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Getting the sense we're all sort of arriving there and starting to find our own alternatives. The STG scene sucks. I think you can roughly attribute it to combined effects of backpage shutdown, the fent / tranq thing, covid, and rise of *streaming.
Personally, I'm starting to think about quality over quantity and expanding my horizons. Wrote a review in massage section today you guys might be interested in.
[QUOTE=Gentleman007;6120639]It is good to see that some conversation, develops into a healthy debate about dating. Let's face it, STG is not BP, the quality of the women has decline. BP was a pool of young attractive girls, looking to make a quick buck to support a habit: However, they were pretty and for the most part clean, and they didn't pull a lot of crap like the new findings on STG. As I had posted it before, most of my findings are between 20 to 35 year old I made an exception with a 51 Y.O why?. let's see, she is attractive, sexy and she has a gym body, she is cultured, she is financially independent, amazing home and treats me like a king, and just to mention, sexually she is open to anything, without any strings attached, so why not?. The rest of my time I frequent my young unicorns, I think is a healthy mix. BTW she is a widow, so no worries about husband or significant other.
With the discussions, more ideas pop up for those tired of the ugly surprises that come along with escorts. Keep the conversation going and have a safe hunt.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=ItsSecret;6122074]Getting the sense we're all sort of arriving there and starting to find our own alternatives. The STG scene sucks. I think you can roughly attribute it to combined effects of backpage shutdown, the fent / tranq thing, covid, and rise of *streaming.
Personally, I'm starting to think about quality over quantity and expanding my horizons. Wrote a review in massage section today you guys might be interested in.[/QUOTE]You pretty much nailed it.
I gave up on normal dating along time ago, I'm tempted to give it a shot again because dealing w STG nonsense is just getting old.
Once in awhile you'll come across a BP-like girl who is just trying to make a buck to get her life sorted out but they always disappear after a month or two.
Just following up on the general topic. The problem is right now, you essentially have a missing tier of girls at the right price.
Tier 1 - SW. Typically going to be under 50-60, high risk and not for me.
Ties 2 - Basic escort ranging from 60 to 120 for SS. The problem right now is that these are essentially tier 1 girls in many cases, just at 2-4 x the price, plus now you have to depend on them to answer and schedule and not nod out before sending the room number. Content selling did a number on this tier, driving girls prices up, or out of the game.
Tier 3 - AMP for 160-200 range. We do have some FS places over here, but it's not amazing like Philly. I don't really care to cross the bridge though and it sounds like there's layers of like screenings and stuff now for the really good places. I also increasingly have safety concerns being in Philly at all. The bigger issue is that in the past I have rarely clicked with an Asian provider. The language and cultural gulfs are just so great. For me it approximates what sex with an android might be like. I need to visit a decent one to reevaluate.
Tier 4 - RMP, and the only one I know is RC in Woodbury. Damage 2. 60 but fantastic experience for me today. Might be my sweet spot.
Tier 5 - Tryst etc level girls ranging 500-700 per hr. These are old BP girls, or at least the modern equivalent. Hard to stomach the price but I'm actually considering a couple girls out of Philly. Beautiful girl with good performance in a really nice room downtown. I mean, there's a case to be made.
I'm going to keep my eye on STG, but time to explore and settle into something good. Plan to play with tinder a bit too.
[QUOTE=DonTrask;6119519]Not knocking it, but a lot of guys don't have the game to pull this off. Plus living in a smaller town has its disadvantages if you are married or have a significant other, you don't necessarily want to pee in the pool you are swimming in.
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I too have given up on STG and the escort scene (mostly anyway, I stil have a few favorites, time tested and true, they are worth the money). But my approach is a certain dating site where you only need to provide your first name and you are off and running. So with a burner phone, fake email address and a profile, I've been hitting it out of the park. Most of these women are divorcees so they are looking for the action as much as you are. Now I would never go down on an escort (personal preference, I don't enjoy tasting the last 10 men who were there before me) but go down a divorcee and all of a sudden, you are a hero in her book.
