shapes and sizes.

Bluegrass Connections in Ky. Is another decent club.

There's another in Toledo if you prefer to go north but I don't remember the name. Might be pleasuretime or something like that.

All these clubs have "clicks". If you do decide to visit one My best advice is not to be shy but also don't be over bearing either. If you want to approach a couple approach them when they are together. Don't wait til he goes to the bathroom or to get drinks and approach only her. To do that many times will get you shot down. Sometimes they will come to you and ask you to join them. If you aren't interested in them because she's not your type or whatever the reason be courteous about it. If you piss one couple off you're going to make anyone they know there not interested.

One good play to make is take a good bottle of something with you. Whether you want to drink it or not. Find a group that hangs together and if the res an open seat ask if you can join them. Be willing to share that bottle. Again be a gentleman but outgoing. Talk to everyone and have a good time just being there. One thing for certain whether you get laid or not you will leave laughing. The floor show in itself is fun to watch.

We've seen many singles at these clubs. The wall huggers go home depressed. The gentleman who goes and mingled and learns and has a good time gets lucky. My wife loves 3 sums. But she always picked a guy who was out going. Never once did she pick a wall hugger or someone who was shy. She never not did I ever give a chance to a guy who chatted her up while I was away either. Each couple has their own rules and fantasies. You just have to find the one that works for you. Some couple's like to play together, some don't. Some are looking for unicorns, some soft swap, and others anything goes. Its not hard to determine who's wanting what if you mingle.

I hope this information helps.

Stay safe and have fun!!

Buzz.