The one thing that I noticed about STG, it seems to be a lot of SWers that simply learned how to hang on to a phone for more than a week. They went from sucking off guys for $20 to charging $120 per pop because they found a way to rent a shitty motel room. To me, the value isn't there and if Necessity is the mother of invention, that's why I spending my efforts on another avenue. And from everything I've reading on this site, the escort market is not improving, not like the days of Back pages.[/QUOTE]Whats this dating site? Pm?
[QUOTE=HunterJay;6119789]I decided to make a Facebook profile for hunting STG is pure trash I like the chicks on Tryst but they want to much info from me like I'm applying for a job and deposit that's a no no no the only Tryst chick I'll try is pornstar Kat Black she confirmed it's her ad on Tryst. I have to try a different route so I'll go the Facebook and Instagram route I'm not into older women but congratulations to Gentlemen007 and Tailgunner success. Also guys try the secret benefits I made an account asking any sex workers available god damn I received so many messages majority of them are young chicks but I do not have the urge at first sight just waiting for one to pop up.[/QUOTE]Surprisingly FB and IG are lowkey good. You can definitely find something if you friend / follow the right people and youll end up getting suggestions on who to add, can even find escorts posting about their regular lives. Right now I got this chick from facebook that I meet once a week, give her some money from 40 to 60 and I got myself a FS for cheap for as long as I want with a decent looking girl. You obviously got to do your research on anyone you meet off FB / IG just in case it brings trouble. Also like someone said grocery stores or dollar stores are a good spot too especially if you go more than once a week you can get lucky. As long as you are average looking or arent weird you can definitely find someone who either needs money or just needs a one nighter but you definitely won't find girls in their 20's most likely early 30's to late 40's are the ones youll find success with and you also can't go in thirsty you got to let it happen naturally. At this point its just lots of time investment.
[QUOTE=ItsSecret;6122654]Plan to play with tinder a bit too.[/QUOTE]Good luck with Tinder. In my experience, most are Asians (at least their pics are) running some type of scam, chicks trying to get traffic to their Instagram, or chicks trying to get traffic to their OF.
[QUOTE=YoungPapi;6122731]Surprisingly FB and IG are lowkey good. You can definitely find something if you friend / follow the right people and youll end up getting suggestions on who to add, can even find escorts posting about their regular lives. Right now I got this chick from facebook that I meet once a week, give her some money from 40 to 60 and I got myself a FS for cheap for as long as I want with a decent looking girl. You obviously got to do your research on anyone you meet off FB / IG just in case it brings trouble. Also like someone said grocery stores or dollar stores are a good spot too especially if you go more than once a week you can get lucky. As long as you are average looking or arent weird you can definitely find someone who either needs money or just needs a one nighter but you definitely won't find girls in their 20's most likely early 30's to late 40's are the ones youll find success with and you also can't go in thirsty you got to let it happen naturally. At this point its just lots of time investment.[/QUOTE]That's how I got started, Facebook has this feature where they suggest friends to add to your friends list. Facebook is pretty intrusive, I noticed that after I started to dial STG phone numbers, viola, Facebook would ask me if I wanted to add them as friends. No way on my real Facebook account so I started a fake Facebook account and with zero friends, I started adding the STG providers. Now I will warn you, the providers (for the most part) don't want to be reminded that you know what they do for a living but where the real gold lies is in their own friend list. Most of those girls are fringe players on the scene and will post about their struggles in life. With a little game, all you do is reach out to see if you could pay their phone bill (which they just mentioned) and its game on. Seriously, I got, without a doubt, the best blowjob (deepthroat and swallowed every last drop) from a friend of a STG provider who just lost her job and needed to keep her phone on. I know some of you might be thinking this is a highly exploitive strategy but what are you doing cruising the stroll other than taking advantage of someone's economic struggles?
Full disclosure, it takes time, patience and there is a lot of rejection but in the end, you get a cleaner girl who will tell you that she doesn't want to prostitute herself but just this one time, she needs the money. Ya sure honey, whatever makes you sleep at night, now get working on the end of my cock.
[QUOTE=DonTrask;6123105]That's how I got started, Facebook has this feature where they suggest friends to add to your friends list. Facebook is pretty intrusive, I noticed that after I started to dial STG phone numbers, viola, Facebook would ask me if I wanted to add them as friends. No way on my real Facebook account so I started a fake Facebook account and with zero friends, I started adding the STG providers. Now I will warn you, the providers (for the most part) don't want to be reminded that you know what they do for a living but where the real gold lies is in their own friend list. Most of those girls are fringe players on the scene and will post about their struggles in life. With a little game, all you do is reach out to see if you could pay their phone bill (which they just mentioned) and its game on. Seriously, I got, without a doubt, the best blowjob (deepthroat and swallowed every last drop) from a friend of a STG provider who just lost her job and needed to keep her phone on. I know some of you might be thinking this is a highly exploitive strategy but what are you doing cruising the stroll other than taking advantage of someone's economic struggles?
Full disclosure, it takes time, patience and there is a lot of rejection but in the end, you get a cleaner girl who will tell you that she doesn't want to prostitute herself but just this one time, she needs the money. Ya sure honey, whatever makes you sleep at night, now get working on the end of my cock.[/QUOTE]Lmao 100% true but I do not offer to pay phone bill I'm a straight forward person I ask if they're busy will like to hook up with them for fun they can pay their phone bill with the money they just earned. Yes you can find providers on Facebook and look threw the friends list if it's not hidden some chicks hide their friends list when contacting a chick just make an offer do not be too low or too high with the offer. There's chicks working on Facebook some will have self-employed and single on their page try those chicks browse through the page you'll know if the chick willing to work for cash do not give a deposit cash only. Make an account for hunting do not use a real Facebook or Instagram page some of these chicks will try to expose guys for likes and views.
[QUOTE=ItsSecret;6122654]Just following up on the general topic. The problem is right now, you essentially have a missing tier of girls at the right price.
Tier 1 - SW. Typically going to be under 50-60, high risk and not for me.
Ties 2 - Basic escort ranging from 60 to 120 for SS. The problem right now is that these are essentially tier 1 girls in many cases, just at 2-4 x the price, plus now you have to depend on them to answer and schedule and not nod out before sending the room number. Content selling did a number on this tier, driving girls prices up, or out of the game.
Tier 3 - AMP for 160-200 range. We do have some FS places over here, but it's not amazing like Philly. I don't really care to cross the bridge though and it sounds like there's layers of like screenings and stuff now for the really good places. I also increasingly have safety concerns being in Philly at all. The bigger issue is that in the past I have rarely clicked with an Asian provider. The language and cultural gulfs are just so great. For me it approximates what sex with an android might be like. I need to visit a decent one to reevaluate.
Tier 4 - RMP, and the only one I know is RC in Woodbury. Damage 2. 60 but fantastic experience for me today. Might be my sweet spot..[/QUOTE]About tryst. I found girls on tryst that were also advertising on STG / Escort Alligator. One girl I'm cool with her donation is 120 for ss as I found her on Escort Alligator but on Tryst she's asking 250-300 for the same time. She also has old pictures of herself online were in real life she gained a lot of weight.
Also on Tryst be careful of transsexuals posting in the female section. Even when you do a search for female only on Tryst a few profiles are still transsexuals. Last time I was on Tryst the profile looked like a young 20 ish white female but turns out after reading the ad the person was trans. Looked exactly like a female. Exactly.
[QUOTE=HunterJay;6123342]Lmao 100% true but I do not offer to pay phone bill I'm a straight forward person I ask if they're busy will like to hook up with them for fun they can pay their phone bill with the money they just earned. Yes you can find providers on Facebook and look threw the friends list if it's not hidden some chicks hide their friends list when contacting a chick just make an offer do not be too low or too high with the offer. There's chicks working on Facebook some will have self-employed and single on their page try those chicks browse through the page you'll know if the chick willing to work for cash do not give a deposit cash only. Make an account for hunting do not use a real Facebook or Instagram page some of these chicks will try to expose guys for likes and views.[/QUOTE]Its funny because I actually didn't even start with facebook. I started with dating sites like meetme and POF way before I tried STG and BP (back when it was alive) with enough patience and the right conversations, especially ones who mention they are struggling or something, would net you a clean girl for a much cheaper / decent price. Mind you these are regular girls not Escorts. I was surprised that I got that method to work as well on FB / IG I don't even have any pics of myself on the fake FB page I got which is stupid that they would even add me back and reply back to my DMs.
Obviously tho you can't expect top notch performance unless the girl is naturally good or is older and experienced but for the price compared to STG and such sites its a no brainer to invest your time into hunting on FB / IG. But as you mentioned being straight forward ends up working 50/50. You might get banned eventually unless you're careful and stay lowkey between hunts. Also another thing to note is don't add 50 girls a day keep your add count low if you make a new FB after some months you can increase the amount of people you add, add too many and youll get your page deleted.
[QUOTE=Lance547;6123546]About tryst. I found girls on tryst that were also advertising on STG / Escort Alligator. One girl I'm cool with her donation is 120 for ss as I found her on Escort Alligator but on Tryst she's asking 250-300 for the same time. She also has old pictures of herself online were in real life she gained a lot of weight.
Also on Tryst be careful of transsexuals posting in the female section. Even when you do a search for female only on Tryst a few profiles are still transsexuals. Last time I was on Tryst the profile looked like a young 20 ish white female but turns out after reading the ad the person was trans. Looked exactly like a female. Exactly.[/QUOTE]Never feel weird asking a girl if she is really a girl. Sometimes a girl looks good but something seems a little off. So I ask the question. I have gotten a shocked reaction but they laughed about it later when I saw them. They always were a woman. One time I did set something up with a very tall girl. Did a search of her number and found her real name. Searched her on facebook and like most of these girls she had no idea, or didn't care, about privacy settings. Saw one guy posting how great her BJ was but that he didn't know WTF was up with that thing she called her pussy. The more I looked at her pics the more I thought maybe post op tranny so I never confirmed the appointment. Not my thing.
I would never do 120 for a SS unless the girl is really really hot. But yeah you can have a girl post on stg and on tryst and the difference in price is crazy. Of course they say the tryst price and I offer them their stg price and they take it. Even if a girl only posts on tryst I will only offer her stg rates if she looks like an stg girl. They usually take it. If not I walk. I don't pay a premium just because of the site she posts on.
[QUOTE=WhiteTesla5;6111075]Anyone seen hope, looks nice, rates seem reasonable but when I see some dude I wonder if they are their bf / handler.
[URL]https://central-jersey.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/caucasian_w/let-me-blow-more-than-your-min/385481986123[/URL][/QUOTE]Managed to link up with this one after a week of text tag. I can give you the green light. No signs of demons, in an apartment within my green zone on the map.
80 for the blow and go, and she worked for it. Very accommodating. I didn't love the technique, but I think we can get there.
The pics are a little outdated, but I think we just have to work under that assumption in general on STG. She put on a little weight. Great tits.
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[QUOTE=YoungPapi;6124847]Its funny because I actually didn't even start with facebook. I started with dating sites like meetme and POF way before I tried STG and BP (back when it was alive) with enough patience and the right conversations, especially ones who mention they are struggling or something, would net you a clean girl for a much cheaper / decent price. Mind you these are regular girls not Escorts. I was surprised that I got that method to work as well on FB / IG I don't even have any pics of myself on the fake FB page I got which is stupid that they would even add me back and reply back to my DMs.
Obviously tho you can't expect top notch performance unless the girl is naturally good or is older and experienced but for the price compared to STG and such sites its a no brainer to invest your time into hunting on FB / IG. But as you mentioned being straight forward ends up working 50/50. You might get banned eventually unless you're careful and stay lowkey between hunts. Also another thing to note is don't add 50 girls a day keep your add count low if you make a new FB after some months you can increase the amount of people you add, add too many and youll get your page deleted.[/QUOTE]I've contacted chicks with my real page multiple times never got banned I decided to make a page for hunting because I've seen chicks post their Facebook messenger info sharing it publicly for likes I only add a chick after a session I set up an appointment with a chick in Pemberton NJ but didn't go through with it I'll contact her in two weeks from now she didn't block me. I haven't tried IG yet to me Facebook is easier the chicks post all their business on Facebook helps me get a good sense of their character.